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6:50pm Saturday 2nd April 2011 in Blackburn
A protest by the English Defence League and a counter-demonstration passed off largely peacefully in Blackburn today after a huge police operation.
Lancashire Police prepared for its biggest ever policing operation around the protests, taking place either end of Northgate separated by steel barriers.
Numbers were limited to 3,000 for each protest.
However, police estimate 2,000 supporters of the EDL gathered with around 500 people at the Blackburn with Darwen United Against Racism counter-protest.
12 arrests were made for offences such as breach of peace, police assault, assault, drunk and disorderly, threatening behaviour, affray and obstruction.
From early this morning, the streets of Blackburn were lined with police.
EDL protesters arrived on coaches in the Mincing Lane and Vue Cinema area from 10.30am.
Four pubs inside the fenced-off area were opened for them – the Zy Bar in Market Street Lane, Bar Ibiza in Mincing Lane, and the Sun and the Arena, both in Astley Gate.
Just after 12.30pm, the rising volume reaching the William Gladstone statue signalled the imminent arrival of the English Defence League, on their short march to the demonstration site outside King George’s Hall.
Police, brought the groups forward in waves, with EDL ‘marshals’ wearing bibs leading the way.
As they spread out into the boxed-off area, the demonstrators - largely men but including some women and teenagers - congregated around the stage.
Shortly afterwards the EDL’s leader, who uses the name Tommy Robinson, addressed the crowd, which was singing songs like a raucous football crowd.
He was flanked by EDL members holding placards with photographs of local people who have died.
Speakers took to the stage to denounce Jack Straw, hit-and-run drivers, and 'militant Islam'.
The first brawl broke out as Mr Robinson singled out one member of the crowd for abuse, claiming threats had been made online.
As more than 12 men fought, someone said over the tannoy: “We are here to fight militant Islam, not each other.”
The second brawl lasted almost 10 minutes and was sparked by a bottle being thrown towards the stage.
Local Blackburn EDL leader, who only gave his name as 'Aussie Dave' said: "I was happy with the turn-out but disgusted with the small number that were causing trouble.
"The police and stewards have done really well but I am just upset about the trouble that there's been. It was a minority who wanted trouble."
Kevin Carroll, EDL joint national leader, came from Luton to take part. He said hundreds of people had travelled long distances to the protest.
He said: "We had a few little skirmishes but it was just a few people trying to cause trouble.
"It has been a great show today and people who deliberately set out to cause trouble shouldn't be allowed to ruin it.”
The EDL protest finished at 1.45pm, overlapping the counter-demonstration in Sudell Cross which began at 1pm and ended at 3pm.
Blackburn and Darwen United Against Racism's protest included local trade unionists and councillors and members of Lancashire Council of Mosques, Blackburn College Students’ Union, Unite Against Fascism and the Muslim Defence League.
Speeches were given where the EDL was compared to Hitler, Mussolini and Oswald Mosley.
Coun Kate Hollern, Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council leader, urged listeners to protest peacefully and not let ‘the EDL split Blackburn’.
Some Asian protesters were wearing T-shirts declaring: ‘Born here. Bred here. Proud to be here’.
At 1.30pm some protesters, mostly young male, tried to charge the barriers keeping them from the area close to the EDL protest.
As stewards battled to calm the atmosphere, firecrackers were thrown on the floor. However, police were not sufficiently worried to step in and stewards brought it under control.
Organisers on the stage appealed for calm, reminding protesters that violence would achieve nothing.
With the time approaching 2pm hundreds of protesters decided they wanted to leave the area, with the exit manned by police and stewards.
But with EDL members having finished their demo just 15 minutes earlier, counter-protesters were kept in the area, infuriating many. More firecrackers were thrown and the narrow path to the exit became a bottle-neck.
Afterwards, Maurice Ffelan, spokesman for Blackburn and Darwen United Against Racism said he was pleased with the protest.
“I think it has gone well,” he said. “I think despite a bit of disorder, we put on a united front. We are all opposed to the EDL and we demonstrated that without any violence.”
After the demonstrations ended, a heavy police presence remained, in particular at the entrance to Whalley Range in Barbara Castle Way.
Pubs re-opened at 4pm, ahead of the Arsenal and Blackburn Rovers match which was being screene on television.
A heavy police presence remains in town this evening in case there are any outbreaks of trouble and the police helicopter is still flying overhead.
Bob Eastwood, divisional commander for eastern division at Lancashire Police, said: "Although there were minor scuffles amongst the EDL demonstrators, there was no significant disorder.
"The events have passed mostly without incident and I would like to thank the local community for their help and tolerance during the events and the lead up to them.
"All our officers and staff should also be commended for their efforts, as well as those who have worked alongside us from other organisations, in particular Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council, community volunteers, marshals and mediators.
"The aim of the policing operation was to allow for peaceful protests which we have demonstrated is possible through careful planning and successful communication at all levels."
The Lancashire Telegraph provided live updates from the protests.
Click on the link below for live videos and photo galleries.
REPORTING TEAM: Paul Cockerton, Ian Singleton, David Watkinson, Tom Moseley, Chris Hopper, Catherine Pye, Jon Livesey and Sam Chadderton.
Comments(146)
Diogenes The Cynic
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11:25am Sat 2 Apr 11
gudari
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11:49am Sat 2 Apr 11
cerretto
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ghanto
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Newradder
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astabee
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Hopping mad
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2:39pm Sat 2 Apr 11
ghanto wrote:Isn't it said of " kill the infidels " and calling British troops murderers a crime?
this issue is about racists and mustnt be allowed at the first place
Racism is a crime but gathering racists people to demonstration is not a crime??
All waste of time and the world has to carry on
Usually muslim and edl must stay peacefully
Z.Y
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3:19pm Sat 2 Apr 11
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Livalot
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astabee
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madmurphy
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astabee
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ChiRho
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4:14pm Sat 2 Apr 11
neesh
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4:31pm Sat 2 Apr 11
ChiRho wrote:islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .
madmurphy
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4:45pm Sat 2 Apr 11
neesh wrote:The thing is we dont see muslims out on the streets condeming it.
ChiRho wrote:islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .
berniep
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4:48pm Sat 2 Apr 11
mikebuk
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4:50pm Sat 2 Apr 11
neesh
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5:03pm Sat 2 Apr 11
madmurphy wrote:maybe you do have agood point there, and i see where you're coming from. muslim community leaders should get off their backsides and start organising events that show the extremists that all muslims are not like them,and such mindless violence against ordinary and innocent civilians can not and will not be accepted or tolerated,my heart goes out to all the innocents killed yesterday and their families. the taliban have a lot to answer for,may the Lord Allmighty give them what's due.
neesh wrote:The thing is we dont see muslims out on the streets condeming it. Silence is as good as condoning.ChiRho wrote: Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
neesh
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5:04pm Sat 2 Apr 11
gutterpress
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5:11pm Sat 2 Apr 11
TyronethePikey
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5:17pm Sat 2 Apr 11
gudari wrote:Tommy Testies is open they are having a megga sale on Sandals Buy One And Get One Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Tommy Ball's closed? I can't believe they've opened up any pubs.! If there's a big football match the pubs are all closed and they allow this lot the right to a pint?
Salamnder
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5:19pm Sat 2 Apr 11
madmurphy wrote:Did you say the same about the catholics when there was a IRA attack? Nope, I doubt it, so why are Muslims different? Because you want it that way so you can attack them.
neesh wrote:The thing is we dont see muslims out on the streets condeming it.
ChiRho wrote:islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .
Silence is as good as condoning.
MannyD
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Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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astabee
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s_smith
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6:01pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Z.Y
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6:03pm Sat 2 Apr 11
madmurphy wrote:no im not avin a 'giraffe'. and neither am i assuming all young males r members of the edl! i have friends who are white and theyre attitudes towards muslims are by far different to that of the edl. we haved lived in this country and all the white friends love r halal meat so where you say a majority dnt eat curry i think u mean a minority. Peace.........
Muslims peacfull? Your having a giraffe. And you will find that the majority of EDL members do not eat curry, as a boycott of halal meat. You just asume that all young white males who like a beer or 3 are members of the EDL. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=137QG-6n5 z0&feature=relat
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paul lafargue
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astabee
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ghanto
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MannyD
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ibby128
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CaroleNWI
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paul lafargue
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astabee wrote:What is your evidence for your lies and outrageous smear?
once again in Paul Lafargues post above as in others on this site we see simmering under the surface anti semitism hatred of Jews. These people would have been at home helping out in ww2 Germany
CaroleNWI
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6:53pm Sat 2 Apr 11
ghanto
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paul lafargue
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CaroleNWI wrote:Hello Carole
If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.
PK Bailey
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Yusuf (Joseph)
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mattykhan
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7:43pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth
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CaroleNWI wrote:Mad Carol at it again. Come monday you will be the first in queue for your benefits. As for never surrendering - well thats true where you and your benefit is concerned.
If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.
Smooth
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7:58pm Sat 2 Apr 11
CaroleNWI wrote:LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.
Arrpi
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8:00pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Arrpi
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8:02pm Sat 2 Apr 11
CaroleNWI wrote:Looks like you've already surrendered part of your English heritage though... the language.
If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.
Dickiepayshey
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jack daniels
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8:12pm Sat 2 Apr 11
mikebuk wrote:that's no way to talk about your mother and your sister.
From the video, the usual bunch of troglodytes, chavs, ugly bastards and slags on view.
jack daniels
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8:15pm Sat 2 Apr 11
astabee wrote:I have to agree. Regular commentors roverspal and racistcatcher show such hatred towards jews that Himmler himself would be disgusted.
once again in Paul Lafargues post above as in others on this site we see simmering under the surface anti semitism hatred of Jews. These people would have been at home helping out in ww2 Germany
astabee
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8:15pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth
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8:16pm Sat 2 Apr 11
CaroleNWI wrote:I suggest we march in Caroles hometown so we can make sure that she should learn to read and write. After all that is something every one should be entitled to.
If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.
jack daniels
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8:20pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Dickiepayshey wrote:Yeah, well done all. 12 arrests when engaging in a difficult protest has shown that there is some maturity within the league. The harder the EDL works in showing the reasons for the protests are not just about mindless racism and prejudice, the better chance there is of making a change.
Bit of a bad day for the BBC lefties and Guardian plonkers. All set up to report trouble and had to traipse off disappointed.
jack daniels
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8:25pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:Maybe if public money was not used for English lessons for immigrants, along with free housing and medical care, people like Carole would have had a better education. As it is, we have to put up with childish, smart a$$ remarks from you. If literacy skills are all you can comment on, you’ve not done too well at defending your opinions on Islam and immigration.
CaroleNWI wrote: If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.I suggest we march in Caroles hometown so we can make sure that she should learn to read and write. After all that is something every one should be entitled to. I await your town details Carole and promise that we will march in your town to stop you getting thicker and thicker. By the way the fact that EDL were eating a the halal KFC shows that they know a good thing when they see it - good nourishing halal food that keeps you marching - lol!!!!!!!!!
Smooth
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8:26pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:Hey morons you should watch the BBC and SKY - they are showing that you children of the incest spent 45 minutes fighting amongst yourselves and only 15 minutes marching with australian and scottish flags - LOL. The newslreader on sky was actually laughing when he read this out and then the thread was shown.
Dickiepayshey wrote: Bit of a bad day for the BBC lefties and Guardian plonkers. All set up to report trouble and had to traipse off disappointed.Yeah, well done all. 12 arrests when engaging in a difficult protest has shown that there is some maturity within the league. The harder the EDL works in showing the reasons for the protests are not just about mindless racism and prejudice, the better chance there is of making a change.
astabee
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8:32pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels
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8:32pm Sat 2 Apr 11
mattykhan wrote:My Grandfather was in WW2 and He fought for democracy and that is what happened today, whether you like it or not. Don’t sulk just because you don’t like what you hear.
The edl deserved to be locked up, to think how much this 'protest' has cost the taxpayer and the traders who had to shut up shop.The edl carry the Flag of England they are disgrace to the flag and the values that this country upholds. To think WW2 was fought to rid the world of fascism now a group walks the streets with the same ideology. What a disgrace!
Smooth
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8:33pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:Hey inbred manimal I welcome the diversity and if you move your lazy arse and get a job you would have less time to spend having the daily mail read to you.
Smooth wrote:Maybe if public money was not used for English lessons for immigrants, along with free housing and medical care, people like Carole would have had a better education. As it is, we have to put up with childish, smart a$$ remarks from you. If literacy skills are all you can comment on, you’ve not done too well at defending your opinions on Islam and immigration.CaroleNWI wrote: If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.I suggest we march in Caroles hometown so we can make sure that she should learn to read and write. After all that is something every one should be entitled to. I await your town details Carole and promise that we will march in your town to stop you getting thicker and thicker. By the way the fact that EDL were eating a the halal KFC shows that they know a good thing when they see it - good nourishing halal food that keeps you marching - lol!!!!!!!!!
astabee
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8:39pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels
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8:39pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:So you believe everything you see and hear in the media, my little brainwashed friend? How many protesters turned up? 500? Not many from a town of 105000. From the footage I watched they were mostly Asian too. How many indigenous people attended on behalf of their Muslim friends? Multicultural society? Where was that smoothy?
jack daniels wrote:Hey morons you should watch the BBC and SKY - they are showing that you children of the incest spent 45 minutes fighting amongst yourselves and only 15 minutes marching with australian and scottish flags - LOL. The newslreader on sky was actually laughing when he read this out and then the thread was shown. What you did show by coming to balckburn is how well the lancashire coppers trained in dealing with you losers and the other losers as well. The fact that you lot spent time eating in a HALAL KFC says it all. Enough said.Dickiepayshey wrote: Bit of a bad day for the BBC lefties and Guardian plonkers. All set up to report trouble and had to traipse off disappointed.Yeah, well done all. 12 arrests when engaging in a difficult protest has shown that there is some maturity within the league. The harder the EDL works in showing the reasons for the protests are not just about mindless racism and prejudice, the better chance there is of making a change.
Smooth
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8:46pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels
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8:47pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:seemples - What does this mean? Do you have the ESOL contact details at hand?
jack daniels wrote:Hey inbred manimal I welcome the diversity and if you move your lazy arse and get a job you would have less time to spend having the daily mail read to you. As for caroles lack of education - seemples, she sign up for a online course in ESOL that will be delivered via a call centre in Mumbai - LOL That reminds me - well done to India - fantastic win and a great cricket world cup. Oh by the way the reason Carole is stupid is nothing to do with her ethinicity or the immigration and islamic issues - she is just too fookin lazy - although i suppose scientifically that could be hereditary - open to views on this aspect though.Smooth wrote:Maybe if public money was not used for English lessons for immigrants, along with free housing and medical care, people like Carole would have had a better education. As it is, we have to put up with childish, smart a$$ remarks from you. If literacy skills are all you can comment on, you’ve not done too well at defending your opinions on Islam and immigration.CaroleNWI wrote: If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.I suggest we march in Caroles hometown so we can make sure that she should learn to read and write. After all that is something every one should be entitled to. I await your town details Carole and promise that we will march in your town to stop you getting thicker and thicker. By the way the fact that EDL were eating a the halal KFC shows that they know a good thing when they see it - good nourishing halal food that keeps you marching - lol!!!!!!!!!
jack daniels
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8:50pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:Jacky boyo, I like that. It has a certain ring to it.
What I saw from EDL was mainly eastern europeans who had been paid hansomely for a day out and a bite to eat at your local HALAL KFC my incestious and rather dim jacky boyo. If holding a scottish and australian flags is about englishness then jacky boyo you have a potential career in the media industry - LOL As for the other side - hey their were the same as you losers - amazing it reminds of the smiths unrealeased single - "all the losers of the world unite". I take it you are related to Carole? Sill question, please asnwer. Please tell us which town we need to march for caroles education needs.
Smooth
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8:55pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:Bit difficult to get upset jacky boyo as I am just preparing for a trip around the world - third time in few years. Now i know that the rest of the world is an laien concept to you and Carole.
Smooth wrote:seemples - What does this mean? Do you have the ESOL contact details at hand? Do you mean Daily Mail? Capital letters for names, if memory serves. Seems I have easily upset you, which is why you have dropped into petty racist stereo-typing. You have sunk to this level by yourself, and so quickly too. How do you know that both Carole and I are unemployed? Are you stalking us? You are getting to be a bit of an odd ball.jack daniels wrote:Hey inbred manimal I welcome the diversity and if you move your lazy arse and get a job you would have less time to spend having the daily mail read to you. As for caroles lack of education - seemples, she sign up for a online course in ESOL that will be delivered via a call centre in Mumbai - LOL That reminds me - well done to India - fantastic win and a great cricket world cup. Oh by the way the reason Carole is stupid is nothing to do with her ethinicity or the immigration and islamic issues - she is just too fookin lazy - although i suppose scientifically that could be hereditary - open to views on this aspect though.Smooth wrote:Maybe if public money was not used for English lessons for immigrants, along with free housing and medical care, people like Carole would have had a better education. As it is, we have to put up with childish, smart a$$ remarks from you. If literacy skills are all you can comment on, you’ve not done too well at defending your opinions on Islam and immigration.CaroleNWI wrote: If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.I suggest we march in Caroles hometown so we can make sure that she should learn to read and write. After all that is something every one should be entitled to. I await your town details Carole and promise that we will march in your town to stop you getting thicker and thicker. By the way the fact that EDL were eating a the halal KFC shows that they know a good thing when they see it - good nourishing halal food that keeps you marching - lol!!!!!!!!!
jack daniels
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8:55pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:Well if the EDL can ‘pay handsomely’ (you missed a D), it suggests that they are earning good money. This clearly goes against your poor image of the EDL, and actually suggests that people should join it as a way of improving their social standing. Well done smoothy in showing us the way!
What I saw from EDL was mainly eastern europeans who had been paid hansomely for a day out and a bite to eat at your local HALAL KFC my incestious and rather dim jacky boyo. If holding a scottish and australian flags is about englishness then jacky boyo you have a potential career in the media industry - LOL As for the other side - hey their were the same as you losers - amazing it reminds of the smiths unrealeased single - "all the losers of the world unite". I take it you are related to Carole? Sill question, please asnwer. Please tell us which town we need to march for caroles education needs.
jack daniels
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8:59pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:You know so many things yet are so stupid.
jack daniels wrote:Bit difficult to get upset jacky boyo as I am just preparing for a trip around the world - third time in few years. Now i know that the rest of the world is an laien concept to you and Carole. Come on, you and Carole are unemployed and probably suffering from indigestion after your HALAL meal at my favourite KFC. I dont think anyone needs to stalk you Jacky Boyo - stupid and lazy people are easily recognisable, even fro their stupid rants on this thread. Yours intellectually superior and well off Smoothy. By the way I hear that you lot eating in the HALAL KFC will be be on the You Tube soon. Holly smoke cant wait to see that - am sure that will be on the main KFC website to promote their products to true english people (!!!!!!!!!). Ciao PendajoSmooth wrote:seemples - What does this mean? Do you have the ESOL contact details at hand? Do you mean Daily Mail? Capital letters for names, if memory serves. Seems I have easily upset you, which is why you have dropped into petty racist stereo-typing. You have sunk to this level by yourself, and so quickly too. How do you know that both Carole and I are unemployed? Are you stalking us? You are getting to be a bit of an odd ball.jack daniels wrote:Hey inbred manimal I welcome the diversity and if you move your lazy arse and get a job you would have less time to spend having the daily mail read to you. As for caroles lack of education - seemples, she sign up for a online course in ESOL that will be delivered via a call centre in Mumbai - LOL That reminds me - well done to India - fantastic win and a great cricket world cup. Oh by the way the reason Carole is stupid is nothing to do with her ethinicity or the immigration and islamic issues - she is just too fookin lazy - although i suppose scientifically that could be hereditary - open to views on this aspect though.Smooth wrote:Maybe if public money was not used for English lessons for immigrants, along with free housing and medical care, people like Carole would have had a better education. As it is, we have to put up with childish, smart a$$ remarks from you. If literacy skills are all you can comment on, you’ve not done too well at defending your opinions on Islam and immigration.CaroleNWI wrote: If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.I suggest we march in Caroles hometown so we can make sure that she should learn to read and write. After all that is something every one should be entitled to. I await your town details Carole and promise that we will march in your town to stop you getting thicker and thicker. By the way the fact that EDL were eating a the halal KFC shows that they know a good thing when they see it - good nourishing halal food that keeps you marching - lol!!!!!!!!!
salvadore
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9:02pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth
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9:03pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Smooth wrote: What I saw from EDL was mainly eastern europeans who had been paid hansomely for a day out and a bite to eat at your local HALAL KFC my incestious and rather dim jacky boyo. If holding a scottish and australian flags is about englishness then jacky boyo you have a potential career in the media industry - LOL As for the other side - hey their were the same as you losers - amazing it reminds of the smiths unrealeased single - "all the losers of the world unite". I take it you are related to Carole? Sill question, please asnwer. Please tell us which town we need to march for caroles education needs.Well if the EDL can ‘pay handsomely’ (you missed a D), it suggests that they are earning good money. This clearly goes against your poor image of the EDL, and actually suggests that people should join it as a way of improving their social standing. Well done smoothy in showing us the way!
flykeeper1970
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9:04pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels
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9:04pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth
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9:06pm Sat 2 Apr 11
salvadore wrote:Now you and Jack Daniels and Carole must all be related. Bloody hell this is getting seriously complicated. I suggest you all move in.
to carole and jack daniels You don't haif talk rubbish, I was there at the supporting the UAF. There were more than 500 of us infact there was a huge number of people waiting and seeing but not part of the main demonstration.People didn't turn up because a lot of the mosque told people to stay away. Secondly the indeginous community didn't turn up because they know that EDL are a bunch of thugs which spreads lies about Islam. Most of the indeginous population see through the EDL idiots. remember matey ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND IS STILL GROWING WHY? BECAUSE THEY SEE SALVATION IN ISLAM ANS PEACE. Muslim nations don't go around bombing innocent people for their oil. Thats the chrsitian west, the christian fundamentalist and i'm afraid you and carole are christian fundamentalist. The catholic priests abuse children that doesn't mean all priests are the same. Neither the actions of some muslims who rightly or wrongly defending their religion kill people doesn't mean all muslims are the same. Grow up and get a job.
tenerc
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salvadore
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Smooth
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9:12pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:You are right Jacky Boyo about how much is spent on ESOL, Free Housing and free medical care for the indigenious populus in this country. I refer you to Ian Duncan Smiths (DWP Minister) report entitled "Broken Britain". Read it and weep Jacky Boyo.
@ smoothy. My very first comment to you was about the amount of money spent on ESOL, free housing and free medical care. At no point have addressed these important issues. All you did was reinforce my opinion that you where childish and a smart a$$. I hate it when I’m right, but for you I’ll make an exception.
jack daniels
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9:13pm Sat 2 Apr 11
salvadore wrote:"Grow up and get a job"
to carole and jack daniels You don't haif talk rubbish, I was there at the supporting the UAF. There were more than 500 of us infact there was a huge number of people waiting and seeing but not part of the main demonstration.People didn't turn up because a lot of the mosque told people to stay away. Secondly the indeginous community didn't turn up because they know that EDL are a bunch of thugs which spreads lies about Islam. Most of the indeginous population see through the EDL idiots. remember matey ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND IS STILL GROWING WHY? BECAUSE THEY SEE SALVATION IN ISLAM ANS PEACE. Muslim nations don't go around bombing innocent people for their oil. Thats the chrsitian west, the christian fundamentalist and i'm afraid you and carole are christian fundamentalist. The catholic priests abuse children that doesn't mean all priests are the same. Neither the actions of some muslims who rightly or wrongly defending their religion kill people doesn't mean all muslims are the same. Grow up and get a job.
Smooth
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9:17pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:You two should definitely move in - LOL!!!!
salvadore wrote: to carole and jack daniels You don't haif talk rubbish, I was there at the supporting the UAF. There were more than 500 of us infact there was a huge number of people waiting and seeing but not part of the main demonstration.People didn't turn up because a lot of the mosque told people to stay away. Secondly the indeginous community didn't turn up because they know that EDL are a bunch of thugs which spreads lies about Islam. Most of the indeginous population see through the EDL idiots. remember matey ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND IS STILL GROWING WHY? BECAUSE THEY SEE SALVATION IN ISLAM ANS PEACE. Muslim nations don't go around bombing innocent people for their oil. Thats the chrsitian west, the christian fundamentalist and i'm afraid you and carole are christian fundamentalist. The catholic priests abuse children that doesn't mean all priests are the same. Neither the actions of some muslims who rightly or wrongly defending their religion kill people doesn't mean all muslims are the same. Grow up and get a job."Grow up and get a job" How childish. Are you going to get your dad on me if I call you a name? Islam is world's biggest because you have lots of kids and they have no choice but to be hetrosexual and Muslims. "Straight off to the madressa for you my boy" I heard on the grape vine that the 'local community leaders' had asked for people to go down to support the UAF. Now if the population of Blackburn is 105000 and the muslim community is at 25%, that should have been (takes off shoes and socks) 25000 people. Yep. I can see how I missed that number of people as I drove down Barbra Cartland way. *Sings "No body loves ya, everybody hates ya, i best go and live off worms"
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9:19pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:Fantastic!
jack daniels wrote: @ smoothy. My very first comment to you was about the amount of money spent on ESOL, free housing and free medical care. At no point have addressed these important issues. All you did was reinforce my opinion that you where childish and a smart a$$. I hate it when I’m right, but for you I’ll make an exception.You are right Jacky Boyo about how much is spent on ESOL, Free Housing and free medical care for the indigenious populus in this country. I refer you to Ian Duncan Smiths (DWP Minister) report entitled "Broken Britain". Read it and weep Jacky Boyo. As for being smarter than you - that isn't so hard is it!!!! I eat people like you for breakfast from an intellectual aspect. Go and get educated. Its one of the greatest thing my country has given to every citizen and you being on benefits can get it for free. Go on educate and prosper and leave these rantings to the crazies.
salvadore
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9:20pm Sat 2 Apr 11
pocketdragon
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jack daniels
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9:24pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:Hold on a minute... You just quoted Ian and Duncan Smith as a credible source. Now I’ve seen everything. You do know that Ian, Duncan, and the rest of the Condems have absolutely no idea what they are doing don’t you? Please don’t tell me you are thicker that you have already made yourself out to be.
jack daniels wrote: @ smoothy. My very first comment to you was about the amount of money spent on ESOL, free housing and free medical care. At no point have addressed these important issues. All you did was reinforce my opinion that you where childish and a smart a$$. I hate it when I’m right, but for you I’ll make an exception.You are right Jacky Boyo about how much is spent on ESOL, Free Housing and free medical care for the indigenious populus in this country. I refer you to Ian Duncan Smiths (DWP Minister) report entitled "Broken Britain". Read it and weep Jacky Boyo. As for being smarter than you - that isn't so hard is it!!!! I eat people like you for breakfast from an intellectual aspect. Go and get educated. Its one of the greatest thing my country has given to every citizen and you being on benefits can get it for free. Go on educate and prosper and leave these rantings to the crazies.
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9:25pm Sat 2 Apr 11
salvadore wrote::0P
barbara castle way you neandarthal, You should gorw up. I don't need my dad you christian fundamentalist, you know you guys put the 'fun' back in to fundamentalism. People didn't turn up because THEY KNOW THE EDL ARE JUST RACIST THUGS, GET IT JACK. NOW GO AN HIT THE ROAD JACK. As for whether we are loved or not well all those converts turning to islam for an aswer everyday speaks for them selves.
Smooth
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9:26pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:Oh my Jacky Boyo have i upset you with my superior intellect. I cant apologise for being your better but then you are a by-product of a "Broken Britain" and once this coalition government has its way with you spongers then am sure you will end up in ajob at a HALAL KFC - LOL. hey you never know Carole could end up working at onme of those BME community organisations as a development worker - now that would be so ironic - dont you think so.
Smooth wrote:Fantastic! Well done smoothy. Did you find MS word™ spell checker? It’s funny how you’ve dropped all the ‘inbred’ and ESOL stuff now you are trying to take the high ground. Too late the hero my friend, you’ve already shown yourself to be a buffoon of the highest calibre.jack daniels wrote: @ smoothy. My very first comment to you was about the amount of money spent on ESOL, free housing and free medical care. At no point have addressed these important issues. All you did was reinforce my opinion that you where childish and a smart a$$. I hate it when I’m right, but for you I’ll make an exception.You are right Jacky Boyo about how much is spent on ESOL, Free Housing and free medical care for the indigenious populus in this country. I refer you to Ian Duncan Smiths (DWP Minister) report entitled "Broken Britain". Read it and weep Jacky Boyo. As for being smarter than you - that isn't so hard is it!!!! I eat people like you for breakfast from an intellectual aspect. Go and get educated. Its one of the greatest thing my country has given to every citizen and you being on benefits can get it for free. Go on educate and prosper and leave these rantings to the crazies.
jack daniels
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9:27pm Sat 2 Apr 11
pocketdragon wrote:well said.
Trying to understand where all the 'tolerant' citizens hide when all the bad press hits such as 9/11, 7/7, child groomers, insurance scams and drug dealing. I mean, surely they dont actually think this is acceptable? I for one am tired of my kids not even being able to have a nativity play at christmas! I believe there is a difference between the views on here and that tolerance is different to ignorance. Tolerance is what we have of all people in our society but ignorance is burying our heads in the sand until its too late. We are a nanny state who panders to unacceptable whims of those who really shouldn't be demanding. Those same people who expect us to visit their land and abide by every silly rule they cooked up years and years ago like not showing leg or arms, not drinking after 2pm and waving to your left after every passing cloud. I for one will quite happily join the edl and say enough is enough. I am also, before judgement is passed, from a middleclass background. Grow a pair and stand up for your beliefs, rights and country (and fuel prices while we're at it).
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9:29pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Yusuf (Joseph) wrote:the best letter i have read we raped and plundered lots of countries for there copper, gold , diamonds, now its oil , we have alot to answere for, i left school60 years ago with a good history and geography education so i know whats going on,i did not see any protests when the ira were bombing are cities and then we were all the same religion. time these young uns learned there history to see were ther roots came from, lack of education
The reason that there are unrests in the Muslim world is because countries like ours and US are out there for centuries causing havoc, raiding for riches, oil, diamond and anything they can get their hands on. Wherever the British empire has landed has left distruction. The west is built on eastern blood. As for Halal, the Jewish meat is the same names Kosher (boycott M&S now) but won't say anything about them. Just live in peace and let others live in peace.
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Smooth
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9:35pm Sat 2 Apr 11
jack daniels wrote:You have to laugh at this posting. if pocket dragon was such a patriot why still waiting to join - answer after having eaten at the HALAL KFC has come to his/her senses and realised that needs mum and dads money to survive and further the booze and drugs are getting expensive. Now that is surely growing a pair and relaising that once a lazy is always a lazy.
pocketdragon wrote: Trying to understand where all the 'tolerant' citizens hide when all the bad press hits such as 9/11, 7/7, child groomers, insurance scams and drug dealing. I mean, surely they dont actually think this is acceptable? I for one am tired of my kids not even being able to have a nativity play at christmas! I believe there is a difference between the views on here and that tolerance is different to ignorance. Tolerance is what we have of all people in our society but ignorance is burying our heads in the sand until its too late. We are a nanny state who panders to unacceptable whims of those who really shouldn't be demanding. Those same people who expect us to visit their land and abide by every silly rule they cooked up years and years ago like not showing leg or arms, not drinking after 2pm and waving to your left after every passing cloud. I for one will quite happily join the edl and say enough is enough. I am also, before judgement is passed, from a middleclass background. Grow a pair and stand up for your beliefs, rights and country (and fuel prices while we're at it).well said.
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9:42pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth
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9:46pm Sat 2 Apr 11
MannyD wrote:Well said and further illustrates the pointlessness of all these marches and the participants.
I actually have a serious question. What have the EDL and UAF morons achieved? Why do you even exist? I've visited their forums and websites, and they have no aim, no purpose no end-game, on the EDL it's a bunch of illiterates who can barely string a sentence together shouting "No Mosques" on the UAF side it's a similar group of idiots screaming " No Fascism". They both look like a load of work shy benefit scroungers, who else would have all this time to organise these huge "protests"? You know I'm right on this. They go from town to town like cockroaches, causing businesses to shut down and lose thousands of pounds in trade. For what?
FIREFLY69
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FIREFLY69
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BOROFCEDL
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Dickiepayshey
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10:01pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:MannyD wrote:
MannyD wrote: I actually have a serious question. What have the EDL and UAF morons achieved? Why do you even exist? I've visited their forums and websites, and they have no aim, no purpose no end-game, on the EDL it's a bunch of illiterates who can barely string a sentence together shouting "No Mosques" on the UAF side it's a similar group of idiots screaming " No Fascism". They both look like a load of work shy benefit scroungers, who else would have all this time to organise these huge "protests"? You know I'm right on this. They go from town to town like cockroaches, causing businesses to shut down and lose thousands of pounds in trade. For what?Well said and further illustrates the pointlessness of all these marches and the participants.
nzonziblue
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10:04pm Sat 2 Apr 11
FIREFLY69
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FIREFLY69
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Joey99
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10:23pm Sat 2 Apr 11
FIREFLY69 wrote:That sites filth man! You should be ashamed of yourself
lads in question have been let out on part 4 bail charge going equipted ( that ones in batman costumes ) must have had condom in there utility belts lol something to do with pmgescorts.com
l m h jones
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10:26pm Sat 2 Apr 11
CaroleNWI wrote:thanks for the laugh
If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.
FIREFLY69
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10:32pm Sat 2 Apr 11
timeforcommonsense
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10:35pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Z.Y wrote:Muslims also gamble and drink which is supposed to be against their religion. They also profit from the sale of cigarettes and alcohol and in some instances, prostitution, which again are all supposed to be against their religion. What's your point? Only one race/religion has ever placed so many demands on this country to change so much to suit them. This is in line with their teachings that the world should be a muslim world. If it isn't their intention to convert this country to a muslim country then why don't they settle in countries that are already muslim. Carry on in blissful ignorance, you blinkered short sighted left wing spineless do gooders will all look very silly one day.
racism is a crime, its not in anyones religion to be racist. if muslims can eat fish and chips n be peacefull then why do the edl eat curries and do the opposite?
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10:54pm Sat 2 Apr 11
timeforcommonsense wrote:That is because all the Muslim countries are invaded by the west simple! You prob haven't noticed but why are the Muslim countries blessed with natural riches as soon as the west seen them they've attacked, snatched and taken away what is not theirs. They telling the poor kids on the street of Iraq or Afghanistan that we are here to take over your country whether you like it or not but you can't see that. Muslims are like every other religious ppl some good some bad just like the catholic priests carrying out child abuse, Christian terrorists in Ireland etc etc. Btw RIP the police Officer in Ireland killed by terrorists. media hyped propaganda but these are just little numbers.
Z.Y wrote: racism is a crime, its not in anyones religion to be racist. if muslims can eat fish and chips n be peacefull then why do the edl eat curries and do the opposite?Muslims also gamble and drink which is supposed to be against their religion. They also profit from the sale of cigarettes and alcohol and in some instances, prostitution, which again are all supposed to be against their religion. What's your point? Only one race/religion has ever placed so many demands on this country to change so much to suit them. This is in line with their teachings that the world should be a muslim world. If it isn't their intention to convert this country to a muslim country then why don't they settle in countries that are already muslim. Carry on in blissful ignorance, you blinkered short sighted left wing spineless do gooders will all look very silly one day.
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11:13pm Sat 2 Apr 11
Yusuf (Joseph)
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11:50pm Sat 2 Apr 11
astabee wrote:Nobody likes terrorism that is why I weep for the officer who has been murdered today by terrorists in Ireland. If we drop bombs on on innocent people for the sake of oil and riches then that's fine is it. If we send our boys to die in vain just to prove our solidarity with the other oil pinching countries and then tell the rest to come back home after loosing their limbs and mind that you don't have a job now caus we have spent all our money to throw bombs on these ppl. Now if I don't be angry about that then you don't deserve being British nor a human being who loves native peace and harmony.
Yusuf (joseph) dont make me laugh. Inner peace??? reading your contributions reveal to me a very bitter angry man with i suspect sympathies with terrorism.
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11:56pm Sat 2 Apr 11
madmurphy
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12:28am Sun 3 Apr 11
Z.Y wrote:First retaliation of a racist.... (I have friends who are white)
madmurphy wrote:no im not avin a 'giraffe'. and neither am i assuming all young males r members of the edl! i have friends who are white and theyre attitudes towards muslims are by far different to that of the edl. we haved lived in this country and all the white friends love r halal meat so where you say a majority dnt eat curry i think u mean a minority. Peace.........
Muslims peacfull? Your having a giraffe. And you will find that the majority of EDL members do not eat curry, as a boycott of halal meat. You just asume that all young white males who like a beer or 3 are members of the EDL. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=137QG-6n5 z0&feature=relat
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12:31am Sun 3 Apr 11
berniep wrote:This comment is missing a LIKE button.
Islam is about extremism & muslim,s will not recognise or tolerate any other religion, the EDL are protesting about the islam belief being forced upon Britain they are not racist.
We are not an Islam/muslim country but we soon will be if people like the EDL dont protest on our behalf.
The barbaric killing in Afghanistan of UN staff should be a wake up call to all the sympathisers of the "poor ethnic minorities" who feel they are having the finger pointed at them.
accringtonlas2011
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1:00am Sun 3 Apr 11
John James Senior
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1:03am Sun 3 Apr 11
BOROFCEDL wrote:You cannot even correctly spell the name of the useless bunch of no-hopers that you represent, the EDL really are a bunch of losers (imbeciles)!
The EDL is not a racist group it’s a protest group that protests against racist Islamists. The reason we were in your town today was to protest against the grooming and sexual abuse of young white non-Muslim girls or does this not matter to the people of Blackburn? The EDL does everything in its power to weed out the racists but on a day like today some will always slip through. We came to back the good people of Blackburn up not to cause trouble. Don’t believe the UAF and Taliban wannabe hype that we are what we say we are THE ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGE. NO SURENDER EVER TO ISLAMISTS !
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1:40am Sun 3 Apr 11
Salamnder wrote:You talk about IRA like you think you understand.
madmurphy wrote:Did you say the same about the catholics when there was a IRA attack? Nope, I doubt it, so why are Muslims different? Because you want it that way so you can attack them.
neesh wrote:The thing is we dont see muslims out on the streets condeming it.
ChiRho wrote:islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .
Silence is as good as condoning.
Anyway if they did condemn actions, you'd put it down to media manipulation, if they don't you consider they are condoning it.
madmurphy
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1:45am Sun 3 Apr 11
astabee wrote:Agreed. Another Lord Haw Haw
once again in Paul Lafargues post above as in others on this site we see simmering under the surface anti semitism hatred of Jews.
These people would have been at home helping out in ww2 Germany
madmurphy
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1:59am Sun 3 Apr 11
salvadore wrote:Are we talking about the same KFC on hasligden road? And the same subway in the town center? Hardly big asian communitys are they?
kfc, subway selling halal is strictly a business decision. there is a big asian community near by and they wanted to boost heir sales by selling halal. Nobody asked KFC to sell halal or even forced them why don't protest at KFC headquarters. I guess the EDL don't believe freedom of choice and freedom to do business.
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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7:32am Sun 3 Apr 11
madmurphy wrote:I realise you were only seven years at the time, but I think you'll find that Derry's name was changed to Londonderry in circa-1613.
Salamnder wrote:You talk about IRA like you think you understand.
madmurphy wrote:Did you say the same about the catholics when there was a IRA attack? Nope, I doubt it, so why are Muslims different? Because you want it that way so you can attack them.
neesh wrote:The thing is we dont see muslims out on the streets condeming it.
ChiRho wrote:islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .
Silence is as good as condoning.
Anyway if they did condemn actions, you'd put it down to media manipulation, if they don't you consider they are condoning it.
I spent 14 years growing up in the streets of Derry. I was 7 years old when the Government decided to change the name Derry to Londonderry. You never witnessed the trouble this caused. At 9 years old I heard a dull sounding thud with a tinkling sound that made my ears ring, from just around the corner from where I was with my mother helping her do the shopping. This thud was a nail bomb exploding in a pub, the tinkling sound was the glass showering onto the street.
When me and my mother went around the corner to see what it was, my mother just said `oh God `and sat down on the pavement. I stood and looked at the scene, but did`nt understand what was happening. All i could see was people, some running around, some sitting down, and some lying down. I could also see what was a bloody mess of debris scattered everywhere.The smell was like soot from a chimney. It was all silent for quite some time, as everybody was in shock.
Then after a while the screams of pain started, people were crying and saying all sorts of things. I looked at a lady who was sitting on the kirb, her face was full of blood which was mingled with dust, and she was saying she had to get home to put the tea on, she kept repeating this over and over ("I have to get home to put the tea on, I have to get home to put the tea on"). The pub was totally wrecked, but funny enough the duke box started to play on its own. (Slade, Mama were all crazy nowm how ironic). It semmed like hours before the ringing bells of the Gards and police arrived. (Gards means Garda which is police from republic side of Ireland)(Derry is right on the border and was policed by both at the time).
So I would have to say I was a bit too young at the time to stand up to the IRA. And too young to understand the links to catholics you suggest.
But I will say that what I saw as a youngster growing up in a City torn apart by religion and politics, was not a thing that I would want my children and grandchildren to expirience.
Later in life I attended peace rallys in Larne(where my family moved to) and Belfast. These rallys were ordinery people standing against IRA, UDA, UDL, old uncle tom cobbley and all. Just as the EDL are doing now. It eventually worked for Ireland and the trouble stopped. So I hope this answered your question. Did you say the same about the catholics when there was a IRA attack?
I now live in Blackburn, I am an Irishman but I do not want to change England, I love England the way it is (English). I have many English friends who have made me very welcome here. My wife is Irish, but our children are 100% English, because we chose to settle here and accept the English way of doing things. I even wear an England football shirt when they play. I have not forgotten my Irishness, but I will gladly hang the St George cross from my window.
Sorry for waffling on everybody.
burtybasset
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8:56am Sun 3 Apr 11
Chris P Bacon
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9:01am Sun 3 Apr 11
BOROFCEDL wrote:But you're a moron. Just like this fine young upstanding example of your coterie.
The EDL is not a racist group it’s a protest group that protests against racist Islamists. The reason we were in your town today was to protest against the grooming and sexual abuse of young white non-Muslim girls or does this not matter to the people of Blackburn? The EDL does everything in its power to weed out the racists but on a day like today some will always slip through. We came to back the good people of Blackburn up not to cause trouble. Don’t believe the UAF and Taliban wannabe hype that we are what we say we are THE ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGE. NO SURENDER EVER TO ISLAMISTS !
Z.Y
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9:54am Sun 3 Apr 11
madmurphy wrote:i am not a racist - u r, ive never been racist towards any religion just dont like edl!!!!!!!!!
Z.Y wrote:First retaliation of a racist.... (I have friends who are white) Your own comments judge you.madmurphy wrote: Muslims peacfull? Your having a giraffe. And you will find that the majority of EDL members do not eat curry, as a boycott of halal meat. You just asume that all young white males who like a beer or 3 are members of the EDL. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=137QG-6n5 z0&feature=relat edno im not avin a 'giraffe'. and neither am i assuming all young males r members of the edl! i have friends who are white and theyre attitudes towards muslims are by far different to that of the edl. we haved lived in this country and all the white friends love r halal meat so where you say a majority dnt eat curry i think u mean a minority. Peace.........
Cottonwool over your eyes
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10:10am Sun 3 Apr 11
Lifeinthemix
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10:26am Sun 3 Apr 11
neesh
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11:25am Sun 3 Apr 11
Cottonwool over your eyes wrote:well said.
The matters EDL try to deal are all half baked and the actual context of the matter isn dealt with correctly. the people of the UK are the most luckiest in the world by a mile, free medical care, free schooling, and more free and free things. Just because you get hit a couple of pounds in the cuts you have a massive outrage, think yourselves lucky that you do get the basics in life, there are countries in the world where you have to pay your way, and live the hard life, the real life, not this bull5hit, Kids not disciplined, benefits, people dont give a 5hit, just because of the cuts, you go AWOL, what is the matter with you people, you drink, do drugs, commit adultery, let your kids have sex before they are married, and god knows what else, what kind of fcked up life do you people live, im not going to stereotype, because then il be prone to people using it as a comeback, but for sure from my days, i can remember that number of people in this field is staggering. the problem is you let the kids go off, no discipline, theres no respect , and then you complain why this country is going down the bin. Muslims on the other hand are more focused on priorities in life, such as education, religion, they have a strong link with each other, there are muslims that bring our reputation down,such as anjum choudry or extremists, but we stay away from them, in islam we have our own education system and the people who go through that systme are the most learned and will tell you the good things, while on the other you will have complete and utter knobheds that dont know fck all on the media making our religion look bad. but thats only a minority.So eventually when muslims people end up taking top jobs, idiots and plonkers like the EDL start to complain, well if you had concentrated at school instead of impressing your mates, you might have got somewhere. I want to know what EDL are trying to gain, you should be sent to jail , you wasted our public money, its not like we have the sultan of brunei sponsoring our borough, we dont have time for you muppets, matters get addressed by the governement, you worried about sexual grooming, well you want to know something, the only thing that seprates asian men who do that and white guys, is the colour, they dont get counted as they are evil, you judge people on thier looks, but just because theyre asian doesnt mean that the community is behind them, what do you think any right minded muslim or asian would do if he came accross such a putrid person, do you think hed let him anywhere near his family. As a asian i know that there are two sets in every community, good and bad, the bad are just good as any other criminal and the EDL. theyve overfed propaganda and now are locked into a bubble, believing lies, its madness how people dont use common sense on topics, reading up rubbish on internets no good, you cant trust people who put up info on there, they can be anyone talking under a fake alisas. if you want the real deal go to the proper muslims at the mosque. All the statistics and quotes i have seen on the on this debate are all either BBC,SKY, Youtube, some of you are believeing rubbish which doesnt make sense, you could actually try get a trusted source and no dont type something like 'sharia law in britain' , because youll be faced with a biased load of topic, you need to choose trusted source, half of you people just dont have the source to prove your comments, you always take the bad points of the story and twist it , and dissecting every bad point, while leaving a good point in the dark. Its just life
Smell the glove
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11:28am Sun 3 Apr 11
paul lafargue wrote:Paul Lafargue, besides your nonsensical attempts to deny the fact that anti-Zionism is a unique rejection of Jewish nationalism, (you don't seem to concerned about Arab nationalism), for someone who claims to be neither an anti-Semite nor a Jew hater, you do seem somewhat obsessed with them. Even if you you are not, as you generously claim, a 'Jew hater', you still sup from the same anti-Semitic sewer as the likes of Nasrallah and Ahmedinejad.
astabee wrote: once again in Paul Lafargues post above as in others on this site we see simmering under the surface anti semitism hatred of Jews. These people would have been at home helping out in ww2 GermanyWhat is your evidence for your lies and outrageous smear? I am neither an anti-Semite nor a Jew hater. I am however opposed to the evil racist and apartheid doctrine of Zionism. Not all Jews are Zionists and there are many notable Jewish opponents of Zionism and of the crimes that are committed by the terrorist State of Israel. You are singing the same old worn out tune of the Zionists, who claim that anyone who opposes their bombing and slaughter of Palestinian and Lebanese men women and children is a "Jew Hater". Of course this is a big lie on a par with those propagated by Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels, German politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda.
neesh
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11:37am Sun 3 Apr 11
RAyzer
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12:05pm Sun 3 Apr 11
paul lafargue
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1:10pm Sun 3 Apr 11
Smell the glove wrote:Hello Smell the glove
paul lafargue wrote:Paul Lafargue, besides your nonsensical attempts to deny the fact that anti-Zionism is a unique rejection of Jewish nationalism, (you don't seem to concerned about Arab nationalism), for someone who claims to be neither an anti-Semite nor a Jew hater, you do seem somewhat obsessed with them. Even if you you are not, as you generously claim, a 'Jew hater', you still sup from the same anti-Semitic sewer as the likes of Nasrallah and Ahmedinejad.astabee wrote: once again in Paul Lafargues post above as in others on this site we see simmering under the surface anti semitism hatred of Jews. These people would have been at home helping out in ww2 GermanyWhat is your evidence for your lies and outrageous smear? I am neither an anti-Semite nor a Jew hater. I am however opposed to the evil racist and apartheid doctrine of Zionism. Not all Jews are Zionists and there are many notable Jewish opponents of Zionism and of the crimes that are committed by the terrorist State of Israel. You are singing the same old worn out tune of the Zionists, who claim that anyone who opposes their bombing and slaughter of Palestinian and Lebanese men women and children is a "Jew Hater". Of course this is a big lie on a par with those propagated by Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels, German politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda.
Bat E Karen
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1:10pm Sun 3 Apr 11
Yusuf (Joseph)
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1:22pm Sun 3 Apr 11
neesh
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1:25pm Sun 3 Apr 11
EDLRFAGS
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3:25pm Sun 3 Apr 11
EDLRFAGS
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3:28pm Sun 3 Apr 11
EDLRFAGS wrote:EdLRFAGS
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Stone Island
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4:02pm Sun 3 Apr 11
EDLRFAGS wrote:I think your brain cell is on the blink.
EDLRFAGS wrote: EdLRFAGSEdLRFAGS
oldblackburnian
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5:26pm Sun 3 Apr 11
gaz03
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5:30pm Sun 3 Apr 11
Smooth wrote:nobody is asking anyone to surrender to Islam. you are free too do as you please. thank God you are a minority! Three of my very best friends are Catholics and they are an example.
CaroleNWI wrote: If ppl don't like us 4 what were fighting 4 well thats up to them but we will NEVER SURRENDER to Islam not now not EVER.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a funny women. You should consider becoming a comedian. You really have to LOL
tim otay71
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7:57pm Sun 3 Apr 11
Citsmiff
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8:37pm Sun 3 Apr 11
hairy mary
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8:48pm Sun 3 Apr 11
Hopping mad
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9:39pm Sun 3 Apr 11
salvadore wrote:Islam the fastest growing religion in the world and you want a reason? Is it because you can't stop breeding?
to carole and jack daniels
You don't haif talk rubbish, I was there at the supporting the UAF. There were more than 500 of us infact there was a huge number of people waiting and seeing but not part of the main demonstration.People didn't turn up because a lot of the mosque told people to stay away. Secondly the indeginous community didn't turn up because they know that EDL are a bunch of thugs which spreads lies about Islam. Most of the indeginous population see through the EDL idiots. remember matey ISLAM IS THE BIGGEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND IS STILL GROWING WHY? BECAUSE THEY SEE SALVATION IN ISLAM ANS PEACE. Muslim nations don't go around bombing innocent people for their oil. Thats the chrsitian west, the christian fundamentalist and i'm afraid you and carole are christian fundamentalist. The catholic priests abuse children that doesn't mean all priests are the same. Neither the actions of some muslims who rightly or wrongly defending their religion kill people doesn't mean all muslims are the same. Grow up and get a job.
roverspal
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10:03pm Sun 3 Apr 11
madmurphy wrote:I KNOW MOST EDL MEMBERS ARE ILLITERATE DRUNKARDS AS PROVEN ON SATURDAY,BUT MURPHY GET A LIFE AND A LOOK ON REALITY.. WAS IT NOT YOUR SCUM IRISH WHO BOMBED AND KILLED OVER A THOUSAND INNOCENT BRITISH WOMEN AND CHILDREN, DURING A THIRTY THREE YEAR PERIOD?? WAS IT NOT THE IRA WHO NEARLY KILLED A PRIME MINISTER STOPPED TRAFFIC FOR A JOKE EVEN WHEN BOMBS WERE NOT THERE??
Muslims peacfull? Your having a giraffe.
And you will find that the majority of EDL members do not eat curry, as a boycott of halal meat.
You just asume that all young white males who like a beer or 3 are members of the EDL.
http://www.youtube.c
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gaz03
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10:34pm Sun 3 Apr 11
roverspal
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10:42pm Sun 3 Apr 11
pocketdragon wrote:I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU MY ENGLISH FRIEND!!!
Trying to understand where all the 'tolerant' citizens hide when all the bad press hits such as 9/11, 7/7, child groomers, insurance scams and drug dealing. I mean, surely they dont actually think this is acceptable? I for one am tired of my kids not even being able to have a nativity play at christmas! I believe there is a difference between the views on here and that tolerance is different to ignorance. Tolerance is what we have of all people in our society but ignorance is burying our heads in the sand until its too late. We are a nanny state who panders to unacceptable whims of those who really shouldn't be demanding. Those same people who expect us to visit their land and abide by every silly rule they cooked up years and years ago like not showing leg or arms, not drinking after 2pm and waving to your left after every passing cloud.
I for one will quite happily join the edl and say enough is enough. I am also, before judgement is passed, from a middleclass background.
Grow a pair and stand up for your beliefs, rights and country (and fuel prices while we're at it).
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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10:45pm Sun 3 Apr 11
ENGLISH SKINHEAD wrote:I was very surprised to hear that the Irish Police Force patrolled the streets of Derry at the same time as the RUC.
madmurphy wrote:I realise you were only seven years at the time, but I think you'll find that Derry's name was changed to Londonderry in circa-1613.
Salamnder wrote:You talk about IRA like you think you understand.
madmurphy wrote:Did you say the same about the catholics when there was a IRA attack? Nope, I doubt it, so why are Muslims different? Because you want it that way so you can attack them.
neesh wrote:The thing is we dont see muslims out on the streets condeming it.
ChiRho wrote:islam it self is a religeon of peace,however the so called muslims who commit such horrendous crimes are to blame ,they do things in the name of islam which are unforgivable nothing justifies what happened yesterday and all right minded muslims condem it,islam forbids the taking of innocent lives ,i just wish these so called muslims obeyed the religion they claim to follow. i am a muslim so i know what my religion is about and it's not about what happened at the Nato compound.
Murdered by a mod leaving a mosque after praying to a god of the religion of "peace"... You decide. .
Silence is as good as condoning.
Anyway if they did condemn actions, you'd put it down to media manipulation, if they don't you consider they are condoning it.
I spent 14 years growing up in the streets of Derry. I was 7 years old when the Government decided to change the name Derry to Londonderry. You never witnessed the trouble this caused. At 9 years old I heard a dull sounding thud with a tinkling sound that made my ears ring, from just around the corner from where I was with my mother helping her do the shopping. This thud was a nail bomb exploding in a pub, the tinkling sound was the glass showering onto the street.
When me and my mother went around the corner to see what it was, my mother just said `oh God `and sat down on the pavement. I stood and looked at the scene, but did`nt understand what was happening. All i could see was people, some running around, some sitting down, and some lying down. I could also see what was a bloody mess of debris scattered everywhere.The smell was like soot from a chimney. It was all silent for quite some time, as everybody was in shock.
Then after a while the screams of pain started, people were crying and saying all sorts of things. I looked at a lady who was sitting on the kirb, her face was full of blood which was mingled with dust, and she was saying she had to get home to put the tea on, she kept repeating this over and over ("I have to get home to put the tea on, I have to get home to put the tea on"). The pub was totally wrecked, but funny enough the duke box started to play on its own. (Slade, Mama were all crazy nowm how ironic). It semmed like hours before the ringing bells of the Gards and police arrived. (Gards means Garda which is police from republic side of Ireland)(Derry is right on the border and was policed by both at the time).
So I would have to say I was a bit too young at the time to stand up to the IRA. And too young to understand the links to catholics you suggest.
But I will say that what I saw as a youngster growing up in a City torn apart by religion and politics, was not a thing that I would want my children and grandchildren to expirience.
Later in life I attended peace rallys in Larne(where my family moved to) and Belfast. These rallys were ordinery people standing against IRA, UDA, UDL, old uncle tom cobbley and all. Just as the EDL are doing now. It eventually worked for Ireland and the trouble stopped. So I hope this answered your question. Did you say the same about the catholics when there was a IRA attack?
I now live in Blackburn, I am an Irishman but I do not want to change England, I love England the way it is (English). I have many English friends who have made me very welcome here. My wife is Irish, but our children are 100% English, because we chose to settle here and accept the English way of doing things. I even wear an England football shirt when they play. I have not forgotten my Irishness, but I will gladly hang the St George cross from my window.
Sorry for waffling on everybody.
neesh
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12:42am Mon 4 Apr 11
tim otay71 wrote:or maybe because he is a fully signed up member of the EDL.(AND THAT IS A FACT)
To Neesh, Probably because the person is english is the reason for few comments. As most people are used to them being asian so are a bit shocked when they white!! lol
UnionJackForever
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3:39am Mon 4 Apr 11
roverspal wrote:Bloodyhell, the resident clown has appeared!
madmurphy wrote: Muslims peacfull? Your having a giraffe. And you will find that the majority of EDL members do not eat curry, as a boycott of halal meat. You just asume that all young white males who like a beer or 3 are members of the EDL. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=137QG-6n5 z0&feature=relat edI KNOW MOST EDL MEMBERS ARE ILLITERATE DRUNKARDS AS PROVEN ON SATURDAY,BUT MURPHY GET A LIFE AND A LOOK ON REALITY.. WAS IT NOT YOUR SCUM IRISH WHO BOMBED AND KILLED OVER A THOUSAND INNOCENT BRITISH WOMEN AND CHILDREN, DURING A THIRTY THREE YEAR PERIOD?? WAS IT NOT THE IRA WHO NEARLY KILLED A PRIME MINISTER STOPPED TRAFFIC FOR A JOKE EVEN WHEN BOMBS WERE NOT THERE?? YOU THINK THE EDUCATED WILL SUPPORT YOU?? AS THE LEADERSHIP COMES FROM A WOMAN BEATING IRISH FAMILY WHO IS NOT ELECTED BUT MAKES MONEY SELLING TOPS AND FLAGS THAT COST 25P FOR OVER FIVE POUNDS GIVING YOU A FANTASY DIVISION..LOL.. THE EDUCATED WOULD NEVER WALK ALONGSIDE SUCH RACIST SCUM WHO HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT IN LIFE..BESIDES DRUGS AND ALCOHOL..WHO HAVE HARDLY AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY ARE SHOUTING FOR AND ARE LED UP THE GARDEN PATH BY SOME SCUM FASCIST IRISHMEN.. YOU AND THE SAD WOMEN WHO FOLLOW YOU ARE SO NAIVE AND VULGAR THEY WILL FOLLOW ANYTHING.. I USED TO THINK STUPIDITY HAD A LIMIT OBVIOUSLY I AM WRONG..
callonamigo
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JB75
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halfhearted
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useyourhead
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roverspal
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5:34pm Tue 5 Apr 11
JB75 wrote:I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU MY ENGLISH FRIEND!!!
I'm sick of hearing people say "How much has this cost the tax payer?"
How many millions of pounds a year are spent on keeping the country safe from muslim extremists? How much time of peoples lives are wasted going through security at airports? Compare the cost of a persons right to protest with a persons right to feel safe, there is no comparison!
roverspal
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5:40pm Tue 5 Apr 11
UnionJackForever wrote:"ONLY" TWELVE AND THEY ARE PROUD OF THAT FACT ..
roverspal wrote:Bloodyhell, the resident clown has appeared!
madmurphy wrote: Muslims peacfull? Your having a giraffe. And you will find that the majority of EDL members do not eat curry, as a boycott of halal meat. You just asume that all young white males who like a beer or 3 are members of the EDL. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=137QG-6n5 z0&feature=relat edI KNOW MOST EDL MEMBERS ARE ILLITERATE DRUNKARDS AS PROVEN ON SATURDAY,BUT MURPHY GET A LIFE AND A LOOK ON REALITY.. WAS IT NOT YOUR SCUM IRISH WHO BOMBED AND KILLED OVER A THOUSAND INNOCENT BRITISH WOMEN AND CHILDREN, DURING A THIRTY THREE YEAR PERIOD?? WAS IT NOT THE IRA WHO NEARLY KILLED A PRIME MINISTER STOPPED TRAFFIC FOR A JOKE EVEN WHEN BOMBS WERE NOT THERE?? YOU THINK THE EDUCATED WILL SUPPORT YOU?? AS THE LEADERSHIP COMES FROM A WOMAN BEATING IRISH FAMILY WHO IS NOT ELECTED BUT MAKES MONEY SELLING TOPS AND FLAGS THAT COST 25P FOR OVER FIVE POUNDS GIVING YOU A FANTASY DIVISION..LOL.. THE EDUCATED WOULD NEVER WALK ALONGSIDE SUCH RACIST SCUM WHO HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT IN LIFE..BESIDES DRUGS AND ALCOHOL..WHO HAVE HARDLY AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY ARE SHOUTING FOR AND ARE LED UP THE GARDEN PATH BY SOME SCUM FASCIST IRISHMEN.. YOU AND THE SAD WOMEN WHO FOLLOW YOU ARE SO NAIVE AND VULGAR THEY WILL FOLLOW ANYTHING.. I USED TO THINK STUPIDITY HAD A LIMIT OBVIOUSLY I AM WRONG..
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Racistpal once again shows you the perils of interbreeding.
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Well done EDL for your peaceful demo. 12 arrests under the circumstances, wasnn't bad at all. Keep up the good work.
allahisaMyth
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8:45pm Tue 5 Apr 11
roverspal
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10:12pm Tue 5 Apr 11
allahisaMyth wrote:THE HONEST TRUTH IS WE DON'T DRINK!!
roverspal....you say one in four women get beat up in this country,i'd love to know what that figure is amongst the asian community.in this paper there are constantly stories of asian women being beaten by asian men and there just the ones that come forward.who knows how many black eyes and broken noses are under those veils they so willingly wear.i hate any sort of wifebeating but with the way your women are treated it seems you've got it down to a tee.
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happycyclist says...
11:20am Sat 2 Apr 11