Blackburn with Darwen Council’s insurers accidentally send car damage details (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

makaveli96 wrote:
Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

What exactly would you like those on benefits to do? Deal with the insurance claim? Replace the guy's tyre? Wander around Blackburn with a wheelbarrow full of tarmac filling holes in?

All that will achieve is to put people out of work who already work in the insurance industry, mechanics, and highway repair teams. So once THEY'RE on benefits, what would you have THEM do?

happycyclist wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:
Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

What exactly would you like those on benefits to do? Deal with the insurance claim? Replace the guy's tyre? Wander around Blackburn with a wheelbarrow full of tarmac filling holes in?

All that will achieve is to put people out of work who already work in the insurance industry, mechanics, and highway repair teams. So once THEY'RE on benefits, what would you have THEM do?

I think the point here is that NOBODY is fixing ALL the holes in our roads. Thus, getting in extra people to fill the balance of holes that are NOT being filled by paid operatives will not be putting anyone out of work.
As for wandering round with a wheelbarrow full of tarmac filling holes, this is perhaps not a bad idea. That's what used to be done and very efficent it was too.
Rather than a local example where it took 5 visits to fill 3 holes on our street.
Capita man in van to record hole and white spray round 2 holes, then gang with tarmac to fill. 8 days later Capita man again to white spray third hole 3 metres from previous location. Around comes he tarmac gang and fill hole 3. Followed by man in suit and clipboard to tick a box.
Plus the administration back in the office.

If a motorist makes a false claim it is fraud. So why is the reverse that we see here, ie. the insurer lying in an attempt to deny a valid claim, not also fraud ?

happycyclist wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

What exactly would you like those on benefits to do? Deal with the insurance claim? Replace the guy's tyre? Wander around Blackburn with a wheelbarrow full of tarmac filling holes in? All that will achieve is to put people out of work who already work in the insurance industry, mechanics, and highway repair teams. So once THEY'RE on benefits, what would you have THEM do?

All im saying is that the unemployed should work for there money...

EG. wash my car, clean my windows, polish my shoes, make my tea, tarmack my road etc etc......

It makes financial sense and helps me reconcile all the tax im paying in my excel spreadsheet.

Why do you think all people on benefits want to be there? you are obviously ignorant to the real facts of benefits. you also seem to tar everyone with the same brush, As for working for the minimum wage I suggest you try it.
The point of the story is an insurance company has lied to avoid a fair claim. It is high time insurance companies were put under the spotlight, they have got away with not paying fair claims for too long.

I for one drive down that road nearly everyday.

What is being reported here is completley false.

the pothole he is next to in the picture took over 3 weeks to be repaired and i use pothole loosely as it was more a canyon.

even the repair they have done ?(in the picture) is of terrible quality and will still damage cars and i doubt it will last much longer. they need to start repairing potholes properly and not just filling them in with loose gravel with a thin coat of tarmac over it....wont work.

i hope this guy sues them and wins as it might make the council take ownership and repair things properly after all it is what road tax is for!!

It's Keith Chegwin.

I can understand the claim for the tyre but why the loss of income? Can he not hire a car? Use the spare (if his car has got one)? Or even borrow a mate's car? How does he know he was going to earn £300 that day? How much of that is profit?

mavrick wrote:
Why do you think all people on benefits want to be there? you are obviously ignorant to the real facts of benefits. you also seem to tar everyone with the same brush, As for working for the minimum wage I suggest you try it. The point of the story is an insurance company has lied to avoid a fair claim. It is high time insurance companies were put under the spotlight, they have got away with not paying fair claims for too long.

In response to the above my son works full-time for minimum wage He moved away from home in order to do so and pays his rent, his taxes and National Insurance and all his bills without help from any benefit hand-outs whatsoever.

He doesn't have a lot of spare cash and, as such, he's not able to drink or smoke or go out socialising very often.

It can be done.

I am sure he would be able to claim more in benefits than he currently earns if he were not working but he chooses not to.

mavrick wrote:
Why do you think all people on benefits want to be there? you are obviously ignorant to the real facts of benefits. you also seem to tar everyone with the same brush, As for working for the minimum wage I suggest you try it.
The point of the story is an insurance company has lied to avoid a fair claim. It is high time insurance companies were put under the spotlight, they have got away with not paying fair claims for too long.

I think it would better to put the tar on the roads rather than on the unemployed......

makaveli96 wrote:
Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

yes, they should curl them up in the holes and solve two problems at once ;)

News : 'Cap For Unemployed Families On Benefits'.

Burberry by any chance?

Shadsworth are still full of potholes since the floods other month. nothing has been done about it..!!

What do you call an unemployed Afghani?

Bin Laidoff.

elmo maniac wrote:
Shadsworth are still full of potholes since the floods other month. nothing has been done about it..!!

Yes but Shad currently has 100% employment

DON't FEED THE TROLL MAKaveli - saying ALL criminals should be killed on different story which would be perfect word. Fraud is a criminal offence and imo to say something hasn't happened for the only reason of avoiding payout is fraud.
Good luck to the guy on the cost of tyre but forget the £300 2 days lost work. IF I and I suspect all readers had 2 days work lined up for £300 profit then I would EASILY get my tyre fixed within 30 mins!

CapitaBackHander wrote:
DON't FEED THE TROLL MAKaveli - saying ALL criminals should be killed on different story which would be perfect word. Fraud is a criminal offence and imo to say something hasn't happened for the only reason of avoiding payout is fraud. Good luck to the guy on the cost of tyre but forget the £300 2 days lost work. IF I and I suspect all readers had 2 days work lined up for £300 profit then I would EASILY get my tyre fixed within 30 mins!

Eh, so you think criminals should have rights?

I think the bigger point here is the blatent lies told by the council in this case...how can we have confidence in local government when they will mislead on trivial matters like this? What bigger lies are there to be yet exposed?

MJA wrote:
It's Keith Chegwin.

I can understand the claim for the tyre but why the loss of income? Can he not hire a car? Use the spare (if his car has got one)? Or even borrow a mate's car? How does he know he was going to earn £300 that day? How much of that is profit?

For some unforeseen circumstances he could have not gone to work!
The most he will be reimbursed is the tyre and with the threat of suing, the reply will be, 'please feel free'

I agree with those who have questioned his claim for loss of earnings. 2 days for a puncture ? By laying it on he's delayed the legitimate payment for the wrecked tyre.

Jerzei Balowski wrote:
If a motorist makes a false claim it is fraud. So why is the reverse that we see here, ie. the insurer lying in an attempt to deny a valid claim, not also fraud ?

Agreed! my own recent experience with a travel insurance firm upon my mothers death on holiday was similar, they told us they had written evidence from my mothers doctor that she was unfit to travel, her doctor was incensed, he promptly wrote a superb letter which corrected them and they were forced to accept that she had in fact be totally honest (the fee was 380.00 for ten days insurance so they knew she was i higher risk). they will stoop to ANYTHING so read your policies thoroughly, and don't accept a no without fully investigating, scummy is the only way i could describe their actions.

"I read the news today, oh boy, etc, etc," - J. Lennon.

The council repairing pot-holes?!

Don 't be silly.

They 're too busy having meetings about "social media engagement" and sending each other internal emails on whatever vanity project they're wasting tax payers' money on at present, to be concerning themselves with the real world.

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I too have had a recent similar experience with Zurich and Blackburn Borough Council after encountering a pothole on Sunny Bank Road earlier this year. Two Alloy Wheels were damaged, one badly split and bent and the other bent. Strangely enough the pothole was inspected a few days after my loss and repaired the same day, whilst on average the council take approx 3 weeks to action any repairs following inspection, furthermore the entire stretch of road was resurfaced within weeks, see Citizen newspaper article on 13th June 2012, two weeks after my loss. Yet the Council and their insurance company still deny liability for my £500.00 loss. I too am at a loss as what to do next as taking legal action could prove costly any advise from anyone out there with a similar experience would be greatly appreciated.

makaveli96 wrote:

happycyclist wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

What exactly would you like those on benefits to do? Deal with the insurance claim? Replace the guy's tyre? Wander around Blackburn with a wheelbarrow full of tarmac filling holes in? All that will achieve is to put people out of work who already work in the insurance industry, mechanics, and highway repair teams. So once THEY'RE on benefits, what would you have THEM do?

All im saying is that the unemployed should work for there money...

EG. wash my car, clean my windows, polish my shoes, make my tea, tarmack my road etc etc......

It makes financial sense and helps me reconcile all the tax im paying in my excel spreadsheet.

you could also use the unemployed to check your spelling and correct your grammar

cnorth62 wrote:
I too have had a recent similar experience with Zurich and Blackburn Borough Council after encountering a pothole on Sunny Bank Road earlier this year. Two Alloy Wheels were damaged, one badly split and bent and the other bent. Strangely enough the pothole was inspected a few days after my loss and repaired the same day, whilst on average the council take approx 3 weeks to action any repairs following inspection, furthermore the entire stretch of road was resurfaced within weeks, see Citizen newspaper article on 13th June 2012, two weeks after my loss. Yet the Council and their insurance company still deny liability for my £500.00 loss. I too am at a loss as what to do next as taking legal action could prove costly any advise from anyone out there with a similar experience would be greatly appreciated.

...and you actually thought you were racing the French Le Mans did you!

sen c ble wrote:

cnorth62 wrote:
I too have had a recent similar experience with Zurich and Blackburn Borough Council after encountering a pothole on Sunny Bank Road earlier this year. Two Alloy Wheels were damaged, one badly split and bent and the other bent. Strangely enough the pothole was inspected a few days after my loss and repaired the same day, whilst on average the council take approx 3 weeks to action any repairs following inspection, furthermore the entire stretch of road was resurfaced within weeks, see Citizen newspaper article on 13th June 2012, two weeks after my loss. Yet the Council and their insurance company still deny liability for my £500.00 loss. I too am at a loss as what to do next as taking legal action could prove costly any advise from anyone out there with a similar experience would be greatly appreciated.

...and you actually thought you were racing the French Le Mans did you!

sen c ble, Ok I intended to put 'Advice' and not 'Advise' and my Reference to Zurich was to Blackburn Borough Council's Insurance Company not the city, which by the way is in SWITZERLAND not France my friend, perhaps a Geography lesson is in order for you

l m h jones wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

happycyclist wrote:

makaveli96 wrote: Why arnt the people who claim benefits forced to help with such work as this?

What exactly would you like those on benefits to do? Deal with the insurance claim? Replace the guy's tyre? Wander around Blackburn with a wheelbarrow full of tarmac filling holes in? All that will achieve is to put people out of work who already work in the insurance industry, mechanics, and highway repair teams. So once THEY'RE on benefits, what would you have THEM do?

All im saying is that the unemployed should work for there money... EG. wash my car, clean my windows, polish my shoes, make my tea, tarmack my road etc etc...... It makes financial sense and helps me reconcile all the tax im paying in my excel spreadsheet.

you could also use the unemployed to check your spelling and correct your grammar

That's sick and taking it to far! Your talking about a slave society!

cnorth62 wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

cnorth62 wrote:
I too have had a recent similar experience with Zurich and Blackburn Borough Council after encountering a pothole on Sunny Bank Road earlier this year. Two Alloy Wheels were damaged, one badly split and bent and the other bent. Strangely enough the pothole was inspected a few days after my loss and repaired the same day, whilst on average the council take approx 3 weeks to action any repairs following inspection, furthermore the entire stretch of road was resurfaced within weeks, see Citizen newspaper article on 13th June 2012, two weeks after my loss. Yet the Council and their insurance company still deny liability for my £500.00 loss. I too am at a loss as what to do next as taking legal action could prove costly any advise from anyone out there with a similar experience would be greatly appreciated.

...and you actually thought you were racing the French Le Mans did you!

sen c ble, Ok I intended to put 'Advice' and not 'Advise' and my Reference to Zurich was to Blackburn Borough Council's Insurance Company not the city, which by the way is in SWITZERLAND not France my friend, perhaps a Geography lesson is in order for you

Your alloys is not all that's bent!!!

sen c ble wrote:

cnorth62 wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

cnorth62 wrote: I too have had a recent similar experience with Zurich and Blackburn Borough Council after encountering a pothole on Sunny Bank Road earlier this year. Two Alloy Wheels were damaged, one badly split and bent and the other bent. Strangely enough the pothole was inspected a few days after my loss and repaired the same day, whilst on average the council take approx 3 weeks to action any repairs following inspection, furthermore the entire stretch of road was resurfaced within weeks, see Citizen newspaper article on 13th June 2012, two weeks after my loss. Yet the Council and their insurance company still deny liability for my £500.00 loss. I too am at a loss as what to do next as taking legal action could prove costly any advise from anyone out there with a similar experience would be greatly appreciated.

...and you actually thought you were racing the French Le Mans did you!

sen c ble, Ok I intended to put 'Advice' and not 'Advise' and my Reference to Zurich was to Blackburn Borough Council's Insurance Company not the city, which by the way is in SWITZERLAND not France my friend, perhaps a Geography lesson is in order for you

Your alloys is not all that's bent!!!

Who ironed his shirt?

makaveli96 wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

cnorth62 wrote:

sen c ble wrote:

cnorth62 wrote: I too have had a recent similar experience with Zurich and Blackburn Borough Council after encountering a pothole on Sunny Bank Road earlier this year. Two Alloy Wheels were damaged, one badly split and bent and the other bent. Strangely enough the pothole was inspected a few days after my loss and repaired the same day, whilst on average the council take approx 3 weeks to action any repairs following inspection, furthermore the entire stretch of road was resurfaced within weeks, see Citizen newspaper article on 13th June 2012, two weeks after my loss. Yet the Council and their insurance company still deny liability for my £500.00 loss. I too am at a loss as what to do next as taking legal action could prove costly any advise from anyone out there with a similar experience would be greatly appreciated.

...and you actually thought you were racing the French Le Mans did you!

sen c ble, Ok I intended to put 'Advice' and not 'Advise' and my Reference to Zurich was to Blackburn Borough Council's Insurance Company not the city, which by the way is in SWITZERLAND not France my friend, perhaps a Geography lesson is in order for you

Your alloys is not all that's bent!!!

Who ironed his shirt?

I wouldn't worry about that stud too much.
It's always being lifted!

elmo maniac wrote:
Shadsworth are still full of potholes since the floods other month. nothing has been done about it..!!

you mean pot heads not pot holes

over-rovers wrote:

elmo maniac wrote:
Shadsworth are still full of potholes since the floods other month. nothing has been done about it..!!

you mean pot heads not pot holes

Althought there is a lot of pot heads its the pot holes that damage your cars. im supprised the people on benefits havent seen a claim for a broken leg yet!