Darwen gates bid stalled for 'clean alleys'

PROPOSALS to install a new set of lockable gates in Darwen to combat anti-social behaviour and fly-tipping have been shelved after a councillor said the alleys involved were 'too clean'.

Sudell’s Paul Browne questioned the need to seal off the back pathways behind Woodville Terrace, Portland Street, Maria Street, and Alfred Street after members of Blackburn with Darwen Council’s planning committee visited the site.

The scheme has been strongly championed by his Liberal Democrat colleagues David and Karimeh Foster as a means of keeping this part of their Whitehall ward clean and tidy and free from rubbish.

Coun Browne told the planning committee meeting considering the plan, previously authorised by the council’s executive board: “When we visited the site, I could not believe it. The alleys were too clean. I couldn’t even see a crisp packet.”

Committee chairman Jim Smith said the area was tidy, adding: “But I did see a crisp packet.”

Marsh House Labour councillor Tom Evans and Tory planning spokesman Alan Cottam also questioned the need for the costly scheme, especially in view of an objection from a resident who parked his car off one the alleys and possible changes to the borough’s rules for installing the gates.

Coun Evans said that new criteria for installing alleygates to deal with fly-tipping and anti-social behaviour were being brought in the New Year and the proposed scheme might be ruled out under them.

He proposed deferring the planning permission until they were introduced in the New Year so the plan could be judged again in the light of the new guidance.

Coun Cottam supported the proposal saying: “This application should be deferred. Spending £200,000 on alley gates if the guidance is going to be changed cannot be justified.”

The committee deferred a decision the application so the executive board could look again at it when the new rules were introduced.

Whitehall councillor David Foster said the reasons for installing alley gates were nothing to do with the planning committee.

He said: “The planning committee is there purely to decide whether the gates comply with planning regulations.

“I am appalled at the decision. The reason we wanted them was nothing to do with cleanliness. It was about preventing crime.”

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3:46pm Mon 24 Dec 12

english rose 1 says...

Not much Christmas cheer between the Darwen Lib-Dems !! With friends like that who needs enemies !
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However, the planning committee is right, - there are much worse back streets in other parts of Darwen - and areas with a higher crime rate.
Not much Christmas cheer between the Darwen Lib-Dems !! With friends like that who needs enemies ! * However, the planning committee is right, - there are much worse back streets in other parts of Darwen - and areas with a higher crime rate. english rose 1

5:14pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Elsie C says...

How can they cost £200.000 anyway?
How can they cost £200.000 anyway? Elsie C

5:14pm Mon 24 Dec 12

useyourhead says...

Does the thought not occur that the residents might actually have some pride and do keep it clear, that's why they have requested gates?
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They must be sick to the back teeth of not only cleaning theirs but everyone elses too, I know we are!
Does the thought not occur that the residents might actually have some pride and do keep it clear, that's why they have requested gates? - They must be sick to the back teeth of not only cleaning theirs but everyone elses too, I know we are! useyourhead

6:12pm Mon 24 Dec 12

2 for 5p says...

Hey I've got a idea :

You want the gates you pay for them.
Hey I've got a idea : You want the gates you pay for them. 2 for 5p

9:59am Tue 25 Dec 12

phil@steak says...

Mr Brown, you obviously came round to look when the backs had just been cleaned. The alleyways are usually a disgrace. Only this week I have had my garden Christmas lights vandalised and also my fence panels painted on and pulled out. You obviously dont live round here at see the daily mess!!!!!
Mr Brown, you obviously came round to look when the backs had just been cleaned. The alleyways are usually a disgrace. Only this week I have had my garden Christmas lights vandalised and also my fence panels painted on and pulled out. You obviously dont live round here at see the daily mess!!!!! phil@steak

2:23am Wed 26 Dec 12

english rose 1 says...

Not saying you are wrong phil@steak but these back streets are not as worse as say Snape St / Gillibrand St / Blackburn Rd / Preston St / Cavendish St. Or Highfield St / Edmund St for example.
Not saying you are wrong phil@steak but these back streets are not as worse as say Snape St / Gillibrand St / Blackburn Rd / Preston St / Cavendish St. Or Highfield St / Edmund St for example. english rose 1

10:56am Wed 26 Dec 12

happycyclist says...

Would it not be cheaper to nail the scummy vandals and anti-socials?
Would it not be cheaper to nail the scummy vandals and anti-socials? happycyclist

1:48pm Wed 26 Dec 12

english rose 1 says...

Elsie C wrote:
How can they cost £200.000 anyway?
That's an error - the whole budget for the year is £100,000 ! Maybe it was 20k ??
[quote][p][bold]Elsie C[/bold] wrote: How can they cost £200.000 anyway?[/p][/quote]That's an error - the whole budget for the year is £100,000 ! Maybe it was 20k ?? english rose 1

3:34am Thu 27 Dec 12

N4you! says...

Elsie C wrote:
How can they cost £200.000 anyway?
robbing b******s
[quote][p][bold]Elsie C[/bold] wrote: How can they cost £200.000 anyway?[/p][/quote]robbing b******s N4you!

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