Blackburn taxpayers' £70,000 bill for 'pauper funerals'

7:00am Thursday 4th October 2012 in News Photograph of the Author By Bill Jacobs, Local government reporter

Coun Howard Baker Coun Howard Baker

THE number of ‘pauper's funerals’ in Blackburn with Darwen paid for by the council has more than doubled in four years.

And it has left the borough with a potential burials bill of almost £70,000 a year.

In 2008/2009, the authority paid for 22 ‘public health funerals’ where relatives could not be found, or could not or would not pay. By 2011/2012 that had risen to 57.

At an average cost of £1,217 a burial, that lands taxpayers with a potential cost of £69,369 for the 12 months unless cash can be recovered from the deceased’s estates.

The rise mirrors similar figures nationally, with recent surveys showing the number of individuals, especially over 65s, dying without relatives willing or able to pay rising sharply.

A recent report to Burnley Council revealed a dramatic increase in so-called ‘paupers funerals’ in recent years.

In 2007 it paid for three at a cost of £9,000, of which £7,000 was recovered through the deceased’s estate. That number rose to 13 public funerals in 2010, at a cost of £16,000, of which only £4,800 was recovered.

The figures for Blackburn with Darwen were 22 in 2008/2009, 40 in 2009/ 2010, 32 in 2010/2011 and 57 in 2011/2012.

In contrast, the last public health funeral in wealthier Ribble Valley was in 2009.

Anchor, the older people's charity, recently revealed that more than 21,000 older people a year were dying alone without family or friends willing or able to pay for burials and cremations, with some regions seeing a 14 per cent jump in the last five years.

It showed that over-65s now accounted for 54 per cent of all public-health funerals, with 17,000 in the North West taking place in the past five years.

A second survey found that the rise in such funerals was partly caused by the Government turning down almost half of those who applied for the £1,217 state burial allowance.

Senior Burnley councillor Howard Baker said: “It is an awful situation for somebody to be in.

“I know we have had a few funerals where there are no relatives left to pay recently.

“A lot of the time, the council will pay and then reclaim some or all of the money from the estate.”

Comments (30)

9:25am Thu 4 Oct 12

Dave_P says...

1) Try to destroy the Christian faith and what should be expected?
2) How can people pay when they have no money?
3) Why has the cost of funerals been allowed to rise so sharply?
1) Try to destroy the Christian faith and what should be expected? 2) How can people pay when they have no money? 3) Why has the cost of funerals been allowed to rise so sharply? Dave_P

9:27am Thu 4 Oct 12

mavrick says...

This is a re-run of a story a few days ago.
This is a re-run of a story a few days ago. mavrick

9:29am Thu 4 Oct 12

DirtyHarry says...

I'm all for giving the scroungers and spongers F all but what else are we supposed to do with them, just leave them to rot by the side of the road?
Although I suspect this practice does still go on in certain parts of Blackburn.
I'm all for giving the scroungers and spongers F all but what else are we supposed to do with them, just leave them to rot by the side of the road? Although I suspect this practice does still go on in certain parts of Blackburn. DirtyHarry

9:30am Thu 4 Oct 12

Dave_P says...

LT trying to sway public opinion as usual.. pity it doesn't work too well in a town with no jobs that relies heavily on benefits
LT trying to sway public opinion as usual.. pity it doesn't work too well in a town with no jobs that relies heavily on benefits Dave_P

9:38am Thu 4 Oct 12

useyourhead says...

At 3k each they are hardly 'paupers' funerals, they could be done for half that!
At 3k each they are hardly 'paupers' funerals, they could be done for half that! useyourhead

9:45am Thu 4 Oct 12

useyourhead says...

oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.
oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic. useyourhead

10:05am Thu 4 Oct 12

soap opera says...

useyourhead wrote:
oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.
you try getting a funeral for £1200 and the funeral directors will laugh you out of the building
[quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.[/p][/quote]you try getting a funeral for £1200 and the funeral directors will laugh you out of the building soap opera

10:06am Thu 4 Oct 12

Excluded again says...

Typical of the government's 'savings' programme.

The government 'saves' money by refusing more grants of the state burial allowance. As a result another part of government - local Councils, which recive the majority of their money from central government - has to pick up the bill.

The government clearly believes that if I don't pay the phone bill, but my wife does because I have spent less money, then my family as a whole has saved money.

This is clearly a definition of the word 'saving' with which I was not previously familiar.
Typical of the government's 'savings' programme. The government 'saves' money by refusing more grants of the state burial allowance. As a result another part of government - local Councils, which recive the majority of their money from central government - has to pick up the bill. The government clearly believes that if I don't pay the phone bill, but my wife does because I have spent less money, then my family as a whole has saved money. This is clearly a definition of the word 'saving' with which I was not previously familiar. Excluded again

10:09am Thu 4 Oct 12

jim 2012 says...

you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how jim 2012

10:12am Thu 4 Oct 12

jimpy0 says...

What is the absolute minimum cost of burying someone, if you remove the grabbing funeral agancies from the equation. Why do we still try to observe the religious niceties on someone for whom it doesnt matter. Put em in a van, burn em, spread ashes - job done £50.00 ish
What is the absolute minimum cost of burying someone, if you remove the grabbing funeral agancies from the equation. Why do we still try to observe the religious niceties on someone for whom it doesnt matter. Put em in a van, burn em, spread ashes - job done £50.00 ish jimpy0

10:26am Thu 4 Oct 12

DirtyHarry says...

jim 2012 wrote:
you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup. DirtyHarry

10:43am Thu 4 Oct 12

cathedral citi says...

I learned from a dear Muslim friend of mine, that there are local mosque committees that carry out funerals for free in many cases. And only if a family can afford it, a donation to the mosque is suggested, of which the amount us up to relatives of the deceased. The only outlay, is grave costs, which amount to about £1100. All other services provided by the mosque, potentially for free!

Now, where's my skull cap? Hello imam....
I learned from a dear Muslim friend of mine, that there are local mosque committees that carry out funerals for free in many cases. And only if a family can afford it, a donation to the mosque is suggested, of which the amount us up to relatives of the deceased. The only outlay, is grave costs, which amount to about £1100. All other services provided by the mosque, potentially for free! Now, where's my skull cap? Hello imam.... cathedral citi

10:44am Thu 4 Oct 12

l m h jones says...

big society in action, make sure that people are on the breadline and then tell their relatives they dont qualify for a burial allowance. next step work house, can people take a step back and ask how the government the majority of whom are multi millionaires dare to presume that people have savings to pay for a bloody funeral?
big society in action, make sure that people are on the breadline and then tell their relatives they dont qualify for a burial allowance. next step work house, can people take a step back and ask how the government the majority of whom are multi millionaires dare to presume that people have savings to pay for a bloody funeral? l m h jones

10:49am Thu 4 Oct 12

Chico! says...

DirtyHarry wrote:
jim 2012 wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay".

The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have".

Dirty gets.
[quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay". The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have". Dirty gets. Chico!

12:25pm Thu 4 Oct 12

mys says...

If some poor dear has no money or family the least they can have is a nice send off, stop moaning half these people have worked all there life's and paid there fooking taxes into this country so YES pay for there send off and stop all the mp's filling there own back pockets you scrouges...
If some poor dear has no money or family the least they can have is a nice send off, stop moaning half these people have worked all there life's and paid there fooking taxes into this country so YES pay for there send off and stop all the mp's filling there own back pockets you scrouges... mys

12:29pm Thu 4 Oct 12

useyourhead says...

soap opera wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.
you try getting a funeral for £1200 and the funeral directors will laugh you out of the building
why does there have to be a funeral director involved?
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direct arrangement with the crem (fee 450.00) and a cardboard casket freely available via internet (200.00) private ambulance for the deceased if the directors won't do 'hearse only' service. probably less than 1200.00 even with a small plaque somewhere or entry in the memorial book at the crem.
[quote][p][bold]soap opera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.[/p][/quote]you try getting a funeral for £1200 and the funeral directors will laugh you out of the building[/p][/quote]why does there have to be a funeral director involved? - direct arrangement with the crem (fee 450.00) and a cardboard casket freely available via internet (200.00) private ambulance for the deceased if the directors won't do 'hearse only' service. probably less than 1200.00 even with a small plaque somewhere or entry in the memorial book at the crem. useyourhead

12:36pm Thu 4 Oct 12

notchuffed says...

Seems more like a Dead Line than a Headline.

Reckon all these comments will come to a dead stop.

That's it, I'm off on the Deadwood Stage for a week in Dead Man's Gulch
Seems more like a Dead Line than a Headline. Reckon all these comments will come to a dead stop. That's it, I'm off on the Deadwood Stage for a week in Dead Man's Gulch notchuffed

2:59pm Thu 4 Oct 12

woolywords says...

Are the Borough accounts in such a parsimonious state that this article deserves the column inches it has achieved?
Tell you what, why not get the bean-counter out of his overheated offices, go to the funeral and check for the legendary coin in the casket! The practise of paying the boatman to cross the river is an outdated cost that has neither basis in fact nor in any modern belief system. Of the 4 rivers, the Styx is the only one to make a charge and it's only claim to fame is that it's waters made Achilles near invulnerable
I mean to say, what is left of those old beliefs in our modern Spartan existence, when one can so easily bewail the costs that the poor dead saddle us with?
Perhaps we can raise a local tax on those whom are shuffling off this mortal coil, for excessive wear on the path to Death?
Are the Borough accounts in such a parsimonious state that this article deserves the column inches it has achieved? Tell you what, why not get the bean-counter out of his overheated offices, go to the funeral and check for the legendary coin in the casket! The practise of paying the boatman to cross the river is an outdated cost that has neither basis in fact nor in any modern belief system. Of the 4 rivers, the Styx is the only one to make a charge and it's only claim to fame is that it's waters made Achilles near invulnerable I mean to say, what is left of those old beliefs in our modern Spartan existence, when one can so easily bewail the costs that the poor dead saddle us with? Perhaps we can raise a local tax on those whom are shuffling off this mortal coil, for excessive wear on the path to Death? woolywords

3:15pm Thu 4 Oct 12

DirtyHarry says...

Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
jim 2012 wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay".

The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have".

Dirty gets.
Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?
[quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay". The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have". Dirty gets.[/p][/quote]Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days? DirtyHarry

3:25pm Thu 4 Oct 12

woolywords says...

In a moment that can only be described as serendipity, I came across a business prospectus, just laying idle on my bookshelf, about the declining state of our water quality, rising food costs, mass unemployment and starving children. A US process has been developed to cure all these ills and at the same time should be of interest to the Council for it's ability to raise much needed funds. It describes how the World will reach a tipping point soon, somewhere before 2022, and that they have the possible solution but not the premises to manufacture for global needs, instead they prefer to set up little local factories thus reducing the distribution costs. Why not contact William R. Simonson at Soylent Industries to see if we can't benefit from the local production of Soylent Green?
In a moment that can only be described as serendipity, I came across a business prospectus, just laying idle on my bookshelf, about the declining state of our water quality, rising food costs, mass unemployment and starving children. A US process has been developed to cure all these ills and at the same time should be of interest to the Council for it's ability to raise much needed funds. It describes how the World will reach a tipping point soon, somewhere before 2022, and that they have the possible solution but not the premises to manufacture for global needs, instead they prefer to set up little local factories thus reducing the distribution costs. Why not contact William R. Simonson at Soylent Industries to see if we can't benefit from the local production of Soylent Green? woolywords

3:53pm Thu 4 Oct 12

norah bhatty says...

It is very sad when someone dies with no known relative or next-of-kin. Not everyone has the love and support of a family or friends. When someone in these circumstances die, the council it would appear, has no other option than to accept the costs incurred, but after the funeral, the council surely has every right to take steps to qualify if the deceased has left any estate, and if so, they are entitled to request the reimbursement for the funeral costs, If there is no estate, then there is nothing more they can do. The funeral companies should not expect to make a big profit from a situation such as this, give the deceased a respectable funeral every time, but be aware of the costs involved. There probably are paupers in and round this area - there but for the grace of God, go I.
It is very sad when someone dies with no known relative or next-of-kin. Not everyone has the love and support of a family or friends. When someone in these circumstances die, the council it would appear, has no other option than to accept the costs incurred, but after the funeral, the council surely has every right to take steps to qualify if the deceased has left any estate, and if so, they are entitled to request the reimbursement for the funeral costs, If there is no estate, then there is nothing more they can do. The funeral companies should not expect to make a big profit from a situation such as this, give the deceased a respectable funeral every time, but be aware of the costs involved. There probably are paupers in and round this area - there but for the grace of God, go I. norah bhatty

5:13pm Thu 4 Oct 12

pay no tax says...

Money is only paper pay for the dead.
Money is only paper pay for the dead. pay no tax

5:32pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Chico! says...

DirtyHarry wrote:
Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
jim 2012 wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay".

The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have".

Dirty gets.
Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?
Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre.

She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash.

She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help.

Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh".

Bless.
[quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay". The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have". Dirty gets.[/p][/quote]Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?[/p][/quote]Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre. She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash. She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help. Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh". Bless. Chico!

6:55pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Fire Fly says...

Well I think this article highlights one thing...the overpricing in the funeral game.

The council can do this for less, the fat cat funeral directors can do it for less but no as usual...the public's paying so where's my calculators + button!
Well I think this article highlights one thing...the overpricing in the funeral game. The council can do this for less, the fat cat funeral directors can do it for less but no as usual...the public's paying so where's my calculators + button! Fire Fly

7:46pm Thu 4 Oct 12

eco/pendle says...

years ago paupers were buried in unmarked graves buried on a seperate plot maybe a few people buried in same hole very sad as it was looked down on to be buried a pauper not now in the 21st century a lot will be drug and alcohol related young people whos family are not working so dont have the money to pay for a funeral most old people have saved to bury themselves so few will be elderly.what we need is the cost of funerals to be brought down to an honest leval instead of praying on the bereaved distressed families.a coffin costs £40 but on your bill its $450.00 depending on type of coffin the list goes on.a lot of profit making to me,wonder why it cost Blackburn £70, 000 but only cost Burnley 15k
years ago paupers were buried in unmarked graves buried on a seperate plot maybe a few people buried in same hole very sad as it was looked down on to be buried a pauper not now in the 21st century a lot will be drug and alcohol related young people whos family are not working so dont have the money to pay for a funeral most old people have saved to bury themselves so few will be elderly.what we need is the cost of funerals to be brought down to an honest leval instead of praying on the bereaved distressed families.a coffin costs £40 but on your bill its $450.00 depending on type of coffin the list goes on.a lot of profit making to me,wonder why it cost Blackburn £70, 000 but only cost Burnley 15k eco/pendle

7:50pm Thu 4 Oct 12

cathedral citi says...

Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
jim 2012 wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay".

The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have".

Dirty gets.
Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?
Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre.

She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash.

She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help.

Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh".

Bless.
Lol Chico....... Some ointment and Elastoplast too, please! All that knuckle dragging has a detrimental effect on the Knuckle draggers! Lol xxx

Dingles..... The last hominids still stuck in the stone age......
[quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay". The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have". Dirty gets.[/p][/quote]Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?[/p][/quote]Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre. She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash. She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help. Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh". Bless.[/p][/quote]Lol Chico....... Some ointment and Elastoplast too, please! All that knuckle dragging has a detrimental effect on the Knuckle draggers! Lol xxx Dingles..... The last hominids still stuck in the stone age...... cathedral citi

8:34pm Thu 4 Oct 12

DirtyHarry says...

Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
jim 2012 wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay".

The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have".

Dirty gets.
Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?
Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre.

She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash.

She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help.

Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh".

Bless.
You're a funny guy Chico, I like you! :)
[quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay". The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have". Dirty gets.[/p][/quote]Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?[/p][/quote]Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre. She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash. She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help. Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh". Bless.[/p][/quote]You're a funny guy Chico, I like you! :) DirtyHarry

8:39pm Thu 4 Oct 12

DirtyHarry says...

cathedral citi wrote:
Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
Chico! wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
jim 2012 wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how
I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.
To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay".

The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have".

Dirty gets.
Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?
Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre.

She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash.

She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help.

Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh".

Bless.
Lol Chico....... Some ointment and Elastoplast too, please! All that knuckle dragging has a detrimental effect on the Knuckle draggers! Lol xxx

Dingles..... The last hominids still stuck in the stone age......
Ahhh Cathedral city, welcome to the party!

... Aptly named after the festering substance that lurks beneath the nether regions of your wart ridden, scab covered spam hammer no doubt!
Good job your mum likes a bit of Cathedral on her cracker.
[quote][p][bold]cathedral citi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chico![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DirtyHarry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: you can allways leave your body to medical science just go on line to find out how[/p][/quote]I can't see many medical research facilities wanting too many stiffs from Blackburn, they're mostly riddled with Methelated spirits and soup kitchen soup.[/p][/quote]To be fair, they eat their own dead in Bonleh, as a sacrifice to their god "Jay Ess Ay". The thinking behind it is "if you eat your dad's body, you'll be able to adorn any claims to benefits that they have". Dirty gets.[/p][/quote]Speaking of eating things out, how's your sister these days?[/p][/quote]Good thanks, She's just signed your dad on at the job centre. She told him that he'll never find work while he's surrounded by a fetid miasma of urine & BO, but he still refuses to wash. She also offered to get him help with his grotesque syphallitc facial sores but to no avail. Some people just refuse help. Apparently he just kept whimpering "ah just wunt us moneh t'spend int Big Windoh". Bless.[/p][/quote]Lol Chico....... Some ointment and Elastoplast too, please! All that knuckle dragging has a detrimental effect on the Knuckle draggers! Lol xxx Dingles..... The last hominids still stuck in the stone age......[/p][/quote]Ahhh Cathedral city, welcome to the party! ... Aptly named after the festering substance that lurks beneath the nether regions of your wart ridden, scab covered spam hammer no doubt! Good job your mum likes a bit of Cathedral on her cracker. DirtyHarry

8:45pm Thu 4 Oct 12

jack daniels says...

useyourhead wrote:
soap opera wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.
you try getting a funeral for £1200 and the funeral directors will laugh you out of the building
why does there have to be a funeral director involved?
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direct arrangement with the crem (fee 450.00) and a cardboard casket freely available via internet (200.00) private ambulance for the deceased if the directors won't do 'hearse only' service. probably less than 1200.00 even with a small plaque somewhere or entry in the memorial book at the crem.
If the crem is owned by the council then it's creating a false final cost, which I suppose supports your argument even further
[quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soap opera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: oops, just saw the figure 1200, i was looking at the line that said 3 for 9,000 further on, 1200 seems more realistic.[/p][/quote]you try getting a funeral for £1200 and the funeral directors will laugh you out of the building[/p][/quote]why does there have to be a funeral director involved? - direct arrangement with the crem (fee 450.00) and a cardboard casket freely available via internet (200.00) private ambulance for the deceased if the directors won't do 'hearse only' service. probably less than 1200.00 even with a small plaque somewhere or entry in the memorial book at the crem.[/p][/quote]If the crem is owned by the council then it's creating a false final cost, which I suppose supports your argument even further jack daniels

10:46pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Rimbus says...

Why not float them down the Blakewater on a funeral pyre?
Why not float them down the Blakewater on a funeral pyre? Rimbus

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