Residents of Blackburn estate outraged by portrayal in BBC documentary (From Lancashire Telegraph)

alf-abett wrote:
Surprise, surprise! Residents again not seeing what's in front of them, this is one of the reasons why estates such as Shad go rapidly downhill. Look out of your windows and report what you see and don't expect the authorities to have extra sensory perception in tackling the problems.

The way you describe your midden I would have thought that by setting up no go areas for the scum (all areas have them) you would then start to curtail the behaviour of the this minority who always spoil it for the rest of us.

Litter! we all know it's a on going issue yet years ago residents took pride in their own little area outside their front doors and cleaned up fully knowing that within minuets more may appear but they continued to do it along with most of the neighbours leaving streets not spotless but certainly tidy and bright.

If unemployment is the real issue why don't they get off their lazy bums and take a brush and shovel outside and clean the place up after all the tax payers pay for them to manage on a daily basis to an extent so how about "payback time" clean up and put some PRIDE back into the community.

ladybugshorticulture wrote:

alf-abett wrote:
Surprise, surprise! Residents again not seeing what's in front of them, this is one of the reasons why estates such as Shad go rapidly downhill. Look out of your windows and report what you see and don't expect the authorities to have extra sensory perception in tackling the problems.

The way you describe your midden I would have thought that by setting up no go areas for the scum (all areas have them) you would then start to curtail the behaviour of the this minority who always spoil it for the rest of us.

Litter! we all know it's a on going issue yet years ago residents took pride in their own little area outside their front doors and cleaned up fully knowing that within minuets more may appear but they continued to do it along with most of the neighbours leaving streets not spotless but certainly tidy and bright.

If unemployment is the real issue why don't they get off their lazy bums and take a brush and shovel outside and clean the place up after all the tax payers pay for them to manage on a daily basis to an extent so how about "payback time" clean up and put some PRIDE back into the community.

Can I ask you to take a look at this link in response to your comments?
http://www.ladybugsh

orticulture.co.uk/la

dybugs-offsite-cic-h

elped-on-shadsworth-

estate-clean-up/

this was not a one off but happens quarterly.

elmo maniac wrote:
'The programme’s trailer states: “Drugs, anti-social behaviour, family break-ups and joblessness: all part of life on Britain’s poorest housing estates. Filming with families, kids and police, as well as undercover with drug dealers, Panorama spent months on one estate in Blackburn finding out what it’s like to live and grow up there.'

the goverment isnt helping this at all by all the cut backs and making it better off being on benefits, its not the estate fault, the goverment need a big boot up their behind....!!!! also 90% of shad isnt like this at all?

alf-abett wrote:
Surprise, surprise! Residents again not seeing what's in front of them, this is one of the reasons why estates such as Shad go rapidly downhill. Look out of your windows and report what you see and don't expect the authorities to have extra sensory perception in tackling the problems.

The way you describe your midden I would have thought that by setting up no go areas for the scum (all areas have them) you would then start to curtail the behaviour of the this minority who always spoil it for the rest of us.

Litter! we all know it's a on going issue yet years ago residents took pride in their own little area outside their front doors and cleaned up fully knowing that within minuets more may appear but they continued to do it along with most of the neighbours leaving streets not spotless but certainly tidy and bright.

If unemployment is the real issue why don't they get off their lazy bums and take a brush and shovel outside and clean the place up after all the tax payers pay for them to manage on a daily basis to an extent so how about "payback time" clean up and put some PRIDE back into the community.

s_smith wrote:
I dont know about anyone else, but isnt that Frank Gallagher on the right?

jimpy0 wrote:
On any estate there will always be pockets of scum, at one time it was housing policy to put certain peoples onto certain estates. Shad, Birch-hall etc bore the brunt of this in the early 70's council house allocation and once an estate is "seeded" with certain types until the law changes and makes removal easier this situation will always raise its head as generations reach a certain age. Tho once removed from one estate they will be housed on another and that will get dragged down, as many are run by social landlords for the benefit of todays great unwashed. As stated law changes need to be made, if you do not wish to live reasonably within a community you should be forced out. or take outback and shot.

makaveli96 wrote:

s_smith wrote:
I dont know about anyone else, but isnt that Frank Gallagher on the right?

Who, the one with the tash?

bubble of reason wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

s_smith wrote:
I dont know about anyone else, but isnt that Frank Gallagher on the right?

Who, the one with the tash?

Also 20 Lambert and Butler sticking out of pocket????? Bet it is like a Ghost Town Up Shad 9 p.m till 10 p.m... Get Detector Vans round!!!

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
I used to live near Shad years ago and it was bad then and i know for a fact it has only got worse.

Panorama do tend to sensationalise but they will not be far from the truth.

RUinsane wrote:
Find them all a job and you would have peace and harmony. The answer is shut the borders, stop importing slave labour and give everyone a job.
Sorted.

Good call wrote:
Ah yes lets keep foaming at the mouth about "benefit scroungers", lets not look at the benefit scrounging bankers,who pocketed hundreds of billions in corporate welfare,lets not turn our anger on tax dodging billionaires and mega corporations who've dodged billions in tax.We should be screaming like hell about the wars, the funding of Syrian "rebels",government `corruption and cover ups,but we dont because we get angry/scared about thing like benefit scroungers.

Carl_24 wrote:
I can't believe people on this pile of **** estate are already criticising the show before it's been shown I've seen folk on Facebook say 98% on the estate is a lovely place!!!
That person must be high as a kite if they think that because they got that the wrong way round it's 98% of this estate that is nothing but trouble and the FACTS that are stated above -

Street corner drug dealers
Broken families needing help
Drunks
Teenage yobs destined prison
Gangs causing mayhem for a few respectable residents
Hard-pressed police struggling to cope
Boarded up houses and shops linked by rubbish-strewn alleys

All TRUE it p*sses me off when there's drug dealers dealing right across from my house, when ever I go out with my fiancée we get abuse from drunks and drug addicts we're too scared to go out at night, you go out on to the park on rothesay road and there's nothing but needles, condoms and beer cans all over the floor and the chavs racing their motorbikes up and down Arran Trail near enough every day and Twin Valleys are doing absolutely feck all to help look on their site -

"Nuisance neighbours may be in breach of their tenancy agreement. Unless you are suffering from serious acts of violence or harassment, the first thing to do is to speak to your neighbour to resolve things amicably."

You try doing that on here you get told to f**k off and get a bottled smashed over your head.
This estate has rightly earned the nickname chavsworth.
Everything that'll be in this programme tonight just remember THE CAMERA NEVER LIES.

Speaking my mind wrote:
Shadsworth isnt that bad really, just some girl stabbed her fella last week.but thats normal yeah?
No really, its not actually as bad as its made out. i have lived in shadsworth, well next to it for most of my life, i have never had trouble with anyone.

Apart from the lady in the picture at the top left. She should NOT be making out she is a decent person, okay she may go to church and is best friends with the local 'vicor' but she is a far worse person than the people made out to be the bad ones!

Drugs, non-workers, benefit claiments are all over the country and shadsworth unfortunatly has been picked to make some sort of example from.

matty hughes wrote:

Carl_24 wrote:
I can't believe people on this pile of **** estate are already criticising the show before it's been shown I've seen folk on Facebook say 98% on the estate is a lovely place!!!
That person must be high as a kite if they think that because they got that the wrong way round it's 98% of this estate that is nothing but trouble and the FACTS that are stated above -

Street corner drug dealers
Broken families needing help
Drunks
Teenage yobs destined prison
Gangs causing mayhem for a few respectable residents
Hard-pressed police struggling to cope
Boarded up houses and shops linked by rubbish-strewn alleys

All TRUE it p*sses me off when there's drug dealers dealing right across from my house, when ever I go out with my fiancée we get abuse from drunks and drug addicts we're too scared to go out at night, you go out on to the park on rothesay road and there's nothing but needles, condoms and beer cans all over the floor and the chavs racing their motorbikes up and down Arran Trail near enough every day and Twin Valleys are doing absolutely feck all to help look on their site -

"Nuisance neighbours may be in breach of their tenancy agreement. Unless you are suffering from serious acts of violence or harassment, the first thing to do is to speak to your neighbour to resolve things amicably."

You try doing that on here you get told to f**k off and get a bottled smashed over your head.
This estate has rightly earned the nickname chavsworth.
Everything that'll be in this programme tonight just remember THE CAMERA NEVER LIES.

since when has it been called chavsworth if youve got so many problems with the estate why dont you move "chavsorth" aint gunna change any time soon....

Carl_24 wrote:

matty hughes wrote:

Carl_24 wrote:
I can't believe people on this pile of **** estate are already criticising the show before it's been shown I've seen folk on Facebook say 98% on the estate is a lovely place!!!
That person must be high as a kite if they think that because they got that the wrong way round it's 98% of this estate that is nothing but trouble and the FACTS that are stated above -

Street corner drug dealers
Broken families needing help
Drunks
Teenage yobs destined prison
Gangs causing mayhem for a few respectable residents
Hard-pressed police struggling to cope
Boarded up houses and shops linked by rubbish-strewn alleys

All TRUE it p*sses me off when there's drug dealers dealing right across from my house, when ever I go out with my fiancée we get abuse from drunks and drug addicts we're too scared to go out at night, you go out on to the park on rothesay road and there's nothing but needles, condoms and beer cans all over the floor and the chavs racing their motorbikes up and down Arran Trail near enough every day and Twin Valleys are doing absolutely feck all to help look on their site -

"Nuisance neighbours may be in breach of their tenancy agreement. Unless you are suffering from serious acts of violence or harassment, the first thing to do is to speak to your neighbour to resolve things amicably."

You try doing that on here you get told to f**k off and get a bottled smashed over your head.
This estate has rightly earned the nickname chavsworth.
Everything that'll be in this programme tonight just remember THE CAMERA NEVER LIES.

since when has it been called chavsworth if youve got so many problems with the estate why dont you move "chavsorth" aint gunna change any time soon....

Why should I have to move?
it's the trouble makers, druggie's and p*ss heads that should move.

Good call wrote:
Ah yes lets keep foaming at the mouth about "benefit scroungers", lets not look at the benefit scrounging bankers,who pocketed hundreds of billions in corporate welfare,lets not turn our anger on tax dodging billionaires and mega corporations who've dodged billions in tax.We should be screaming like hell about the wars, the funding of Syrian "rebels",government `corruption and cover ups,but we dont because we get angry/scared about thing like benefit scroungers.

Carl_24 wrote:

Carl_24 wrote:

matty hughes wrote:

Carl_24 wrote:
I can't believe people on this pile of **** estate are already criticising the show before it's been shown I've seen folk on Facebook say 98% on the estate is a lovely place!!!
That person must be high as a kite if they think that because they got that the wrong way round it's 98% of this estate that is nothing but trouble and the FACTS that are stated above -

Street corner drug dealers
Broken families needing help
Drunks
Teenage yobs destined prison
Gangs causing mayhem for a few respectable residents
Hard-pressed police struggling to cope
Boarded up houses and shops linked by rubbish-strewn alleys

All TRUE it p*sses me off when there's drug dealers dealing right across from my house, when ever I go out with my fiancée we get abuse from drunks and drug addicts we're too scared to go out at night, you go out on to the park on rothesay road and there's nothing but needles, condoms and beer cans all over the floor and the chavs racing their motorbikes up and down Arran Trail near enough every day and Twin Valleys are doing absolutely feck all to help look on their site -

"Nuisance neighbours may be in breach of their tenancy agreement. Unless you are suffering from serious acts of violence or harassment, the first thing to do is to speak to your neighbour to resolve things amicably."

You try doing that on here you get told to f**k off and get a bottled smashed over your head.
This estate has rightly earned the nickname chavsworth.
Everything that'll be in this programme tonight just remember THE CAMERA NEVER LIES.

since when has it been called chavsworth if youve got so many problems with the estate why dont you move "chavsorth" aint gunna change any time soon....

Why should I have to move?
it's the trouble makers, druggie's and p*ss heads that should move.

I'm one of the decent one's that is trying to make this a better place to live.

doomchanter wrote:
Well said Good Call. A nation that is led by a monarchy cannot expect its people to aspire to anything other than a scroungers lifestyle. I am a taxpayer who resents supporting the non-working class scum at both ends of the social spectrum. They are all in my opinion (and by definition) parasites, living on the backs of the working class.

allan1957 wrote:
Sill can afford mobile phones,game consoles,and 40" tvs despite saying we are struggling to buy food etc

makaveli96 wrote:

s_smith wrote:
I dont know about anyone else, but isnt that Frank Gallagher on the right?

Who, the one with the tash?

Chris P Bacon wrote:

Good call wrote:
Ah yes lets keep foaming at the mouth about "benefit scroungers", lets not look at the benefit scrounging bankers,who pocketed hundreds of billions in corporate welfare,lets not turn our anger on tax dodging billionaires and mega corporations who've dodged billions in tax.We should be screaming like hell about the wars, the funding of Syrian "rebels",government `corruption and cover ups,but we dont because we get angry/scared about thing like benefit scroungers.

That's a bit 1990s isn't it? now that there's no hiding place for the scrounging bankers, the benefit scroungers have no carcass to hide behind. You can forget trying to side-track the discussion about garbage benefit swindlers on either side by bringing nonsense about Syria in to it. It's a non starter that those hiding behind their Giros wish would conceal their duplicities.

It is EXACTLY the existence of the Welfare State and the laziness it's produced that's led to scenes we're looking forward to seeing tonight.

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
Did i hear right ? Mother of 2 on £1100 a month on benefits . Beats working .

Good call wrote:
Ah yes lets keep foaming at the mouth about "benefit scroungers", lets not look at the benefit scrounging bankers,who pocketed hundreds of billions in corporate welfare,lets not turn our anger on tax dodging billionaires and mega corporations who've dodged billions in tax.We should be screaming like hell about the wars, the funding of Syrian "rebels",government `corruption and cover ups,but we dont because we get angry/scared about thing like benefit scroungers.

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
Did i hear right ? Mother of 2 on £1100 a month on benefits . Beats working .

Good call wrote:
Ah yes lets keep foaming at the mouth about "benefit scroungers", lets not look at the benefit scrounging bankers,who pocketed hundreds of billions in corporate welfare,lets not turn our anger on tax dodging billionaires and mega corporations who've dodged billions in tax.We should be screaming like hell about the wars, the funding of Syrian "rebels",government `corruption and cover ups,but we dont because we get angry/scared about thing like benefit scroungers.

Lancistan wrote:
The environment is not bad. Any problems stems from the selfish, low iq adults. The kids their are fine, it is the negative adults who are the problem.

VicLou wrote:
Im thinking I may have to work more than my full time hours to pay more tax to keep the likes of Alwyn in the life she is accustomed to .... she cant possibly get up early to go to work!!

Michael@ClitheroeSin
ce58 wrote:

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
Did i hear right ? Mother of 2 on £1100 a month on benefits . Beats working .

Probably pays no rent as well

district01 wrote:
I watched the programme tonight and although fully aware of the difficulties within that community feel sad that everyone within that community should have to put up with all of that unease. Total dismay and anger but little surprised as to how poorly the leaders of Blackburn with Darwen council have dealt with these problems over the years. It’s not as though they are strangers to these facts is it? The now happily retired Jack Straw and his politically favoured crew should do well to take a walk or even a taxi to see for themselves what little they have done for the people who live there. Those very well paid people can blame nobody but themselves and little wonder few of them actually live in Blackburn. They are a total disgrace!

Mr Perfekt wrote:
Shadsworth is the most Scallyist place in Blackburn. They are all lazy **** and need a kick up the backside. Shadsworth estate is what gives BLACKburn a bad name. Flatten shad and replace it with Asians and mosques and businesses and the trash that's already there can do one to Rishton where the rest of em are.

Just my thoughts.......

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:
The lady in the picture is Mary not Frank Gallagher and she has done a good job in the community Centre putting in lots of (unpaid) hours in to try and get some community spirit up Shadsworth. There are some good people on the Shadsworth estate and yes there are some bad like all council estates across Lancashire...I just wish the programe would have shown some good people that live here on the Shadsworth estate

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:
where do you ive Mr Perfect? some people dont have a choice where they live. We make the most out of where we live.

GIBUCK wrote:
Thank god, I love fact based programmes ..... Street corner drug dealers Broken families needing help Drunks Teenage yobs destined prison Gangs causing mayhem for a few respectable residents Hard-pressed police struggling to cope Boarded up houses and shops linked by rubbish-strewn alleys .........THAT IS FACT ................

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:
The lady in the picture is Mary not Frank Gallagher and she has done a good job in the community Centre putting in lots of (unpaid) hours in to try and get some community spirit up Shadsworth. There are some good people on the Shadsworth estate and yes there are some bad like all council estates across Lancashire...I just wish the programe would have shown some good people that live here on the Shadsworth estate

roversjeff wrote:
Typical BBC - Full of Lies!!!

Black Car Guy. wrote:
I wonder if they will show Shadsworth House. It was an old folks home but now it is full of peados and odd balls. Maybe the drug dealers are selling to them in the house?

Luke_Skywalker wrote:
Even the cats and dogs go around in pairs around that estate.

RUinsane wrote:
Find them all a job and you would have peace and harmony. The answer is shut the borders, stop importing slave labour and give everyone a job.
Sorted.

callisha wrote:

Lynn_Blackburn wrote: The lady in the picture is Mary not Frank Gallagher and she has done a good job in the community Centre putting in lots of (unpaid) hours in to try and get some community spirit up Shadsworth. There are some good people on the Shadsworth estate and yes there are some bad like all council estates across Lancashire...I just wish the programe would have shown some good people that live here on the Shadsworth estate

they did film some decent folk but never used the footage. they filmed myself and family of seven , our family business which employs four in the office and out on site and our home etc. we didnt show up ourselves our neighbours or the the area we live in we told the truth but it didnt serve the BBC's purpose. i live a minutes walk from "ollies" house .all my neighbours own there own houses and are employed we are not thugs from the gutter just honest people trying our best . .

Plasticbertrand wrote:
After watching Panarama my views of Chief Supt Bob Eastwood have been confirmed. The sad thing is that our community charge is paying for this inaffective joker to hide in his office and ignore the cesspitt that is forming outside the walls of his shiny headquarters at Greenbank. Middlesborough got Ray Mallon to sort their streets out and we the equivalent of Mr Humphries in a Police uniform.

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:
The lady in the picture is Mary not Frank Gallagher and she has done a good job in the community Centre putting in lots of (unpaid) hours in to try and get some community spirit up Shadsworth. There are some good people on the Shadsworth estate and yes there are some bad like all council estates across Lancashire...I just wish the programe would have shown some good people that live here on the Shadsworth estate

DEO VOLENTE wrote:
As we all know Shadsworth Estate is nowhere near the worst estate in the U.K. I can tell you from personal experience that there are far worse areas and far worse estates in Preston, Manchester, Nottingham, Birmingham, Liverpool, London and many other U.K. cities. Yes Shadsworth has its share of people who claim benefits, commit crime and dont want to contribute to society. On the other hand Shadsworth also has decent, honest educated, working people whose children dont get involved in criminality. Some of the comments posted thus far seem to be "tarring everyone with the same brush" which is unfair.The question that should be asked is why did the BPC choose to come to Blackburn? This programme is about "Deflection and Diversion" in short "Smoke and Mirrors". As we all know there are serious crimes being committed in Blackburn concerning the "grooming" of young White girls. These serious crimes have given certain "communities" a very bad press. There are also serious problems with drug dealing and the supply of class A drugs in Blackburn which have also given certain "communities" a very bad press. If you add to those issues Terrorism, White flight and the fact the town is "divided" by race, religion and colour the decision by the BBC to concentrate on an exclusively White estate in Blackburn with a bit of low level drug dealing, litter and ASB is highly questionable. Surely with all the serious criminality that exists in this "Northern ill Town" the BPC could have investigated some of the more pressing issues facing the town. Or would that give the game away completely? Easier to stick to portraying White working class people as criminals and scum, much easier. Shameless? the only shame evident here lies with the BPC, who in my honestly held opinion are too cowardly to address real crime and the real criminals.We deserve better we really do.

Deus Vobiscum

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
Did i hear right ? Mother of 2 on £1100 a month on benefits . Beats working .

ladybugshorticulture wrote:
There is a community led project at Shadsworth off Oban drive GREENSLEEVES. It is for the community, led by the community. If the community wanted this facility then why does the project not have more support from the residents?
Greensleeves is a new allotment growing project which is open to everyone of all ages. There are some teaching sessions for bitesize learning chunks to teach them how to garden and look after their own space. These are heavily attended by the young children but no adults.

There is a small shop where produce grown on the site is for sale, but unless there is more support for this 'project' which the estate wanted then it will be 'another waste of money' as someone else said.

SHADSWORTH ...... residents, if you all argue against this slander to yourselves then where are you? Why do you not stand up and make a difference, when offered help, funding and support do you not grab it with both hands and get out there and change where you live?
You might find its far more interesting than Jeremy Kyle !!!!

If you want to make the outside world change their opinion of you then educate the minority of you that are causing these problems.

I will probably be slated for writing this however, the truth hurts. The problems on the estate are real and only standing together and changing your ways will make the rest of the world listen that your not everything they say you are.

I say we invite the TV cameras back in 18 months and YOU all prove us wrong?????

Anyone interested in GREENSLEEVES please contact Ian McHugh on 07714999382 for more information and the gardening club is Tuesday 1-4pm, Childrens gardening club, over 8's is Thursday 3.30 - 5.

darwen_celeb wrote:
And MP Jack Straw said: “Shadsworth is improving and I have visited far, far worse estates elsewhere in the country.”

The phrase 'best looking in the burns ward' springs to mind.

slimmy wrote:

darwen_celeb wrote:
And MP Jack Straw said: “Shadsworth is improving and I have visited far, far worse estates elsewhere in the country.”

The phrase 'best looking in the burns ward' springs to mind.

the stoops estate, burnley wood , danehouse, stoneyholme.........

... calon estate, ingol, lower penwortham.
then back to blackburn, whitebirk, highercroft, green lane, redlam, whalley range, audley range. all these have a higher crime rate than the shadsworth estate.
check for one selves check where you live, then come back slagging of the shadsworth estate !!!!!!!
i lived on here for 40 yrs i'm fine my kids are fineboth kids work they weren't in any trouble.
i've worked since i left school.

the programme only hand picked the worst people of the estate.... did you see it showing any decent people ? ( YES THE MAJORITY OF THE ESTATE IS VERY DECENT)

yes there is drugs, yes there is asb yes SOME people don't or even wont work.
doesn't every estate have these people ????????????

Hendog wrote:
If anybody watched the programme it was actually the residents who slated the area and said they wanted to leave nobody else. Has nobody actually thought that Shadsworth's unfortunate similalarity to the name Chatsworth might have been some of the driving force behind choosing that area?

This social document or whatever youd like to call it highlighted nothing more than there are sections of society whereby children are doomed to fail without central intervention. The cause of each and every problem on that estate was a result of parenting.
Children never punished, unwillingness to work, "i am owed this" mentality, youth crime, drugs, alcohol abuse. etc. etc.

Now, whether other social and economical factors then exacerbate that is up up for discussion but undeniabley these inherently poor individuals all had enough money for the old addage of sky tv, drugs and alcohol. That is not poverty it is ridicolously selfish budgeting which will cause the helpless (i.e. the children) to be doomed to a life of sitting in the corner of that room smoking a fag whilst your kids run around the estate..."n that!"

Marky mark wrote:

bubble of reason wrote:

makaveli96 wrote:

s_smith wrote:
I dont know about anyone else, but isnt that Frank Gallagher on the right?

Who, the one with the tash?

Also 20 Lambert and Butler sticking out of pocket????? Bet it is like a Ghost Town Up Shad 9 p.m till 10 p.m... Get Detector Vans round!!!

"quality"

grabbi5 wrote:

VicLou wrote:
Im thinking I may have to work more than my full time hours to pay more tax to keep the likes of Alwyn in the life she is accustomed to .... she cant possibly get up early to go to work!!

Im doing overtime this weekend so i hope the extra tax i'll be paying will go to help this poor lady out!!

RUinsane wrote:

Michael@ClitheroeSin

ce58 wrote:

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
Did i hear right ? Mother of 2 on £1100 a month on benefits . Beats working .

Probably pays no rent as well

Probably has blue tattoos and a dog called Tyson.

allan1957 wrote:

BritainfortheBritish wrote:
Did i hear right ? Mother of 2 on £1100 a month on benefits . Beats working .

Yep thats my monthly wage for working 39 hours a week

Fire Fly wrote:
Apologies for going on....Alwyn the lazy witch doesn't work, she chose to have 4 kids & then needs help from special care agents, the social to the de clutter n decorate....WTF am I missing, how come I have to go to work so I can decorate...i'm a single parent! I work, I pay my bills n whilst on a low wage get v little state help....my bloods boiling at the injustice. Alwyn wants euthanising!!!

pinkpjs wrote:
In my opinion the programme was a deliberately constructed piece of political propaganda by the BBC who targeted residents of a northern council estate to support this government's aim to target and blame poor people for its 'austerity' cuts. It appears to have been designed to appeal to those who take as gospel what is written in other right wing media without question. If it sets residents against each other then this would appear to further compound the 'Broken Britain' myth, whereas, the truth, it seems is that many living in Shadsworth, in common with ordinary people across the country, are simply Broke in Britain.

pinkpjs wrote:
In my opinion the programme was a deliberately constructed piece of political propaganda by the BBC who targeted residents of a northern council estate to support this government's aim to target and blame poor people for its 'austerity' cuts. It appears to have been designed to appeal to those who take as gospel what is written in other right wing media without question. If it sets residents against each other then this would appear to further compound the 'Broken Britain' myth, whereas, the truth, it seems is that many living in Shadsworth, in common with ordinary people across the country, are simply Broke in Britain.

Shear_Brilliance wrote:
I hate Shad horrible place I agree with the BBC to be fair the place is riddled with 12 year old kids fighting and drinking, smack heads, general unpleasant people and unkept houses.

Areas like Audley, Shadsworth and Highercroft make the rest of Blackburn look like a hole.

Start looking after yourselves and your houses for god sake I'm embaressed to say I used to live 5 minutes away.

Ladysadie wrote:
I used to babysit up Shad a few years back, I kept the door locked at all times and did not relax until I was well out of the area on my way home afterwards, thanking my stars I didn't live there!

happycyclist wrote:
Well done Jessie Volkert's parents. You must be really proud.

s_smith wrote:
I dont know about anyone else, but isnt that Frank Gallagher on the right?

turd moor wrote:
most of shadsworth have/will probally been on jeremy kyle at some point in their lives
this just some's it up diffrently

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:
The lady in the picture is Mary not Frank Gallagher and she has done a good job in the community Centre putting in lots of (unpaid) hours in to try and get some community spirit up Shadsworth. There are some good people on the Shadsworth estate and yes there are some bad like all council estates across Lancashire...I just wish the programe would have shown some good people that live here on the Shadsworth estate

Lilyanny wrote:
I think you're all pretty pathetic. Well, those making nasty comments anyway. I don't live in shad but I have family and know plenty of people that do. They are all respectable people! Every area has its problems, even the snotty posh ones. It doesn't mean everybody that lives there should be condemned. Take a look at yourself before you judge others, yes? I'll agree, olwyn is a vile, dirty, lazy, nasty woman, and she clearly doesnt give a monkeys about anything or anyone. As long as she's got her A.D'S, weed and alcohol she's happy. Her kids are just as bad. Thinking about it, the documentary was mostly about her. We didn't see any positive things. My Mary does lots for the community and what does she get for thanks? Dicks like some of you taking the **** out of her. If you're saying your hair doesn't go funny in the wind then you're not normal. My Mary is beautiful and an inspiration so how about you all go back to your lives and keep your noses out?

AnthonyUK wrote:
TVH should get rid of the antisocial families and druggies and weedheads off it's housing stock and refuse to rehome them!

Black Car Guy. wrote:

AnthonyUK wrote: TVH should get rid of the antisocial families and druggies and weedheads off it's housing stock and refuse to rehome them!

Where will they go? It is their human rights to stay there and ruin the estate. Also i bet they,re a social workers wet dream.

AnthonyUK wrote:

Black Car Guy. wrote:

AnthonyUK wrote: TVH should get rid of the antisocial families and druggies and weedheads off it's housing stock and refuse to rehome them!

Where will they go? It is their human rights to stay there and ruin the estate. Also i bet they,re a social workers wet dream.

Oh and what about the rights of those who shouldn't have to put up with it? They don't count do they!

mishno5 wrote:
Three strikes and TVH kicks them out, I don't think so I know a family on shad who have had over 8 warnings and they are still here. They get their wrist slapped when they start then they go quiet for a while then it starts up again. so the 3 strikes policy is rubbish.
We have lived up Chavsworth for 11 years now and i've hated every min of it. drug dealing outside my house, dealing when is daylight and kids are about. fighting in the street, usually outside or near my home by drunken mindless yobs. But we can't move we bought this house, no one will ever want to buy a house up here unless Twin Valleys sorts out their estate. It's their fault they are the landlords hey should sort it out.
And yes all of the program was true.

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:

mishno5 wrote:
Three strikes and TVH kicks them out, I don't think so I know a family on shad who have had over 8 warnings and they are still here. They get their wrist slapped when they start then they go quiet for a while then it starts up again. so the 3 strikes policy is rubbish.
We have lived up Chavsworth for 11 years now and i've hated every min of it. drug dealing outside my house, dealing when is daylight and kids are about. fighting in the street, usually outside or near my home by drunken mindless yobs. But we can't move we bought this house, no one will ever want to buy a house up here unless Twin Valleys sorts out their estate. It's their fault they are the landlords hey should sort it out.
And yes all of the program was true.

That is what i was told off Twin Valley maybe i was lied too. I too own my own home it's been on the market since last november. I have no chance of selling it.The only problem we have spent too much money on it. two houses just been sold pn rothsey road for 40 grand so no doubt they will be rented out to more yobs!!

Lynn_Blackburn wrote:
TVH have a policy three strikes and your out. The trouble makers just get moved on to other estates.