Fears over benefits for East Lancashire pensioners (From Lancashire Telegraph)

“In reality, the only ones who have escaped the cuts are the rich.”

Well obviously, seeing as the rich are not dependent on the public purse. So why's he against means-testing when that targets help at the poorest?

Pensioners are one of the biggest set of abusers of the welfare system, and continually get a free pass whilst living in big houses, multiple yearly holidays and getting winter heating bills paid for them is the biggest farce in todays society.

jimpy0 wrote:
Pensioners are one of the biggest set of abusers of the welfare system, and continually get a free pass whilst living in big houses, multiple yearly holidays and getting winter heating bills paid for them is the biggest farce in todays society.

Everyone could get a decent income - you included - if the super rich paid the rate of taxes they used to when I was a young man, and if some of them started paying taxes at all.

jimpy0 wrote:
Pensioners are one of the biggest set of abusers of the welfare system, and continually get a free pass whilst living in big houses, multiple yearly holidays and getting winter heating bills paid for them is the biggest farce in todays society.

You're referring of course to the Royal scroungers

Marsdog, I hope that one day you will be subject to the means test you seem to think is such a great tool to target those who need help. pensioners in particular the poorer ones, would not subject themselves to such humiliation.

Pensioners are the first port of call by all governments when it comes to cuts . Many die or suffer from cold related illness every year because they cannot afford heating. This government cut their heating allowance as soon as they came into power. Pensioners have one of the lowest pensions in Europe .

Pensioners have worked all their lives to deserve a decent standard of living .Some still here have fought in wars to preserve Britain.
Now we are full of immigrants / asylum seekers getting at least 3 fold in benefits a week than pensioners are getting . We are sending billions abroad in aid .
Meanwhile our own are suffering and dying.
This cannot be right !

BritainfortheBritish says... Pensioners have worked all their lives to deserve a decent standard of living .Some still here have fought in wars to preserve Britain..

I am affraid to say that some of todays pensioners were not actually born in the war years if your 65 today you were born in 1947 and if you look at the history books you will also find that those who lived during the 50's and 60's had the best of everything and indeed experienced the most peaceful times on earth. And as the years roll by its only if not already a matter of time when some pensioners will have never worked at all. I have met a few people who are making it their goal in life to have got to pension age without working a day in their lives. The we fought in the war CRIES is now out of date as an argument for living off the backs of everyone else. We are now in times when we are paying people to be on benefits from cradle to grave and that cannot be right or sustainable. The industrial revolution came to a grinding halt years ago as demonstrated in the opening of the London games. All the people who WERE needed to build and run all the factories mills and mines are no longer needed I am affraid to report and there is'nt enough to go round anymore. The new crises that is about to hit us all will see a lot of people mainly the old and disabled suffer the worse and the death toll from those two catagories will be astranomical. Food and energy prices are about to double and I have a genuine fear of despair being cast across all global shores.

STOCK UP ON LONG SHELF LIFE FOODS BEFORE OCTOBER BEGINS YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.. The worse of it as yet to come...

And yet immigrants can still live off us before our own . A travesty !!

mavrick wrote:
Marsdog, I hope that one day you will be subject to the means test you seem to think is such a great tool to target those who need help. pensioners in particular the poorer ones, would not subject themselves to such humiliation.

I too hope to be subject to means tested benefits. Why should the rich receive as much as the poor? Is filling in a form so great a humiliation? If it is, then perhaps folk aren't as poor as they think.

Info-warrior wrote:
BritainfortheBritish says... Pensioners have worked all their lives to deserve a decent standard of living .Some still here have fought in wars to preserve Britain..

I am affraid to say that some of todays pensioners were not actually born in the war years if your 65 today you were born in 1947 and if you look at the history books you will also find that those who lived during the 50's and 60's had the best of everything and indeed experienced the most peaceful times on earth. And as the years roll by its only if not already a matter of time when some pensioners will have never worked at all. I have met a few people who are making it their goal in life to have got to pension age without working a day in their lives. The we fought in the war CRIES is now out of date as an argument for living off the backs of everyone else. We are now in times when we are paying people to be on benefits from cradle to grave and that cannot be right or sustainable. The industrial revolution came to a grinding halt years ago as demonstrated in the opening of the London games. All the people who WERE needed to build and run all the factories mills and mines are no longer needed I am affraid to report and there is'nt enough to go round anymore. The new crises that is about to hit us all will see a lot of people mainly the old and disabled suffer the worse and the death toll from those two catagories will be astranomical. Food and energy prices are about to double and I have a genuine fear of despair being cast across all global shores.

STOCK UP ON LONG SHELF LIFE FOODS BEFORE OCTOBER BEGINS YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.. The worse of it as yet to come...

And yet i have met within the last 2 years several ex RAF and an SAS soldier and many others and some land army women . Seems some are still knocking about and being crapped on .