New home-buyers in Darwen must pay for bins

7:00pm Thursday 4th October 2012 in News Photograph of the Author By Catherine Pye, Health reporter

Coun Roy Davies at the Woodland Park development Coun Roy Davies at the Woodland Park development

HOME-buyers on a new Darwen estate are being hit with an unexpected £90 fee for bins.

Miller Homes, who are building the Woodland Park development in the Anyon Street area of Sudell, have declined to pay for wheelie, recycling or garden waste bins for the new homes.

Blackburn with Darwen Council says that, historically, it has been the developer’s responsibility to provide the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so.

Coun Roy Davies said he had been contacted by several new owners with complaints. He said: “People have to be aware of this, because at the moment, they’re buying houses and then being hit with another cost.

“Ninety pounds is a lot of money especially after the cost of moving. But it’s peanuts for big developers, so they should take some responsibility.”

A spokesman for Miller Homes said the company had sold 228 properties on the site over seven years and provision of bins had always been the responsibility of the resident.

The spokesman added: “Policies differ according to local authority area but in the majority of cases, in our experience, it is accepted that the local authority is responsible for the free provision of wheelie bins or that they are funded by the residents. In the case of Woodland Park, we have never been responsible for provision.”

A council spokesman said: “Historically, it was the developers who bought the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so, and so this kind of charge is not a new thing. We also now charge for bins that are lost or stolen, but we replace damaged bins free of charge. From our perspective, owners are buying into the whole collection service, not just buying a bin.”

In Ribble Valley, the council will provide bins if it is a single house that has been built, but on larger sites, the developer pays.

Hyndburn currently supplies bins for new properties but recently some developers have agreed to provide them as part of Section 106 agreements. The requirement is set to be formalised shortly.

Comments (23)

7:15pm Thu 4 Oct 12

2 for 5p says...

Quote:

it has been the developer’s responsibility to provide the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so.

And


A spokesman for Miller Homes said the company had sold 228 properties on the site over seven years and provision of bins had always been the
responsibility of the resident.
Quote: it has been the developer’s responsibility to provide the bins, but there is no requirement for them to do so. And A spokesman for Miller Homes said the company had sold 228 properties on the site over seven years and provision of bins had always been the responsibility of the resident. 2 for 5p

7:16pm Thu 4 Oct 12

2 for 5p says...

Its quite clear there in black and white what is your problem
Its quite clear there in black and white what is your problem 2 for 5p

8:26pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Scooby says...

This is news? It's just part of buying a new house, same as getting a tv aerial, turfing the garden, decorating the rooms...
This is news? It's just part of buying a new house, same as getting a tv aerial, turfing the garden, decorating the rooms... Scooby

8:42pm Thu 4 Oct 12

jellybiff says...

just do what the stanis do and take your bin from the old house.That's why you see all of pendles bins in Burnley now they have moved the council doesn't bother .
just do what the stanis do and take your bin from the old house.That's why you see all of pendles bins in Burnley now they have moved the council doesn't bother . jellybiff

9:52pm Thu 4 Oct 12

2 for 5p says...

I'm quite sure if someone can afford a new house £90 for a bin is not to much to ask.
I'm quite sure if someone can afford a new house £90 for a bin is not to much to ask. 2 for 5p

12:02am Fri 5 Oct 12

vanmanstan says...

i can supply for £50
i can supply for £50 vanmanstan

7:02am Fri 5 Oct 12

jack daniels says...

I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin
I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin jack daniels

11:09am Fri 5 Oct 12

Fire Fly says...

2 for 5p wrote:
I'm quite sure if someone can afford a new house £90 for a bin is not to much to ask.
I disagree. Having just bought a house you're totally out of cash by the time everyone's ripped you off.

The deposits you now need in order to secure a mortgage are massive. As Jack Daniels has said...we pay council tax for refuse collection & as they insist on a certain bin type, they should provide them.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p[/bold] wrote: I'm quite sure if someone can afford a new house £90 for a bin is not to much to ask.[/p][/quote]I disagree. Having just bought a house you're totally out of cash by the time everyone's ripped you off. The deposits you now need in order to secure a mortgage are massive. As Jack Daniels has said...we pay council tax for refuse collection & as they insist on a certain bin type, they should provide them. Fire Fly

11:47am Fri 5 Oct 12

useyourhead says...

This sounds similar to the food size reductions the supermarkets are doing, keep the prices the same but when you look into it you get a lot less than you used to.
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I wonder how long before you get the keys and have no boiler or roof lol, always read the small print.. you signed the paperwork so you pay.
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I also wonder how many bins will go missing from the adjacent streets in the coming months?
This sounds similar to the food size reductions the supermarkets are doing, keep the prices the same but when you look into it you get a lot less than you used to. - I wonder how long before you get the keys and have no boiler or roof lol, always read the small print.. you signed the paperwork so you pay. - I also wonder how many bins will go missing from the adjacent streets in the coming months? useyourhead

12:28pm Fri 5 Oct 12

darwenTower says...

Either those houses are really small or Cllr Davies is a giant.
Either those houses are really small or Cllr Davies is a giant. darwenTower

12:42pm Fri 5 Oct 12

HILLBILLYBOB says...

This is where the council have house owners over the "proverbial barrel"
I recently had a wheelie bin taken on the day of waste collection and was told by the council that I would have to pay for a new bin from them, or replace it myself.
But the bin had to be the exact same specification as the bins they supply, and to quote.... 'Not one just from B & Q' So householders have no other choice but to purchase one from the council.
I was also told that if I didnt buy a bin and I just put binbags out on the day of collection then I would be flytipping.
The advisor at the council then told me to 'Save up for one as they were only £90'!!!!
This is where the council have house owners over the "proverbial barrel" I recently had a wheelie bin taken on the day of waste collection and was told by the council that I would have to pay for a new bin from them, or replace it myself. But the bin had to be the exact same specification as the bins they supply, and to quote.... 'Not one just from B & Q' So householders have no other choice but to purchase one from the council. I was also told that if I didnt buy a bin and I just put binbags out on the day of collection then I would be flytipping. The advisor at the council then told me to 'Save up for one as they were only £90'!!!! HILLBILLYBOB

1:21pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Totally says...

We bought a house on an estate in Lower Darwen 12 years ago and had to pay for a bin and then again when we moved to another new house 7 years ago - this is not news.
We bought a house on an estate in Lower Darwen 12 years ago and had to pay for a bin and then again when we moved to another new house 7 years ago - this is not news. Totally

1:59pm Fri 5 Oct 12

2 for 5p says...

jack daniels wrote:
I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin
When you say the council should pay what you mean is council tax payers should have it put on there bills.
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin[/p][/quote]When you say the council should pay what you mean is council tax payers should have it put on there bills. 2 for 5p

2:04pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Progressive Penguin says...

HILLBILLYBOB wrote:
This is where the council have house owners over the "proverbial barrel" I recently had a wheelie bin taken on the day of waste collection and was told by the council that I would have to pay for a new bin from them, or replace it myself. But the bin had to be the exact same specification as the bins they supply, and to quote.... 'Not one just from B & Q' So householders have no other choice but to purchase one from the council. I was also told that if I didnt buy a bin and I just put binbags out on the day of collection then I would be flytipping. The advisor at the council then told me to 'Save up for one as they were only £90'!!!!
I'm suprised that your ire is aimed at the council there instead of the cheap scroates who stole your bin.

If you had your TV stolen you wouldn't expect Sony to give you a new one
[quote][p][bold]HILLBILLYBOB[/bold] wrote: This is where the council have house owners over the "proverbial barrel" I recently had a wheelie bin taken on the day of waste collection and was told by the council that I would have to pay for a new bin from them, or replace it myself. But the bin had to be the exact same specification as the bins they supply, and to quote.... 'Not one just from B & Q' So householders have no other choice but to purchase one from the council. I was also told that if I didnt buy a bin and I just put binbags out on the day of collection then I would be flytipping. The advisor at the council then told me to 'Save up for one as they were only £90'!!!![/p][/quote]I'm suprised that your ire is aimed at the council there instead of the cheap scroates who stole your bin. If you had your TV stolen you wouldn't expect Sony to give you a new one Progressive Penguin

2:26pm Fri 5 Oct 12

allan1957 says...

Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it
Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it allan1957

3:01pm Fri 5 Oct 12

jack daniels says...

2 for 5p wrote:
jack daniels wrote: I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin
When you say the council should pay what you mean is council tax payers should have it put on there bills.
and the home owners pay council tax too.

It's like when you get Sky TV and they say you get a 'free' set top box. We all know the price of the box is in the monthy subscription.

Same thing
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: I would have thought that if you are paying council tax for your refuse collection then the council should pay for the bin, especially if the council insist on a specific type of bin[/p][/quote]When you say the council should pay what you mean is council tax payers should have it put on there bills.[/p][/quote]and the home owners pay council tax too. It's like when you get Sky TV and they say you get a 'free' set top box. We all know the price of the box is in the monthy subscription. Same thing jack daniels

4:16pm Fri 5 Oct 12

happycyclist says...

If the council provided everyone with a bin (and everyone is paying for it with their council tax anyway) there would be no thefts of bins and no endless number of people traipsing into the town hall to report their bin stolen, only to be told to go to the police and get a crime number. Nobody would have to steal someone else's bin because theirs was stolen.
If the council provided everyone with a bin (and everyone is paying for it with their council tax anyway) there would be no thefts of bins and no endless number of people traipsing into the town hall to report their bin stolen, only to be told to go to the police and get a crime number. Nobody would have to steal someone else's bin because theirs was stolen. happycyclist

4:18pm Fri 5 Oct 12

happycyclist says...

allan1957 wrote:
Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it
How the hell can you buy something and it remains the property of the person that sold it to you?
[quote][p][bold]allan1957[/bold] wrote: Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it[/p][/quote]How the hell can you buy something and it remains the property of the person that sold it to you? happycyclist

4:46pm Fri 5 Oct 12

midas says...

happycyclist wrote:
allan1957 wrote: Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it
How the hell can you buy something and it remains the property of the person that sold it to you?
Do you not have a Kindle or itunes?
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan1957[/bold] wrote: Is that £90 for all three types of bin's or price per bin. i was once told that if you purchase a bin it becomes the part of the house you live in so you are unable to remove it to another address if you move house. also the bin is still the property of the council despite you buying it[/p][/quote]How the hell can you buy something and it remains the property of the person that sold it to you?[/p][/quote]Do you not have a Kindle or itunes? midas

5:34pm Fri 5 Oct 12

CapitaBackHander says...

Anyone wish to buy my spare? £30 seems a fair price. Legit spare that council have failed to pickup previously. Stupidly held on to it since charge introduced because obviously more will get stolen now.
Anyone wish to buy my spare? £30 seems a fair price. Legit spare that council have failed to pickup previously. Stupidly held on to it since charge introduced because obviously more will get stolen now. CapitaBackHander

6:31pm Fri 5 Oct 12

useyourhead says...

if you buy one then find your old one i bet they don't refund the cash when they remove the surplus one, and they will if they find out about it. good scam this bin malarky!
if you buy one then find your old one i bet they don't refund the cash when they remove the surplus one, and they will if they find out about it. good scam this bin malarky! useyourhead

6:59pm Sat 6 Oct 12

amazed says...

I would have thought that if you pay Council Tax (as Jack Daniels says) one would be given a bin to start off. If you damage/lose it, then you pay!!
I would have thought that if you pay Council Tax (as Jack Daniels says) one would be given a bin to start off. If you damage/lose it, then you pay!! amazed

11:47am Fri 12 Oct 12

lwg76 says...

It is the council responsibility, The Bins are Council Property, End of.
It is the council responsibility, The Bins are Council Property, End of. lwg76

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