Town leaders hit out as Blackburn Rovers drop Thwaites for Heineken at Ewood (From Lancashire Telegraph)

i bet the price does not go down for the fans

Another good reason not to go

garydavies2304 wrote:
i bet the price does not go down for the fans

All prices were EXACTLY the same on Tuesday!! Ridiculous

"The choice, quality, speed of service and price of the beer on offer is often an important part of that"

Same products, Same staff, Same price!!!!

Thwaites submitted a bid, and it wasn't good enough. I don't see the problem here. That's how business works.

Do Thwaites brew a lager? I don't mean Warsteiner or such... but their own actual branded 'Thwaites Lager'?

I'd maybe be supportive of summat like that if it was, if it were brewed and introduced.

There's nothing wrong with Heineken though, it's good enough for James Bond, Rovers however are utter bab.

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A none story this is the business world. Get over it.

Maybe thwaites decided that venkys were bad news so they put a bad bid in.

Catalogue of quotes lets start with the best

“Thwaites’ beer is infinitely better than that provided by Heineken.

That's kept me laughing all morning.
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2 for 5p wrote:
Catalogue of quotes lets start with the best

“Thwaites’ beer is infinitely better than that provided by Heineken.

That's kept me laughing all morning.
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HA HA HA !

bigste wrote:
Maybe thwaites decided that venkys were bad news so they put a bad bid in.

maybe thwaites thought rovers were a soft touch so they put in a expensive bid in.

BANG.

"Hey what was that bang I just heard."

It sounded like thwaites shooting themselves in the foot. :-)

Taken from LET pages.
Blackburn with Darwen Council leader Coun Kate Hollern said the club should not be taking business out of the town.

BLACKBURN with Darwen council is to cut 500 jobs, scrap school uniform grants, phase out its four old people’s homes, and close children’s centres.


If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.

It's beer at a football ground.

Does it really matter where it comes from?

Get some perspective.

karltop wrote:
Thwaites submitted a bid, and it wasn't good enough. I don't see the problem here. That's how business works.

Totally agree with this.

Thwaites only have themselves to blame, They would have submitted the Tender which would of had an overall package which wasnt good enough.

This happens day in day out at businesses all over the world get over it.

Do thwaites support local firms when they deliver german lager in german made kegs on the back of german made lorries.....Its that prat jack straw thats out o touch as venkys are after the best deal jus like any company would. And heineken is a fine lager as is deuchars ipa and they are getting fosters direct and not payin a middle man in thwaites......

This is better PR...?

Telegraph are regurgitating old news here. This was announced by Rovers on their website more than a week ago.

So far as I can see the only difference to people on the concourse will be John Smiths smooth instead of Thwaites smooth. Both of which are awful beers anyway. Lager drinkers will see no difference and if you go in Blues bar you get a choice of cask ales!

Its a little bit hypocritical of Thwaites to expect support from BRFC because they are a local firm when they are allowing dozens of their pubs in Lancashire to close and never re-open due to covenants they put in place. Perhaps if they cared a little bit more about 'local businesses' then the pub trade in Blackburn wouldnt be in the state it is today.

Maybe Thwaites became complacent after years of supplying. who knows but looks like a better business offer was put on the table by a new brewery. I cant see a problem. Business is Business. I do feel however that maybe smaller Micro Breweries could have got a look in, maybe having their Real Ale used as a guest Beer in the Club. Heineken probably wouldnt be keen as they would want to supply their own, just like Thwaites did, but Heineken would still get the majority of the trade and yet the Club would now support and promote EVEN MORE localised businesses. Maybe even Thwaites could have still supplied their cask ales as well, as a guest beer. Whether they would still want to is another matter but..............
Would that not have been better PR.
Just a thought!

"heineken is a fine lager as is deuchars ipa " errm, 'scuse me, but since when has Deuchar's IPA been a lager? I'd have thought that it would have been far better PR for them to promote a local product - Hopstar from Darwen for instance.

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I think a lot of people wouldn’t mind paying that little bit more if it meant supporting a local business.”

Get real ,free market economy in a ressesion most people will be glad to pay a bit less.
As for supporting a local business unless you work directly for thwaites it won't make one bit of difference to your life whatsoever.

He said: “Our aim is always to improve the fans’ enjoyment of coming to Ewood.

“The choice, quality, speed of service and price of the beer on offer is often an important part of that.
is that why they sold the club to the chicken tossers .The jibbs fans really make me laugh what you moan about hahahahaha

fekkin heathens...!

why replace good English ale with watery forein lagers. Obviously the same people who replaced a good English manager with inferior replacements. What next, how about cheap inferior floodlights!

It's a business fekkin get over it. No matter what venkys do **** will never give them a chance. VENKYS OWN BRFC FACT. They can so what they want with THIER CLUB. Jack Straw P155 OFF. You should be ashamed at sacking 500 people from the council. Your our MP. Shame on you and Kate.

Venkys are trying to make a profit so are millions of people around the world.

LT being a bit hypocritical? Why does it not buy local? Why is design done in India rather Blackburn or E Lancs?

As usual, Dan Clough gets it completely wrong and makes a mountain out of a molehill>

FACT: Thwaites used to have the supply agreement to Ewood Park and as part of that agreement, they sold Rovers Lagers and Ciders owned by Heineken . In effect, the only Thwaites product sold at the ground was bitter which would have accounted for around 20% of total sales.
Thwaites were invited to tender to retain the supply agreement but would not meet Rovers requirements for pouring rights so Rovers offered the total supply to Heineken Group.
The only changes are that Thwaites keg and cask beers change to John Smiths and Theakstons. None of these beers are produced in the Netherlands, the profit, if there were any, after the pouring rights fee would be retained in the UK and thats where any taxes would be paid.
For Jack Straw to declare that Thwaites Beers are infinitely better than Heineken's is a disgrace: at best, ill founded, at worst libellous and yet another pathetc attempt to ingratiate himself with people he cares nothing about.
As for CLOUGH, get back to writing for the school magazine.

Should get " Black Bull Bitter " brewed in tockholes by Three Bees brewery , and support the true local economy. Lovely ale and made less than a mile from the ground !

What is the matter with everyone, you are seeing your club being systematically taken apart asset by asset before your very eyes and people keep giving their money to Venkys who think you are something to be scraped off their shoes.
They, sooner or later are going to take our club down when they have had every last penny out of it and it will be starting from scratch for Rovers, everyone knows it.SO WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL GIVING THEIR CASH TO THEM?

Old Alzheimer wrote:
Taken from LET pages.
Blackburn with Darwen Council leader Coun Kate Hollern said the club should not be taking business out of the town.

BLACKBURN with Darwen council is to cut 500 jobs, scrap school uniform grants, phase out its four old people’s homes, and close children’s centres.


If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.

SPOT ON

peely wrote:
Should get " Black Bull Bitter " brewed in tockholes by Three Bees brewery , and support the true local economy. Lovely ale and made less than a mile from the ground !

indeed ;-)

mark anthony wrote:

Old Alzheimer wrote:
Taken from LET pages.
Blackburn with Darwen Council leader Coun Kate Hollern said the club should not be taking business out of the town.

BLACKBURN with Darwen council is to cut 500 jobs, scrap school uniform grants, phase out its four old people’s homes, and close children’s centres.


If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.

SPOT ON

Spot on!

Thwaites commented, 'We've been ripping landlords, lady's & tenants for years, it's a shame we can't still rip off the towns club... agh well we're off anyway like we give a shat about the town & it's people hahaha"

While I agree with all those who think Rovers should be supporting a local firm, didn't Blackburn Council once give a company from Leicester called En Tout Cas a contract to build the All Weather Pitches at Witton instead of local firm Scapa because their tender was 1p less. Short memories havn't they. Or has it anything to do with backhanders? Well, it's always gone on hasn't it.

maybe the Players should drink Heineken as it ' reaches parts other beers cannot reach ' , they certainly need all the help they can get !

For a moment I thought Jack Straw was talking about the PFI deal at BRI "ridiculous, silly and short-sighted". As for Greg Coar, marketing manager, saying "our aim is always to improve the fans' enjoyment of coming to Ewood", clear off then, along with everyone else that has arrived with the Venkys, and give us back our Club. If anyone at Thwaites is reading this, maybe you might want to sponsor some snow balls.

Knowing Thwaites as I do, they've probably priced themselves out of the market. At the end of the day, they are just too expensive. You only need to visit one of their pubs to realise this.

Why the hell are people complaining about it it's down to the brewery if there not bidding high enough when really they should be doing with the rent they charge for landlords, is it any wonder there's pubs shut down on every street with the shabby setup these days, lower the prices n stop being greedy thwaites, them horses don't cost that much to look after

Whatever bid Thwaites put in, Heneken, as global bully boys would have made sure they put in a lower bid. Clubs like Rovers have no loyalty to their town. They are just commercial enterprises to further the interests of their owners.

By the Way Brighton make a point of always offering local cask beers at their new stadium. Great for both home and away fans.

Whatever bid Thwaites put in, Heneken, as global bully boys would have made sure they put in a lower bid. Clubs like Rovers have no loyalty to their town. They are just commercial enterprises to further the interests of their owners.

By the Way Brighton make a point of always offering local cask beers at their new stadium. Great for both home and away fans.

peely wrote:
Should get " Black Bull Bitter " brewed in tockholes by Three Bees brewery , and support the true local economy. Lovely ale and made less than a mile from the ground !

Yeah good point.
Thwaites make overpriced and overated brews.
Their brewery is in Blackburn and they employ a few "local" people, probably because wages are low in this area.
I wonder how many "local" firms actualy profit from Thwaites being here? They will buy their ingredients and services from the cheapest source, like most big firms.
They dont seem too bothered about the struggling pub trade (the beer prices are astounding!). If they realy cared about the area they would make going to the pub affordable and not a luxury. Every time a pub shuts jobs are lost.
I wonder how many workers at Thwaites can actualy afford to go the pub at night?

doomchanter wrote:

peely wrote:
Should get " Black Bull Bitter " brewed in tockholes by Three Bees brewery , and support the true local economy. Lovely ale and made less than a mile from the ground !

Yeah good point.
Thwaites make overpriced and overated brews.
Their brewery is in Blackburn and they employ a few "local" people, probably because wages are low in this area.
I wonder how many "local" firms actualy profit from Thwaites being here? They will buy their ingredients and services from the cheapest source, like most big firms.
They dont seem too bothered about the struggling pub trade (the beer prices are astounding!). If they realy cared about the area they would make going to the pub affordable and not a luxury. Every time a pub shuts jobs are lost.
I wonder how many workers at Thwaites can actualy afford to go the pub at night?

You really do not know what you are talking about.

Baudelaire wrote:
Whatever bid Thwaites put in, Heneken, as global bully boys would have made sure they put in a lower bid. Clubs like Rovers have no loyalty to their town. They are just commercial enterprises to further the interests of their owners. By the Way Brighton make a point of always offering local cask beers at their new stadium. Great for both home and away fans.

All the beers at Brighton are supplied by Heineken ( including their casks )

Another nail in the Ewood coffin!!
I'm surprised its not Tiger or Cobra on offer .

2 for 5p wrote:
Catalogue of quotes lets start with the best

“Thwaites’ beer is infinitely better than that provided by Heineken.

That's kept me laughing all morning.
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2 FOR 5p is all that Heinekens worth.
Thwaites brew some fantastic ales. Your obviously a tart and not a real ale drinker.
Award winning brewers on many occasions.

PakistaniMunda wrote:
It's a business fekkin get over it. No matter what venkys do **** will never give them a chance. VENKYS OWN BRFC FACT. They can so what they want with THIER CLUB. Jack Straw P155 OFF. You should be ashamed at sacking 500 people from the council. Your our MP. Shame on you and Kate.

You'll know all about underground economy I guess??

Why an Indian owned BRFC FC support Blackburn firm Thwaites when Thwaites did not sponser Blackburn Rover's SHIRTS.
The Venkys should sell COBRA BEER at Ewood Park an Indian OWNED COMPANY MR BILLIMORIA
HOLLAND'S PIES PART OF NORTHERN FOODS LTD OWNED BY INDIAN BILLIONAIRE NOW RANJIT BOPARAN.
I hope Asian owned business like Euro Garages ,Bestway Cash & Carry ltd,Accrol Papers,Star Tissues,New Look,Poundstrechers,
B&M Stores in BLackburn sponsers BRFC.
The dingles of Blackburn and BRAG ARE NOT WORTH TWO BOBS.YOU SEE THE MORONS WHO THREW SNOW BALLS AT VENKYS IF THE VENKYS WALK AWAY NOW AND LEFT YOU WITH BRAG AND THEN ADMINISTRATION WILL FOLLOW.ROVERS WILL THEN BE IN SAME LEAGUE AS LEEDS,POURTSMOUTH AND RANGERS.
Blackburn a proud club ,what proud club ? It was Jack Walkers money got BRFC in Premier League and won the league in 1995 with Jack's million.
the Walker boys sold BRFC to Venkys and left with all the cash and fled to Jersey.If the morons don't like the BRFC please stay away you lot will not be missed.
Now lets place an Indian Flag on Ewood Park and a statue of Mahatma Gandhi next to Jack Walker statue.

Overpriced tasteless mass produced crap, wouldn't touch it with a bargepole if I was lost in a desert dying of thirst.

Why do reporters always ask the usual suspects stupid questions?

A politician or two, come on please tell me Jack Straw drinks the odious "Smooth"? All you are ever going to get from him is the politically correct "How many votes am I going to get with the best possible answer, for me".

What "Community Leaders?" Mustafa Job and his mates? Didn't think they were supposed to drink alcohol anyway.

And then they ask some clown from BRAG or BRSIT for an opinion? Well I don't have to be a bloody rocket scientist to guess what sort of answer they would give, bet I couldn't get decent odds.

Why don't they actually ask real people who might give an honest opinion for once, instead of deciding what the response they want is then asking the people who will give them the sound-bytes they are looking for.

Hypocrites.

Cobra beer is owned by an American company, Molson Coors, after your beloved countryman, LORD Bilamoura, dragged the company into receivership with a train of debts and creditors that make Colin Hendry look like Robin Hood. Goodnight Slumdog.

modan wrote:
Why an Indian owned BRFC FC support Blackburn firm Thwaites when Thwaites did not sponser Blackburn Rover's SHIRTS.
The Venkys should sell COBRA BEER at Ewood Park an Indian OWNED COMPANY MR BILLIMORIA
HOLLAND'S PIES PART OF NORTHERN FOODS LTD OWNED BY INDIAN BILLIONAIRE NOW RANJIT BOPARAN.
I hope Asian owned business like Euro Garages ,Bestway Cash & Carry ltd,Accrol Papers,Star Tissues,New Look,Poundstrechers,

B&M Stores in BLackburn sponsers BRFC.
The dingles of Blackburn and BRAG ARE NOT WORTH TWO BOBS.YOU SEE THE MORONS WHO THREW SNOW BALLS AT VENKYS IF THE VENKYS WALK AWAY NOW AND LEFT YOU WITH BRAG AND THEN ADMINISTRATION WILL FOLLOW.ROVERS WILL THEN BE IN SAME LEAGUE AS LEEDS,POURTSMOUTH AND RANGERS.
Blackburn a proud club ,what proud club ? It was Jack Walkers money got BRFC in Premier League and won the league in 1995 with Jack's million.
the Walker boys sold BRFC to Venkys and left with all the cash and fled to Jersey.If the morons don't like the BRFC please stay away you lot will not be missed.
Now lets place an Indian Flag on Ewood Park and a statue of Mahatma Gandhi next to Jack Walker statue.

Did Mahatma Ghandi drink Cobra? Is that why he always wore a nappy?