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Darwen heritage centre plan moves step forward

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PLANS to turn a former town centre bank into a heritage centre are gathering pace.

Darwen Town Council is to seek permission from the Government to borrow money to buy the old HSBC bank in The Circus.

As a parish council, Coun Brian Taylor, who has been leading the controversial project, said they must have the Government’s permission to take out a long-term mortgage.

Coun Taylor told colleagues he had agreed a ‘bargain’ deal for the prominent building but had been advised by the estate agents that another party had expressed interest in buying it.

He said: “I am getting a bit twitchy because the estate agents tell me there are other parties interested. I want us to move on this and purchase the building.

“At the end of the day, if all else fails, we would have a building of our own that we could sell if it doesn’t come off and I am sure we would recoup our money.”

Liberal Democrat councillor Roy Davies argued: “We don’t need this building. Darwen is a heritage centre as it is.”

Coun Taylor also responded to comments from the Friends of Darwen Library, who wrote to the council detailing an alternative suggestion to transform the reference library and non-fiction area of the building into a museum.

Group secretary Harold Heys wrote: “We are unanimous that the idea of a separate Darwen heritage centre or museum would be a very expensive non-starter.

“The library has long been one of the finest buildings in the town centre and that is where we should be looking for a heritage display area.”

Coun Taylor said: “I have got to say I am dismayed and disappointed with the disparaging tone of the letter.

“I am very grateful for the efforts and work of the Friends of Darwen Library but what they are proposing is a very poor second choice and it is not in the same league as what I want to achieve.”

A motion to seek permission to borrow the cash needed was passed after all Labour members voted in favour of it on Tuesday night, while the opposition Liberal Democrats were against the idea.

The money for a deposit on the building, listed for sale at £150,000, would come from existing council reserves.

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2:52pm Thu 9 Jan 14

darwenTower says...

**QUOTE**
He said: “I am getting a bit twitchy because the estate agents tell me there are other parties interested. I want us to move on this and purchase the building.
**END QUOTE**

Well if that's what the estate agent is saying, you'd better get a sweat on, I mean, why would they lie?
**QUOTE** He said: “I am getting a bit twitchy because the estate agents tell me there are other parties interested. I want us to move on this and purchase the building. **END QUOTE** Well if that's what the estate agent is saying, you'd better get a sweat on, I mean, why would they lie? darwenTower
  • Score: 8

5:21pm Thu 9 Jan 14

phil kernot says...

Heritage centre right across from that building that is in the heritage zone , that's got ugly PVC windows that heritage has faliled to enforce , why buy the building as it has to be paid back(typical councillor no brain or business sence)
if this was a business it would go bust , why not lease it and save tax payers money
, parkings bad there and . Make sure you do a proper survey as your be asking for a grant as well as it's falling to bits , got a flat roof as big as a football pitch ,, how do I know because I've looked at the building and wouldn't touch it with a barge pole ,,
Heritage centre right across from that building that is in the heritage zone , that's got ugly PVC windows that heritage has faliled to enforce , why buy the building as it has to be paid back(typical councillor no brain or business sence) if this was a business it would go bust , why not lease it and save tax payers money , parkings bad there and . Make sure you do a proper survey as your be asking for a grant as well as it's falling to bits , got a flat roof as big as a football pitch ,, how do I know because I've looked at the building and wouldn't touch it with a barge pole ,, phil kernot
  • Score: 0

5:32pm Thu 9 Jan 14

phil kernot says...

phil kernot wrote:
Heritage centre right across from that building that is in the heritage zone , that's got ugly PVC windows that heritage has faliled to enforce , why buy the building as it has to be paid back(typical councillor no brain or business sence)
if this was a business it would go bust , why not lease it and save tax payers money
, parkings bad there and . Make sure you do a proper survey as your be asking for a grant as well as it's falling to bits , got a flat roof as big as a football pitch ,, how do I know because I've looked at the building and wouldn't touch it with a barge pole ,,
Please let us know what your survey says on structural integrity of the building (bet it comes back it needs £150,000 spending on it )

The old George pub across the road is 3 storey and a heritage building and less than £100k to buy , not made out of concrete sandfaced stone , just want taxpayers to get value for money as sick of seeing clowns waste our money who haven't got a clue about property ...
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Heritage centre right across from that building that is in the heritage zone , that's got ugly PVC windows that heritage has faliled to enforce , why buy the building as it has to be paid back(typical councillor no brain or business sence) if this was a business it would go bust , why not lease it and save tax payers money , parkings bad there and . Make sure you do a proper survey as your be asking for a grant as well as it's falling to bits , got a flat roof as big as a football pitch ,, how do I know because I've looked at the building and wouldn't touch it with a barge pole ,,[/p][/quote]Please let us know what your survey says on structural integrity of the building (bet it comes back it needs £150,000 spending on it ) The old George pub across the road is 3 storey and a heritage building and less than £100k to buy , not made out of concrete sandfaced stone , just want taxpayers to get value for money as sick of seeing clowns waste our money who haven't got a clue about property ... phil kernot
  • Score: 6

5:49pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Mr Banford says...

I have to agree with the library on this one.
IAs much as i am in favour of keeping local heritage and history for future generations i cant see necessity for a devoted building. Even the potential buyers dont seem to have convinced themselves that this would be a viable business. "At the end of the day, if all else fails, we would have a building of our own that we could sell if it doesn’t come off and I am sure we would recoup our money.”
As all libraries are in decline due to the internet and e-books, i would think think this is an ideal way to help revive darwen library and bring it back into the limelight as a place of local importance before it is lost for good.
I have to agree with the library on this one. IAs much as i am in favour of keeping local heritage and history for future generations i cant see necessity for a devoted building. Even the potential buyers dont seem to have convinced themselves that this would be a viable business. "At the end of the day, if all else fails, we would have a building of our own that we could sell if it doesn’t come off and I am sure we would recoup our money.” As all libraries are in decline due to the internet and e-books, i would think think this is an ideal way to help revive darwen library and bring it back into the limelight as a place of local importance before it is lost for good. Mr Banford
  • Score: 8

6:51pm Thu 9 Jan 14

DarkhorseG says...

what a complete waste of money. Borrow the money and spend it on cleaning up this town.
what a complete waste of money. Borrow the money and spend it on cleaning up this town. DarkhorseG
  • Score: 4

7:34pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Meerkat.com says...

The old george pub has 4 floors including the cellar and got bought about 4 months ago, theres already a new taxi rank in it and other work is about to start, so thats that out the window phil kernot !!
The old george pub has 4 floors including the cellar and got bought about 4 months ago, theres already a new taxi rank in it and other work is about to start, so thats that out the window phil kernot !! Meerkat.com
  • Score: 4

7:40pm Thu 9 Jan 14

HelpingDarwen says...

Insanity!
At the same time as wanting a mortgage to buy an old disused building that needs a fortune spending on it, the Council is selling the modern Access Centre building, for cost cutting reasons.
Heritage Centre in the library as per Mr Heys would be perfectly logical.
Insanity! At the same time as wanting a mortgage to buy an old disused building that needs a fortune spending on it, the Council is selling the modern Access Centre building, for cost cutting reasons. Heritage Centre in the library as per Mr Heys would be perfectly logical. HelpingDarwen
  • Score: 9

8:48pm Thu 9 Jan 14

phil kernot says...

Meerkat.com wrote:
The old george pub has 4 floors including the cellar and got bought about 4 months ago, theres already a new taxi rank in it and other work is about to start, so thats that out the window phil kernot !!
Lol maybe I got that wrong about the George pub but it was up for sale for a while , would have made a good heritage. Centre , but libary sounds better as council owns that :)
[quote][p][bold]Meerkat.com[/bold] wrote: The old george pub has 4 floors including the cellar and got bought about 4 months ago, theres already a new taxi rank in it and other work is about to start, so thats that out the window phil kernot !![/p][/quote]Lol maybe I got that wrong about the George pub but it was up for sale for a while , would have made a good heritage. Centre , but libary sounds better as council owns that :) phil kernot
  • Score: 4

9:12pm Thu 9 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

If there are other interested parties, then I'm inclined to let them have it -at least the building will be brought back into use. Library gets my vote in these financially-tight times.
If there are other interested parties, then I'm inclined to let them have it -at least the building will be brought back into use. Library gets my vote in these financially-tight times. happycyclist
  • Score: 3

4:54pm Sat 11 Jan 14

louderfasterlonger says...

Hmm. Bespoke building with Herritage lottery funding or a pokey corner of the library... now.. let me ponder !
Hmm. Bespoke building with Herritage lottery funding or a pokey corner of the library... now.. let me ponder ! louderfasterlonger
  • Score: -2

7:38pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Dan Clough says...

HelpingDarwen wrote:
Insanity!
At the same time as wanting a mortgage to buy an old disused building that needs a fortune spending on it, the Council is selling the modern Access Centre building, for cost cutting reasons.
Heritage Centre in the library as per Mr Heys would be perfectly logical.
Hi HD - The Access Point is being sold by Blackburn with Darwen Council, this story is about Darwen Town Council. The two are separate and have their own budgets and responsibilities.
[quote][p][bold]HelpingDarwen[/bold] wrote: Insanity! At the same time as wanting a mortgage to buy an old disused building that needs a fortune spending on it, the Council is selling the modern Access Centre building, for cost cutting reasons. Heritage Centre in the library as per Mr Heys would be perfectly logical.[/p][/quote]Hi HD - The Access Point is being sold by Blackburn with Darwen Council, this story is about Darwen Town Council. The two are separate and have their own budgets and responsibilities. Dan Clough
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Sun 12 Jan 14

HelpingDarwen says...

Thanks for the clarification Dan. But it's still insanity, and suggests that the lunatics that have taken over both asylums aren't talking to each other!
Thanks for the clarification Dan. But it's still insanity, and suggests that the lunatics that have taken over both asylums aren't talking to each other! HelpingDarwen
  • Score: 0

3:02pm Mon 13 Jan 14

pm1960 says...

HelpingDarwen wrote:
Insanity! At the same time as wanting a mortgage to buy an old disused building that needs a fortune spending on it, the Council is selling the modern Access Centre building, for cost cutting reasons. Heritage Centre in the library as per Mr Heys would be perfectly logical.
Wrong I'm afraid. The Access Point isn't owned by Darwen Town Council. It is owned by the Borough Council. The Borough Council is not wanting a mortgage. It is Darwen Town Council that is trying to obtain a loan.
*
The Library service has already made 2 bids to the Heritage Lottery for a museum / heritage centre in the Library but, unfortunately, both failed. What Mr Heys is proposing isn't a Heritage Centre - but to make a bit of
space in the Library to display a some items currently in the Museum at Blackburn. This would not cost anything, but isn't an alternative to a Heritage Centre (similar to the ones in St Annes and Barrowford). Good luck to Mr Heys in his venture - no-one is opposing him.
[quote][p][bold]HelpingDarwen[/bold] wrote: Insanity! At the same time as wanting a mortgage to buy an old disused building that needs a fortune spending on it, the Council is selling the modern Access Centre building, for cost cutting reasons. Heritage Centre in the library as per Mr Heys would be perfectly logical.[/p][/quote]Wrong I'm afraid. The Access Point isn't owned by Darwen Town Council. It is owned by the Borough Council. The Borough Council is not wanting a mortgage. It is Darwen Town Council that is trying to obtain a loan. * The Library service has already made 2 bids to the Heritage Lottery for a museum / heritage centre in the Library but, unfortunately, both failed. What Mr Heys is proposing isn't a Heritage Centre - but to make a bit of space in the Library to display a some items currently in the Museum at Blackburn. This would not cost anything, but isn't an alternative to a Heritage Centre (similar to the ones in St Annes and Barrowford). Good luck to Mr Heys in his venture - no-one is opposing him. pm1960
  • Score: 0

6:18pm Mon 13 Jan 14

HelpingDarwen says...

pm1960
But can't you see the madness that the "Council" (public bodies supposedly there to serve the people of Darwen) are selling a modern building designed to help create employment, at the same time borrowing to buy an old building that needs money spending on it, to celebrate history? Priorities are all wrong, and it doesn't matter which council.
pm1960 But can't you see the madness that the "Council" (public bodies supposedly there to serve the people of Darwen) are selling a modern building designed to help create employment, at the same time borrowing to buy an old building that needs money spending on it, to celebrate history? Priorities are all wrong, and it doesn't matter which council. HelpingDarwen
  • Score: 0

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