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‘UNPRECEDENTED’ Hospital bosses said emergency admissions peaked on Monday ‘UNPRECEDENTED’ Hospital bosses said emergency admissions peaked on Monday

AN ‘UNPRECEDENTED’ rush of patients has caused ‘chaos’ at hospital emergency departments, patient watchdogs and unions claim.

Health chiefs admitted patients had to queue on ambulance stretchers on Monday night as A&E departments and urgent care centres were inundated with cases.

Critics slammed the situation at Royal Blackburn Hospital and Burnley General Hospital.

East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust said it had launched an investigation into “exceptionally high” numbers of patients, many of whom were arriving by ambulance.

But it denied that wards had become so full that doctors had been forced to treat patients inside ambulances.

One woman said she “could not believe her eyes” when she took her mother to the A&E department at Royal Blackburn Hospital after she had suffered a suspected heart attack.

The woman, who did not wish to be named, said the 67-year-old waited five hours for treatment.

She said: “It was horrendous, absolute chaos.

“What I witnessed was heartbreaking, elderly people queuing on ambulance stretchers waiting to be seen as there was nowhere else available and ambulance bays full to capacity.

“The ambulance staff can’t leave the stretchers so they have to stay before they can go on another job.

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“I was talking to a nurse who said the last six days have been terrible and she had worked a 12-hour shift without a break.”

Russ McLean, chairman of the ELMS Patient Voice Group which represents patients across East Lancashire, said he understood there had only been 10 beds free on Monday night.

Mr McLean said: “I’m appalled to think that patients have to be treated in such circumstances.

“I was horrified to hear that there was a limited number of beds available because that’s not good from a patient’s point of view and anybody working in the health service. It’s putting a great deal of strain on our marvellous doctors and nurses too.

“There is no other trust in Lancashire suffering with these problems, so it’s my firm belief that it’s down to bad management of resources.”

Tim Ellis, UNISON’s regional health officer for East Lancashire, said reducing staff had limited capacity and caused “chaos”.

He said: “Our health workers at the Royal Blackburn Hospital are reporting increasing difficulties and chaos as the Government NHS cuts bite.

“Queues for services are increasing and at times of winter stress in A&E in particular there is a real risk that the cuts will not just mean delays in treatment but the risk of injuries or even unnecessary deaths.

“The Government should stop its harebrained reorganisation of the NHS with all its wastes and costs; stop its cuts and put more money and resources into frontline health care.”

North West Ambulance Service NHS Trust (NWAS) said Monday had been an “extremely busy” day. It had responded to 772 emergency calls in Lancashire and Cumbria, including 277 classed as “immediately life threatening”.

It has seen a 15 per cent rise in the number of 999 calls in four weeks.

But when asked about patients being treated in the back of ambulances and waiting on ambulance stretchers, it said it did not wish to comment ‘on East Lancashire Hospitals’ position.’

An NWAS spokesman said: “At extremely busy times like this, we endeavour to work with hospitals to ensure patient handovers are as quick as possible.

“The number of 999 calls to the service still remains high, so we would like to remind people that 999 services are for life-threatening and emergency conditions only.”

If your condition is not serious or you have an urgent need but are unsure which service to use you can call the new free 111 NHS telephone number.

Dr Charles Thomson, consultant in emergency medicine for East Lancashire Hospitals, said: “Services are coping but the high numbers are proving a real challenge.

“Emergency services are for emergencies and if you need urgent medical attention rather than a 999 call you should dial the new 111 number to seek that advice.”

Clare Clark, the trust’s matron in emergency medicine, said the trust was seeing a high number of “elderly, poorly patients” but there was no particular pattern to the admissions.

She said: “It is especially important for elderly people and their relatives to think about stocking up their cupboards, making sure they have their prescriptions and keeping as warm as possible.

“It is also a time for us to be good neighbours and check whether our elderly or more vulnerable neighbours need any help or support.”

Neil Upson, the trust's divisional general manager for medicine, added: "While we have seen a significant increase in attendances we are coping thanks to the fantastic efforts of our staff, although some delays have been unavoidable."

Comments(32)

deejayfatboy says...
11:58am Wed 22 Feb 12

we had to wait 2 hours queuing in the corridor before anyone was seen, there seems to be no staff to sort any problems out

ossylad says...
12:26pm Wed 22 Feb 12

Is it not the case that as it is impossible to get an appointment at your local GP poorly people choose the next best option of going to hospital?

l m h jones says...
1:07pm Wed 22 Feb 12

it wasnt just the evening of monday similar issue on monday morning and last week wonder if there needs to be a similar exercise here to the one which swooped on lancaster recently?

jack daniels says...
1:32pm Wed 22 Feb 12

Yet again the telegraph is misleading with its title. Nobody died, so therefore the paper just scaremongering. I can imagine that the experienced staff implemented a triage system and systematically worked their way through the patients they had.

Well done to the LT for demoralising an already haggard set of people.

Between_the_lions says...
1:34pm Wed 22 Feb 12

ossylad wrote:
Is it not the case that as it is impossible to get an appointment at your local GP poorly people choose the next best option of going to hospital?
They could of course go to the GP Unit opposite KFC instead of accident and emergency if it is the case of not being able to get a doctors appointment.

If NHS Direct didn't direct everyone to hospital (**** covering manoeuvre) that would help too.

jack daniels says...
1:36pm Wed 22 Feb 12

ossylad wrote:
Is it not the case that as it is impossible to get an appointment at your local GP poorly people choose the next best option of going to hospital?
I can imagine that this contributed to the mess that was A+E on Monday

laura7x says...
1:42pm Wed 22 Feb 12

having worked on a&e reception, and my mother having worked on a&e for the past 16 years, it isn't necessarily the shortage of staff that are to blame fully...the amount of people who come in for something so pathetic like a bumped toe, a child bumping their head yet appearing to be perfectly fine and boistrous, and some even ringing ambulances for hiccups (honestly, that has happened), its no wonder its busy! some people just need to keep trying there GP surgery to get an appointment, or if its something minor, take painkillers, cos majority of the time thats all the doctors give you anyway!!!

Cha'mone MF says...
1:51pm Wed 22 Feb 12

If only there was another A+E department say 12 miles or so further east that could ease the burden.......oh hang on a minute!

mixmaster says...
2:10pm Wed 22 Feb 12

if only they had kept full A+E services at burnley open then this mess would never happen in the first place.

janmela says...
2:23pm Wed 22 Feb 12

I was there Monday Evening and witnessed the chaos, Its time management woken up and did something . The Doctors and Nurses were fantastic and deserve every bit of praise.

ladysal says...
2:28pm Wed 22 Feb 12

Whilst I agree that the loss of Burnley A & E should never have happened, I have to agree with Laura7x. I once heard a blue light (emergency) call go out to an amublance to attend some one with cotton wool stuck. I will leave where to your imagination, but suffice to say that there was no way it was an emergency!! At the time, the ambulance service had to attend ALL 999 requests, so that was a massive waste of resources. Please, before you attend hospital, think whether you need to go at all. The wait for a GP may be long, but maybe there is always a pharmacist who can give a great deal of advice, or the GP Unit at the hospital. Don't forget 111: it is staffed by people trained to emergency operator standard, so they will be able to help.

A-in-Lanc says...
3:49pm Wed 22 Feb 12

yet again, the media find a way to publish a story, that happened on one Monday night, and manage to blame the hospital itself, and apparent 'critics' slam the workforce for chaos. If you have an unprecedented number of people arriving at one time, it will never run smooth, they are never, in a million years, going to put extra staff on 'just in case lots of people turn up' I was there for a short while, and it was a mess, but things like this happen

A-in-Lanc says...
3:49pm Wed 22 Feb 12

yet again, the media find a way to publish a story, that happened on one Monday night, and manage to blame the hospital itself, and apparent 'critics' slam the workforce for chaos. If you have an unprecedented number of people arriving at one time, it will never run smooth, they are never in a million years, going to put extra staff on 'just in case lots of people turn up' I was there for a short while, and it was a mess, but things like this happen

kateash says...
4:16pm Wed 22 Feb 12

I have it from on high that there were not enough beds. When they are sending people home on the day after a major op with a drain in because there are shortages of beds then there is a major problem!! They always skirt round it by saying they coped with it but when their senior managers are saying there is a problem there sure is. A-in-lanc is in clous cuckoo land! This should not be happening! Those ambulances are blocked while the paramedics have to wait with the patient while A and E is cleared. Not much consolation if it is needed in say Barnoldswick for someone having a severe asthma attack. It will take half an hour to get to the patient and another half an hour to get to Blackburn A and E.

ossylad says...
4:28pm Wed 22 Feb 12

jack daniels wrote:
ossylad wrote:
Is it not the case that as it is impossible to get an appointment at your local GP poorly people choose the next best option of going to hospital?
I can imagine that this contributed to the mess that was A+E on Monday
Well Jack we agree on one thing!

Best wishes

Maxy64 says...
5:52pm Wed 22 Feb 12

I was working there on Monday and Tuesday night and yes it was tough, but we coped.

Why Mr Ellis from UNISON feels the need to use my hard work and the hard work of my colleagues to make his pointless political comments is beyond me. It was not chaos Mr Ellis, but it was bloody hard work. You were not there! You are out of touch and do not represent the views of the staff. You are supposed to support us. Mr Docking stop going to rent a quote. Oh and my UNISON resignation letter is in the post!

hunter3062 says...
6:40pm Wed 22 Feb 12

08-30 phoned my gp after a weekend of mild to chronic pain in my chest,not been a doctor myself but gathered i wasent having a heart attack or stroke i took pain killers, was told by the surgery after explaining the symptoms oh we cant see you here you have to go to the ccu unit at burnley,why i dont think its that serious was my reply, well chest pains cant be dealt with by your local gp.ok off i go 20 mins to park, 3hrs in ccu 1 triage nurse 2 doctors and an xray to tell me i had a chest infection 1 course of biotics and co-codomal 30 min wait in pharmacy 3 and a 1/2 wait tying up services my gp could have done in 20 mins.thats how these units become clogged up thanks rosegrove surgery.

bbgal says...
7:41pm Wed 22 Feb 12

This is not a one off, i wrote to my MP a couple of years ago when i witnessed this first hand. my mother was taken ill and had a long wait for an ambulance when we eventually got to A&E there were six other ambulances waiting outside unable to admit their patients and so were out of action to answer any more emergency calls. once on A&E had a five hour wait for a bed on MAU. It is most definitely not the staffs fault but a service deficit non the less. It was not a case of a shortage of staff but a shortage of beds.

and Hunter if it had turned out to be a heart problem who would you have blamed if it had not been investigated, be thankful your GP was proactive. We read in the papers all too often of peoples symptoms being shrugged off when they have in fact a serious condition.

KatoEarby says...
10:01pm Wed 22 Feb 12

There seems to be more and more cases when "Unprecedented" rushes of patients are catching the Royal Blackburn Hospital looking a little embarrassed this being the case we should look to see if the action of reducing Burnley to an Urgent Care Centre is working. This should be set against the duty that the east Lancashire trust has to provide a service. The question should be is the trust fulfilling the service it is contracted to supply. If East Lancashire Hospital Trust had foundation status then the Board and the Governors would have to be answering very serious questions. The lack of Foundation Status of the trust is leaving patients of East Lancashire short changed.

Of course if patients have not left the ambulance then they have not arrived in A&E therefore the target clock has and the short comings not started. We are then left with a shortage of Ambulances for the next emergency.

True we need people to contact 111 for non emergency situations but prior to that we need to get individuals to understand the difference between emergency and being ill.
There is a lot of work to be done here but the first thing we need is emergency provision to fit the need. Either Burnley needs to be reopened or Blackburn to be vastly expanded. Just to note that there is a distance of 28 miles between A&E provision - Airedale to Blackburn with the need to cross the Pennines. East Lancashire hospitals need to check that they are fulfilling their commitment.

Fire Fly says...
10:50pm Wed 22 Feb 12

Fact: A&E at RBH always has far too many patients attending for minor ailments that can be treated elsewhere.

If people can sit there for 5hours, without needing treatment & moaning...they shouldn't be there end of.

Its not that difficult a concept to grasp...Accident & Emergency, Urgent Care Centre...mean what they say on the tin...serious illnesses only folks.

P3t3z0rz says...
7:22am Thu 23 Feb 12

Absolutely disgusted with Blackburn hospital.I also noticed all of the people coming to the defence of the hospital also,there's no excuse for bad staff.They should be prepared for these types of scenario's but yet,here we are.

bb9 says...
7:56am Thu 23 Feb 12

Patient voice group, brilliant - makes a long wait even worse by stirring up waiting rooms, pestering understanding patient people to complain.

bb9 says...
7:56am Thu 23 Feb 12

Patient voice group, brilliant - makes a long wait even worse by stirring up waiting rooms, pestering understanding patient people to complain.

Fire Fly says...
9:11am Thu 23 Feb 12

P3t3z0rz wrote:
Absolutely disgusted with Blackburn hospital.I also noticed all of the people coming to the defence of the hospital also,there's no excuse for bad staff.They should be prepared for these types of scenario's but yet,here we are.
Of course they are prepared for major incidents etc but why put resource into having a service ready to deal with people too inconsiderate to wait to see their GP? There would a public outcry at wasting resource like that...probably by people with your views!

Before referring to the staff as bad...perhaps be aware of the types of illnesses / injuries that caused this influx to A&E first. If every person attending during this period came with an injury or illness that required urgent medical help....I will happily hold my hand up & eat hay with a donkey.

Until people get to grips with what an A&E service is for, these kinds of situations will always happen. I notice the other week when A&E was flooded with patients due to slips and falls on the ice...the LET didn't bother to mention how well they'd coped, all they did was mention the number of calls the ambulance service took.

The NHS is by no means perfect, Royal Blackburn included, but you can't lay the blame, soley at their door, for people who expect to be treated in A&E for minor illnesses.

ladysal says...
10:30am Thu 23 Feb 12

P3t3z0rz wrote:
Absolutely disgusted with Blackburn hospital.I also noticed all of the people coming to the defence of the hospital also,there's no excuse for bad staff.They should be prepared for these types of scenario's but yet,here we are.
Explain bad staff.
There are a limited number of staff. There is a limited amount of space.
What exactly do you expect the staff to do? We don't often hear about bad care at A & E, so your remark is un-necessary and inaccurate.

jack daniels says...
10:42am Thu 23 Feb 12

P3t3z0rz wrote:
Absolutely disgusted with Blackburn hospital.I also noticed all of the people coming to the defence of the hospital also,there's no excuse for bad staff.They should be prepared for these types of scenario's but yet,here we are.
it's not so much 'bad staff' but 'short staffed'.

Shame you can't tell the difference...

kateash says...
4:17pm Thu 23 Feb 12

Hunter you should be thankful you have such good GP's as those at Rosegrove surgery. They are always polite and helpful and if necessary all the staff will go out of their way to accomodate and care for their patients! They signposted you in the right direction. If it had been a heart attack you would have been most grateful I am sure!

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10:25pm Thu 23 Feb 12

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10:25pm Thu 23 Feb 12

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barryinthailand says...
8:16pm Fri 24 Feb 12

jack daniels wrote:
Yet again the telegraph is misleading with its title. Nobody died, so therefore the paper just scaremongering. I can imagine that the experienced staff implemented a triage system and systematically worked their way through the patients they had.

Well done to the LT for demoralising an already haggard set of people.
Jack Ive only just read this so maybe the Telegraph changed the headline, but the one Im reading says nothing about people dying just lying :)

Karamac says...
12:40am Mon 27 Feb 12

It's Sunday 26th & Royal Blackburn still have a bed shortage! 11am into Urgent Care and Dad didn't get a bed until about 5:30pm on MAU & he was still there when we left at 10pm. The man opposite was sent to a bed on a Day Care Ward - I had heard that they were re-opening wards that were closed, but struggling to find staff. God knows where Dad will be tomorrow? BUT MUST ADD - all the staff have been very good - we have to remember it's not their fault there aren't enough beds/staff to cope with the demand. We simply need more beds for the area that Blackburn now has to cover.

jack daniels says...
6:53am Mon 27 Feb 12

barryinthailand wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Yet again the telegraph is misleading with its title. Nobody died, so therefore the paper just scaremongering. I can imagine that the experienced staff implemented a triage system and systematically worked their way through the patients they had.

Well done to the LT for demoralising an already haggard set of people.
Jack Ive only just read this so maybe the Telegraph changed the headline, but the one Im reading says nothing about people dying just lying :)
It's not the first time they've done this!

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