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Blackburn protest will be one of Lancashire's biggest policing operations
5:40pm Tuesday 22nd March 2011 in Blackburn
THE English Defence League demonstration in Blackburn will be one of Lancashire’s biggest ever policing operations, according to the force.
A total of 4,500 demonstrators are now expected in the town on April 2.
Some 2,500 will be from the EDL, while 2,000 counter-protesters are expected.
Police said the EDL would demonstrate outside King George’s Hall from 12.45pm to 1.45pm on Northgate after being escorted ‘the shortest possible route’ from a meeting point along Mincing Lane.
The counter-demonstration will be in Sudell Cross.
It will involve groups such Unite Against Facism, Blackburn and Darwen Unite Against Racism, Muslim Defence League, Trades Council and National Union of Students.
Divisional commander Chief Supt Bob Eastwood said he would not be telling shoppers and other visitors not to come to Blackburn on the day of the march.
But he said: “The police will not tolerate damage to the town or acts of violence and I would urge anyone thinking of coming to Blackburn to attend either demonstration to bear this in mind.
“Our top priority is the safety of the community, people visiting Blackburn on the day, demonstrators and counter demonstrators.
“Our role is to facilitate peaceful protest. If anyone commits a criminal offence they will be dealt with fairly but firmly.
“The impact it is having currently on the Asian heritage community is varied in intensity.
"The EDL tell me they are not a racist organisation.
"However, some of their members do behave in a highly racist, intimidatory way.
"In some cases people do not want them to come to their town.
“We want to make sure that Blackburn remains open for business as usual and that there is no disruption to daily life, although obviously there will be a highly-visible police presence throughout the day.”
“We are facilitating peaceful protest, nothing more.
"We want to make sure that Blackburn stays open for business as far as possible.
A number of town centre roads are expected to be closed, but the details have not yet been confirmed.
Blackburn with Darwen Council’s director of policy and communications Tom Stannard said: “The bulk of the town centre, King William Street, outside town hall, the Mall, new extension and car park, Church Street will still be accessible.
“We are supporting the work the police are doing to make sure the day passes off peacefully and with minimum disruption for people. “
Comments(96)
jack daniels
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7:16pm Tue 22 Mar 11
Democracy has a price. Shame on the Unite Against Facism, Blackburn and Darwen Unite Against Racism, Muslim Defence League, Trades Council and National Union of Students for taking this away.
If people have concerns about the influx of islam, address these concerns, don’t stand on Sudell cross suppressing the freedom of speech.
If people have concerns about the influx of islam, address these concerns, don’t stand on Sudell cross suppressing the freedom of speech.
jack daniels
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7:22pm Tue 22 Mar 11
Can I also point out that my girlfriend went onto the EDL (Blackburn) facebook site and somebody had posted a 'thick Irishman' joke.
How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.
How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.
ewoodpark
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7:45pm Tue 22 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:i'm sorry if you were offended mate, but the ability to take the p*ss out of the english, irish welsh and the scotts is what makes us british...if we were to take the P*ss out of our asian friends then we would be a racist...i cant remember seeing the post in question but if it was in poor taste then i apologize..we need the public on our side..RE the report above..2500 edl members....i think 5000, if not more
Can I also point out that my girlfriend went onto the EDL (Blackburn) facebook site and somebody had posted a 'thick Irishman' joke. How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.
pocketdragon
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7:46pm Tue 22 Mar 11
About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.
tenerc
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8:07pm Tue 22 Mar 11
why let the 2 protest on the same day!
there will be trouble from both sides no matter what anybody says.
UAF is just as bad as EDL,
when the BNP went on question time, which group was it that stormed the BBC attacked the police and blocked off a main London road?
when these 2 met in Bolton, which group had 7 arrests BEFORE the protest even started
on a live tv news interview, a "spokesman" for the UAF was talking about they want to live in harmony, and nobody is better then the other, while in the background there was a banner being held up by some asians saying "Alla is the greatest"
in Manchester the UAF was trowing bottles and bricks at the EDL
yet they love to make out there peacefull.
if the EDL want to protest then why not show other groups how it`s done and make it a SILENT SIT DOWN PROTEST, what bad press will you get out of that?
there will be trouble from both sides no matter what anybody says.
UAF is just as bad as EDL,
when the BNP went on question time, which group was it that stormed the BBC attacked the police and blocked off a main London road?
when these 2 met in Bolton, which group had 7 arrests BEFORE the protest even started
on a live tv news interview, a "spokesman" for the UAF was talking about they want to live in harmony, and nobody is better then the other, while in the background there was a banner being held up by some asians saying "Alla is the greatest"
in Manchester the UAF was trowing bottles and bricks at the EDL
yet they love to make out there peacefull.
if the EDL want to protest then why not show other groups how it`s done and make it a SILENT SIT DOWN PROTEST, what bad press will you get out of that?
god Im bored
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8:33pm Tue 22 Mar 11
“We want to make sure that Blackburn remains open for business as usual and that there is no disruption to daily life,"
Well why have you instructed the town centre pubs to close then?
That will disrupt daily life, & licensees business takings!!
Will you be compensating them for loss of trade??....I thing not.
The pub trade is difficult enough these days without closing it down incase there is some trouble, If there is some trouble, deal with it, you are the POLICE for god sake!
Well why have you instructed the town centre pubs to close then?
That will disrupt daily life, & licensees business takings!!
Will you be compensating them for loss of trade??....I thing not.
The pub trade is difficult enough these days without closing it down incase there is some trouble, If there is some trouble, deal with it, you are the POLICE for god sake!
Cheese gnome
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8:41pm Tue 22 Mar 11
pocketdragon wrote:There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school.
About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.
Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read.
Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them.
Enough is enough.
ewoodpark
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8:56pm Tue 22 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:SWEET :-) .....(L) is that you?
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
MerlinTheVoiceofReason
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9:09pm Tue 22 Mar 11
UAF have just as much right to protest and make their views known as these EDL loonies.
Cheese gnome
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9:09pm Tue 22 Mar 11
ewoodpark wrote:Close, am sat at the side of (L) :o)
Cheese gnome wrote:SWEET :-) .....(L) is that you?
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
Cheese gnome
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9:12pm Tue 22 Mar 11
MerlinTheVoiceofReasCan i just ask one thing?
on wrote:
UAF have just as much right to protest and make their views known as these EDL loonies.
Have you researched what the EDL is about and have you researched exactly what the UAF is about?
jack daniels
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9:25pm Tue 22 Mar 11
ewoodpark wrote:But what is the point of the EDL trying to be taken seriously if some of their members consider tasteless jokes ridiculing other cultures as the norm. If moderators of the facebook site are ok with this kind of post, then it does nothing to the image of the group.
jack daniels wrote: Can I also point out that my girlfriend went onto the EDL (Blackburn) facebook site and somebody had posted a 'thick Irishman' joke. How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.i'm sorry if you were offended mate, but the ability to take the p*ss out of the english, irish welsh and the scotts is what makes us british...if we were to take the P*ss out of our asian friends then we would be a racist...i cant remember seeing the post in question but if it was in poor taste then i apologize..we need the public on our side..RE the report above..2500 edl members....i think 5000, if not more
I strongly believe that the identity of this country is being altered and there is nothing being done by the quisling MP’s and do gooders to address this. The BNP have lost the chance to make a valid point, partly by their history of denying the holocaust and with Nick Griffin has been shown up as a dribbling imbecile. If the EDL choose to go down the same route by posting derogatory and childish insults on the internet then they are going to fail. To succeed in making the EDL’s concerns credible the group needs to be seen as whiter than white (no pun intended). If they fail, if their opinion is tainted, then this town, this county and this country will be changed beyond our wildest dreams.
It’s not the joke that’s wrong ewood, it’s where it was put.
Can I point out that most people in Lancashire will have a bit of Irish in them so if you want the public on your side, you need to clean up your act. Failure is not an option!!!
jack daniels
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9:27pm Tue 22 Mar 11
MerlinTheVoiceofReasbut why at the same time?
on wrote:
UAF have just as much right to protest and make their views known as these EDL loonies.
bobtherob
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9:49pm Tue 22 Mar 11
It really does say something when the leader of the council and chief executive hide behind a council spin doctor for comment on this march. Why is the leader too scared to comment? Why despite his six figure salary does the chief executive remain silent? What on earth has this to do with a PR man? My wife owns one of the businesses on Northgate, this will result in a loss of a days earnings which at the moment will feel like a kick in the teeth. I would like to know from the leader, not her spin doctor, why this march couldn't have taken place at Corporation Park?
ChiRho
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9:57pm Tue 22 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:I have to say this is a valid point - why at the same time? There is a right for everyone to demonstrate but counter demonstrations inevitably end in violence on both sides.
MerlinTheVoiceofReasbut why at the same time?
on wrote:
UAF have just as much right to protest and make their views known as these EDL loonies.
.
Do the police or council not have the right to defer one demonstration to a later date or is that too easy - are the police and the council they looking for trouble ?
.
It would be good to know if this is something they can't dictate otherwise they are complicit in any violence that occurs.
useyourhead
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10:40pm Tue 22 Mar 11
sounds good initially, but from a logistical point you would not be able to be 100% sure all the counter-demonstrator
s would stay away, so would still have to earmark the same amount of police cover etc, shut pubs and disrupt local business and traffic, only difference is you would have to do it twice.
s would stay away, so would still have to earmark the same amount of police cover etc, shut pubs and disrupt local business and traffic, only difference is you would have to do it twice.
lisakhan
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6:44am Wed 23 Mar 11
Good call wrote:your going to the EDL march because of the minority of the muslim extremist that our muslim brothers and sisters do not agree with, and as for the halal meat situation you have probably been eating it for years after a saturday night out. and as for the pimping of white girls what a load of ****, is it ok for white men to be pimping girls? its been happening on king street for years but thats the norm, and muslim pedos I think if you look in to your accusations you will find that the majority of pedo's are white. And before you ask I am not muslim extremist and my skin colour is white. And I think if these idiots had proper day jobs they would have the time to create problems and people like yourself that say they arent racist really are and your just jumping on the band wagon because you havent got the balls to stand up for yourself,
I'm going to the EDL protest because i've had enough of Muslim extremists being appeased and the Wider Islamic community dictating to the non Muslim majority and also the islamification of England.I'm not a racist, just a Patriot who's had enough of waiting for the Government to do somthing about the disease Of Islamification and Islamic extremism.There'll be 2000-4000 EDL and about 200-250 UAF/MDL Unwashed scum.To all those people on here who've been moaning (quite rightly) about the Council/Government pandering to the Islamic community,Halal meat being served in restraunts,Mosque Building,illegal mosque domes being allowed to stay,Muslim/Asian on White attacks being brushed under the carpet,Asian/Muslim pedo Gangs raping and pimping White youth and Islamic fanatics, here's your chance to stand up and actualy do somthing instead of Saying "The Mainstream Politicans should do something" or "I'm not racist but something should be done.2nd of April BE THERE.NO SURRENDER P.S I won't be debating with anybody who calls me :Racist,Nazi,Far-rig ht,Xenophobic,Little Englander,Extreme right winger etc .
racistcatcher
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6:51am Wed 23 Mar 11
lisakhan wrote:WELL SAID LISAKHAN. WISH I COULD MARRY YOU (JUST JOKIN).
Good call wrote: I'm going to the EDL protest because i've had enough of Muslim extremists being appeased and the Wider Islamic community dictating to the non Muslim majority and also the islamification of England.I'm not a racist, just a Patriot who's had enough of waiting for the Government to do somthing about the disease Of Islamification and Islamic extremism.There'll be 2000-4000 EDL and about 200-250 UAF/MDL Unwashed scum.To all those people on here who've been moaning (quite rightly) about the Council/Government pandering to the Islamic community,Halal meat being served in restraunts,Mosque Building,illegal mosque domes being allowed to stay,Muslim/Asian on White attacks being brushed under the carpet,Asian/Muslim pedo Gangs raping and pimping White youth and Islamic fanatics, here's your chance to stand up and actualy do somthing instead of Saying "The Mainstream Politicans should do something" or "I'm not racist but something should be done.2nd of April BE THERE.NO SURRENDER P.S I won't be debating with anybody who calls me :Racist,Nazi,Far-rig ht,Xenophobic,Little Englander,Extreme right winger etc .your going to the EDL march because of the minority of the muslim extremist that our muslim brothers and sisters do not agree with, and as for the halal meat situation you have probably been eating it for years after a saturday night out. and as for the pimping of white girls what a load of ****, is it ok for white men to be pimping girls? its been happening on king street for years but thats the norm, and muslim pedos I think if you look in to your accusations you will find that the majority of pedo's are white. And before you ask I am not muslim extremist and my skin colour is white. And I think if these idiots had proper day jobs they would have the time to create problems and people like yourself that say they arent racist really are and your just jumping on the band wagon because you havent got the balls to stand up for yourself,
Blackburn EDL Admin
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10:28am Wed 23 Mar 11
2500 EDL?? Are you having a laugh?
theworkerz
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10:31am Wed 23 Mar 11
They're all going to be rentamobs. The real people they're hurting in all this are the taxpayers who will have to shell out for all that extra policing. But then again, how many of those sort of people will be paying tax?
lisakhan
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10:37am Wed 23 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:What a load of crap, the only schools that dont celebrate christmas are the islamic schools you pratt, we celebrate Eid and if we are lucky get a maximum of two days off and because we dont get intoxicated and get dressed up that bothers you? you celebrate christmas for the reason of getting p**ed and throwing a party... were in the bible does it say that. oyur supposed to be celbrating the birth of jesus(pbuh), with getting drunk handing out presents and eating turkey?!?! so yourself you would be a practising christian? And if you morons would open your eyes you would see what is in front of you..... can you tell me were jesus mary and joesph originate from the middle east so If I am correct there skin colour would have been ermmm brown and it looks to me that mary is wearing a head scarf and joesph let me see a jubbah or shalwar. Therefore before you idiots open your mouths maybe you should look into your own culture.
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
Blackburn EDL Admin
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10:39am Wed 23 Mar 11
What do you mean by "those sort of people"?
nice person
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10:40am Wed 23 Mar 11
theworkerz wrote:I pay a phenomenal amount of tax thank u-I am all for this protest by the EDL.
They're all going to be rentamobs. The real people they're hurting in all this are the taxpayers who will have to shell out for all that extra policing. But then again, how many of those sort of people will be paying tax?
Gone are the myths of out of work supporters,rent a gobs (not my words) in come the British People with a legitamite reason to stand and protest.Enjoy your freedom of speech as it is because of people like this that we will be keeping it.
lisakhan
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10:42am Wed 23 Mar 11
racistcatcher wrote:Thankyou racistcatcher.
lisakhan wrote:WELL SAID LISAKHAN. WISH I COULD MARRY YOU (JUST JOKIN).Good call wrote: I'm going to the EDL protest because i've had enough of Muslim extremists being appeased and the Wider Islamic community dictating to the non Muslim majority and also the islamification of England.I'm not a racist, just a Patriot who's had enough of waiting for the Government to do somthing about the disease Of Islamification and Islamic extremism.There'll be 2000-4000 EDL and about 200-250 UAF/MDL Unwashed scum.To all those people on here who've been moaning (quite rightly) about the Council/Government pandering to the Islamic community,Halal meat being served in restraunts,Mosque Building,illegal mosque domes being allowed to stay,Muslim/Asian on White attacks being brushed under the carpet,Asian/Muslim pedo Gangs raping and pimping White youth and Islamic fanatics, here's your chance to stand up and actualy do somthing instead of Saying "The Mainstream Politicans should do something" or "I'm not racist but something should be done.2nd of April BE THERE.NO SURRENDER P.S I won't be debating with anybody who calls me :Racist,Nazi,Far-rig ht,Xenophobic,Little Englander,Extreme right winger etc .your going to the EDL march because of the minority of the muslim extremist that our muslim brothers and sisters do not agree with, and as for the halal meat situation you have probably been eating it for years after a saturday night out. and as for the pimping of white girls what a load of ****, is it ok for white men to be pimping girls? its been happening on king street for years but thats the norm, and muslim pedos I think if you look in to your accusations you will find that the majority of pedo's are white. And before you ask I am not muslim extremist and my skin colour is white. And I think if these idiots had proper day jobs they would have the time to create problems and people like yourself that say they arent racist really are and your just jumping on the band wagon because you havent got the balls to stand up for yourself,
excaliber
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10:42am Wed 23 Mar 11
Blackburn EDL Admin wrote:What, are you saying that there are going to be more or less than 2500?
2500 EDL?? Are you having a laugh?
Blackburn EDL Admin
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10:49am Wed 23 Mar 11
excaliber wrote:More. More than double that amount. You not seen my fan club?
Blackburn EDL Admin wrote:What, are you saying that there are going to be more or less than 2500?
2500 EDL?? Are you having a laugh?
Cheese gnome
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10:51am Wed 23 Mar 11
lisakhan wrote:Greenfield primary school, hyde does not celebrate Christmas. The pretty christmas lights that light the town centre are now "holiday" or "festive" lights.
Cheese gnome wrote:What a load of crap, the only schools that dont celebrate christmas are the islamic schools you pratt, we celebrate Eid and if we are lucky get a maximum of two days off and because we dont get intoxicated and get dressed up that bothers you? you celebrate christmas for the reason of getting p**ed and throwing a party... were in the bible does it say that. oyur supposed to be celbrating the birth of jesus(pbuh), with getting drunk handing out presents and eating turkey?!?! so yourself you would be a practising christian? And if you morons would open your eyes you would see what is in front of you..... can you tell me were jesus mary and joesph originate from the middle east so If I am correct there skin colour would have been ermmm brown and it looks to me that mary is wearing a head scarf and joesph let me see a jubbah or shalwar. Therefore before you idiots open your mouths maybe you should look into your own culture.
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
If children are allowed a few days off for EID is it not fair that ALL children get a few days off and not just a select few?
Now where in my post did i say the fact that you dont get dunk and dont get dressed up bothers me? The fact that we allow you to celebrate your festivals and your days while you complain about our days is what bothers me. Personally Christmas to me means giving my children a fantastic magical time. New year is my time to go out and get drunk, if you dont like the fact that in this country we are allowed to drink alcohol, well erm tough.
I am not a christian, never claimed to be, i believe in real things. Also i really dont care what colour Mary and Joseph were, i care about equal rights for all, the right to have choice in my food, freedom of speech and keeping that barbaric shariah law out of Britain.
Now how about you stop being racist, stop with the name calling and accept the demo will happen.
theworkerz
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10:59am Wed 23 Mar 11
Dear EDL Admin. By those sort of people I mean the stupid buggers who turn out at the drop of a hat to make a big fuss which will get them nowhere and inconvenience a helluva lot more people. Not forgetting the number of idiots who are attracted to trouble and are there merely for a fight.
nice person
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11:07am Wed 23 Mar 11
theworkerz wrote:I get what you say,the face of EDL is changing and if you look at the comments from the so called opposition who now oppose any demonstrations not in their favour-It speaks for itself really..
Dear EDL Admin. By those sort of people I mean the stupid buggers who turn out at the drop of a hat to make a big fuss which will get them nowhere and inconvenience a helluva lot more people. Not forgetting the number of idiots who are attracted to trouble and are there merely for a fight.
Someone has to make a stand for this country,or there will be no country as such...They can oppose all they want,the times they are a changing :)
lisakhan
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11:14am Wed 23 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:the demo will happen and sweetheart I am far from racist,both my parents are white, I went to a church of england primary school and a catholic high school. there is nothing wrong with freedom of speech. But it is the way that some people have theres throwing the race card in, and making it a protest on whites hating muslims, It is all swings and roundabouts, as for the christmas holiday we should all have equal rights and equal time of regardless of what we are celebrate, we live in a multicultural england and all religions and views should be respected,
lisakhan wrote:Greenfield primary school, hyde does not celebrate Christmas. The pretty christmas lights that light the town centre are now "holiday" or "festive" lights. If children are allowed a few days off for EID is it not fair that ALL children get a few days off and not just a select few? Now where in my post did i say the fact that you dont get dunk and dont get dressed up bothers me? The fact that we allow you to celebrate your festivals and your days while you complain about our days is what bothers me. Personally Christmas to me means giving my children a fantastic magical time. New year is my time to go out and get drunk, if you dont like the fact that in this country we are allowed to drink alcohol, well erm tough. I am not a christian, never claimed to be, i believe in real things. Also i really dont care what colour Mary and Joseph were, i care about equal rights for all, the right to have choice in my food, freedom of speech and keeping that barbaric shariah law out of Britain. Now how about you stop being racist, stop with the name calling and accept the demo will happen.Cheese gnome wrote:What a load of crap, the only schools that dont celebrate christmas are the islamic schools you pratt, we celebrate Eid and if we are lucky get a maximum of two days off and because we dont get intoxicated and get dressed up that bothers you? you celebrate christmas for the reason of getting p**ed and throwing a party... were in the bible does it say that. oyur supposed to be celbrating the birth of jesus(pbuh), with getting drunk handing out presents and eating turkey?!?! so yourself you would be a practising christian? And if you morons would open your eyes you would see what is in front of you..... can you tell me were jesus mary and joesph originate from the middle east so If I am correct there skin colour would have been ermmm brown and it looks to me that mary is wearing a head scarf and joesph let me see a jubbah or shalwar. Therefore before you idiots open your mouths maybe you should look into your own culture.pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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11:29am Wed 23 Mar 11
UAF are mobilising only from NW England.
UAF will mostly attract Trade Unions, religious groups, community associations, students, mainstream and left of centre groups.
UAF are largely peaceful and disciplined. UAF will demonstrate in direct opposition to send a clear message to the racist EDL/BNP that sowing division in our communities, and on our streets, will not be tolerated.
The EDL/BNP are mobilising from all over Britain.
EDL/BNP will bring hooligans, drunken teenagers, racists and neo-nazis. The very people who are against democracy.
EDL/BNP will come to our town to cause division, to preach a message of hate, at a time when we need unity. A minority of them will be solely looking for extreme violence, they are the real bully-boys. Every bully has their hangers-on, the main body of the EDL/BNP are made up of these. Hangers-on, out to get drunk and soak up the day. This EDL/BNP rump, are the ones who have no spine and only fight in gangs. You get them everywhere. Ironically, they are flip-side of militant Islam.
Their politics, drunkenness and violence aside. These are my people, from the same streets and estates. I just wish they would aim their empty beer cans at the right people and not at our neighbours!
UAF will mostly attract Trade Unions, religious groups, community associations, students, mainstream and left of centre groups.
UAF are largely peaceful and disciplined. UAF will demonstrate in direct opposition to send a clear message to the racist EDL/BNP that sowing division in our communities, and on our streets, will not be tolerated.
The EDL/BNP are mobilising from all over Britain.
EDL/BNP will bring hooligans, drunken teenagers, racists and neo-nazis. The very people who are against democracy.
EDL/BNP will come to our town to cause division, to preach a message of hate, at a time when we need unity. A minority of them will be solely looking for extreme violence, they are the real bully-boys. Every bully has their hangers-on, the main body of the EDL/BNP are made up of these. Hangers-on, out to get drunk and soak up the day. This EDL/BNP rump, are the ones who have no spine and only fight in gangs. You get them everywhere. Ironically, they are flip-side of militant Islam.
Their politics, drunkenness and violence aside. These are my people, from the same streets and estates. I just wish they would aim their empty beer cans at the right people and not at our neighbours!
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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11:40am Wed 23 Mar 11
Blackburn EDL Admin wrote:That's 'your' fan club. Such a big fish. Bullies are always weak on the inside.
excaliber wrote:More. More than double that amount. You not seen my fan club?
Blackburn EDL Admin wrote:What, are you saying that there are going to be more or less than 2500?
2500 EDL?? Are you having a laugh?
Hornbys
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11:44am Wed 23 Mar 11
“We want to make sure that Blackburn remains open for business as usual and that there is no disruption to daily life, although obviously there will be a highly-visible police presence throughout the day.”
Haha, why are you telling shopkeepers around the area that you would recommend shutting then????????
Haha, why are you telling shopkeepers around the area that you would recommend shutting then????????
thoroughbred
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11:51am Wed 23 Mar 11
EDL Yes! Violence and Ignorance No!
Show the people of this country you can protest with resorting to childish/racist chants.
Show the people of this country you can protest with resorting to childish/racist chants.
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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11:58am Wed 23 Mar 11
I'm just worried about who'll clean up after the EDL/BNP.
When the drunken bullies have finished stirring trouble in our communities.
When they've finished fighting among themselves.
When they've finished littering our town.
When they've finished smashing our windows.
When they finished shoplifting, and running amok in our shopping centre.
When they finished attacking the police.
When they've finished urinating on our streets.
Who'll pick-up the pieces?
When the drunken bullies have finished stirring trouble in our communities.
When they've finished fighting among themselves.
When they've finished littering our town.
When they've finished smashing our windows.
When they finished shoplifting, and running amok in our shopping centre.
When they finished attacking the police.
When they've finished urinating on our streets.
Who'll pick-up the pieces?
lisakhan
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12:14pm Wed 23 Mar 11
Islam accepts other peoples religions were does it state that it doesnt other people may not accept other religions but nowhere does it say that... stop talking from that hole in your bottom!!!!
jack daniels
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12:16pm Wed 23 Mar 11
Nice to see all the muslim sympathising racists and quislings complaining about people being allowed to protest and let their feelings be known. The recent issues around the muslim dome in Intack and the 1000 signature’s that where submitted then ignored, as well as the change of use for the Dog Inn, clearly demonstrates how the voices of the good people of this town will not be heard. These self serving councillors have contributed to the ‘them and us’ society that exists in Blackburn.
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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12:24pm Wed 23 Mar 11
god Im bored wrote:EDL/BNP + alcohol = violence.
“We want to make sure that Blackburn remains open for business as usual and that there is no disruption to daily life,"
Well why have you instructed the town centre pubs to close then?
That will disrupt daily life, & licensees business takings!!
Will you be compensating them for loss of trade??....I thing not.
The pub trade is difficult enough these days without closing it down incase there is some trouble, If there is some trouble, deal with it, you are the POLICE for god sake!
Doesn't matter if they shut the pubs, the EDL will be drunk before they arrive.
When EDL/BNP had a demo in Bolton a while back, the WHOLE shopping centre closed down.
Bolton was deserted, which is what will happen in Blackburn, unfortunately.
Why didn't they call the demo on Sunday? Nobody would have seen them then, either.
Probably all at church, or more likely led in their own vomit after the Saturday night drinking and halal kebab.
jack daniels
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12:32pm Wed 23 Mar 11
ENGLISH SKINHEAD wrote:Wonderful piece of stereotyping there Mr Skinhead. It suggests that their concerns are not valid. Wouldn’t it be great if there was a vote across the country, simply asking about repatriation - YES or NO.
god Im bored wrote: “We want to make sure that Blackburn remains open for business as usual and that there is no disruption to daily life," Well why have you instructed the town centre pubs to close then? That will disrupt daily life, & licensees business takings!! Will you be compensating them for loss of trade??....I thing not. The pub trade is difficult enough these days without closing it down incase there is some trouble, If there is some trouble, deal with it, you are the POLICE for god sake!EDL/BNP + alcohol = violence. Doesn't matter if they shut the pubs, the EDL will be drunk before they arrive. When EDL/BNP had a demo in Bolton a while back, the WHOLE shopping centre closed down. Bolton was deserted, which is what will happen in Blackburn, unfortunately. Why didn't they call the demo on Sunday? Nobody would have seen them then, either. Probably all at church, or more likely led in their own vomit after the Saturday night drinking and halal kebab.
It would settle it once and for all. There are not just your so-called drunks and thugs that hate the situation. Lets hope your voluntary or imposed Islamic belief sits comfortably with you in the years to come.
lisakhan
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12:32pm Wed 23 Mar 11
jack daniels.... it is the relgions that are filled with hatred its the people that misinterperate things and take things to extreme measures, what I am trying to say is that there is an argument for every single side and you get a few uneducated morons that just find a reason to fight and hurt people. It might need addressing but is this the way to do it...
makaveli96
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1:32pm Wed 23 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:I recently put in a request at my childrens Catholic school for 2 weeks absence in October (me and my partner are getting married in Mexico). It was turned down.
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
I was told if I was going on a Haj though (for 6 weeks) it would be authorised as this is classed as cultural learning.
Im not racist, but my head is hurting at the way things are!
abdullah
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1:35pm Wed 23 Mar 11
Lisakhan and english skinhead youre both the true champions of freedom of speech,you represent what is good about this great nation.The zombies who are blindly following the scam that is the EDL are fools being led by fascists who are the hate filled,divisive,corr
osive element thats caused nothing but trouble wherever they have been on their thuggy tour.The leadership of this group are milking it with the media exposure and the financial benefits of their merchandising.All at the expense of perceived threats from muslims.Muslims today,hindus tomorrow,sikhs next,gays thereafter,hatred has no limits.So dont be fooled by these chavs.
osive element thats caused nothing but trouble wherever they have been on their thuggy tour.The leadership of this group are milking it with the media exposure and the financial benefits of their merchandising.All at the expense of perceived threats from muslims.Muslims today,hindus tomorrow,sikhs next,gays thereafter,hatred has no limits.So dont be fooled by these chavs.
Cheese gnome
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2:09pm Wed 23 Mar 11
makaveli96 wrote:Disgusting!
Cheese gnome wrote:I recently put in a request at my childrens Catholic school for 2 weeks absence in October (me and my partner are getting married in Mexico). It was turned down.
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
I was told if I was going on a Haj though (for 6 weeks) it would be authorised as this is classed as cultural learning.
Im not racist, but my head is hurting at the way things are!
A friend of mine has recently been told her children will not be granted the holiday request and she could be fined for taking her children out of school for 1 week.
Seems to me equal rights has now gone out of the window. Religion is being used in a lot of cases to bypass the laws and customs of this country.
The more the government refuses to listen the more people will be forced to make a stand. Change needs to come sooner rather than later.
Cheese gnome
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2:11pm Wed 23 Mar 11
abdullah wrote:So let me get this right, your all for freedom of speech, except when British nationals decide to exercise their freedom of speech?
Lisakhan and english skinhead youre both the true champions of freedom of speech,you represent what is good about this great nation.The zombies who are blindly following the scam that is the EDL are fools being led by fascists who are the hate filled,divisive,corr
osive element thats caused nothing but trouble wherever they have been on their thuggy tour.The leadership of this group are milking it with the media exposure and the financial benefits of their merchandising.All at the expense of perceived threats from muslims.Muslims today,hindus tomorrow,sikhs next,gays thereafter,hatred has no limits.So dont be fooled by these chavs.
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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2:28pm Wed 23 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:Sorry cheesey. I don't think you've seen me post that the EDL/BNP demo should be banned.
abdullah wrote:So let me get this right, your all for freedom of speech, except when British nationals decide to exercise their freedom of speech?
Lisakhan and english skinhead youre both the true champions of freedom of speech,you represent what is good about this great nation.The zombies who are blindly following the scam that is the EDL are fools being led by fascists who are the hate filled,divisive,corr
osive element thats caused nothing but trouble wherever they have been on their thuggy tour.The leadership of this group are milking it with the media exposure and the financial benefits of their merchandising.All at the expense of perceived threats from muslims.Muslims today,hindus tomorrow,sikhs next,gays thereafter,hatred has no limits.So dont be fooled by these chavs.
I just hope drunk and disorderly conduct should be addressed.
That is speaking as a British national, of course. It's the fascists who are fundaMENTALly opposed to democracy and freedom of speech. When Hitler, Mussolini and Franco came to power they outlawed dozens and dozens of political parties. Anyone who opposed them.
Just like 'Islamic fundaMENTALists' the far-right fascists do not believe in democracy.
I don't say ban them, just oppose and expose them!
lancs1985
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2:44pm Wed 23 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:Omg you are an absorlute fool, its a joke you pillock, do irish scotish welsh not tell jokes about english folk!!!
Can I also point out that my girlfriend went onto the EDL (Blackburn) facebook site and somebody had posted a 'thick Irishman' joke. How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.
No wonder the country is like it is with stupid pillocks like you, Get a grip of ya self you numpty!!!!!
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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2:49pm Wed 23 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:I know there are tons of difficulties when it comes to religion.
makaveli96 wrote:Disgusting!
Cheese gnome wrote:I recently put in a request at my childrens Catholic school for 2 weeks absence in October (me and my partner are getting married in Mexico). It was turned down.
pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
I was told if I was going on a Haj though (for 6 weeks) it would be authorised as this is classed as cultural learning.
Im not racist, but my head is hurting at the way things are!
A friend of mine has recently been told her children will not be granted the holiday request and she could be fined for taking her children out of school for 1 week.
Seems to me equal rights has now gone out of the window. Religion is being used in a lot of cases to bypass the laws and customs of this country.
The more the government refuses to listen the more people will be forced to make a stand. Change needs to come sooner rather than later.
I would basically argue for taking the religion out of school altogether. You know just keeping school for education. Teach don't preach.
My partner is religious, and all my kids christened. It is just a cultural badge more often than not.
People often have no real belief, or understanding, in Christianity. It's just what our forefathers took on after we were all converted from paganism. Islam and the rest are the same. Indoctrination from an early age. Blind obedience. Unquestioning faith.
Religious schools and churches bend over backwards to assert their 'rights of religion', they realise that it is in their own interests to support other religions publicly. While telling their own adherents that theirs' is the only true way.
Presumably, Islamic schools would honour Christian holidays and cultural trips to Lourdes or Rome.
Fairness is what it should be about!
And personally, I would say that a wedding in Mexico deserves the same cultural definition as Mecca, Rome or Stonehenge.
lancs1985
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2:57pm Wed 23 Mar 11
iv read most of the comments on here and i tell you something, there some right empty heads what think edl is racist and a bad organiseation, can i ask
HAVE YOU EVER READ ABOUT THE EDL ON THERE WEBSITE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR????
before ya go round calling them for being racist which is an utter load of poo to be onist
Why is it that sabden county primarey school has had to put HALAL meat in school dinners for one pupil so all the other children have to eat that rubbish, there is 120 pupils there if not more and they have no option cause of 1 pupil why cant the family of this one child do dinner for her, its an utter discrase!!!
Christmas cant be called christmas, lights and decorations down
St georges day isnt a day we can celabrate because it might offend,
The list is absorluteley endless
We are punished for being white british its an absorlte joke this place, and people dont like to hear the truef the simple facts are the asians and other folk should respect the british way of life and obay by the laws not by there own in there countrys, your in this country so respect it if not get back under the wagons boats what ever way they got here and go back, cause were sick to the back teeth of it all and its time to make stand it should of been done 5 year ago this!!!
Your the scum what wont support the british way of life,
british go to oz and spain and have to respect there way of life so why is it different here????
And all the do gooders can do one to cause im dam sick of um!!!!
HAVE YOU EVER READ ABOUT THE EDL ON THERE WEBSITE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR????
before ya go round calling them for being racist which is an utter load of poo to be onist
Why is it that sabden county primarey school has had to put HALAL meat in school dinners for one pupil so all the other children have to eat that rubbish, there is 120 pupils there if not more and they have no option cause of 1 pupil why cant the family of this one child do dinner for her, its an utter discrase!!!
Christmas cant be called christmas, lights and decorations down
St georges day isnt a day we can celabrate because it might offend,
The list is absorluteley endless
We are punished for being white british its an absorlte joke this place, and people dont like to hear the truef the simple facts are the asians and other folk should respect the british way of life and obay by the laws not by there own in there countrys, your in this country so respect it if not get back under the wagons boats what ever way they got here and go back, cause were sick to the back teeth of it all and its time to make stand it should of been done 5 year ago this!!!
Your the scum what wont support the british way of life,
british go to oz and spain and have to respect there way of life so why is it different here????
And all the do gooders can do one to cause im dam sick of um!!!!
l m h jones
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3:17pm Wed 23 Mar 11
lancs1985 wrote:my kids celebrate nativity along with kids from other faiths..our multi ethnic neighbourhood displays have st georges flags and some of us are secure enough in our sense of being british that we dont need to dress up in red white and blue
iv read most of the comments on here and i tell you something, there some right empty heads what think edl is racist and a bad organiseation, can i ask
HAVE YOU EVER READ ABOUT THE EDL ON THERE WEBSITE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR????
before ya go round calling them for being racist which is an utter load of poo to be onist
Why is it that sabden county primarey school has had to put HALAL meat in school dinners for one pupil so all the other children have to eat that rubbish, there is 120 pupils there if not more and they have no option cause of 1 pupil why cant the family of this one child do dinner for her, its an utter discrase!!!
Christmas cant be called christmas, lights and decorations down
St georges day isnt a day we can celabrate because it might offend,
The list is absorluteley endless
We are punished for being white british its an absorlte joke this place, and people dont like to hear the truef the simple facts are the asians and other folk should respect the british way of life and obay by the laws not by there own in there countrys, your in this country so respect it if not get back under the wagons boats what ever way they got here and go back, cause were sick to the back teeth of it all and its time to make stand it should of been done 5 year ago this!!!
Your the scum what wont support the british way of life,
british go to oz and spain and have to respect there way of life so why is it different here????
And all the do gooders can do one to cause im dam sick of um!!!!
ENGLISH SKINHEAD
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3:28pm Wed 23 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:Jack, I agree with most of the points you make.
@lisakhan. I think the recent murders and arrests of Christian Pakistani’s, along with sympathetic lawyers and politicians springs to mind. We can also include Iraq (post Saddam Hussain) and Iran. It is also an offence to convert to Christianity in Indonesia. Hope this helps.
Where does all this “kill the infidel” stuff come from? The anti Jewish drivel makes me laugh because many of the prophets in the old testament are the same as the Koran. A religion filled with hatred maybe???
Either way, incompatibility between UK culture and Islamic culture is an issue which needs addressing.
Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions. They all view the Old Testament as part of their own religion.
And incidentally , they are all in their 'death throes' which is why it plays into the hands of extremists to be SO opposed to mainstream religion.
There are plenty of cultural differences within Islamic culture itself. Young British Muslims who are in conflict with their parents/grandparents beliefs. The more people push against all Muslims, the more the religion will say "told you so".
ps Not too much of a sterotype of the EDL/BNP. You're right, we should discuss difficult arguments.
Their demo is intimidation.
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3:45pm Wed 23 Mar 11
i have to disagree with alot of the EDL supporters on the fact the they say its a 'peaceful' demo. i have just been on google(not EDL sites or islamic sites but GOOGLE, which is neutral...as i understand) i didnt read anything but just looked at the images, and NOT one out of so many hundreds of thousands is PEACEFUL or looks PEACEFUL.
well i hope its a so called 'peaceful' demo in blackburn.
well i hope its a so called 'peaceful' demo in blackburn.
UniteAsOne
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4:32pm Wed 23 Mar 11
I,m still confused as to who or what the EDL are defending ?
They arent defending me or the majority of the population,so maybe a member could enlighten me ?
I do recall that they say they are against Islamic extremism - if thats the case,show me where its is in Blackburn - if it is that prevalent htne I would expect it to be plastered all over the front pages of the local papers.
Im still struggling to make the link between Islamic extremism and KFC - can anyone from the EDL explain the core link they have so vociferously been campaigning against on Haslingden Road for the last month - I,ve really tried to see the link but my grey matter mustnt be working properly.
They arent defending me or the majority of the population,so maybe a member could enlighten me ?
I do recall that they say they are against Islamic extremism - if thats the case,show me where its is in Blackburn - if it is that prevalent htne I would expect it to be plastered all over the front pages of the local papers.
Im still struggling to make the link between Islamic extremism and KFC - can anyone from the EDL explain the core link they have so vociferously been campaigning against on Haslingden Road for the last month - I,ve really tried to see the link but my grey matter mustnt be working properly.
lisakhan
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4:34pm Wed 23 Mar 11
l m h jones wrote:Lancs1985, scum what wont support the british way of life have you heard yourself... and this is the reason why EDL and BNP are around. What do you want them to support the BRITISH jutice system what a joke! and I wonder what you binge on after a night out on the lash? you have all probably been eating halal takeaways for years and not even realized it yourself, and sweetheart it was your british ancestors that brought these people here in the first place... because your lazy white arses are too up your own to do the work. they have more than earnt the right to be here ad the majority of people that you are talking about are probably british born.
lancs1985 wrote: iv read most of the comments on here and i tell you something, there some right empty heads what think edl is racist and a bad organiseation, can i ask HAVE YOU EVER READ ABOUT THE EDL ON THERE WEBSITE AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR???? before ya go round calling them for being racist which is an utter load of poo to be onist Why is it that sabden county primarey school has had to put HALAL meat in school dinners for one pupil so all the other children have to eat that rubbish, there is 120 pupils there if not more and they have no option cause of 1 pupil why cant the family of this one child do dinner for her, its an utter discrase!!! Christmas cant be called christmas, lights and decorations down St georges day isnt a day we can celabrate because it might offend, The list is absorluteley endless We are punished for being white british its an absorlte joke this place, and people dont like to hear the truef the simple facts are the asians and other folk should respect the british way of life and obay by the laws not by there own in there countrys, your in this country so respect it if not get back under the wagons boats what ever way they got here and go back, cause were sick to the back teeth of it all and its time to make stand it should of been done 5 year ago this!!! Your the scum what wont support the british way of life, british go to oz and spain and have to respect there way of life so why is it different here???? And all the do gooders can do one to cause im dam sick of um!!!!my kids celebrate nativity along with kids from other faiths..our multi ethnic neighbourhood displays have st georges flags and some of us are secure enough in our sense of being british that we dont need to dress up in red white and blue
cheeseandbaconturnov
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5:01pm Wed 23 Mar 11
A little disheartened by people churning out the same
"oh we can't call christmas christmas anymore",
"we can't celebrate st. georges day anymore",
"we can't eat chicken that's killed the way it used to be killed anymore".
This is all bile spewed by rightwing papers such as the Mail and the Sun to sell units. I am not aware of this actually happening in real life and saw many christmas lights at christmas, st. george's flags for st. george's day and as far as chicken goes, do the majority of people really care about how their food is killed?
If so, i am sure they would be
vegetarians which does not appear to be the case.
I would have more respect (if that's the right word) if the EDL and it's supporters actually told the truth and admitted they were just racists (having a token sikh member doesn't make you an inclusive society).
Many of the members have been shown to have links with football hooligan groups, and all these protests serve for is an opportunity for a group of lads to get together, have a drink, a line or two, shout their mouths off and maybe have a bit of a fight.
I am not too concerned because they are not a political organisation, merely a protest group and will go the way of C18 and NF before them.
Also, had to laugh when reading an interview with Stephen Lennon, or whatever name he chooses to take, where he was decrying the "evil islamic scourge of heroin poisoning the nations youth", yet when quizzed about the EDLs use of cocaine and alcohol on protests only claimed "that's different".
Good job that peoples lives haven't been ruined by alcohol or cocaine.
Enjoy your day out!
"oh we can't call christmas christmas anymore",
"we can't celebrate st. georges day anymore",
"we can't eat chicken that's killed the way it used to be killed anymore".
This is all bile spewed by rightwing papers such as the Mail and the Sun to sell units. I am not aware of this actually happening in real life and saw many christmas lights at christmas, st. george's flags for st. george's day and as far as chicken goes, do the majority of people really care about how their food is killed?
If so, i am sure they would be
vegetarians which does not appear to be the case.
I would have more respect (if that's the right word) if the EDL and it's supporters actually told the truth and admitted they were just racists (having a token sikh member doesn't make you an inclusive society).
Many of the members have been shown to have links with football hooligan groups, and all these protests serve for is an opportunity for a group of lads to get together, have a drink, a line or two, shout their mouths off and maybe have a bit of a fight.
I am not too concerned because they are not a political organisation, merely a protest group and will go the way of C18 and NF before them.
Also, had to laugh when reading an interview with Stephen Lennon, or whatever name he chooses to take, where he was decrying the "evil islamic scourge of heroin poisoning the nations youth", yet when quizzed about the EDLs use of cocaine and alcohol on protests only claimed "that's different".
Good job that peoples lives haven't been ruined by alcohol or cocaine.
Enjoy your day out!
lisakhan
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5:05pm Wed 23 Mar 11
couldnt have put it better myself! here here!!
Smithy66
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5:22pm Wed 23 Mar 11
It will be quite worrying if 2,500 people like this are are turning up!!
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nice person
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5:46pm Wed 23 Mar 11
lisakhan wrote:Look into it then and see what is happening around you.
nice person wrote:My culture is the same as yours?!?
lisakhan wrote:What of the teacher in London who was attacked by four asians because he taught a different religion to their sisters . And you talk about racism!!!!!. His name GARY SMITH the head of religious education at central foundations girls school. . The perpetrators, Akmol Hussein, 26, Sheikh Rashid, 27, Azad Hussain, 25, and Simon Alam, 19 used a Stanley knife, an iron rod and a block of cement. They fractured the skull of the teacher and slashed the face.. . You should look into your culture a little more.Cheese gnome wrote:What a load of crap, the only schools that dont celebrate christmas are the islamic schools you pratt, we celebrate Eid and if we are lucky get a maximum of two days off and because we dont get intoxicated and get dressed up that bothers you? you celebrate christmas for the reason of getting p**ed and throwing a party... were in the bible does it say that. oyur supposed to be celbrating the birth of jesus(pbuh), with getting drunk handing out presents and eating turkey?!?! so yourself you would be a practising christian? And if you morons would open your eyes you would see what is in front of you..... can you tell me were jesus mary and joesph originate from the middle east so If I am correct there skin colour would have been ermmm brown and it looks to me that mary is wearing a head scarf and joesph let me see a jubbah or shalwar. Therefore before you idiots open your mouths maybe you should look into your own culture.pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
As for skin colours? Is that the issue? NO....Islamification of our country that is the issue.
jack daniels
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5:59pm Wed 23 Mar 11
ENGLISH SKINHEAD wrote:Unfortunately, I’m inclined to agree when halfwits like lancs1985 contributing to this thread. If they are going to remain in the gutter with their actions and ideology, then a conclusion to this whole situation will never be found.
jack daniels wrote: @lisakhan. I think the recent murders and arrests of Christian Pakistani’s, along with sympathetic lawyers and politicians springs to mind. We can also include Iraq (post Saddam Hussain) and Iran. It is also an offence to convert to Christianity in Indonesia. Hope this helps. Where does all this “kill the infidel” stuff come from? The anti Jewish drivel makes me laugh because many of the prophets in the old testament are the same as the Koran. A religion filled with hatred maybe??? Either way, incompatibility between UK culture and Islamic culture is an issue which needs addressing.Jack, I agree with most of the points you make. Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions. They all view the Old Testament as part of their own religion. And incidentally , they are all in their 'death throes' which is why it plays into the hands of extremists to be SO opposed to mainstream religion. There are plenty of cultural differences within Islamic culture itself. Young British Muslims who are in conflict with their parents/grandparents beliefs. The more people push against all Muslims, the more the religion will say "told you so". ps Not too much of a sterotype of the EDL/BNP. You're right, we should discuss difficult arguments. Their demo is intimidation.
jack daniels
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6:06pm Wed 23 Mar 11
lancs1985 wrote:Yes I know it’s a joke, you fecking idiot. But if you are seen as fundamentally racist on your EDL website you will be seen as a joke. Once you have no credibility, you will become dead, just like the BNP and the NF.
jack daniels wrote: Can I also point out that my girlfriend went onto the EDL (Blackburn) facebook site and somebody had posted a 'thick Irishman' joke. How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.Omg you are an absorlute fool, its a joke you pillock, do irish scotish welsh not tell jokes about english folk!!! No wonder the country is like it is with stupid pillocks like you, Get a grip of ya self you numpty!!!!!
If it was on your own, personal facebook, that’s fine, but on the facebook site of your ‘organisation’, it’s poorly judged. If you can’t understand this fundamental concept, then you really dumb a$$ed inbred numpty.
jack daniels
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6:15pm Wed 23 Mar 11
nice person wrote:@nice person. maybe lisakhan would prefer you to be at home cleaning the house all day before donning your veil, going to the local mosque, (using a different entrance to the men, and a less luxurious pray room) before picking up your disabled child (cousin marriages) from Newfield school.
lisakhan wrote:Look into it then and see what is happening around you. As for skin colours? Is that the issue? NO....Islamification of our country that is the issue.nice person wrote:My culture is the same as yours?!?lisakhan wrote:What of the teacher in London who was attacked by four asians because he taught a different religion to their sisters . And you talk about racism!!!!!. His name GARY SMITH the head of religious education at central foundations girls school. . The perpetrators, Akmol Hussein, 26, Sheikh Rashid, 27, Azad Hussain, 25, and Simon Alam, 19 used a Stanley knife, an iron rod and a block of cement. They fractured the skull of the teacher and slashed the face.. . You should look into your culture a little more.Cheese gnome wrote:What a load of crap, the only schools that dont celebrate christmas are the islamic schools you pratt, we celebrate Eid and if we are lucky get a maximum of two days off and because we dont get intoxicated and get dressed up that bothers you? you celebrate christmas for the reason of getting p**ed and throwing a party... were in the bible does it say that. oyur supposed to be celbrating the birth of jesus(pbuh), with getting drunk handing out presents and eating turkey?!?! so yourself you would be a practising christian? And if you morons would open your eyes you would see what is in front of you..... can you tell me were jesus mary and joesph originate from the middle east so If I am correct there skin colour would have been ermmm brown and it looks to me that mary is wearing a head scarf and joesph let me see a jubbah or shalwar. Therefore before you idiots open your mouths maybe you should look into your own culture.pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
As for skin colour, I know African heritage revert who cannot attend any local mosque because he is not from the right ‘clan’ back home. Funny old world eh….
lisakhan
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7:16pm Wed 23 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:It is a funny old world but nothing makes British,Islamic,Chri
nice person wrote:@nice person. maybe lisakhan would prefer you to be at home cleaning the house all day before donning your veil, going to the local mosque, (using a different entrance to the men, and a less luxurious pray room) before picking up your disabled child (cousin marriages) from Newfield school. As for skin colour, I know African heritage revert who cannot attend any local mosque because he is not from the right ‘clan’ back home. Funny old world eh….lisakhan wrote:Look into it then and see what is happening around you. As for skin colours? Is that the issue? NO....Islamification of our country that is the issue.nice person wrote:My culture is the same as yours?!?lisakhan wrote:What of the teacher in London who was attacked by four asians because he taught a different religion to their sisters . And you talk about racism!!!!!. His name GARY SMITH the head of religious education at central foundations girls school. . The perpetrators, Akmol Hussein, 26, Sheikh Rashid, 27, Azad Hussain, 25, and Simon Alam, 19 used a Stanley knife, an iron rod and a block of cement. They fractured the skull of the teacher and slashed the face.. . You should look into your culture a little more.Cheese gnome wrote:What a load of crap, the only schools that dont celebrate christmas are the islamic schools you pratt, we celebrate Eid and if we are lucky get a maximum of two days off and because we dont get intoxicated and get dressed up that bothers you? you celebrate christmas for the reason of getting p**ed and throwing a party... were in the bible does it say that. oyur supposed to be celbrating the birth of jesus(pbuh), with getting drunk handing out presents and eating turkey?!?! so yourself you would be a practising christian? And if you morons would open your eyes you would see what is in front of you..... can you tell me were jesus mary and joesph originate from the middle east so If I am correct there skin colour would have been ermmm brown and it looks to me that mary is wearing a head scarf and joesph let me see a jubbah or shalwar. Therefore before you idiots open your mouths maybe you should look into your own culture.pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
stianity,Jewish EDL BNP or anything else any better than the other each to there own... the only problem is that you get the MINORITY causing problems
racistcatcher
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8:24pm Wed 23 Mar 11
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SaveourStanley101
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8:38pm Wed 23 Mar 11
If this much anger can be raised in comments in this newspaper then one wonders what amount could be generated on the streets?
It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values.
Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering.
The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.
It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values.
Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering.
The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.
BwDouble
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9:01pm Wed 23 Mar 11
theworkerz wrote:If it goes by without violence or disruption i will eat my hat.
They're all going to be rentamobs. The real people they're hurting in all this are the taxpayers who will have to shell out for all that extra policing. But then again, how many of those sort of people will be paying tax?
BRFCs
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9:59pm Wed 23 Mar 11
I'm a young-ish white male who has lived in Blackburn all my life and boy there are HUGE issues in this town. The worry is that they are all festering behind the scenes and this demonstration could be explosive on both sides.
From my own POV, I have absolutely no issue with skin colour, or any religion as a right to exist and practice what they believe. I do, however, have a huge problem with religious values, institutions and groups that are living five hundred years in the past. In any country in the world, I hate to see this type of backward thinking. Whatever faith it is, fundamental branches of religion are totally against my key value of individual freedom.
In Blackburn, most religious groups are very tolerant of one another, which is the ideal. However, there are a number of muslims that are completely anti-white and who regard any non-muslim as infidels which I find disgusting. These people really do need to go back to what they consider to be their native lands and leave the rest of us to get along.
Alongside that, unfortunately, we have a minority of white people who are aggressive thugs and don't wish to accept any other religious practice at all. The problem is, this minority are managing to rouse the white majority who seem to be becoming evn more frustrated with a large ethnic minority moving into the town (25% British Asian or Asian in the last census) however they might be affecting Blackburn culture.
I agree with a peaceful protest from the EDL, they have my total support and everybody has the right to peaceful protest. I suspect, however, with all the morons on both sides of the fence, it might get a little nasty which is a shame because these issues need the exposure via a sensible medium. Hopefully, in time, things will be better than they currently are for all parties.
From my own POV, I have absolutely no issue with skin colour, or any religion as a right to exist and practice what they believe. I do, however, have a huge problem with religious values, institutions and groups that are living five hundred years in the past. In any country in the world, I hate to see this type of backward thinking. Whatever faith it is, fundamental branches of religion are totally against my key value of individual freedom.
In Blackburn, most religious groups are very tolerant of one another, which is the ideal. However, there are a number of muslims that are completely anti-white and who regard any non-muslim as infidels which I find disgusting. These people really do need to go back to what they consider to be their native lands and leave the rest of us to get along.
Alongside that, unfortunately, we have a minority of white people who are aggressive thugs and don't wish to accept any other religious practice at all. The problem is, this minority are managing to rouse the white majority who seem to be becoming evn more frustrated with a large ethnic minority moving into the town (25% British Asian or Asian in the last census) however they might be affecting Blackburn culture.
I agree with a peaceful protest from the EDL, they have my total support and everybody has the right to peaceful protest. I suspect, however, with all the morons on both sides of the fence, it might get a little nasty which is a shame because these issues need the exposure via a sensible medium. Hopefully, in time, things will be better than they currently are for all parties.
Livalot
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10:00pm Wed 23 Mar 11
the only time I have been in town and seen the EDL they were a load of loudmouthed yobs with plastic bags filled with beer cans
l m h jones
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10:50pm Wed 23 Mar 11
BRFCs wrote:thanks for a sane balanced comment!
I'm a young-ish white male who has lived in Blackburn all my life and boy there are HUGE issues in this town. The worry is that they are all festering behind the scenes and this demonstration could be explosive on both sides.
From my own POV, I have absolutely no issue with skin colour, or any religion as a right to exist and practice what they believe. I do, however, have a huge problem with religious values, institutions and groups that are living five hundred years in the past. In any country in the world, I hate to see this type of backward thinking. Whatever faith it is, fundamental branches of religion are totally against my key value of individual freedom.
In Blackburn, most religious groups are very tolerant of one another, which is the ideal. However, there are a number of muslims that are completely anti-white and who regard any non-muslim as infidels which I find disgusting. These people really do need to go back to what they consider to be their native lands and leave the rest of us to get along.
Alongside that, unfortunately, we have a minority of white people who are aggressive thugs and don't wish to accept any other religious practice at all. The problem is, this minority are managing to rouse the white majority who seem to be becoming evn more frustrated with a large ethnic minority moving into the town (25% British Asian or Asian in the last census) however they might be affecting Blackburn culture.
I agree with a peaceful protest from the EDL, they have my total support and everybody has the right to peaceful protest. I suspect, however, with all the morons on both sides of the fence, it might get a little nasty which is a shame because these issues need the exposure via a sensible medium. Hopefully, in time, things will be better than they currently are for all parties.
Faithless
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12:24am Thu 24 Mar 11
Are we all meeting up afterwards?
jbwalmsley
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1:30am Thu 24 Mar 11
Pity I cant be there , I would make 4501 in defence of our Brit principals.
Sometime we have got to stand up and be counted, and that before its too late.
Sometime we have got to stand up and be counted, and that before its too late.
mishel
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7:45am Thu 24 Mar 11
racistcatcher wrote:I fully agree Lisakhan....well said...about time something was done!
lisakhan wrote:WELL SAID LISAKHAN. WISH I COULD MARRY YOU (JUST JOKIN).Good call wrote: I'm going to the EDL protest because i've had enough of Muslim extremists being appeased and the Wider Islamic community dictating to the non Muslim majority and also the islamification of England.I'm not a racist, just a Patriot who's had enough of waiting for the Government to do somthing about the disease Of Islamification and Islamic extremism.There'll be 2000-4000 EDL and about 200-250 UAF/MDL Unwashed scum.To all those people on here who've been moaning (quite rightly) about the Council/Government pandering to the Islamic community,Halal meat being served in restraunts,Mosque Building,illegal mosque domes being allowed to stay,Muslim/Asian on White attacks being brushed under the carpet,Asian/Muslim pedo Gangs raping and pimping White youth and Islamic fanatics, here's your chance to stand up and actualy do somthing instead of Saying "The Mainstream Politicans should do something" or "I'm not racist but something should be done.2nd of April BE THERE.NO SURRENDER P.S I won't be debating with anybody who calls me :Racist,Nazi,Far-rig ht,Xenophobic,Little Englander,Extreme right winger etc .your going to the EDL march because of the minority of the muslim extremist that our muslim brothers and sisters do not agree with, and as for the halal meat situation you have probably been eating it for years after a saturday night out. and as for the pimping of white girls what a load of ****, is it ok for white men to be pimping girls? its been happening on king street for years but thats the norm, and muslim pedos I think if you look in to your accusations you will find that the majority of pedo's are white. And before you ask I am not muslim extremist and my skin colour is white. And I think if these idiots had proper day jobs they would have the time to create problems and people like yourself that say they arent racist really are and your just jumping on the band wagon because you havent got the balls to stand up for yourself,
RAyzer
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8:04am Thu 24 Mar 11
please do a survey......i bet less than 20% of the UAF and MDL work...id put money on it
racistcatcher
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8:57am Thu 24 Mar 11
LUTON DEMO FROM EDL COSTED US, YES US (WHO PAY TAXES) AROUND 850 GRAND!
WHY SHOULD WE PAY OUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO THESE USELESS, RACIST, FACIST PEOPLE?
ITS ABOUT TIME WE ALL GOT TOGETHER (MUSLIMS AND NON MUSLIMS) AND SAY NO TO EDL. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
THEY ARE NOT WELCOME IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT IS NOT THEIR COUNTRY.
MUSLIMS ALSO HAVE EN0UGH RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY THE WAY THAT EDL DO.
IT IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY, YES I AGREE, BUT IT IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, HINDU, SEIKH COUNTRY EITHER.
WHY SHOULD WE PAY OUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO THESE USELESS, RACIST, FACIST PEOPLE?
ITS ABOUT TIME WE ALL GOT TOGETHER (MUSLIMS AND NON MUSLIMS) AND SAY NO TO EDL. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
THEY ARE NOT WELCOME IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT IS NOT THEIR COUNTRY.
MUSLIMS ALSO HAVE EN0UGH RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY THE WAY THAT EDL DO.
IT IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY, YES I AGREE, BUT IT IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, HINDU, SEIKH COUNTRY EITHER.
neesh
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8:58am Thu 24 Mar 11
ewoodpark wrote:well,shouldn't you be taking that up with the schools in question and ask why they don't want to celebrate christmas? and don't take the cr@p that "muslims will be offended "because that is a load of bull. i am a muslim and far from being offended i love the christmasy atmosphere and i and many other muslims have taken part in nativity plays at school, my youngest child has played the part of "scrooge" in "a christmas carol" and my eldest was in the school choir. as for st.georges day i can't remember any one celebrating that event years ago even before islam hit the headlines,i do know that st.patrick's day was and is celebrated in a big way by the irish and no muslim has ever been offended by that, so why should st, geoges day be an issue? and i'm sure no one is going to object if you want to celebrate EID ,or any thing else for that matter. i agree with you about lads driving like loons but what's that got to do with religion? and if someone wants to hold a massive party what's that got to do with you?as long as they don't break the law what's the problem?and if kids take two days of school tocelebrate eid what business is it of yours? you aren't being personally effected are you?if you are then i suggest you take it up with the school in question. however if your'e objecting just because you don't like muslims then TOUGH.you say sharia law courts are becoming more commen in this country ,really?can you tell me where they are and how many court sessions you've attended? and tell me who's stoping you from sending your kids to the brand new school that's been built apart from your racist and bigoted attitude that is .try reading up about the real islam not the BNP version ,i'm sure you'll find there's nothing to be scared of.of course you can stand up for what you think is right but it would be helpful if you could get the facts right first.you will only be labeled a racist if you spew a load of bullc@p
Cheese gnome wrote:SWEET :-) .....(L) is that you?pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
neesh
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9:18am Thu 24 Mar 11
jbwalmsley wrote:so it's ok for you to live in someone elses country and live how you choose but it's not ok for someone else to live in your country and live how they choose?
Pity I cant be there , I would make 4501 in defence of our Brit principals. Sometime we have got to stand up and be counted, and that before its too late.
neesh
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9:26am Thu 24 Mar 11
SaveourStanley101 wrote:youv'e hit the nail on the head.
If this much anger can be raised in comments in this newspaper then one wonders what amount could be generated on the streets? It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values. Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering. The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.
useyourhead
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10:01am Thu 24 Mar 11
neesh wrote:Most have no objection to anyone living how they like here, but when those customs and traditions are imposed on the indiginous population, forcing them to adapt to them, we draw the line.
jbwalmsley wrote:so it's ok for you to live in someone elses country and live how you choose but it's not ok for someone else to live in your country and live how they choose?
Pity I cant be there , I would make 4501 in defence of our Brit principals. Sometime we have got to stand up and be counted, and that before its too late.
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could I go to India or Pakistan and start demanding the local shops sell pork for my sunday roast or have the school stop prayers because it offends my child, not bother to learn the language then expect everything to be translated for me. set up my own court, with British common law, I suspect I would be Beaten or killed.
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enjoy your traditions and culture by all means, just don't try to ram it down my throat and expect me to swallow it any more.
HU
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10:34am Thu 24 Mar 11
I heard the Protest is starting at Cathedral and down st Peter St up Mincing Lance towards King Georges Hall?
Can someone confirm the route?
Can someone confirm the route?
Cheese gnome
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10:40am Thu 24 Mar 11
neesh wrote:You may not be offended but you can't say that there isn't muslims who are offended, the way Britain as gone we go with the minority rather than the majority.
ewoodpark wrote:well,shouldn't you be taking that up with the schools in question and ask why they don't want to celebrate christmas? and don't take the cr@p that "muslims will be offended "because that is a load of bull. i am a muslim and far from being offended i love the christmasy atmosphere and i and many other muslims have taken part in nativity plays at school, my youngest child has played the part of "scrooge" in "a christmas carol" and my eldest was in the school choir. as for st.georges day i can't remember any one celebrating that event years ago even before islam hit the headlines,i do know that st.patrick's day was and is celebrated in a big way by the irish and no muslim has ever been offended by that, so why should st, geoges day be an issue? and i'm sure no one is going to object if you want to celebrate EID ,or any thing else for that matter. i agree with you about lads driving like loons but what's that got to do with religion? and if someone wants to hold a massive party what's that got to do with you?as long as they don't break the law what's the problem?and if kids take two days of school tocelebrate eid what business is it of yours? you aren't being personally effected are you?if you are then i suggest you take it up with the school in question. however if your'e objecting just because you don't like muslims then TOUGH.you say sharia law courts are becoming more commen in this country ,really?can you tell me where they are and how many court sessions you've attended? and tell me who's stoping you from sending your kids to the brand new school that's been built apart from your racist and bigoted attitude that is .try reading up about the real islam not the BNP version ,i'm sure you'll find there's nothing to be scared of.of course you can stand up for what you think is right but it would be helpful if you could get the facts right first.you will only be labeled a racist if you spew a load of bullc@p
Cheese gnome wrote:SWEET :-) .....(L) is that you?pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
Yet again i will say i have no problem with muslims celebrating their times so long as they have no problems with ours.
If muslim children are allowed to be taken out of school for religious reasons then all children should be allowed, you want equal rights well so do we.
http://www.dailymail
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That link will tell you about the shariah law courts operating in Britain, thats from 2009 so i can assume there will be a few more by now.
Now i know its all about how you interprate the koran, you have to admit that some people do not interprate the koran as peace.
I am not racist, just making a stand against radical islam and the islam ideaology.
lisakhan
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10:55am Thu 24 Mar 11
useyourhead wrote:Who is imposing there religions and traditions on you, Islam is one of the fastest growing religions.. the reason why the local shops and businesses have started to sell halal foods and produts isnt because we have demanded that, It is because they know that by selling it they will make a profit, muslim have there own shops and butchers but its the supermarkets i.e Asda, K.F.C that are trying to make money. We do enjoy our traditions but the we arent ramming anything down anyones throats. Maybe if you followed your own traditions there wouldnt be a problem. keep britian british what a load of **** is just an excuse for the racist to cause a problem and all those that cant speak for themselves hide behind them uneducated wa**ers.
neesh wrote:Most have no objection to anyone living how they like here, but when those customs and traditions are imposed on the indiginous population, forcing them to adapt to them, we draw the line. - could I go to India or Pakistan and start demanding the local shops sell pork for my sunday roast or have the school stop prayers because it offends my child, not bother to learn the language then expect everything to be translated for me. set up my own court, with British common law, I suspect I would be Beaten or killed. - enjoy your traditions and culture by all means, just don't try to ram it down my throat and expect me to swallow it any more.jbwalmsley wrote: Pity I cant be there , I would make 4501 in defence of our Brit principals. Sometime we have got to stand up and be counted, and that before its too late.so it's ok for you to live in someone elses country and live how you choose but it's not ok for someone else to live in your country and live how they choose?
HU
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11:06am Thu 24 Mar 11
well said LisaKhan...
we are not telling Asda, Tesco, KFC Etc to sell halal.. they know theres a market for it and want to make a profit so they are selling halal products.
we couldn't care less if KFC did Halal chicken, we have plenty Halal places that do fried chicken better than KFC.
if you have problems with that then go to KFC HQ and protest there!
we are not telling Asda, Tesco, KFC Etc to sell halal.. they know theres a market for it and want to make a profit so they are selling halal products.
we couldn't care less if KFC did Halal chicken, we have plenty Halal places that do fried chicken better than KFC.
if you have problems with that then go to KFC HQ and protest there!
lisakhan
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2:07pm Thu 24 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:Jack daniels.... therefore are you youself not dropping to there low levels and childish name calling??
Can I also point out that my girlfriend went onto the EDL (Blackburn) facebook site and somebody had posted a 'thick Irishman' joke. How can people take you seriously if you resort to this low level and childish name calling. Your point is valid, your worries are sound, but if you come across as dumb racists then you are letting yourselves and this country down.
Caspar the ghost
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2:41pm Thu 24 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:Lots of common sense Jack, but unfortunately they (those who you listed) are not interested in democracy and only have their own agenda which is to create mayhem as much as they can and blame the other side.
Democracy has a price. Shame on the Unite Against Facism, Blackburn and Darwen Unite Against Racism, Muslim Defence League, Trades Council and National Union of Students for taking this away. If people have concerns about the influx of islam, address these concerns, don’t stand on Sudell cross suppressing the freedom of speech.
Anybody (both sides) that need to go on the streets to make a protest is a crying shame layed at the feet of our useless politicians.
Who will pay for the Policing operation and the clean-up afterwards?
That's right....joe soap..the public.
neesh
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4:41pm Thu 24 Mar 11
pocketdragon wrote:a lot of people on this site don't even believe in god,so what difrence does it make what a christmas play is called? you celebrete christmas because of christ but according to most of you there is no god so why are you celebrating the birth of jesus christ ?
About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.
(may peace be upon him).
neesh
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5:11pm Thu 24 Mar 11
Cheese gnome wrote:so how come i didn't get any special treatment when i asked for time off for my son? his school very clearly informed me that if i take him on holiday during term time iwould get fined or my son could lose his place in school.i am asian/muslim. my religion and race had nothing to do with the school's rules .
makaveli96 wrote:Disgusting! A friend of mine has recently been told her children will not be granted the holiday request and she could be fined for taking her children out of school for 1 week. Seems to me equal rights has now gone out of the window. Religion is being used in a lot of cases to bypass the laws and customs of this country. The more the government refuses to listen the more people will be forced to make a stand. Change needs to come sooner rather than later.Cheese gnome wrote:I recently put in a request at my childrens Catholic school for 2 weeks absence in October (me and my partner are getting married in Mexico). It was turned down. I was told if I was going on a Haj though (for 6 weeks) it would be authorised as this is classed as cultural learning. Im not racist, but my head is hurting at the way things are!pocketdragon wrote: About time people took a stand for what they believe. Lets just hope they dont resort to violence. I for one am tired of this country having the back ripped out of it and having to pander to the whims of those who make life harder all round. I mean, come on, nativity plays are now christingle assemblies. Soon they'll be known as december celebrations.There are some schools where Christmas is no longer celebrated. Christmas lights are now "holiday lights" Some areas don't celebrate St Georges day for fear of offending minority groups yet the minority groups are allowed to march to celebrate anything they one and on EID drive like loons and hold massive parties then take a few days off school. Schools in a bad state of repair yet we can find the money to build a brand new school for the minority groups . Shariah law courts are becoming more common in this country, I for one do not want to see shariah become our way of life. I have done a lot of reading about Islam, the muslim religion, the koran and shariah law lately and it makes quite a scary read. Soon as anyone stands up and makes a stand the racism card comes out and everyone gets a far right label attached to them. Enough is enough.
rishtonred
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9:56pm Thu 24 Mar 11
neesh wrote:no-one has a problem with folk moving in to our country and living how they want. Just do not expect us to bend over backwards to accommodate them.
jbwalmsley wrote:so it's ok for you to live in someone elses country and live how you choose but it's not ok for someone else to live in your country and live how they choose?
Pity I cant be there , I would make 4501 in defence of our Brit principals. Sometime we have got to stand up and be counted, and that before its too late.
This is England. Love it, or leave it.
neesh
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4:03pm Fri 25 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:actually jack, in their minds they did want revenge ,it could have been for iraq or afghanistan or palastine or any where else that western policy caused suffering to any innocent muslim man women or child. yes ,they were idiots because they did what islam has specifically forbiden ,islam forbids taking of innocent lives and it has forbiden hurting innocent people in any way,it has also forbiden suicide. and i don't know what you mean by "ungrateful" ,ungrateful to whom or what? after all they were born in this country ,they didn't come here of their own accord. they were stupid enough to think they will get paradise if they blow themselves up ,brainwashed by the real extremeists,they are the ones you and your EDL friends should be rightfully fighting against if you did that instead of campaigning against chickens and domes all the right minded muslims would support you.
neesh wrote:Can't quite seem to recall the last time I invaded a country but somehow I'm being the subject of revenge. Is it revenge when Brits of Asian heritage explode themselves on the London Underground? Was it revenge in the small minds of the idiots playing soldiers in Corporation park a few years ago? What a set of ungrateful idiots, Maybe this may start to explain why people are getting concerned.SaveourStanley101 wrote: If this much anger can be raised in comments in this newspaper then one wonders what amount could be generated on the streets? It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values. Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering. The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.youv'e hit the nail on the head.
jack daniels
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6:06pm Sat 26 Mar 11
neesh wrote:They are ungrateful to the taxpayers of this country who paid for the midwifes at their birth, the doctors, the schooling, the housing, the hospitals, the colleges and universities that some or all of them used. They where given opportunities and public services, paid for by the British tax payer, that they may not have had in India or Pakistan yet choose to attack INNOCENT people. Somehow you seem comfortable defending your extremist, murdering colleagues and choosing to attack a demonstration which I have no affiliation to.
jack daniels wrote:actually jack, in their minds they did want revenge ,it could have been for iraq or afghanistan or palastine or any where else that western policy caused suffering to any innocent muslim man women or child. yes ,they were idiots because they did what islam has specifically forbiden ,islam forbids taking of innocent lives and it has forbiden hurting innocent people in any way,it has also forbiden suicide. and i don't know what you mean by "ungrateful" ,ungrateful to whom or what? after all they were born in this country ,they didn't come here of their own accord. they were stupid enough to think they will get paradise if they blow themselves up ,brainwashed by the real extremeists,they are the ones you and your EDL friends should be rightfully fighting against if you did that instead of campaigning against chickens and domes all the right minded muslims would support you.neesh wrote:Can't quite seem to recall the last time I invaded a country but somehow I'm being the subject of revenge. Is it revenge when Brits of Asian heritage explode themselves on the London Underground? Was it revenge in the small minds of the idiots playing soldiers in Corporation park a few years ago? What a set of ungrateful idiots, Maybe this may start to explain why people are getting concerned.SaveourStanley101 wrote: If this much anger can be raised in comments in this newspaper then one wonders what amount could be generated on the streets? It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values. Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering. The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.youv'e hit the nail on the head.
neesh
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7:27pm Sat 26 Mar 11
jack daniels wrote:i am not defending them,nor are they my colleagues,if you read again isaid they did everything thats against islamic teachings ,and that they were brainwashed into thinking they would get paradise if they blew themselves up, and in THEIR minds they thought they were taking revenge for western policies ,and that it would be better if EDL demonstrated against extremtsts instead of waffling on about chickens and domes,as for being ungrateful tp midwives etc. that goes for all the murdering scums from all walks of life. and i apologise for affilliating you wrongly with any group with whom you have no connection
neesh wrote:They are ungrateful to the taxpayers of this country who paid for the midwifes at their birth, the doctors, the schooling, the housing, the hospitals, the colleges and universities that some or all of them used. They where given opportunities and public services, paid for by the British tax payer, that they may not have had in India or Pakistan yet choose to attack INNOCENT people. Somehow you seem comfortable defending your extremist, murdering colleagues and choosing to attack a demonstration which I have no affiliation to.jack daniels wrote:actually jack, in their minds they did want revenge ,it could have been for iraq or afghanistan or palastine or any where else that western policy caused suffering to any innocent muslim man women or child. yes ,they were idiots because they did what islam has specifically forbiden ,islam forbids taking of innocent lives and it has forbiden hurting innocent people in any way,it has also forbiden suicide. and i don't know what you mean by "ungrateful" ,ungrateful to whom or what? after all they were born in this country ,they didn't come here of their own accord. they were stupid enough to think they will get paradise if they blow themselves up ,brainwashed by the real extremeists,they are the ones you and your EDL friends should be rightfully fighting against if you did that instead of campaigning against chickens and domes all the right minded muslims would support you.neesh wrote:Can't quite seem to recall the last time I invaded a country but somehow I'm being the subject of revenge. Is it revenge when Brits of Asian heritage explode themselves on the London Underground? Was it revenge in the small minds of the idiots playing soldiers in Corporation park a few years ago? What a set of ungrateful idiots, Maybe this may start to explain why people are getting concerned.SaveourStanley101 wrote: If this much anger can be raised in comments in this newspaper then one wonders what amount could be generated on the streets? It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values. Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering. The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.youv'e hit the nail on the head.
jack daniels
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7:44pm Sat 26 Mar 11
neesh wrote:Apology accepted, and I in turn apologise for accusing you of sympathising with Extremists.
jack daniels wrote:i am not defending them,nor are they my colleagues,if you read again isaid they did everything thats against islamic teachings ,and that they were brainwashed into thinking they would get paradise if they blew themselves up, and in THEIR minds they thought they were taking revenge for western policies ,and that it would be better if EDL demonstrated against extremtsts instead of waffling on about chickens and domes,as for being ungrateful tp midwives etc. that goes for all the murdering scums from all walks of life. and i apologise for affilliating you wrongly with any group with whom you have no connectionneesh wrote:They are ungrateful to the taxpayers of this country who paid for the midwifes at their birth, the doctors, the schooling, the housing, the hospitals, the colleges and universities that some or all of them used. They where given opportunities and public services, paid for by the British tax payer, that they may not have had in India or Pakistan yet choose to attack INNOCENT people. Somehow you seem comfortable defending your extremist, murdering colleagues and choosing to attack a demonstration which I have no affiliation to.jack daniels wrote:actually jack, in their minds they did want revenge ,it could have been for iraq or afghanistan or palastine or any where else that western policy caused suffering to any innocent muslim man women or child. yes ,they were idiots because they did what islam has specifically forbiden ,islam forbids taking of innocent lives and it has forbiden hurting innocent people in any way,it has also forbiden suicide. and i don't know what you mean by "ungrateful" ,ungrateful to whom or what? after all they were born in this country ,they didn't come here of their own accord. they were stupid enough to think they will get paradise if they blow themselves up ,brainwashed by the real extremeists,they are the ones you and your EDL friends should be rightfully fighting against if you did that instead of campaigning against chickens and domes all the right minded muslims would support you.neesh wrote:Can't quite seem to recall the last time I invaded a country but somehow I'm being the subject of revenge. Is it revenge when Brits of Asian heritage explode themselves on the London Underground? Was it revenge in the small minds of the idiots playing soldiers in Corporation park a few years ago? What a set of ungrateful idiots, Maybe this may start to explain why people are getting concerned.SaveourStanley101 wrote: If this much anger can be raised in comments in this newspaper then one wonders what amount could be generated on the streets? It would seem that many persons of white English descent do not like having their homeland invaded by foreigners with different concepts and values. Is this payback time now for England for its invasion, and destruction of, so many societies? Just wondering. The expression "What goes around comes around" does spring to mind.youv'e hit the nail on the head.
The truth will tell on the EDL. If they are plain racists, then they will never get the backing of British society. If however, their opinions hold merit, then hopefully those issues can be addressed at a more amicable level.
roverspal
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1:18pm Sun 27 Mar 11
Blackburn EDL Admin wrote:PEOPLE WHO in a democratic society have a leader who is unelected, who is a woman beater, who was a member of the BNP,(he joined in 2004) who is violent towards police, who has spent time in jail for a year.(2005)whose members claim fraudulent injury claims, most of who have a criminal record, most are indolent uneducated school drop outs..who, like Muslim women, hide their faces when on these marches as they throw objects hiding from the camera's..
What do you mean by "those sort of people"?
NOT STEREOTYPING IN ANY WAY ...
rishtonred
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8:12pm Sun 27 Mar 11
roverspal wrote:It pleases me no end that many of our muslim "brothers" underestimate the level of our education, our resolve and commitment, and our knowledge of all matters religious and political.
Blackburn EDL Admin wrote:PEOPLE WHO in a democratic society have a leader who is unelected, who is a woman beater, who was a member of the BNP,(he joined in 2004) who is violent towards police, who has spent time in jail for a year.(2005)whose members claim fraudulent injury claims, most of who have a criminal record, most are indolent uneducated school drop outs..who, like Muslim women, hide their faces when on these marches as they throw objects hiding from the camera's..
What do you mean by "those sort of people"?
NOT STEREOTYPING IN ANY WAY ...
Spout away, quote your "truth" and by doing so, drive even more English people towards the EDL.
Thank you for your efforts.
The EDL is for England... love it, or leave it.
jack daniels
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8:29pm Sun 27 Mar 11
rishtonred wrote:Of course racistpal™ won't leave. Even though he hates all our weaknesses and failures, he's knows he is on to a good deal. Maybe things wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have to house, feed, educate and maintain the health of all these immigrants from the poorest parts of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.
roverspal wrote:It pleases me no end that many of our muslim "brothers" underestimate the level of our education, our resolve and commitment, and our knowledge of all matters religious and political. Spout away, quote your "truth" and by doing so, drive even more English people towards the EDL. Thank you for your efforts. The EDL is for England... love it, or leave it.Blackburn EDL Admin wrote: What do you mean by "those sort of people"?PEOPLE WHO in a democratic society have a leader who is unelected, who is a woman beater, who was a member of the BNP,(he joined in 2004) who is violent towards police, who has spent time in jail for a year.(2005)whose members claim fraudulent injury claims, most of who have a criminal record, most are indolent uneducated school drop outs..who, like Muslim women, hide their faces when on these marches as they throw objects hiding from the camera's.. NOT STEREOTYPING IN ANY WAY ...
lisakhan
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12:43pm Tue 29 Mar 11
I think your all going off the track here,, we are suppose to be going on about the EDL coming not fighting with each other which by the way is what they want. Its shouldnt matter what colour race or religion you are, and it doesnt make one superior over the other because they are white and they want britian british, being multicultural is about being british!
jack daniels
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7:49pm Tue 29 Mar 11
lisakhan wrote:It’s not about black and white; it’s about culture and religion. The esteemed Salim Mullah said that he was against Atheism in schools. That’s because he has been a Muslim all his life. He cannot comprehend the idea that there is no God, and that clouds his judgement. His faith does not allow Atheism and that is why there is a problem. As a councillor with BwD that makes him biased, no matter how hard he tries.
I think your all going off the track here,, we are suppose to be going on about the EDL coming not fighting with each other which by the way is what they want. Its shouldnt matter what colour race or religion you are, and it doesnt make one superior over the other because they are white and they want britian british, being multicultural is about being british!
With this idea, our children get to decide with open arms which way to choose. THAT is what religion is all about. You can’t force religion onto people. What would happen if a Muslim child decided to become Buddhist? It would not be allowed to happen, yet in 21st century Britain it should. The asian girl wanting to be Miss world – given death threats and told by a Lord that it is the wrong thing to do.
Like I’ve always said. Different culture, different rules and Non-compatible.
Vim
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9:54am Sat 2 Apr 11
Good to see the fascists are out in force trying to hide their ignorant bigotry behind the facade of 'genuine concerns'.
The whole idea of an 'English Defence League' supporting any ideas based on Aryan ideals is ridiculous. Any 'true' Englishman (in their own definition) should reject such Nordic/Germanic roots and embrace their CELTIC origins.
The Lancastrian Defence League will be out to counter-protest the EDL and their Yorkshire/southern agenda!!!
The whole idea of an 'English Defence League' supporting any ideas based on Aryan ideals is ridiculous. Any 'true' Englishman (in their own definition) should reject such Nordic/Germanic roots and embrace their CELTIC origins.
The Lancastrian Defence League will be out to counter-protest the EDL and their Yorkshire/southern agenda!!!
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5:53pm Tue 22 Mar 11