Pendle MP demands new dog attack laws (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Pendle MP demands new dog attack laws
7:42am Saturday 21st July 2012 in News
EAST Lancashire MP Andrew Stephenson has demanded new laws to prosecute people whose dogs roam wild on private property.
The Pendle Tory used a Commons debate to urge the government to legislate to protect canvassers, postmen and others who deliver to homes from out of control canines.
In East Lancashire 22 posties were bitten by dogs in the year to April 2012.
His mother, Ann, also has the end of her finger bitten off delivering election leaflets in Colne prior to the local elections.
Mr Stephenson told rural affairs minister Jim Paice: “Although I have publicly supported changing the dangerous dogs legislation for some time, the issue took on personal significance for me in May.
“The dog bit my mother’s finger so hard that it broke the bone, and it also bit off the nail and the end of the finger. She was kept in hospital for several days.
“Something must be done to protect postal workers, volunteers and the public from dangerous dogs, and to remind owners of their responsibilities.
“Last October, I read about a Staffordshire bull terrier attacking a 10-year-old in Pendle after the dog had been given lager to drink.
“Of course, because of the way the current law works, no one was punished.
“There is widespread agreement that the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 is one of the worst pieces of legislation in history.
“A key respect in which the legislation got it wrong was in focusing on breeds of dog, when the real problem was and is irresponsible dog owners. However, surely one of the other biggest mistakes was that the law did not cover attacks that happen on private property.”
Mr Paice replied: “I am very sorry to hear about the dog attack on your mother. I am pleased to hear that she is recovering, even if she will bear the scars for the rest of her life.
“The problems with dogs are in fact a problem with the owner, either because they do not understand how to control the dog or have the desire to use it as a form of weapon. That is why proposals will include measures on the use of a dog as a weapon.
“The most important next step is to extend the criminal offence of allowing a dog to be dangerously out of control on private property, which addresses his point about postmen and the many other people who have a legitimate right to come on to one’s property.”
Comments(12)
useyourhead
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9:48am Sat 21 Jul 12
RUinsane
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1:01pm Sat 21 Jul 12
pdb951
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11:13pm Sat 21 Jul 12
pdb951
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11:13pm Sat 21 Jul 12
coates warder
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9:07am Sun 22 Jul 12
2 for 5p
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9:19am Sun 22 Jul 12
outofyourmind
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9:37pm Sun 22 Jul 12
my point is every law is one more freedom gone? what next. For a start its your own land so you can do anything you like on it, or whats the point in owning land?.
What next?, then it will be no ponds the waterfall makes to much noise, and the legitimate kids that tresspass might drown?.
(well no ones going to convict 9 year old of tresspass iTs what thay do! which then makes them legitimate)
Then you have to cut down trees, tresspassers might get hurt falling out of them!. Or your fence is broken and you get done for dangerous edgeges. Then you have too light your pathways in case a legitimate someone trips!.
Their must be a law out there allready that will cover that. All we need is to make the home owner liable. (what isnt dangerous if you think about it).
If a person climes into my back yard, an my dog bits them its there falt. I have a door bell why are thay not useing it?. And the MPs (MuPpets) just are not looking at the bigger picture. As far as the postmen or person, gose what can i say! apart from why is the postperson in my backyard?. And i gess some of people are just not thinking about this and going with gut feelings and not the big picture.
We all know that the law never works, It only prosecutes the grannys terrier, because the crimanal types have and agood leagal team, if they cared.
The crazy dogs are the victims in all this. And as far as legitimate reason, that can mean anything or anyone and the govenment knows this, Thats why they use the term alot.
Ill give you a instance that could happen eg A window cleaner as a leagal reason to be in your garden even if hes nicking your TV an sterio. And they will still kill your dog for doing its job ??.
I hate this police state and the d**khead people that run it , i wish i could leave and go to a free country. (skint!)
superyob
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1:21pm Mon 23 Jul 12
outofyourmind wrote:Reading this , I would put you in the group with an IQ of less than 50..........right?
To anyone that cares. Who as an IQ more than 50. Putting more laws in place is the wrong way too do anything!.
my point is every law is one more freedom gone? what next. For a start its your own land so you can do anything you like on it, or whats the point in owning land?.
What next?, then it will be no ponds the waterfall makes to much noise, and the legitimate kids that tresspass might drown?.
(well no ones going to convict 9 year old of tresspass iTs what thay do! which then makes them legitimate)
Then you have to cut down trees, tresspassers might get hurt falling out of them!. Or your fence is broken and you get done for dangerous edgeges. Then you have too light your pathways in case a legitimate someone trips!.
Their must be a law out there allready that will cover that. All we need is to make the home owner liable. (what isnt dangerous if you think about it).
If a person climes into my back yard, an my dog bits them its there falt. I have a door bell why are thay not useing it?. And the MPs (MuPpets) just are not looking at the bigger picture. As far as the postmen or person, gose what can i say! apart from why is the postperson in my backyard?. And i gess some of people are just not thinking about this and going with gut feelings and not the big picture.
We all know that the law never works, It only prosecutes the grannys terrier, because the crimanal types have and agood leagal team, if they cared.
The crazy dogs are the victims in all this. And as far as legitimate reason, that can mean anything or anyone and the govenment knows this, Thats why they use the term alot.
Ill give you a instance that could happen eg A window cleaner as a leagal reason to be in your garden even if hes nicking your TV an sterio. And they will still kill your dog for doing its job ??.
I hate this police state and the d**khead people that run it , i wish i could leave and go to a free country. (skint!)
Spell / grammar checks exist on your PC or laptop. It makes you look more intelligent and has more of an impact, if words are spelt correctly and sentences make grammatical sense........
outofyourmind
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4:03am Tue 24 Jul 12
superyob wrote:Oh! you think so?. The fact that you reply to my point by beening critcal about my grammer and spelling skills? tells me lots.
outofyourmind wrote: To anyone that cares. Who as an IQ more than 50. Putting more laws in place is the wrong way too do anything!. my point is every law is one more freedom gone? what next. For a start its your own land so you can do anything you like on it, or whats the point in owning land?. What next?, then it will be no ponds the waterfall makes to much noise, and the legitimate kids that tresspass might drown?. (well no ones going to convict 9 year old of tresspass iTs what thay do! which then makes them legitimate) Then you have to cut down trees, tresspassers might get hurt falling out of them!. Or your fence is broken and you get done for dangerous edgeges. Then you have too light your pathways in case a legitimate someone trips!. Their must be a law out there allready that will cover that. All we need is to make the home owner liable. (what isnt dangerous if you think about it). If a person climes into my back yard, an my dog bits them its there falt. I have a door bell why are thay not useing it?. And the MPs (MuPpets) just are not looking at the bigger picture. As far as the postmen or person, gose what can i say! apart from why is the postperson in my backyard?. And i gess some of people are just not thinking about this and going with gut feelings and not the big picture. We all know that the law never works, It only prosecutes the grannys terrier, because the crimanal types have and agood leagal team, if they cared. The crazy dogs are the victims in all this. And as far as legitimate reason, that can mean anything or anyone and the govenment knows this, Thats why they use the term alot. Ill give you a instance that could happen eg A window cleaner as a leagal reason to be in your garden even if hes nicking your TV an sterio. And they will still kill your dog for doing its job ??. I hate this police state and the d**khead people that run it , i wish i could leave and go to a free country. (skint!)Reading this , I would put you in the group with an IQ of less than 50..........right? Spell / grammar checks exist on your PC or laptop. It makes you look more intelligent and has more of an impact, if words are spelt correctly and sentences make grammatical sense........
Point;- I think you may have taken affence at the term of "IQ higher than 50". That says too me!, You identify with this statment! and feel threatened?. And your trying to divert or project your failings on to others!.
IQ is not measured by spelling or grammer, Book readers just read an write. Wile the rest of us drive the world on into the future.
Propergander:- That comes on paper or in books and now email,.
Ill let history decide who's education standards as a real value to reality. Don't beleave me! look last week Mr T Cann got honorary degree, And thats only because he showed up the d**ks with the degree by doing there jobs beter?.
History:- A good percetage of the worlds great inventions were born in a shed, By a bloke with limited knowlage just a passion and a good idear.
No one cares what you think?, or what i think.
But for all your spelling and grammar skills your IQ can't stretch to a opinion on the subject??
I do have somehing to say no mater how i spell it.
Ill spell it out?, Your language & literature are exceptional but you have nothing of substance to add! (ignorant).- "look it up " you just pick on faults nothing relivent to the story (well thats useful!!!!)
"where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wize" (TGray)
"I rest my case Mi lord"
ps I would have accepted your critical complaint in which you have a point . If you had something to add to the subject, other than my spelling?( muppet ) Will not RVSP So knock your self out TTFN.
superyob
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4:14pm Tue 24 Jul 12
outofyourmind wrote:??????? anyone else make any sense of this tripe ???
superyob wrote:Oh! you think so?. The fact that you reply to my point by beening critcal about my grammer and spelling skills? tells me lots.
outofyourmind wrote: To anyone that cares. Who as an IQ more than 50. Putting more laws in place is the wrong way too do anything!. my point is every law is one more freedom gone? what next. For a start its your own land so you can do anything you like on it, or whats the point in owning land?. What next?, then it will be no ponds the waterfall makes to much noise, and the legitimate kids that tresspass might drown?. (well no ones going to convict 9 year old of tresspass iTs what thay do! which then makes them legitimate) Then you have to cut down trees, tresspassers might get hurt falling out of them!. Or your fence is broken and you get done for dangerous edgeges. Then you have too light your pathways in case a legitimate someone trips!. Their must be a law out there allready that will cover that. All we need is to make the home owner liable. (what isnt dangerous if you think about it). If a person climes into my back yard, an my dog bits them its there falt. I have a door bell why are thay not useing it?. And the MPs (MuPpets) just are not looking at the bigger picture. As far as the postmen or person, gose what can i say! apart from why is the postperson in my backyard?. And i gess some of people are just not thinking about this and going with gut feelings and not the big picture. We all know that the law never works, It only prosecutes the grannys terrier, because the crimanal types have and agood leagal team, if they cared. The crazy dogs are the victims in all this. And as far as legitimate reason, that can mean anything or anyone and the govenment knows this, Thats why they use the term alot. Ill give you a instance that could happen eg A window cleaner as a leagal reason to be in your garden even if hes nicking your TV an sterio. And they will still kill your dog for doing its job ??. I hate this police state and the d**khead people that run it , i wish i could leave and go to a free country. (skint!)Reading this , I would put you in the group with an IQ of less than 50..........right? Spell / grammar checks exist on your PC or laptop. It makes you look more intelligent and has more of an impact, if words are spelt correctly and sentences make grammatical sense........
Point;- I think you may have taken affence at the term of "IQ higher than 50". That says too me!, You identify with this statment! and feel threatened?. And your trying to divert or project your failings on to others!.
IQ is not measured by spelling or grammer, Book readers just read an write. Wile the rest of us drive the world on into the future.
Propergander:- That comes on paper or in books and now email,.
Ill let history decide who's education standards as a real value to reality. Don't beleave me! look last week Mr T Cann got honorary degree, And thats only because he showed up the d**ks with the degree by doing there jobs beter?.
History:- A good percetage of the worlds great inventions were born in a shed, By a bloke with limited knowlage just a passion and a good idear.
No one cares what you think?, or what i think.
But for all your spelling and grammar skills your IQ can't stretch to a opinion on the subject??
I do have somehing to say no mater how i spell it.
Ill spell it out?, Your language & literature are exceptional but you have nothing of substance to add! (ignorant).- "look it up " you just pick on faults nothing relivent to the story (well thats useful!!!!)
"where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wize" (TGray)
"I rest my case Mi lord"
ps I would have accepted your critical complaint in which you have a point . If you had something to add to the subject, other than my spelling?( muppet ) Will not RVSP So knock your self out TTFN.
Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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9:37pm Tue 24 Jul 12
RUinsane wrote:That's a fantastic idea, I'm sick of lager drinking chav dogs
The lager drinking dog, probably goes by the name of Tyson and belongs to a tracki wearing chav with blue tattoos and no teeth. These kind of dogs, that are purchased to make me look ard, need to be chipped to their owners. My idea would be to chip the dog and tattoo a barcode on the chavs head/neck that can be seen from fifty yards. That way if a dog is loose somewhere, anyone wearing tracki bottoms and a vest, lying in their own vomit and within a fifty yard radius can be quickly identified and sent for some dentures and a nice pair of action slacks.
Mikeee47 says...
8:00am Sat 21 Jul 12
Also, the police won't respond, and the dog warden isn't interested anymore.
So tell us please MR Politcian who will police this law??