Lancashire Council of Mosques calls for condemnation of anti-Islam film

1:00pm Tuesday 2nd October 2012 in News Photograph of the Author By Bill Jacobs, Local government reporter

Monir Ashraf, Salim Mulla, Mohammed Kathrada and Javed Iqba from the Lancashire Council of Mosques Monir Ashraf, Salim Mulla, Mohammed Kathrada and Javed Iqba from the Lancashire Council of Mosques

LANCASHIRE Council of Mosques has written to David Cameron asking the UK Government to condemn the film ‘The Innocence of Muslims’ which has caused the deaths of dozens of people in violent protests.

The council held a press conference at the Bangor Street Community Centre in Blackburn to announce their actions in the wake of the uproar across the Islamic world about the film which it deemed to ‘ridicule, mock and promote half truths regarding the Prophet Muhammad’.

Coun Salim Mulla, deputy mayor of Blackburn with Darwen, said the council condemned the violence that has marked protests about the film and led to more than 28 deaths including those of four US officials who died when the consulate building in Benghazi was attacked and set on fire. He said: “I am disappointed that our Foreign Secretary William Hague has condemned the violence but not the film itself as the US Secretary of State has done.

“We have written to the Prime Minister asking him to do this and to Mr Hague and Home Secretary Theresa May as well. We have spoken to our MP Jack Straw asking him to urge the Government on this.”

In the letter to Mr Cameron, Mr Mulla said: “This film has been made and circulated to infuriate and enrage billions of Muslims worldwide.

“Having seen excerpts of it, I can only say that it has been put together by bigots with the sole aim of offending Muslims. Films such as this are merely designed to play with their emotions.

“As an umbrella organisation representing over a hundred mosques in Lancashire and thousands of Muslims from this part of the United Kingdom, I ask you and your Government to condemn this movie.”

Asked about suggestions that some activists want to hold a protest march against the film in Blackburn, Coun Mulla said: “We thought about a march in Blackburn and spoke to the police but decided that it would be an open invitation to the EDL, BNP and other right-wing groups to cause trouble.”

Comments (47)

1:06pm Tue 2 Oct 12

accy lad and proud says...

They will be banning "Citizen Khan" Next !!!
They will be banning "Citizen Khan" Next !!! accy lad and proud

1:10pm Tue 2 Oct 12

A Darener says...

“Having seen excerpts of it, I can only say that it has been put together by bigots with the sole aim of offending Muslims. And it has succeeded!
We have a saying in this country about sticks and stones etc...Perhaps now is a good time to reflect on that saying. Just as many people if not more are not offended by this film. Most probably don't have an opinion on it. Those that do have a right to express their opinion. What they don't have is a right to kill, torture or terrorist others to make them agree with their opinion. The free world is free to do almost as it pleases. If you do not agree with this right then I suggest you leave the free world and live as you like in a world of your choice.
“Having seen excerpts of it, I can only say that it has been put together by bigots with the sole aim of offending Muslims. And it has succeeded! We have a saying in this country about sticks and stones etc...Perhaps now is a good time to reflect on that saying. Just as many people if not more are not offended by this film. Most probably don't have an opinion on it. Those that do have a right to express their opinion. What they don't have is a right to kill, torture or terrorist others to make them agree with their opinion. The free world is free to do almost as it pleases. If you do not agree with this right then I suggest you leave the free world and live as you like in a world of your choice. A Darener

1:14pm Tue 2 Oct 12

jackmetickler says...

the film didnt cause any deaths.... just the muppets who will use any excuse for violence.
The film does not break any laws in this country so why condem it..

could have had more car chases though!
the film didnt cause any deaths.... just the muppets who will use any excuse for violence. The film does not break any laws in this country so why condem it.. could have had more car chases though! jackmetickler

1:19pm Tue 2 Oct 12

ghanto says...

Salim Mulla and Kathrada and all muslims
You dont like the film which I agree to be removed

But all these things happening is becuase muslim peoples own criminal deeds
They have made modern Islam and rejected the Old truth Islam

Idiot People commits terrorist acts in Britain and America and no scholars have ever raised concerns of killing inoccent children and inocent people etc
why are they not humans????


Look in your own mosques and see how many preist you can see who does something in outerworld and does something behind they even sells their wife for respect

"some" and SOME woman in Burkhas are sinners behind they burkhaas at no time concerns are raised

Cimena broken in 2 peicies years ago but muslims used that old photo to show it happened now and scholars said yes yes ????
Salim Mulla and Kathrada and all muslims You dont like the film which I agree to be removed But all these things happening is becuase muslim peoples own criminal deeds They have made modern Islam and rejected the Old truth Islam Idiot People commits terrorist acts in Britain and America and no scholars have ever raised concerns of killing inoccent children and inocent people etc why are they not humans???? Look in your own mosques and see how many preist you can see who does something in outerworld and does something behind they even sells their wife for respect "some" and SOME woman in Burkhas are sinners behind they burkhaas at no time concerns are raised Cimena broken in 2 peicies years ago but muslims used that old photo to show it happened now and scholars said yes yes ???? ghanto

1:22pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Rumpole says...

The film ‘The Innocence of Muslims’ has not caused the deaths of dozens of people in violent protests, the followers of such a peaceful religion have because of their protests about something they have the freedom of choice not to watch.
The film ‘The Innocence of Muslims’ has not caused the deaths of dozens of people in violent protests, the followers of such a peaceful religion have because of their protests about something they have the freedom of choice not to watch. Rumpole

1:29pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Keith Myath says...

What's it got to do with the UK government? Why on Earth should David Cameron be expected to condemn the film?
What's it got to do with the UK government? Why on Earth should David Cameron be expected to condemn the film? Keith Myath

1:36pm Tue 2 Oct 12

juanbbien says...

I'm sick of bloody Religion the cause of more killings and upset than anything,my Wizard in the skies is better than yours,blah blah,when will people wake up to these fairy stories
I'm sick of bloody Religion the cause of more killings and upset than anything,my Wizard in the skies is better than yours,blah blah,when will people wake up to these fairy stories juanbbien

1:48pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Open_Mind says...

People need to remember with freedom of speech comes responsibility.

If anything happens due to your right to wield the flag of freedom of speech, then you should also be held actionable for any consequences of your exertion.

People, who demand freedom of speech, are compensating for the freedom of thought, which they seldom use.
People need to remember with freedom of speech comes responsibility. If anything happens due to your right to wield the flag of freedom of speech, then you should also be held actionable for any consequences of your exertion. People, who demand freedom of speech, are compensating for the freedom of thought, which they seldom use. Open_Mind

1:51pm Tue 2 Oct 12

ghanto says...

Salim Mulla and Kathrada and all muslims
You dont like the film which I agree to be removed

But all these things happening is becuase muslim peoples own criminal deeds
They have made modern Islam and rejected the Old truth Islam

Idiot People commits terrorist acts in Britain and America and no scholars have ever raised concerns of killing inoccent children and inocent people etc
why are they not humans????


Look in your own mosques and see how many preist you can see who does something in outerworld and does something behind they even sells their wife for respect

"some" and SOME woman in Burkhas are sinners behind they burkhaas at no time concerns are raised

Cimena broken in 2 peicies years ago but muslims used that old photo to show it happened now and scholars said yes yes ????
Salim Mulla and Kathrada and all muslims You dont like the film which I agree to be removed But all these things happening is becuase muslim peoples own criminal deeds They have made modern Islam and rejected the Old truth Islam Idiot People commits terrorist acts in Britain and America and no scholars have ever raised concerns of killing inoccent children and inocent people etc why are they not humans???? Look in your own mosques and see how many preist you can see who does something in outerworld and does something behind they even sells their wife for respect "some" and SOME woman in Burkhas are sinners behind they burkhaas at no time concerns are raised Cimena broken in 2 peicies years ago but muslims used that old photo to show it happened now and scholars said yes yes ???? ghanto

1:58pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Open_Mind says...

juanbbien wrote:
I'm sick of bloody Religion the cause of more killings and upset than anything,my Wizard in the skies is better than yours,blah blah,when will people wake up to these fairy stories
Lower respiratory infections, Diarrhoeal diseases and HIV/AIDS are the biggest killers on earth.....

I would rather live my life as if there is a God/Allah and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.....
[quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I'm sick of bloody Religion the cause of more killings and upset than anything,my Wizard in the skies is better than yours,blah blah,when will people wake up to these fairy stories[/p][/quote]Lower respiratory infections, Diarrhoeal diseases and HIV/AIDS are the biggest killers on earth..... I would rather live my life as if there is a God/Allah and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is..... Open_Mind

2:05pm Tue 2 Oct 12

mavrick says...

Tolerance is obviously missing in modern Islam. This is a free western democracy, It has now come to the time to ask again, If being a Muslim is conducive to living in a free western society. If this film was about any other religion nobody would have made a comment. I wonder how many of these ill educated and brainwashed people have been wound up by their fanatical leaders? If you don't like our freedom then I suggest you return to a muslim country where you will be much happier.
Tolerance is obviously missing in modern Islam. This is a free western democracy, It has now come to the time to ask again, If being a Muslim is conducive to living in a free western society. If this film was about any other religion nobody would have made a comment. I wonder how many of these ill educated and brainwashed people have been wound up by their fanatical leaders? If you don't like our freedom then I suggest you return to a muslim country where you will be much happier. mavrick

2:16pm Tue 2 Oct 12

alf-abett says...

Will we see the same amount of protests for the rape of a sixteen year old girl from these Muslims bigots!!! just a question, we are talking about free speech aren't we?
Will we see the same amount of protests for the rape of a sixteen year old girl from these Muslims bigots!!! just a question, we are talking about free speech aren't we? alf-abett

2:17pm Tue 2 Oct 12

DirtyHarry says...

Such a peaceful, loving and tolerant religion eh?

......I don't recall Christians rampaging through the streets killing people when the Life of Brian was released.

.......Savages
Such a peaceful, loving and tolerant religion eh? ......I don't recall Christians rampaging through the streets killing people when the Life of Brian was released. .......Savages DirtyHarry

2:28pm Tue 2 Oct 12

alf-abett says...

mavrick wrote:
Tolerance is obviously missing in modern Islam. This is a free western democracy, It has now come to the time to ask again, If being a Muslim is conducive to living in a free western society. If this film was about any other religion nobody would have made a comment. I wonder how many of these ill educated and brainwashed people have been wound up by their fanatical leaders? If you don't like our freedom then I suggest you return to a muslim country where you will be much happier.
Well said Maverick but you missed a little bit out on your last sentence. "Return to a Muslim country where you will be much happier" But! poorer in health, financially, housing, schooling and all the other benefits obtained without you subscribing.
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: Tolerance is obviously missing in modern Islam. This is a free western democracy, It has now come to the time to ask again, If being a Muslim is conducive to living in a free western society. If this film was about any other religion nobody would have made a comment. I wonder how many of these ill educated and brainwashed people have been wound up by their fanatical leaders? If you don't like our freedom then I suggest you return to a muslim country where you will be much happier.[/p][/quote]Well said Maverick but you missed a little bit out on your last sentence. "Return to a Muslim country where you will be much happier" But! poorer in health, financially, housing, schooling and all the other benefits obtained without you subscribing. alf-abett

2:45pm Tue 2 Oct 12

kenbro says...

The poorly made film was from America, by a crackpot Egyptian. America, like Britain, has freedom of speech. Why should Cameron condemn it ?
The last thing most terrorists these days shout, as they blow themselves and innocent civilians up is "Allah Akbar".
Please don't tell us about not offending your sensibilities.
The poorly made film was from America, by a crackpot Egyptian. America, like Britain, has freedom of speech. Why should Cameron condemn it ? The last thing most terrorists these days shout, as they blow themselves and innocent civilians up is "Allah Akbar". Please don't tell us about not offending your sensibilities. kenbro

2:47pm Tue 2 Oct 12

HairyBowls says...

accy lad and proud wrote:
They will be banning "Citizen Khan" Next !!!
lol...or that gangster film, Ali Capone lol
[quote][p][bold]accy lad and proud[/bold] wrote: They will be banning "Citizen Khan" Next !!![/p][/quote]lol...or that gangster film, Ali Capone lol HairyBowls

3:51pm Tue 2 Oct 12

midas says...

Its Barry Norman they need, not William Hague!
Its Barry Norman they need, not William Hague! midas

3:53pm Tue 2 Oct 12

midas says...

but if he is going to condem it, can he add W/E and Battleships to his list!
but if he is going to condem it, can he add W/E and Battleships to his list! midas

4:08pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Coeur de Lion says...

If these knuckle dragging, stone age Neanderthals don't like it tough, there are lots of things I don't like but I don't write to Cameron to ask him to ban them. If it is legal and dosnt do anyone physical harm what's the problem? If you don't like the west then move East, if sallim mullah lived in Pakistan he would have had his hands cut off for stealing.
If these knuckle dragging, stone age Neanderthals don't like it tough, there are lots of things I don't like but I don't write to Cameron to ask him to ban them. If it is legal and dosnt do anyone physical harm what's the problem? If you don't like the west then move East, if sallim mullah lived in Pakistan he would have had his hands cut off for stealing. Coeur de Lion

4:12pm Tue 2 Oct 12

shytalk says...

They should have a burn the koran day in protest about the film
They should have a burn the koran day in protest about the film shytalk

4:12pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Izanears says...

As far as the protests by Muslims about the film is concerned, always remember this......first comes the hate, then they find a cause.
Like another poster has said, why hasn't the Lancashire Council of Mosques condemned those in their culture who groom and sexually assault white girls. Not one word was said about it.
As far as the protests by Muslims about the film is concerned, always remember this......first comes the hate, then they find a cause. Like another poster has said, why hasn't the Lancashire Council of Mosques condemned those in their culture who groom and sexually assault white girls. Not one word was said about it. Izanears

4:29pm Tue 2 Oct 12

abbo01 says...

Come on let's get a grip, why should you care or take it so personally?
If someone made a film like this but aimed it at Christians for example we wouldn't really care as its just a cheap film.
It's about time you Muslims stopped living 500 years in the past.
Ever likely countries like Pakistan are in ruins with Muslims believing on such rubbish.
Come on let's get a grip, why should you care or take it so personally? If someone made a film like this but aimed it at Christians for example we wouldn't really care as its just a cheap film. It's about time you Muslims stopped living 500 years in the past. Ever likely countries like Pakistan are in ruins with Muslims believing on such rubbish. abbo01

4:42pm Tue 2 Oct 12

gillbacup says...

The answer is simple DO NOT WATCH THE FILM ! That way you won't be offended simples. I like the way they try to goad the EDL or BNP by saying "We thought about a march in Blackburn and spoke to the police but decided that it would be an open invitation to the EDL, BNP and other right-wing groups to cause trouble.” Leave the EDL & BNP out of your moan the film wasn't made by either group so stop trying to cause problems. If you do not like the western nation then get your lazy arses back ome oh but then you won't have all the benefits of a western life that you hate so much !
The answer is simple DO NOT WATCH THE FILM ! That way you won't be offended simples. I like the way they try to goad the EDL or BNP by saying "We thought about a march in Blackburn and spoke to the police but decided that it would be an open invitation to the EDL, BNP and other right-wing groups to cause trouble.” Leave the EDL & BNP out of your moan the film wasn't made by either group so stop trying to cause problems. If you do not like the western nation then get your lazy arses back ome oh but then you won't have all the benefits of a western life that you hate so much ! gillbacup

4:55pm Tue 2 Oct 12

jack daniels says...

Open_Mind wrote:
People need to remember with freedom of speech comes responsibility. If anything happens due to your right to wield the flag of freedom of speech, then you should also be held actionable for any consequences of your exertion. People, who demand freedom of speech, are compensating for the freedom of thought, which they seldom use.
Why are they mentioning this now, just when the dust is finally settling on the situation.

It almost seems like they are towing the party line.
[quote][p][bold]Open_Mind[/bold] wrote: People need to remember with freedom of speech comes responsibility. If anything happens due to your right to wield the flag of freedom of speech, then you should also be held actionable for any consequences of your exertion. People, who demand freedom of speech, are compensating for the freedom of thought, which they seldom use.[/p][/quote]Why are they mentioning this now, just when the dust is finally settling on the situation. It almost seems like they are towing the party line. jack daniels

5:07pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Robbie says...

Pesonally i agree the movie is very wrong and was always going to prompt a protest from SOME the muslim world, for me both Cameron and Obama should have spoken out and said they disagree with it.

However!!!! the reaction from SOME of the muslim world backs up some of the claims in the movie and does the muslim world no good what so ever, no matter how hard it may be, they should have smiled and said "oh silly western world" and laughed it off, but no they react with violance, murder and riots....
Pesonally i agree the movie is very wrong and was always going to prompt a protest from SOME the muslim world, for me both Cameron and Obama should have spoken out and said they disagree with it. However!!!! the reaction from SOME of the muslim world backs up some of the claims in the movie and does the muslim world no good what so ever, no matter how hard it may be, they should have smiled and said "oh silly western world" and laughed it off, but no they react with violance, murder and riots.... Robbie

5:53pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Jerzei Balowski says...

Open_Mind wrote:
juanbbien wrote: I'm sick of bloody Religion the cause of more killings and upset than anything,my Wizard in the skies is better than yours,blah blah,when will people wake up to these fairy stories
Lower respiratory infections, Diarrhoeal diseases and HIV/AIDS are the biggest killers on earth..... I would rather live my life as if there is a God/Allah and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.....
So your faith is just an insurance policy ! I'm sure your imaginary friend in the sky will be very pleased about that on Judgement Day !
[quote][p][bold]Open_Mind[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]juanbbien[/bold] wrote: I'm sick of bloody Religion the cause of more killings and upset than anything,my Wizard in the skies is better than yours,blah blah,when will people wake up to these fairy stories[/p][/quote]Lower respiratory infections, Diarrhoeal diseases and HIV/AIDS are the biggest killers on earth..... I would rather live my life as if there is a God/Allah and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.....[/p][/quote]So your faith is just an insurance policy ! I'm sure your imaginary friend in the sky will be very pleased about that on Judgement Day ! Jerzei Balowski

5:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

sen c ble says...

You know personally I weren't even aware such film had been made or released until the news coverage of protests.
So 10 out 10 for bringing this into the attention of all, and that's the only compliment I can give you!
You know personally I weren't even aware such film had been made or released until the news coverage of protests. So 10 out 10 for bringing this into the attention of all, and that's the only compliment I can give you! sen c ble

6:26pm Tue 2 Oct 12

trevhd says...

I wonder how many Muslims have even seen this film or are they so brainwashed by Islam they believe everything they are told . Certain parts have been destroyed and turned into Asian ghettos glad I got out of the country the future is bleak no wonder house prices have dropped so much.
I wonder how many Muslims have even seen this film or are they so brainwashed by Islam they believe everything they are told . Certain parts have been destroyed and turned into Asian ghettos glad I got out of the country the future is bleak no wonder house prices have dropped so much. trevhd

6:34pm Tue 2 Oct 12

jim 2012 says...

there are a lot of things i could think of
that need to be band when it come's to
religion and religious beliefs
there are a lot of things i could think of that need to be band when it come's to religion and religious beliefs jim 2012

6:41pm Tue 2 Oct 12

jim 2012 says...

jim 2012 wrote:
there are a lot of things i could think of
that need to be band when it come's to
religion and religious beliefs
sorry its banned not band
[quote][p][bold]jim 2012[/bold] wrote: there are a lot of things i could think of that need to be band when it come's to religion and religious beliefs[/p][/quote]sorry its banned not band jim 2012

7:37pm Tue 2 Oct 12

ste.g says...

and when they dont condemn it are you going to riot?seems to me the council of mosques is trying to incite some religious tentions
and when they dont condemn it are you going to riot?seems to me the council of mosques is trying to incite some religious tentions ste.g

8:06pm Tue 2 Oct 12

sen c ble says...

trevhd wrote:
I wonder how many Muslims have even seen this film or are they so brainwashed by Islam they believe everything they are told . Certain parts have been destroyed and turned into Asian ghettos glad I got out of the country the future is bleak no wonder house prices have dropped so much.
Actually Mill Hill and Ewood wards have seen the greatest drop, followed by Shadsworth and Whitebirk. Brookhouse Bastwell sees no change. Beardwood Revidge and Coporation Park wards have seen a steady rise, and that's according to BwDC statistics!
[quote][p][bold]trevhd[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many Muslims have even seen this film or are they so brainwashed by Islam they believe everything they are told . Certain parts have been destroyed and turned into Asian ghettos glad I got out of the country the future is bleak no wonder house prices have dropped so much.[/p][/quote]Actually Mill Hill and Ewood wards have seen the greatest drop, followed by Shadsworth and Whitebirk. Brookhouse Bastwell sees no change. Beardwood Revidge and Coporation Park wards have seen a steady rise, and that's according to BwDC statistics! sen c ble

9:21pm Tue 2 Oct 12

retired one says...

They don't condemn the preachings of Abu Hamza and his cronies. Don't forget we have to put up and shut up about such matters.
They don't condemn the preachings of Abu Hamza and his cronies. Don't forget we have to put up and shut up about such matters. retired one

9:27pm Tue 2 Oct 12

timeforcommonsense says...

Keith Myath wrote:
What's it got to do with the UK government? Why on Earth should David Cameron be expected to condemn the film?
Because if they can bully the UK government into voicing their oppinion then it shows how much power they have.
[quote][p][bold]Keith Myath[/bold] wrote: What's it got to do with the UK government? Why on Earth should David Cameron be expected to condemn the film?[/p][/quote]Because if they can bully the UK government into voicing their oppinion then it shows how much power they have. timeforcommonsense

9:38pm Tue 2 Oct 12

HairyBowls says...

retired one wrote:
They don't condemn the preachings of Abu Hamza and his cronies. Don't forget we have to put up and shut up about such matters.
well said.
[quote][p][bold]retired one[/bold] wrote: They don't condemn the preachings of Abu Hamza and his cronies. Don't forget we have to put up and shut up about such matters.[/p][/quote]well said. HairyBowls

9:38pm Tue 2 Oct 12

timeforcommonsense says...

abbo01 wrote:
Come on let's get a grip, why should you care or take it so personally?
If someone made a film like this but aimed it at Christians for example we wouldn't really care as its just a cheap film.
It's about time you Muslims stopped living 500 years in the past.
Ever likely countries like Pakistan are in ruins with Muslims believing on such rubbish.
Life of Brian, Monty Python. Absolute classic and funny as hell. NOW KILL THE SCUM................
........
[quote][p][bold]abbo01[/bold] wrote: Come on let's get a grip, why should you care or take it so personally? If someone made a film like this but aimed it at Christians for example we wouldn't really care as its just a cheap film. It's about time you Muslims stopped living 500 years in the past. Ever likely countries like Pakistan are in ruins with Muslims believing on such rubbish.[/p][/quote]Life of Brian, Monty Python. Absolute classic and funny as hell. NOW KILL THE SCUM................ ........ timeforcommonsense

9:43pm Tue 2 Oct 12

HairyBowls says...

Cant wait for the sequel...lets hope it gets as many as rocky!
Cant wait for the sequel...lets hope it gets as many as rocky! HairyBowls

10:33pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Excluded again says...

If the report is accurate, the Lancashire Council of Mosques has asked peacefully for the Prime Minister to condemn the film, not to ban it.

If some people find the film offensive, it is no breach of freedom of speech for them to say so. If people express their view peacefully that is simply them exercising their freedom of speech.

It is up to you whether or not you are persuaded by their arguments.
If the report is accurate, the Lancashire Council of Mosques has asked peacefully for the Prime Minister to condemn the film, not to ban it. If some people find the film offensive, it is no breach of freedom of speech for them to say so. If people express their view peacefully that is simply them exercising their freedom of speech. It is up to you whether or not you are persuaded by their arguments. Excluded again

10:36pm Tue 2 Oct 12

berniep says...

I condemn how these savages have reacted to this film.
Christians have had monty python films making fun of their bible stories but you didnt see those folk rampaging & using it as an excuse to murder.
Muslims need to get a grip & a sense of humour.
I condemn how these savages have reacted to this film. Christians have had monty python films making fun of their bible stories but you didnt see those folk rampaging & using it as an excuse to murder. Muslims need to get a grip & a sense of humour. berniep

10:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

kenbro says...

Yes Berniep, and they also need to get out of the 18th Century. Although I doubt that the Imams will let them.
Yes Berniep, and they also need to get out of the 18th Century. Although I doubt that the Imams will let them. kenbro

11:32pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Rimbus says...

Excluded again wrote:
If the report is accurate, the Lancashire Council of Mosques has asked peacefully for the Prime Minister to condemn the film, not to ban it.

If some people find the film offensive, it is no breach of freedom of speech for them to say so. If people express their view peacefully that is simply them exercising their freedom of speech.

It is up to you whether or not you are persuaded by their arguments.
Conversely, if some people like the film and think it's really good then we have to respect that viewpoint too.
[quote][p][bold]Excluded again[/bold] wrote: If the report is accurate, the Lancashire Council of Mosques has asked peacefully for the Prime Minister to condemn the film, not to ban it. If some people find the film offensive, it is no breach of freedom of speech for them to say so. If people express their view peacefully that is simply them exercising their freedom of speech. It is up to you whether or not you are persuaded by their arguments.[/p][/quote]Conversely, if some people like the film and think it's really good then we have to respect that viewpoint too. Rimbus

12:18am Wed 3 Oct 12

jack daniels says...

retired one wrote:
They don't condemn the preachings of Abu Hamza and his cronies. Don't forget we have to put up and shut up about such matters.
Got it in one. Nothing more to be said.
[quote][p][bold]retired one[/bold] wrote: They don't condemn the preachings of Abu Hamza and his cronies. Don't forget we have to put up and shut up about such matters.[/p][/quote]Got it in one. Nothing more to be said. jack daniels

7:20am Wed 3 Oct 12

halfhearted says...

Why on earth do you the Telegraph keep giving Mulla page space in order that he spouts his nonsence.
I have heard of but not seen this film which was obviously produced to offend,but these people shouldn't watch it then they wouldn't be offended.
Why are they requesting members of our Parliament to act ? it wasn't made by a Brit or produced in the UK.
Everytime Mulla opens his mouth its to denounce the actions of non Muslims,why does he do this ?
Mr Mulla,please write to the British Government and thank them for a change. Yes thank them,for the help we gave Muslims in the former Yugoslavia. Thank them for the help in Iraq,Afgahnistan and Libya.
These were not Christian conflicts but Muslim v Muslim,but it didn't matter we are there to help the underdog.
Whilst you at it write and thank the families of those who have given up their lives in that cause. Write also to those who have been injured in that cause.
That should keeep you busy for the next ten years or so,and keep you out of the local news and prevent you fanning the flames of hatred.
Why on earth do you the Telegraph keep giving Mulla page space in order that he spouts his nonsence. I have heard of but not seen this film which was obviously produced to offend,but these people shouldn't watch it then they wouldn't be offended. Why are they requesting members of our Parliament to act ? it wasn't made by a Brit or produced in the UK. Everytime Mulla opens his mouth its to denounce the actions of non Muslims,why does he do this ? Mr Mulla,please write to the British Government and thank them for a change. Yes thank them,for the help we gave Muslims in the former Yugoslavia. Thank them for the help in Iraq,Afgahnistan and Libya. These were not Christian conflicts but Muslim v Muslim,but it didn't matter we are there to help the underdog. Whilst you at it write and thank the families of those who have given up their lives in that cause. Write also to those who have been injured in that cause. That should keeep you busy for the next ten years or so,and keep you out of the local news and prevent you fanning the flames of hatred. halfhearted

7:49am Wed 3 Oct 12

AnthonyUK says...

The violence against this film was totally unwarranted;anyone involved in those acts of violence should be imprisoned-stuff the dogooders.
The violence against this film was totally unwarranted;anyone involved in those acts of violence should be imprisoned-stuff the dogooders. AnthonyUK

11:31am Wed 3 Oct 12

Rumpole says...

What happens if David Cameron turns round and says, "sorry, the film has got nothing to do with me so i will keep my opinion to myself and neither publicly condemn or condone the making and showing of the film", will we see peaceful riots across the UK?
What happens if David Cameron turns round and says, "sorry, the film has got nothing to do with me so i will keep my opinion to myself and neither publicly condemn or condone the making and showing of the film", will we see peaceful riots across the UK? Rumpole

12:44pm Wed 3 Oct 12

owd nick says...

If Cameron does as they say it's another nail in the coffin of free speech and another small step towards the Islamic state that this once great country is heading to.

I didn't like the film, I thought it was crass, insensitive and possibly created and released to initiate the inevitable orgy of violence that occurs whenever the Muslim imaginary friend is in the least slighted.

And watch it with the sound off, Jesus and Mat Magdalene spring to mind, when that dawns on Christians across the world will there be frenzied riots?
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The really sad thing is the majority of people killed in all these occurrences were Muslims. YCMIU.

I would suggest that once the LCM and the general Muslim community get up on their hind legs and publicly denounce Islamic terrorism, including 9-11 etc, using real words of sorrow and regret not politically correct platitudes then Mr Cameron may be right to do as they request.

Until then the phrase "Hell freezes over" should hold sway.
If Cameron does as they say it's another nail in the coffin of free speech and another small step towards the Islamic state that this once great country is heading to. I didn't like the film, I thought it was crass, insensitive and possibly created and released to initiate the inevitable orgy of violence that occurs whenever the Muslim imaginary friend is in the least slighted. And watch it with the sound off, Jesus and Mat Magdalene spring to mind, when that dawns on Christians across the world will there be frenzied riots? . The really sad thing is the majority of people killed in all these occurrences were Muslims. YCMIU. I would suggest that once the LCM and the general Muslim community get up on their hind legs and publicly denounce Islamic terrorism, including 9-11 etc, using real words of sorrow and regret not politically correct platitudes then Mr Cameron may be right to do as they request. Until then the phrase "Hell freezes over" should hold sway. owd nick

1:14pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Commenting says...

And I thought that Cllr Mulla had gone to ground as an act of contrition for putting his name to so much crap before he was adopted as deputy mayor.
I don't know whether to feel sorry for him and his Muslim friends for living in the past as they are obviously brainwashed and cant think for themselves.
It is this type of attitude that promoted Hitler and all of the nazi atrocities when freedom of speech, print and actions was condemned.
Grow up Mulla and all your Muslim mates and if you don't like something just leave it alone, promotion of something not worth watching just encourages more interest in the subject.
And yes, I have seen the film.
And I thought that Cllr Mulla had gone to ground as an act of contrition for putting his name to so much crap before he was adopted as deputy mayor. I don't know whether to feel sorry for him and his Muslim friends for living in the past as they are obviously brainwashed and cant think for themselves. It is this type of attitude that promoted Hitler and all of the nazi atrocities when freedom of speech, print and actions was condemned. Grow up Mulla and all your Muslim mates and if you don't like something just leave it alone, promotion of something not worth watching just encourages more interest in the subject. And yes, I have seen the film. Commenting

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