Police swoop on Lancashire bus was false alarm (From Lancashire Telegraph)

probably had a couple sneaky puffs of a fag and set fire to the container he put it in, then tipped liquid in to put it out?.

useyourhead wrote:
probably had a couple sneaky puffs of a fag and set fire to the container he put it in, then tipped liquid in to put it out?.

Seems like a reasonable guess.

Can't decide if this is someone sticking their nose where it isn't needed or a genuine fear for their own safety.

JayEss wrote:

useyourhead wrote: probably had a couple sneaky puffs of a fag and set fire to the container he put it in, then tipped liquid in to put it out?.

Seems like a reasonable guess. Can't decide if this is someone sticking their nose where it isn't needed or a genuine fear for their own safety.

I suspect that this is a sign of the times we live in. I think that the guess of a sneaky fag and a bag that needed to be put out is probably right, especially considering the fact the police are not treating anyone as a suspect. After the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber and 7/7, anyone doing anything like that is going to make most people panic: especially if they aren't the type to need a sneaky fag on a very long trip!

are you allowed to take your own food and drink onboard? They might just have been making themselves a quick brew from a flask.

Hysterical over-reaction to a nothing situation causes untold frustration and massive delays. So inevitably a phalanx of excuses is trotted out as they hide behind the 'public safety' line. Pathetic incompetence on a vast scale leaves the Keystone Kops looking incredibly stupid.

Mass decontamination units, army bomb disposal teams, armed police officers+ fire brigade and ambulence personel, all over a Electronic cigarette if it this over the top now, what will happen in three weeks when the olympics start.

A total overreaction. Surely a few minutes questioning could have elicited the cause and source of the vapour. Perhaps just an excuse to pratise police tactics. How much will it all have cost?

Noiticer wrote:
A total overreaction. Surely a few minutes questioning could have elicited the cause and source of the vapour. Perhaps just an excuse to pratise police tactics. How much will it all have cost?

Bang on!

These e fags are just a dummy for smokers, why not just go cold turkey you weak willed morrons

2 for 5p wrote:
These e fags are just a dummy for smokers, why not just go cold turkey you weak willed morrons

Shove your advice up your a** You iliterate twohat.

"...armed officers calmly evacuated passengers with their full support and co-operation."

An easy enough trick, being calm when armed; did no-one among those on the bus - not even the caller - have an opportunity to say 'that one', thereby saving time? Wouldn't that have been useful 'support' of the investigation? Time, at taxpayers' expense, is plentiful and expensive.

Over reaction?? I don't think so, they also pulled over the coach on the toll road which can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks. This was the best stretch of motorway to do it on.

For all those criticising...what if it hadn't turned out to be innocent & your relatives were travelling on that bus...would you still be saying they over reacted? No, I didn't think so.

I notice the fire brigade never receive the same level of criticism for 2 engines & fully attired firemen turning up to small fires etc....end of the day, they have to because they don't know what the end result will be...same way the police didn't know what the outcome would have been yesterday. They have to be prepared for every eventuality in situations like that. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn't arrived able to deal with any outcome & the bus had blown up?

Regardless of the outcome, there was no cash wasted in my eyes because it was still a valuable exercise & the experience will be invaluable should next time turn out to be the real thing.

Fire Fly wrote:
Over reaction?? I don't think so, they also pulled over the coach on the toll road which can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks. This was the best stretch of motorway to do it on.

For all those criticising...what if it hadn't turned out to be innocent & your relatives were travelling on that bus...would you still be saying they over reacted? No, I didn't think so.

I notice the fire brigade never receive the same level of criticism for 2 engines & fully attired firemen turning up to small fires etc....end of the day, they have to because they don't know what the end result will be...same way the police didn't know what the outcome would have been yesterday. They have to be prepared for every eventuality in situations like that. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn't arrived able to deal with any outcome & the bus had blown up?

Regardless of the outcome, there was no cash wasted in my eyes because it was still a valuable exercise & the experience will be invaluable should next time turn out to be the real thing.

What a load of bucking follocks that is. I travelled down that very road on Monday and it was every bit as busy as the adjacent M6. You can see from the pictures that there WERE massive tailbacks but then you say that as it was quiet (which it wasn't) this made it the best stretch of motorway to do it on. Then you throw in some hypothetical mumbo-jumbo which may as well have asked us how we'd feel if our auntie had **** in which case she'd be our uncle.

This was a hysterical over-reaction based on the idiotic ramblings of someone priding themselves on being 'vigilant'. There should be prizes for being stupid and this person would be a shamed recipient.

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Fire Fly wrote:
Over reaction?? I don't think so, they also pulled over the coach on the toll road which can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks. This was the best stretch of motorway to do it on.

For all those criticising...what if it hadn't turned out to be innocent & your relatives were travelling on that bus...would you still be saying they over reacted? No, I didn't think so.

I notice the fire brigade never receive the same level of criticism for 2 engines & fully attired firemen turning up to small fires etc....end of the day, they have to because they don't know what the end result will be...same way the police didn't know what the outcome would have been yesterday. They have to be prepared for every eventuality in situations like that. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn't arrived able to deal with any outcome & the bus had blown up?

Regardless of the outcome, there was no cash wasted in my eyes because it was still a valuable exercise & the experience will be invaluable should next time turn out to be the real thing.

What a load of bucking follocks that is. I travelled down that very road on Monday and it was every bit as busy as the adjacent M6. You can see from the pictures that there WERE massive tailbacks but then you say that as it was quiet (which it wasn't) this made it the best stretch of motorway to do it on. Then you throw in some hypothetical mumbo-jumbo which may as well have asked us how we'd feel if our auntie had **** in which case she'd be our uncle.

This was a hysterical over-reaction based on the idiotic ramblings of someone priding themselves on being 'vigilant'. There should be prizes for being stupid and this person would be a shamed recipient.

I love it when people like you try to formulate replies!

Firstly, I didn't say it was quiet at the time of the incident, I said it (the toll road) can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks...the statement was in general reference.

Secondly, no I cannot see the pictures to which you refer because they aren't with this article. I'd have thought that would have been fairly obvious even to you. However, as i've not disputed that there were any tailbacks & clearly haven't seen said pictures, i'll put it down to yet another of the inane ramblings that you're prone to due to never seeming to grasp whats actually said before aggressively spitting your dummy out at people on this forum. A typical playground bully.

With regards to my hypothetical mumbo-jumbo....well Chris P Bacon...the rest of your sentence (mocking me) doesn't make sense, does it?

And the best bit of all, after your misreading & then ranting about things that weren't said/seen etc etc...you have the audacity to call other people stupid...priceless, I can't stop laughing!

Fire Fly wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Fire Fly wrote:
Over reaction?? I don't think so, they also pulled over the coach on the toll road which can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks. This was the best stretch of motorway to do it on.

For all those criticising...what if it hadn't turned out to be innocent & your relatives were travelling on that bus...would you still be saying they over reacted? No, I didn't think so.

I notice the fire brigade never receive the same level of criticism for 2 engines & fully attired firemen turning up to small fires etc....end of the day, they have to because they don't know what the end result will be...same way the police didn't know what the outcome would have been yesterday. They have to be prepared for every eventuality in situations like that. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn't arrived able to deal with any outcome & the bus had blown up?

Regardless of the outcome, there was no cash wasted in my eyes because it was still a valuable exercise & the experience will be invaluable should next time turn out to be the real thing.

What a load of bucking follocks that is. I travelled down that very road on Monday and it was every bit as busy as the adjacent M6. You can see from the pictures that there WERE massive tailbacks but then you say that as it was quiet (which it wasn't) this made it the best stretch of motorway to do it on. Then you throw in some hypothetical mumbo-jumbo which may as well have asked us how we'd feel if our auntie had **** in which case she'd be our uncle.

This was a hysterical over-reaction based on the idiotic ramblings of someone priding themselves on being 'vigilant'. There should be prizes for being stupid and this person would be a shamed recipient.

I love it when people like you try to formulate replies!

Firstly, I didn't say it was quiet at the time of the incident, I said it (the toll road) can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks...the statement was in general reference.

Secondly, no I cannot see the pictures to which you refer because they aren't with this article. I'd have thought that would have been fairly obvious even to you. However, as i've not disputed that there were any tailbacks & clearly haven't seen said pictures, i'll put it down to yet another of the inane ramblings that you're prone to due to never seeming to grasp whats actually said before aggressively spitting your dummy out at people on this forum. A typical playground bully.

With regards to my hypothetical mumbo-jumbo....well Chris P Bacon...the rest of your sentence (mocking me) doesn't make sense, does it?

And the best bit of all, after your misreading & then ranting about things that weren't said/seen etc etc...you have the audacity to call other people stupid...priceless, I can't stop laughing!

I love it when people like you, realising you've dropped an enormous clanger, are then jolted into attempting to justify the defenceless nonsense you cringe to think you have made.

I rightfully called the hysterical idiot who over-reacted to seeing something he/she'd never seen before stupid because they were extremely stupid. And that made me laugh too.

Admit you've lost an unwinnable argument because you can't defend this excuse for a trial run garnering maximum publicity.

You don't like it when you get egg all over your face, do you?

We may expect that emergency personnel have been trained in a variety of scenarios and so don't need or consider this affair as practice. If some think it useful to expose these personnel to 'non-drill' situations then we need only wait for one to appear; the alternative of sending them to Afghanistan thought too costly even for the taxpayer's deep pocket.

It's pleasing to note that armed personnel have been trained to behave calmly. One is accustomed to seeing TV reports of them all at once shouting and shooting as if they don't know the difference. The least worth saying is that this is a nuisance.

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Fire Fly wrote:

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Fire Fly wrote: Over reaction?? I don't think so, they also pulled over the coach on the toll road which can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks. This was the best stretch of motorway to do it on. For all those criticising...what if it hadn't turned out to be innocent & your relatives were travelling on that bus...would you still be saying they over reacted? No, I didn't think so. I notice the fire brigade never receive the same level of criticism for 2 engines & fully attired firemen turning up to small fires etc....end of the day, they have to because they don't know what the end result will be...same way the police didn't know what the outcome would have been yesterday. They have to be prepared for every eventuality in situations like that. Can you imagine the outcry if they hadn't arrived able to deal with any outcome & the bus had blown up? Regardless of the outcome, there was no cash wasted in my eyes because it was still a valuable exercise & the experience will be invaluable should next time turn out to be the real thing.

What a load of bucking follocks that is. I travelled down that very road on Monday and it was every bit as busy as the adjacent M6. You can see from the pictures that there WERE massive tailbacks but then you say that as it was quiet (which it wasn't) this made it the best stretch of motorway to do it on. Then you throw in some hypothetical mumbo-jumbo which may as well have asked us how we'd feel if our auntie had **** in which case she'd be our uncle. This was a hysterical over-reaction based on the idiotic ramblings of someone priding themselves on being 'vigilant'. There should be prizes for being stupid and this person would be a shamed recipient.

I love it when people like you try to formulate replies! Firstly, I didn't say it was quiet at the time of the incident, I said it (the toll road) can never be described as very busy leading to massive tailbacks...the statement was in general reference. Secondly, no I cannot see the pictures to which you refer because they aren't with this article. I'd have thought that would have been fairly obvious even to you. However, as i've not disputed that there were any tailbacks & clearly haven't seen said pictures, i'll put it down to yet another of the inane ramblings that you're prone to due to never seeming to grasp whats actually said before aggressively spitting your dummy out at people on this forum. A typical playground bully. With regards to my hypothetical mumbo-jumbo....well Chris P Bacon...the rest of your sentence (mocking me) doesn't make sense, does it? And the best bit of all, after your misreading & then ranting about things that weren't said/seen etc etc...you have the audacity to call other people stupid...priceless, I can't stop laughing!

I love it when people like you, realising you've dropped an enormous clanger, are then jolted into attempting to justify the defenceless nonsense you cringe to think you have made. I rightfully called the hysterical idiot who over-reacted to seeing something he/she'd never seen before stupid because they were extremely stupid. And that made me laugh too. Admit you've lost an unwinnable argument because you can't defend this excuse for a trial run garnering maximum publicity. You don't like it when you get egg all over your face, do you?

Oh dear, lets try to keep this as simple as possible for you.

In my first reply, I clarified what I had actually said for you because with you being somewhat intelectually challenged, you'd not read it correctly & were spouting inane drivel in response.

In this reply, I shall explain a simple fact of life for you...I dont have to justify my opinion to you. I firmly stand by what I originally posted & believe about this situation - I really dont care what you think & that's why i'm not disputing your opinion re this being an over reaction.

Just because you dont like my opinion, that doesn't then turn it into an unwinnable argument for me. You've, not unsurprisingly, failed to understand that it's not my place to defend the police & other emergency services response the other day...that's for for them. I simply have an opinion on it. I suspect that's probably gone right over your head.

So no, there has been no enormous clanger dropped, no attempt to justify my opinion and certainly no egg on my face.

However, i'm thoroughly enjoying you making a total pratt of yourself the more you try to argue with me.

Ha, people still think that islamic terrorists are everywhere and that massive over the top actions like yesterday are needed.The events of 7th July 2005,the only successful "islamic terrorist" attacks are still, seven years on, debatable.