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'Sir' will become 'Miss' at Accrington school (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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'Sir' will become 'Miss' at Accrington school
11:30am Wednesday 19th December 2012 in News
By Lisa Woodhouse, Assistant picture editor
St Mary Magdalen's C of E School in Accrington
A PRIMARY school teacher will be asking children to call him ‘Miss’ instead of ‘Sir’ after the Christmas break.
Parents have been told that Nathan Upton, a Year Six teacher at St Mary Magdalen’s CofE Primary, Accrington, will return in the new year as Miss Lucy Meadows following a ‘transition’.
Each class has been spoken to about the change by headteacher Karen Hardman who said she was fully in support of Mr Upton’s decision.
Parents said their children had been told by Mr Upton that he had been born with a girl’s brain in a boy’s body.
The newsletter, which was hand delivered to parents, said: “Mr Upton has made a significant change in his life and will be transitioning to live as a woman after the Christmas break. She will return to work as Miss Meadows.”
In a statement Mr Upton, understood to be in his early 30s, said: “This has been a long and difficult journey for me, and it was certainly not an easy decision to make. I am grateful to governors and colleagues at St Mary Magdalen's for their support.
"I'd now ask for my privacy to be respected so that I can continue with my job, which I'm committed to and which I enjoy very much."
Mrs Hardman said staff at the Devonshire Street school and governors were supportive of Mr Upton.
She said: “We value all our teachers for their hard work and commitment to the education of our children.
“Naturally, we understand that an issue such as this is bound to arouse interest for a short while.
“However, this is a personal matter for our staff member, who has our full support, and we are all working together to ensure it has the least impact on the smooth running of the school.”
A spokesperson for Blackburn Diocese said: “We were made aware of the situation as soon as the school was informed by the teacher of his decision.
“Since then we have been in close and constant discussion with the school governors, headteacher and local education authority to advise on how the matter should be handled, particularly from the point of view of the pupils, as well as parents and teachers.”
Parents at the school had mixed reactions to the news.
Father-of-three Wayne Cowie voiced his concerns about the effect on his children and the confusion it will cause.
He said: “I didn’t think I’d need the birds and the bees talk with my sons until they were at high school and now they are coming home asking about transvestites.
“My lad is very confused and upset about it. He should have taken a couple of years off to sort himself out.”
One child, who currently has Mr Upton as his class teacher, said it would be strange calling him a new name next year.
He said: “It will feel very strange calling him Miss Meadows. He told us he was going to become a girl after Christmas. Me and my friends were left confused and people kept asking him lots of questions.”
One 10-year-old girl, who said she may have Miss Meadows from next year, said: “He spoke to us and said he’s going to be changing into a woman and wearing women’s clothes after Christmas. We were all a bit shocked. He said he’s going to totally change his appearance.”
A grandmother, collecting her seven-year-old granddaughter from the school, said: “It has been handled very sensitively by the school and I think it’s a very brave thing for him to do.”
A mum said: “It’s his life, but he can dress as a woman in his own time. It’s just going to confuse the children.”
And another said he should have changed schools.
She said: “I think he should have left St Mary’s and joined another school with his new name for a fresh start.”
Another mum said: “My children are happy. I don’t see anything wrong with it. He’s not the first and he won’t be the last. All I care about is my child’s education.”
Comments are closed on this article.
Comments (61)
11:59am Wed 19 Dec 12
woolywords says...
Much as I'm tempted to write some funny remarks, I have managed to contain myself and hope that others will exercise the same restraint.
When you think about it, it takes enormous courage to go public with this news and especially in front of children. How easily it would have been to sneak off and do this in private but then we would all be in ignorance, unable to confront what is for some, a life-changing act.
Perhaps it is best for an educator to make it known to children and answer all their questions, fully and frankly, so at least a few children grow into adults accepting those who dare to be different.
12:02pm Wed 19 Dec 12
paperboy70 says...
RIP Rovers... have some compassion rather than posting crude comments.
12:17pm Wed 19 Dec 12
frank says...
12:28pm Wed 19 Dec 12
badref says...
If you choose to put your child in a church school it might be worth at some point exploring those Christian ethics of tolerance and inclusion rather than making ill-informed comments that rather suggest a desire to have fifteen minutes of fame than any depth of concern for their children's welfare.
12:39pm Wed 19 Dec 12
stevie007bond says...
My girls attend this school and one has been taught by Nathan Upton and he was a great teacher, just because of the changes he decides to make in his life won't change his teaching abilities. Most of the kids and parents do not have an issue with it and are supportive of Nathan Uptons decision but as with everything in life there is always a minority whom think different.
12:39pm Wed 19 Dec 12
AndyW says...
What chance do the children have when the adults have such ignorant and arrogant views...?
12:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12
davemcb says...
1:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wrinkles says...
1:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12
POW WOW says...
1:27pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Mikeee47 says...
we are all entitled to our comments and opinions, as if the kids aren't confused enough, then make them have to understand this, Unbelieveable, yes I said it, it's wrong,
1:30pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Sir Bill Taylor says...
1:38pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Whydidtheybanme? says...
I am sure I speak for the common sense majority when I say that perhaps this teacher should've moved school or taken a couple of years out. I personally think that kids in Primary school (not sure if this school has infants) are too young to know about the birds and the bees, let alone the bees and the bees at the age of 7.
2:10pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Jeff Wayne says...
Just because some narrow mined people are upset/confused/jealo
us that Miss Meadows has been brave enough to stand up and and try and explain what is happening to the children rather than (as some people would want) run off and hide!
I hope that the children can take on board what is happening without too much stress and confusion (but children being children they will sail through it) and not have the bigoted views that some of the parents seem to have. Im sure Miss Meadows will want to have her privacy and not be hounded by shoddy journalists trying to get a story.
It seems tome that Miss Meadows an the school have handled this very well, why would / should this be something like this be an issue? I'm sure that if the parents had tried to explain this it would have been far more complicated as they would not have all the answers. as Mr Cowie shows by calling the brave teacher a transvestite, and as reported
A mum said: “It’s his life, but he can dress as a woman in his own time. It’s just going to confuse the children.”
this just shows a complete lack of understanding and compassion to the individual, do the parents really think that this is all it is about??
please for the sake of the teacher in question and the sake of the children stop going on about it and lets get on with life.
Good luck Miss Meadows
2:23pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Interocitor says...
2:24pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Interocitor says...
2:27pm Wed 19 Dec 12
paperboy70 says...
2:28pm Wed 19 Dec 12
AshleyAnne says...
If a child of seven is talking about transvestites they certainly didn't learn about it from the teacher concerned because that is the last thing she is.
If I was the teacher concerned I would be looking very carefully at what has been printed, committed to print by "concerned parties" and other "comments" made by various individuals. There is now, thank God, some very interesting legislation in respect of these matters and offences that may arise therefrom.
My interest?...I'm transgendered, my two best friends are transgendered. I'm accepted at work and in my neighbourhood and by my family.
Good luck to her. Hopefully she will be strong enough to withstand the idiots, bigots and other assorted morons she is bound to encounter. You go girl!
2:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Venomp says...
2:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
I have complained regarding the issue as my children are both very confused about the issue. I was the one answering all their questions they had not the school.
Everyone is going on about what is best for Mr Upton/Miss Meadows, what about what is best for the children.
I am not against what people do in their private life but this has been impacted on parents and children. Please bare in mind the parents had no say in whether there children were told. Children from the age of 4 years were told so yes infants were included too, are these children supposed to understand this I do not think so.
As for me being an idiot, bigot etc. No I am a concerned parent which I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE!.
I complained through the right channels though instead.
Everyone is good luck to him, what about the children it could affect, those that dont understand what will it do to their education?
Yes he is a good teacher that I cannot fault him for in any way. This should have been handled differently thats all I am saying
2:58pm Wed 19 Dec 12
worried parent2 says...
In school we trust that teachers will strive to do their best in order to educate our children for the future, by delivering 'age appropriate' content via a structured framework.
Were Miss Meadows starting as a new teacher in 2013, I, as I suspect is the case with most parents that have objections, would have little concern.
Why then am I currently extremely worried:
1. Where was the parental support prior to telling the children; parents were left to answer difficult questions without prior knowledge of the subject or how to handle it.
2. Children were informed before parents had the option to object.
3. Timing; is Christmas, the time when children should be celebrating and having fun, the best time to introduce contentious issues into school for them.
4. Should children at primary age, be forced to gain knowledge surrounding gender issues, primarily to support the requirements of an individual.
5. The children are already asking searching questions, this is likely to escalate in the New Year when Miss Meadows appears, support ? guidance ? counselling ? has this been considered or planned for ?
Yes Mr Upton has rights and I for one support him in having the right to live life as he pleases.
Morally however, when entering the teaching profession, I feel he entered into a career which requires far more dedication than contractual considerations allow for, he should have moved schools to protect the minds of our most precious gifts, our children!
3:10pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Excluded again says...
I can remember having to learn the new name for one of my teachers when i was at primary school. She got married over the Easter break. Somehow I coped.
3:14pm Wed 19 Dec 12
karltop says...
Unfortunately the rights of "Miss Meadows" trumps those of the pupils and parents.If you disagree with that, you're a bigot/arrogant/ignor
ant/insert other insults here, because that's the world we now live in.
3:20pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Adswood7 says...
3:26pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
As a parent I put my children first no matter what I am called.
These children are the future, children of that age shouldnt need to know!
Anyone commenting whose children are not at the school need to think twice as it doesnt affect you
3:31pm Wed 19 Dec 12
retired one says...
3:31pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
3:39pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
3:40pm Wed 19 Dec 12
badref says...
3:41pm Wed 19 Dec 12
karltop says...
3:41pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
3:42pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
3:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
There is a lot more thinking that needs to be done this is no were near as straight forward as those supporting this thinks. This has not been thought though at ALL!
3:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
3:50pm Wed 19 Dec 12
karltop says...
3:53pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
3:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
3:57pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
3:58pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
As a parent I have a right to explain things to my children if I choose to this right was took away from me, along with other parents.
I have no problem with the way any people live there lives at home or away from school. As long as it is not done in front of my children without my consent first. That is the problem I have my children should be talking about Santa, not asking questions about a teacher.
4:02pm Wed 19 Dec 12
paperboy70 says...
4:04pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
4:09pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
The school strive on being approachable so why didnt they do the decent thing and approach the parents of the children they teach, way before and have meetings regarding it. This should not be forced on MY children.
You really need to step back and look at how this is going to affect the children in the long term.
4:12pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
4:16pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
4:24pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
4:25pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Erm,But says...
The concerns you have can be so easily dispelled by learning a bit about the issues.
When you state that parents 'should have been consulted' what does that mean? You, because you have a child at the school feel you are qualified to challenge a decision made adhering to the law and school policy in a healthy wonderful way as the school have done? No, with all due respect, having a car does not make you a mechanic and having a child does not make you qualified to understand what is best for a healthy culture within a school.
We are free to parent as we wish and tackle any issues as we wish....blustering and complaining and shrilly shreiking about how terrible this is in front of children is what will cause long term confusion.
You are seeking to have an individual who is good at their job removed from the school because you're a bit uninformed.
Shame on you for showing such a lack of compassion.
Congratualtions to the school.
4:30pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
4:35pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Whydidtheybanme? says...
4:37pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
4:38pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
I could really go into how this should have been dealt with from start to finish.
Why because I have children and know what questions they are going to ask because of this.
Which part of I, ME, THE PARENT, should have told my children do YOU simply not understand??
4:47pm Wed 19 Dec 12
teacher125 says...
4:47pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Erm,But says...
Why didn't they know that some people are a little different than you or I and that that's ok? That's all it takes. There doesn't need to be an in depth discussion.
This issue should not be about sex or gender or relationships. It should be about how it's ok to be who you are, no matter what anyone thinks.
4:50pm Wed 19 Dec 12
beeny77 says...
4:50pm Wed 19 Dec 12
Erm,But says...
' because I didn't get the chance'
It was not a literal question. So don't worry.
4:54pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
4:56pm Wed 19 Dec 12
fudgie87 says...
As a parent I have that right of when I explain things to my children. END OFF DISCUSSION FROM ME, ITS FALLING ON DEAF EARS!
5:08pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wayne cowie says...
5:12pm Wed 19 Dec 12
worried parent2 says...
Well yes true, assuming that there were no other options.
As a teacher I am sure you believe in education, many comments posted within this discussion, relate to the supposed ignorance of parents. Why are they ignorant of the facts?
Surely they should be well informed, after all they received a newsletter with a full two lines in the middle of it covering the issue.
Writing to the governors was equally productive,
"we've passed your letter to our legal representative".....
..How Helpful !
Educating parents, allowing plenty of time for preparation and discussion whilst planning with a sensible timescale to inform the children would have been far more appropriate.
A fully informed parent may not be as concerned, how about sending home a proper information leaflet containing all of the facts, not two lines in a newsletter!!
5:42pm Wed 19 Dec 12
llm123 says...
5:46pm Wed 19 Dec 12
LittleMissKc says...
5:48pm Wed 19 Dec 12
mys says...
6:31pm Wed 19 Dec 12
wrinkles says...