Ex-soldiers to mentor East Lancashire pupils (From Lancashire Telegraph)

And lets face it...this government is ensuring a good supply of ex-soldiers.

Jobs for the boys I see.
This is diabolical why get a bunch of out of touch bunch of people with no experience of civilian life to give advice to our young people.
You can bet your bottom dollar these ex servicemen will be quite high ranking as I say jobs for the boys.

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Jobs for the boys I see.
This is diabolical why get a bunch of out of touch bunch of people with no experience of civilian life to give advice to our young people.
You can bet your bottom dollar these ex servicemen will be quite high ranking as I say jobs for the boys.

I think this is an excellent idea.
We have a bunch of out of touch people with only experience of civilian life and look at the crap job they've been doing for the last 15 years at least!

These soldiers will bring some discipline and respect back into the lives of teenagers and give them some drive and ambition to achieve something with their lives.

Another good thing is they will have experience of spotting potential radicals and future terrorists before they have a chance to be radicalized by dodgy Imams!

2 for 5p wrote:
Jobs for the boys I see.
This is diabolical why get a bunch of out of touch bunch of people with no experience of civilian life to give advice to our young people.
You can bet your bottom dollar these ex servicemen will be quite high ranking as I say jobs for the boys.

Proposals to have ex-soldiers mentor, one-on-one, our young ones, are to be welcomed with open arms, except if they intend to play a bugle at the bottom of the stairs to get the kids out of bed for a spot of of pre-school PT.
All daftness aside, it could be a good thing but I'm biased by being ex-Army.

Discipline, pride in yourself and what you do are core values that are somewhat lacking in some. How anyone can say that any soldier is out of touch with civilian life is bemusing, since one of the principles of modern warfare is, win the war then win the peace. Have you never heard of the term, 'hearts and minds'? It's from Plato's Republic in the 4 century BC and is something that common soldiers know.
Not for nothing is the British soldier called a professional, for he has to have many strings to his bow just to do his 'job'.
If any child learns the lessons of, get to bed early, get dressed presentable, eat a good breakfast, get to school on time then listen and learn, the 'job' wouldn't need to be done, would it?

Personally, I'd turn it on it's head and send the parents to a boot camp. Where they would learn how to lead by example, how to instil discipline without violence, the value of education and last but not least, how simple kindness can melt the stoniest of hearts, since most confrontations are won by diplomacy and negotiation, not by the one that carries the big stick.

It may only be 13 chapters long but what Sun Tzu wrote in or around 500BC is as relevant now as it was back then, 'Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?' Now written as, 'be all that you can be'.

The great myth about being a soldier is that you are unthinking trained killer.
The days of Tommy Atkins being just cannon fodder are long gone and rightly so, for we need to be able to trust that our soldiers have the 'common sense' to know when and when not to pull the trigger.

When you consider the number of crimes committed by one drug user to feed an habit. Then if just one soldier can make one child take a different path, how richer are we for that act?

And to close on a wooly thought..
The Good Shepherd cares more for the one errant sheep than the other ninety-nine in his flock, as someone once said.

Well said woolywords and rumpole it's a great scheme. Good for the young people and good for the veterans. What a pity that Labour and Lib/Dems voted against it. Disgraceful!

Our kids need to learn that authority comes with power and what better way than employing ex-forces to show them the way. No doubt there will be some communist do-gooder wanting to shout it down.

If the army
Y is so great why do the majority jack in long before there career ends

Ex army hey. Now let's break this down

1.up until 12 years ago it was a military offence to be homosexual , so I think it's a pretty safe bet that there's a lot of homophobics getting these jobs.
2.look at how many ethnic minority's are in the army not enough to meet national average, why is this?
3. They have been investigated on numerous occasions about institutionalised bullying. Why is this?
4.there is also the fact that a large number of ex service men end up on street or prison . Why is this?

Now you want this bunch teaching our kids how to live , now get real you fools and face facts.

2 for 5p wrote:
Ex army hey. Now let's break this down

1.up until 12 years ago it was a military offence to be homosexual , so I think it's a pretty safe bet that there's a lot of homophobics getting these jobs.
2.look at how many ethnic minority's are in the army not enough to meet national average, why is this?
3. They have been investigated on numerous occasions about institutionalised bullying. Why is this?
4.there is also the fact that a large number of ex service men end up on street or prison . Why is this?

Now you want this bunch teaching our kids how to live , now get real you fools and face facts.

From every comment you have posted on here it would be hard to ignore the fact that you hold nothing but disdain for the Army.

Were you rejected by the Army or kicked out by any chamce?

You're a bigot who would have benefitted from mentoring by a soldier when you were truanting from school.

Change your username to Krusty or Coco.