Tattered Union Jack at Blackburn Cathedral replaced

7:00am Monday 18th June 2012 in News

A TATTERED Union Jack flew over Blackburn Cathedral on the Queen’s official birthday this weekend.

The nation’s flag had been put up two weeks earlier ahead of Jubilee celebrations in what clergy at the cathedral assumed to be mint condition. However within a few days harsh weather conditions took their toll and caused an embarrassing fix for the cathedral.

Bosses at the cathedral said it soon became apparent that their bespoke Union Jack had degraded and aged during five years in storage.

The cathedral rarely uses the Union Jack, instead choosing to fly the St George’s flag on most special occasions.

The St George’s Flag is also the Church of England flag.

The church made the decision to let the damaged flag remain up during Jubilee celebrations, taking it down yesterday. The church will resume flying the St George’s flag, which is in good condition and have also ordered a new Union Jack for future state events.

Canon Andrew Hindley said: “There was no way to know when we took the flag out of storage that it was not in good condition. It appeared to be and it was only when it encountered a few days of very bad weather that it showed deterioration.

“We decided to keep the flag up as it would have taken three weeks to get a replacement. There was no time to get a new flag here for the Queen’s birthday. It is now coming down and we are ordering a new, bespoke Union Jack.

If anyone would like to donate £250 to the church to replace the flag, we would be most grateful. Raising the flag at the cathedral is a job which involves the climbing of 200 steps.

“We are proud to fly the flag and will be displaying an immaculate St George’s flag this week.”

Comments (10)

7:39am Mon 18 Jun 12

Pan-cake says...

"""...If anyone would like to donate £250 to the church to replace the flag, we would be most grateful. Raising the flag at the cathedral is a job which involves the climbing of 200 steps..... """"

It occurs that if the begging bowl is out for a meagre £250, how is this (follow link to LT story about proposed cloisters at the Cathedral) going to be funded??
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Note to LT---- Our countries flag is the Union Flag not the Union Jack (or at least it is till the Jocks declare UDI and sail off into the sunset and obscurity)
"""...If anyone would like to donate £250 to the church to replace the flag, we would be most grateful. Raising the flag at the cathedral is a job which involves the climbing of 200 steps..... """" It occurs that if the begging bowl is out for a meagre £250, how is this (follow link to LT story about proposed cloisters at the Cathedral) going to be funded?? . http://tinyurl.com/c vbf2of . Note to LT---- Our countries flag is the Union Flag not the Union Jack (or at least it is till the Jocks declare UDI and sail off into the sunset and obscurity) Pan-cake

8:22am Mon 18 Jun 12

ladysal says...

Pan-cake wrote:
"""...If anyone would like to donate £250 to the church to replace the flag, we would be most grateful. Raising the flag at the cathedral is a job which involves the climbing of 200 steps..... """" It occurs that if the begging bowl is out for a meagre £250, how is this (follow link to LT story about proposed cloisters at the Cathedral) going to be funded?? . http://tinyurl.com/c vbf2of . Note to LT---- Our countries flag is the Union Flag not the Union Jack (or at least it is till the Jocks declare UDI and sail off into the sunset and obscurity)
Note to LT---- Our countries flag is the Union Flag not the Union Jack (or at least it is till the Jocks declare UDI and sail off into the sunset and obscurity)

Exactly. You would have thought that they would have got something as basic as that right: the flag is only the Union Jack when its on a boat / ship. Otherwise it is the Union Flag.
[quote][p][bold]Pan-cake[/bold] wrote: """...If anyone would like to donate £250 to the church to replace the flag, we would be most grateful. Raising the flag at the cathedral is a job which involves the climbing of 200 steps..... """" It occurs that if the begging bowl is out for a meagre £250, how is this (follow link to LT story about proposed cloisters at the Cathedral) going to be funded?? . http://tinyurl.com/c vbf2of . Note to LT---- Our countries flag is the Union Flag not the Union Jack (or at least it is till the Jocks declare UDI and sail off into the sunset and obscurity)[/p][/quote]Note to LT---- Our countries flag is the Union Flag not the Union Jack (or at least it is till the Jocks declare UDI and sail off into the sunset and obscurity) Exactly. You would have thought that they would have got something as basic as that right: the flag is only the Union Jack when its on a boat / ship. Otherwise it is the Union Flag. ladysal

9:59am Mon 18 Jun 12

A Darener says...

Quote from the flag institute....It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".

Sorry chaps but you are out of date.
Quote from the flag institute....It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag". Sorry chaps but you are out of date. A Darener

11:15am Mon 18 Jun 12

Pan-cake says...

A Darener wrote:
Quote from the flag institute....It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".

Sorry chaps but you are out of date.
Hmmm. A lot of good things are out of date!


Did the Flag Institute say anything about organisations mistakenly flying it upside down? Or is that another thing we can't moan about??
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Quote from the flag institute....It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag". Sorry chaps but you are out of date.[/p][/quote]Hmmm. A lot of good things are out of date! Did the Flag Institute say anything about organisations mistakenly flying it upside down? Or is that another thing we can't moan about?? Pan-cake

11:23am Mon 18 Jun 12

Pan-cake says...

Nothing like a little pedantry on a Monday morning (thats PEDANTRY - nowt to do with children!)
Copied below some text from the Flag Institute.
It seems the national flag is the Union Flag and the Admiralty (quoted in previous post) was just telling the fleet that the Union Jack flying from one of HMs ships should be considered as the national flag.
Simplezz!

""The Union Flag is one of the best-known national symbols in the world. This is not surprising as it has been around for over 400 years with only minor changes. The Union Flag signifies the unity of the nations that make up the United Kingdom and dependencies, and demonstrates the bonds of citizenship which we all share. Whatever our differences may be, whatever our faith, culture, political views, ethnicity, first language or traditional customs, we can all stand beneath this flag united together in common purpose.
Nothing like a little pedantry on a Monday morning (thats PEDANTRY - nowt to do with children!) Copied below some text from the Flag Institute. It seems the national flag is the Union Flag and the Admiralty (quoted in previous post) was just telling the fleet that the Union Jack flying from one of HMs ships should be considered as the national flag. Simplezz! ""The Union Flag is one of the best-known national symbols in the world. This is not surprising as it has been around for over 400 years with only minor changes. The Union Flag signifies the unity of the nations that make up the United Kingdom and dependencies, and demonstrates the bonds of citizenship which we all share. Whatever our differences may be, whatever our faith, culture, political views, ethnicity, first language or traditional customs, we can all stand beneath this flag united together in common purpose. Pan-cake

11:30am Mon 18 Jun 12

RUinsane says...

Pan-cake wrote:
Nothing like a little pedantry on a Monday morning (thats PEDANTRY - nowt to do with children!)
Copied below some text from the Flag Institute.
It seems the national flag is the Union Flag and the Admiralty (quoted in previous post) was just telling the fleet that the Union Jack flying from one of HMs ships should be considered as the national flag.
Simplezz!

""The Union Flag is one of the best-known national symbols in the world. This is not surprising as it has been around for over 400 years with only minor changes. The Union Flag signifies the unity of the nations that make up the United Kingdom and dependencies, and demonstrates the bonds of citizenship which we all share. Whatever our differences may be, whatever our faith, culture, political views, ethnicity, first language or traditional customs, we can all stand beneath this flag united together in common purpose.
which part of the flag comes from wales and ireland? or are they not part of the united kingdom or shall we call it the semi union flag for the semi united kingdom?
[quote][p][bold]Pan-cake[/bold] wrote: Nothing like a little pedantry on a Monday morning (thats PEDANTRY - nowt to do with children!) Copied below some text from the Flag Institute. It seems the national flag is the Union Flag and the Admiralty (quoted in previous post) was just telling the fleet that the Union Jack flying from one of HMs ships should be considered as the national flag. Simplezz! ""The Union Flag is one of the best-known national symbols in the world. This is not surprising as it has been around for over 400 years with only minor changes. The Union Flag signifies the unity of the nations that make up the United Kingdom and dependencies, and demonstrates the bonds of citizenship which we all share. Whatever our differences may be, whatever our faith, culture, political views, ethnicity, first language or traditional customs, we can all stand beneath this flag united together in common purpose.[/p][/quote]which part of the flag comes from wales and ireland? or are they not part of the united kingdom or shall we call it the semi union flag for the semi united kingdom? RUinsane

11:45am Mon 18 Jun 12

sean_brfc says...

The red saltire of St. Patrick represents (N.) Ireland.
The red saltire of St. Patrick represents (N.) Ireland. sean_brfc

11:45am Mon 18 Jun 12

A Darener says...

RUinsane wrote:
Pan-cake wrote:
Nothing like a little pedantry on a Monday morning (thats PEDANTRY - nowt to do with children!)
Copied below some text from the Flag Institute.
It seems the national flag is the Union Flag and the Admiralty (quoted in previous post) was just telling the fleet that the Union Jack flying from one of HMs ships should be considered as the national flag.
Simplezz!

""The Union Flag is one of the best-known national symbols in the world. This is not surprising as it has been around for over 400 years with only minor changes. The Union Flag signifies the unity of the nations that make up the United Kingdom and dependencies, and demonstrates the bonds of citizenship which we all share. Whatever our differences may be, whatever our faith, culture, political views, ethnicity, first language or traditional customs, we can all stand beneath this flag united together in common purpose.
which part of the flag comes from wales and ireland? or are they not part of the united kingdom or shall we call it the semi union flag for the semi united kingdom?
The cross of ST Patrick (Northern Ireland) is represented by a red diagonal cross on the Union Flag. Wales is not represented on the flag.
[quote][p][bold]RUinsane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pan-cake[/bold] wrote: Nothing like a little pedantry on a Monday morning (thats PEDANTRY - nowt to do with children!) Copied below some text from the Flag Institute. It seems the national flag is the Union Flag and the Admiralty (quoted in previous post) was just telling the fleet that the Union Jack flying from one of HMs ships should be considered as the national flag. Simplezz! ""The Union Flag is one of the best-known national symbols in the world. This is not surprising as it has been around for over 400 years with only minor changes. The Union Flag signifies the unity of the nations that make up the United Kingdom and dependencies, and demonstrates the bonds of citizenship which we all share. Whatever our differences may be, whatever our faith, culture, political views, ethnicity, first language or traditional customs, we can all stand beneath this flag united together in common purpose.[/p][/quote]which part of the flag comes from wales and ireland? or are they not part of the united kingdom or shall we call it the semi union flag for the semi united kingdom?[/p][/quote]The cross of ST Patrick (Northern Ireland) is represented by a red diagonal cross on the Union Flag. Wales is not represented on the flag. A Darener

2:04pm Mon 18 Jun 12

ladysal says...

A Darener wrote:
Quote from the flag institute....It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag". Sorry chaps but you are out of date.
You learn something new every day. I stand (happily) corrected.
And yes, pedantry is good: it means that standards don't slip.....
[quote][p][bold]A Darener[/bold] wrote: Quote from the flag institute....It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag". Sorry chaps but you are out of date.[/p][/quote]You learn something new every day. I stand (happily) corrected. And yes, pedantry is good: it means that standards don't slip..... ladysal

12:06am Tue 19 Jun 12

Pan-cake says...

Ladysal said: ""And yes, pedantry is good: it means that standards don't slip.....""

More correctly the meaning of pedantry is to be overly concerned with minute details or formalisms.
I agree though it also means one of its effects is that its use means standards don't slip.
Ladysal said: ""And yes, pedantry is good: it means that standards don't slip....."" More correctly the meaning of pedantry is to be overly concerned with minute details or formalisms. I agree though it also means one of its effects is that its use means standards don't slip. Pan-cake

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