Drug user grew £26,000 cannabis farm at his Accrington home

First published in News

A DRUG user said to have a potential £26,000 cannabis farm at his Accrington home, has been locked up for two years.

Burnley Crown Court heard how Michael Maher, 31, was growing 61 plants in his loft and the crop could potentially have yielded almost three kilos of drugs.

Police found the well-organised and sophisticated farm when they forced their way into his home and raided it, last September 23.

Maher was on benefits and the cannabis, if sold commercially, could have netted about £26,000 on the streets. The defendant, of Stanley Street, admitted producing can-nabis and possessing the drug and had been committed for sentence by magistrates.

The hearing was told the defendant, who was at the property with his girlfriend when police forced their way in, directed officers to the cannabis farm.

The prosecution said the plants could have yielded 2.94 kilos of cannabis. Nobody else was involved with the production.

Kevin Preston, for Maher, said he accepted he had placed himself in a precarious position. It had been his first attempt at growing cannabis.

The defendant had been fully co-operative with police when they entered the property and guided officers to the loft area. He made full admissions when interviewed.

Judge Beverley Lunt said the defendant had committed some serious offences in the past, but nothing since 2006 and nothing for drugs.

The judge said Maher had chosen to grow the cannabis and even if the drugs had been for his own use, the farm was well-organised. She said: “It's a criminal offence and it's a serious criminal offence.”

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4:38pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Good another peddlar of death removed from the streets. Is two years enough for these killers? At least the addict will have time enough to go through cold turkey while he's in the big house.
Good another peddlar of death removed from the streets. Is two years enough for these killers? At least the addict will have time enough to go through cold turkey while he's in the big house. Keep Darwen Green
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5:02pm Thu 15 Mar 12

did you smash it? says...

Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
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I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit did you smash it?
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5:11pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
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I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced. Keep Darwen Green
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5:17pm Thu 15 Mar 12

did you smash it? says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Boom - there it is, as predicted.
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Sad really
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Boom - there it is, as predicted. . Sad really did you smash it?
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5:20pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Chris P Bacon says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror.

This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis.

And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly.

But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind. Chris P Bacon
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5:28pm Thu 15 Mar 12

woolywords says...

Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary.

Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks.

It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory.

Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction.
Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances.
So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.
Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary. Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks. It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory. Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction. Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances. So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts. woolywords
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5:30pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Dave_P says...

Keep Darwen Green is "allegedly" a well know pothead and has had previous dealings with the police for his many drug crimes.
Keep Darwen Green is "allegedly" a well know pothead and has had previous dealings with the police for his many drug crimes. Dave_P
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5:32pm Thu 15 Mar 12

did you smash it? says...

Dave_P wrote:
Keep Darwen Green is "allegedly" a well know pothead and has had previous dealings with the police for his many drug crimes.
I think the point you make is valid - I mean look at his username - Keep Darwen GREEN.
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Obvious really
[quote][p][bold]Dave_P[/bold] wrote: Keep Darwen Green is "allegedly" a well know pothead and has had previous dealings with the police for his many drug crimes.[/p][/quote]I think the point you make is valid - I mean look at his username - Keep Darwen GREEN. . Obvious really did you smash it?
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5:39pm Thu 15 Mar 12

woolywords says...

Where do the Prosecution buy thier cannabis from, because they are being seriously ripped off.
A yeild of 2.94kg at £26000 implies that it is £221 per oz!
Might I suggest that you change your source or even move house because your 'street value' is way over the current street prices.
Where do the Prosecution buy thier cannabis from, because they are being seriously ripped off. A yeild of 2.94kg at £26000 implies that it is £221 per oz! Might I suggest that you change your source or even move house because your 'street value' is way over the current street prices. woolywords
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5:41pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror.

This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis.

And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly.

But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.
What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA.
You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army.
Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.[/p][/quote]What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA. You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army. Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs. Keep Darwen Green
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6:10pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Cha'mone MF says...

Jack Herer, where are you ?
Jack Herer, where are you ? Cha'mone MF
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6:35pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Chris P Bacon says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror.

This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis.

And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly.

But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.
What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA.
You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army.
Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.
Claiming Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked cannabis (his religious right, though I doubt you know that) is like claiming Winston Churchill died in a plane crash because he'd flown in an aeroplane.

And if ANYone is guilty of 'drug rants' posting on here, we all see who fills THAT particular role. Well done Greeny.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.[/p][/quote]What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA. You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army. Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.[/p][/quote]Claiming Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked cannabis (his religious right, though I doubt you know that) is like claiming Winston Churchill died in a plane crash because he'd flown in an aeroplane. And if ANYone is guilty of 'drug rants' posting on here, we all see who fills THAT particular role. Well done Greeny. Chris P Bacon
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6:35pm Thu 15 Mar 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer, where are you ?
"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?
[quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Jack Herer, where are you ?[/p][/quote]"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..? living the end times in BB1
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6:47pm Thu 15 Mar 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Boom - there it is, as predicted.
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Sad really
you can complain about posts being boring pointless and repetitive.Do so especially when its......you don't need me to tell you who that muppet is.Enough complaints and he's gone we could do that between us tonight.I'm sick of it as well by the way.
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Boom - there it is, as predicted. . Sad really[/p][/quote]you can complain about posts being boring pointless and repetitive.Do so especially when its......you don't need me to tell you who that muppet is.Enough complaints and he's gone we could do that between us tonight.I'm sick of it as well by the way. living the end times in BB1
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6:50pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror.

This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis.

And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly.

But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.
What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA.
You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army.
Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.
Claiming Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked cannabis (his religious right, though I doubt you know that) is like claiming Winston Churchill died in a plane crash because he'd flown in an aeroplane.

And if ANYone is guilty of 'drug rants' posting on here, we all see who fills THAT particular role. Well done Greeny.
Hello spellchecker, long time no hear. Have you been bonged out with your taliban friends after a particularly good harvest. I am actually amazed that you feel the need to comment on any issue, you usually go around just correcting spelling or the general of the apostrophe gestapo. A bit out of your depth and comfort zone here. Pray tell me, what do you know about the drug world, being a low life an all? I may appear a bit ignorant about these issues, but I think its because we move in different circles. I being a pillar of the community whilst you jump from drug den to drug den, occasionally coming round enough to consult a dictionary and then passing out again through over indulgence and pain induced by massive boulder burns.
[quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.[/p][/quote]What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA. You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army. Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.[/p][/quote]Claiming Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked cannabis (his religious right, though I doubt you know that) is like claiming Winston Churchill died in a plane crash because he'd flown in an aeroplane. And if ANYone is guilty of 'drug rants' posting on here, we all see who fills THAT particular role. Well done Greeny.[/p][/quote]Hello spellchecker, long time no hear. Have you been bonged out with your taliban friends after a particularly good harvest. I am actually amazed that you feel the need to comment on any issue, you usually go around just correcting spelling or the general of the apostrophe gestapo. A bit out of your depth and comfort zone here. Pray tell me, what do you know about the drug world, being a low life an all? I may appear a bit ignorant about these issues, but I think its because we move in different circles. I being a pillar of the community whilst you jump from drug den to drug den, occasionally coming round enough to consult a dictionary and then passing out again through over indulgence and pain induced by massive boulder burns. Keep Darwen Green
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7:26pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Chris P Bacon says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror.

This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis.

And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly.

But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.
What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA.
You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army.
Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.
Claiming Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked cannabis (his religious right, though I doubt you know that) is like claiming Winston Churchill died in a plane crash because he'd flown in an aeroplane.

And if ANYone is guilty of 'drug rants' posting on here, we all see who fills THAT particular role. Well done Greeny.
Hello spellchecker, long time no hear. Have you been bonged out with your taliban friends after a particularly good harvest. I am actually amazed that you feel the need to comment on any issue, you usually go around just correcting spelling or the general of the apostrophe gestapo. A bit out of your depth and comfort zone here. Pray tell me, what do you know about the drug world, being a low life an all? I may appear a bit ignorant about these issues, but I think its because we move in different circles. I being a pillar of the community whilst you jump from drug den to drug den, occasionally coming round enough to consult a dictionary and then passing out again through over indulgence and pain induced by massive boulder burns.
A typical loser strategy; throw ridiculous allegations at those who've bested you. So I look forward to your evidence I am in the Taliban. We wait with baited breath.

But I thank you for illustrating a high profile news item today. If you get someone to read this to you, you'll understand the reason for my gratitude: http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/news/educat
ion/education-news/o
fsted-chief-in-liter
acy-warning-7573295.
html
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.[/p][/quote]What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA. You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army. Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.[/p][/quote]Claiming Bob Marley died of cancer because he smoked cannabis (his religious right, though I doubt you know that) is like claiming Winston Churchill died in a plane crash because he'd flown in an aeroplane. And if ANYone is guilty of 'drug rants' posting on here, we all see who fills THAT particular role. Well done Greeny.[/p][/quote]Hello spellchecker, long time no hear. Have you been bonged out with your taliban friends after a particularly good harvest. I am actually amazed that you feel the need to comment on any issue, you usually go around just correcting spelling or the general of the apostrophe gestapo. A bit out of your depth and comfort zone here. Pray tell me, what do you know about the drug world, being a low life an all? I may appear a bit ignorant about these issues, but I think its because we move in different circles. I being a pillar of the community whilst you jump from drug den to drug den, occasionally coming round enough to consult a dictionary and then passing out again through over indulgence and pain induced by massive boulder burns.[/p][/quote]A typical loser strategy; throw ridiculous allegations at those who've bested you. So I look forward to your evidence I am in the Taliban. We wait with baited breath. But I thank you for illustrating a high profile news item today. If you get someone to read this to you, you'll understand the reason for my gratitude: http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/educat ion/education-news/o fsted-chief-in-liter acy-warning-7573295. html Chris P Bacon
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8:57pm Thu 15 Mar 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

No Victim, No Crime
No Victim, No Crime Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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8:51am Fri 16 Mar 12

Jack Herer says...

woolywords wrote:
Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary.

Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks.

It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory.

Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction.
Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances.
So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.
Just so you are aware of the full facts regarding cannabis "carcinogens";

Studies have found that Cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If a study only looked at the bad effects of those same shared carcinogens (acetaldehyde for instance is one common to both cannabis and tobacco) - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary. Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks. It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory. Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction. Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances. So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.[/p][/quote]Just so you are aware of the full facts regarding cannabis "carcinogens"; Studies have found that Cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco. Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird. The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do. If a study only looked at the bad effects of those same shared carcinogens (acetaldehyde for instance is one common to both cannabis and tobacco) - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has. It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe. That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis. Jack Herer
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9:01am Fri 16 Mar 12

Jack Herer says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc.
.
I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Keep Darwen Green, if there is one subject you should probably not talk about, for embarrassment sake, then it would be cannabis.

As came out with the last debate, it turned out that you have no experience of life whatsoever - no life whatsoever at all in fact. People now know you for what you are because of the silly nonsense you come out with cannabis.

Therefore if you want people to think you have something other than an incredibly sad existence, then I'd stop coming out with stuff that's laughably wrong about cannabis.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Keep Darwen Green, if there is one subject you should probably not talk about, for embarrassment sake, then it would be cannabis. As came out with the last debate, it turned out that you have no experience of life whatsoever - no life whatsoever at all in fact. People now know you for what you are because of the silly nonsense you come out with cannabis. Therefore if you want people to think you have something other than an incredibly sad existence, then I'd stop coming out with stuff that's laughably wrong about cannabis. Jack Herer
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9:04am Fri 16 Mar 12

Jack Herer says...

living the end times in BB1 wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer, where are you ?
"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?
Nope - Jack was watching Premier League darts because it's Thursday!
[quote][p][bold]living the end times in BB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Jack Herer, where are you ?[/p][/quote]"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?[/p][/quote]Nope - Jack was watching Premier League darts because it's Thursday! Jack Herer
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9:21am Fri 16 Mar 12

Lifeinthemix says...

so @some £50.000 per year to imprison, plus all the cash made by the magistrates and lawyers......this shenanigins has cost the taxpayer a lot of cash for basically growing the only product available to those outside the corporate realm.....

this is not good finance, the taxpayer is losing out in such private industry, now had they taxed him, they would perhaps have had double what the taxpayer is now paying to imprison.
Of course given the blatent lies of the police in these matters when it comes to potential street value of the hoard, then he probably had three dying plants in his attick and a big bag in his pocket......

telling fibs is not clever and it is very naughty....and the police appear to be supreme at both!
so @some £50.000 per year to imprison, plus all the cash made by the magistrates and lawyers......this shenanigins has cost the taxpayer a lot of cash for basically growing the only product available to those outside the corporate realm..... this is not good finance, the taxpayer is losing out in such private industry, now had they taxed him, they would perhaps have had double what the taxpayer is now paying to imprison. Of course given the blatent lies of the police in these matters when it comes to potential street value of the hoard, then he probably had three dying plants in his attick and a big bag in his pocket...... telling fibs is not clever and it is very naughty....and the police appear to be supreme at both! Lifeinthemix
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10:24am Fri 16 Mar 12

Jack Stanley Evans says...

End the prohibition of cannabis.

Introduce a regulated system of supply through licensed outlets to adults only which will minimise all health and social harms.

Permit doctors to prescribe one of the safest and most effective medicines known to man.

Pull the rug from under organised crime.

Boost the UK economy by up to £9.3 billion per annum.

Go to the CLEAR website for full details: www.clear-uk.org
End the prohibition of cannabis. Introduce a regulated system of supply through licensed outlets to adults only which will minimise all health and social harms. Permit doctors to prescribe one of the safest and most effective medicines known to man. Pull the rug from under organised crime. Boost the UK economy by up to £9.3 billion per annum. Go to the CLEAR website for full details: www.clear-uk.org Jack Stanley Evans
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11:28am Fri 16 Mar 12

chris283 says...

is keep darwen green spouting crap again , they dont even know how to use knife and forks so his own thinking is is a big no no thick as **** hahahahah
is keep darwen green spouting crap again , they dont even know how to use knife and forks so his own thinking is is a big no no thick as **** hahahahah chris283
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12:59pm Fri 16 Mar 12

everywhere is sh1t says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Good another peddlar of death removed from the streets. Is two years enough for these killers? At least the addict will have time enough to go through cold turkey while he's in the big house.
wtf are you on about you fcuking moron more people die fromwanking then pot you idiot
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Good another peddlar of death removed from the streets. Is two years enough for these killers? At least the addict will have time enough to go through cold turkey while he's in the big house.[/p][/quote]wtf are you on about you fcuking moron more people die fromwanking then pot you idiot everywhere is sh1t
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1:17pm Fri 16 Mar 12

Lifeinthemix says...

everywhere is sh1t wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Good another peddlar of death removed from the streets. Is two years enough for these killers? At least the addict will have time enough to go through cold turkey while he's in the big house.
wtf are you on about you fcuking moron more people die fromwanking then pot you idiot
can you prove that?
[quote][p][bold]everywhere is sh1t[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: Good another peddlar of death removed from the streets. Is two years enough for these killers? At least the addict will have time enough to go through cold turkey while he's in the big house.[/p][/quote]wtf are you on about you fcuking moron more people die fromwanking then pot you idiot[/p][/quote]can you prove that? Lifeinthemix
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1:53pm Fri 16 Mar 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

Jack Herer wrote:
living the end times in BB1 wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer, where are you ?
"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?
Nope - Jack was watching Premier League darts because it's Thursday!
Thankyou for that Jack...Don't know what I'd do without Jack Herer and you comments of course..haha...


ps:hopefully kdg has gone to bore somebody else with its senseless dribble.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]living the end times in BB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Jack Herer, where are you ?[/p][/quote]"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?[/p][/quote]Nope - Jack was watching Premier League darts because it's Thursday![/p][/quote]Thankyou for that Jack...Don't know what I'd do without Jack Herer and you comments of course..haha... ps:hopefully kdg has gone to bore somebody else with its senseless dribble. living the end times in BB1
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1:55pm Fri 16 Mar 12

living the end times in BB1 says...

Jack Herer wrote:
living the end times in BB1 wrote:
Cha'mone MF wrote:
Jack Herer, where are you ?
"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?
Nope - Jack was watching Premier League darts because it's Thursday!
Thankyou for that Jack...Don't know what I'd do without Jack Herer and you comments of course..haha...


ps:hopefully kdg has gone to bore somebody else with its senseless dribble.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]living the end times in BB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cha'mone MF[/bold] wrote: Jack Herer, where are you ?[/p][/quote]"was it jack thats been given 2yrs i wonder..?[/p][/quote]Nope - Jack was watching Premier League darts because it's Thursday![/p][/quote]Thankyou for that Jack...Don't know what I'd do without Jack Herer and you comments of course..haha... ps:hopefully kdg has gone to bore somebody else with its senseless dribble. living the end times in BB1
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2:56pm Fri 16 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Jack Herer wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary.

Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks.

It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory.

Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction.
Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances.
So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.
Just so you are aware of the full facts regarding cannabis "carcinogens";

Studies have found that Cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If a study only looked at the bad effects of those same shared carcinogens (acetaldehyde for instance is one common to both cannabis and tobacco) - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
Bob marley died of cannabis poisoning brought on by bonging out on skip loads of the stuff. Cancer causing agent that damages your DNA , don't believe me? read the white papers about this track line killer. I personally have no gripes if they joined a needle exchange program but it would have to be monitored, maybe they could be tagged.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary. Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks. It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory. Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction. Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances. So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.[/p][/quote]Just so you are aware of the full facts regarding cannabis "carcinogens"; Studies have found that Cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco. Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird. The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do. If a study only looked at the bad effects of those same shared carcinogens (acetaldehyde for instance is one common to both cannabis and tobacco) - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has. It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe. That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.[/p][/quote]Bob marley died of cannabis poisoning brought on by bonging out on skip loads of the stuff. Cancer causing agent that damages your DNA , don't believe me? read the white papers about this track line killer. I personally have no gripes if they joined a needle exchange program but it would have to be monitored, maybe they could be tagged. Keep Darwen Green
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3:05pm Fri 16 Mar 12

did you smash it? says...

Yeah KDG man, absolutely dude you have got this one nailed, like totally.

Radical
Yeah KDG man, absolutely dude you have got this one nailed, like totally. Radical did you smash it?
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5:39pm Fri 16 Mar 12

Lifeinthemix says...

sorry greeni but canabis has been rife here since the late eighties and i have yet to see anyone outside burnley with funny DNA.
get back to painting darren ICI green

Bob the marly was killed
sorry greeni but canabis has been rife here since the late eighties and i have yet to see anyone outside burnley with funny DNA. get back to painting darren ICI green Bob the marly was killed Lifeinthemix
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6:17pm Fri 16 Mar 12

Michael@ClitheroeSince58 says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Yeah KDG man, absolutely dude you have got this one nailed, like totally.

Radical
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[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Yeah KDG man, absolutely dude you have got this one nailed, like totally. Radical[/p][/quote]likes Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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8:15pm Fri 16 Mar 12

Keep Darwen Green says...

Lifeinthemix wrote:
sorry greeni but canabis has been rife here since the late eighties and i have yet to see anyone outside burnley with funny DNA.
get back to painting darren ICI green

Bob the marly was killed
I actually remember my brother getting busted for it in 1976. Took 3 months to get through cold turkey and rehab, He's much better now though, he just dabbles in a bit of recreational smack, I think he calls it, but at least he's not injecting like these nutters do. Thats how I know so much about it, he tells me everything I need to know when he's awake.
[quote][p][bold]Lifeinthemix[/bold] wrote: sorry greeni but canabis has been rife here since the late eighties and i have yet to see anyone outside burnley with funny DNA. get back to painting darren ICI green Bob the marly was killed[/p][/quote]I actually remember my brother getting busted for it in 1976. Took 3 months to get through cold turkey and rehab, He's much better now though, he just dabbles in a bit of recreational smack, I think he calls it, but at least he's not injecting like these nutters do. Thats how I know so much about it, he tells me everything I need to know when he's awake. Keep Darwen Green
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9:10pm Fri 16 Mar 12

Lifeinthemix says...

well in that sense we are looking at the 50's for its population usage, but it went mental through the 90's.

The fact is greeni, the corporate state unleashed drugs onto the eighties in order they could break society one last time and to ensure the unemployed masses are way tooo stoned to consider actually understanding our predicament enough to get out of the hey man everythings great and cool man X Factor is on.....

it keeps the lower classes numbed while the middle classes in their obsession with their teeth get thei numbing fix twice a day in their toothpaste.

for all those supermarket drinkers, your beer is brewed in flouridated water you are comatozed and know it not because your mates are comatopzed too so you don't notice it.

and for the older and weaker, well, taxpayers shift billions into their medicated coma state in drugs galllore, but of course that dealer wears a suit and so the robot is fooled, his drugs must be much better for me they are legal....

and the band stopped playing because no one could listen to them while in their sleep
well in that sense we are looking at the 50's for its population usage, but it went mental through the 90's. The fact is greeni, the corporate state unleashed drugs onto the eighties in order they could break society one last time and to ensure the unemployed masses are way tooo stoned to consider actually understanding our predicament enough to get out of the hey man everythings great and cool man X Factor is on..... it keeps the lower classes numbed while the middle classes in their obsession with their teeth get thei numbing fix twice a day in their toothpaste. for all those supermarket drinkers, your beer is brewed in flouridated water you are comatozed and know it not because your mates are comatopzed too so you don't notice it. and for the older and weaker, well, taxpayers shift billions into their medicated coma state in drugs galllore, but of course that dealer wears a suit and so the robot is fooled, his drugs must be much better for me they are legal.... and the band stopped playing because no one could listen to them while in their sleep Lifeinthemix
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7:28am Sat 17 Mar 12

Chris P Bacon says...

Jack Herer wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary.

Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks.

It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory.

Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction.
Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances.
So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.
Just so you are aware of the full facts regarding cannabis "carcinogens";

Studies have found that Cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco.

Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird.

The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do.

If a study only looked at the bad effects of those same shared carcinogens (acetaldehyde for instance is one common to both cannabis and tobacco) - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has.

It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe.

That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.
And here's another thing; why do people assume cannabis/lung cancer need even be discussed (scare stories propagated by the ignorant) when it is foolishly assumed cannabis must be smoked? I think more people vape or bake cannabis than smoke it thereby eliminating the requirement for a discussion on the subject.

And to pre-empt the hopelessly deranged divvy formerly known as Titley, the spectacularly stupid KDG, we won't accept its submission over 'injecting'. It doesn't happen.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Herer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I do not condone the use of cannabis, I feel that I must point out some popular misconceptions that appear regularily in the commentary. Cannabis is considered to be a 'soft' drug by most people and, apart perhaps from the mistaken belief that it will lead to 'hard' drug use, it is seen by many as a fairly benign drug. However, this does not mean that the use of cannabis entails no health-risks. It has been argued that cannabis smoke contains carcinogenic substances. The British Lung Foundation recently reported that smoking 3 cannabis 'joints' was equivalent to 20 cigarettes. When cannabis is smoked mixed with tobacco, the problems associated with tobacco smoking also become relevant. Cannabis smoking is also believed by some experts to be associated with conditions such as bronchitis. The point here is that as soon as you start to burn something and inhale that smoke a range of health risks are created. Evidence to cannabis's relative harm in this respect (compared to say cigarettes) is as yet contradictory. Some experts believe that cannabis use must also be seen as involving some risk of dependence. It is clear however that while some individuals may suffer from problems not dissimilar in many ways to a dependence syndrome, for the majority of users dependence is not an outcome and as such cannabis would not normatively be understood as a drug of addiction. Alcohol is thought to cause around 28,000 excess deaths per year in England and Wales, Tobacco more so and yet both are legal substances. So to state that someone growing cannabis is a 'peddlar of death' is both fallacious and unsupportable by the facts.[/p][/quote]Just so you are aware of the full facts regarding cannabis "carcinogens"; Studies have found that Cannabis, when burnt, has some of the same nasty carcinogens as tobacco. Here's the amazing thing though - even though millions and millions of people have caught cancer from those carcinogens from smoking tobacco - no-one has ever caught cancer from the exact same carcinogens from smoking cannabis - no-one, not ever. Isn't that weird. The truth therefore, which scientists now know, is that cannabis, or actually THC, has anti-cancer properties - it has to, otherwise people would get cancer, but they never ever do. If a study only looked at the bad effects of those same shared carcinogens (acetaldehyde for instance is one common to both cannabis and tobacco) - then it is flawed in saying that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco - because it doesn't take into account the hugely positive counter effect which THC has. It needs to look at what cannabis does as well which tobacco clearly doesn't. Cannabis is looking after it's users - incredibly it is making these highly dangerous carcinogens completely safe. That's a guaranteed fact - because no-one has ever got lung cancer from cannabis.[/p][/quote]And here's another thing; why do people assume cannabis/lung cancer need even be discussed (scare stories propagated by the ignorant) when it is foolishly assumed cannabis must be smoked? I think more people vape or bake cannabis than smoke it thereby eliminating the requirement for a discussion on the subject. And to pre-empt the hopelessly deranged divvy formerly known as Titley, the spectacularly stupid KDG, we won't accept its submission over 'injecting'. It doesn't happen. Chris P Bacon
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8:35am Sat 17 Mar 12

Lifeinthemix says...

I was told that cannabis if altered to its purest form of oil, kills all cancers and other fatal diseases.
I am not sure of its validity as the research was not huge in info, but if it is so then one can understand why they want people on it yet have to upkeep the idea they don't.

That said, cannabis while keeping the masses content is also killing the country with the can't be arsed attitude and that is not good.
I was told that cannabis if altered to its purest form of oil, kills all cancers and other fatal diseases. I am not sure of its validity as the research was not huge in info, but if it is so then one can understand why they want people on it yet have to upkeep the idea they don't. That said, cannabis while keeping the masses content is also killing the country with the can't be arsed attitude and that is not good. Lifeinthemix
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3:21pm Mon 19 Mar 12

harrythehamster says...

Keep Darwen Green wrote:
Chris P Bacon wrote:
Keep Darwen Green wrote:
did you smash it? wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit
Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.
Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.
What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA. You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army. Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.
If his DNA changed what did he become then? Like a Trifid or something? Did he inject himself with a Trifid? No wonder he died of cancer. Anyhow.I don't think you're a pothead,just a very naughty boy.
[quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chris P Bacon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keep Darwen Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Here is Keep Darwen Green the WUM with his ultra-boring and monotone rants about Cannabis and killers etc. . I expect he will post about someone 'injecting' the drug shortly - he's such a wit[/p][/quote]Another addict pushing for legality, is there anything more boring than that old argument? Look mate people are dying from overdoses of this stuff, we need to stamp you and your kind out. Its against the law so you should get two years for even talking about it. All the facillitators you have consumed are twisting your mind making you unable to make credible decisions, everything you do is now drug induced.[/p][/quote]Yes, there's something FAR more boring than 'that old argument' and that's the empty-headed know-nowt you see when you look in the mirror. This story is about cannabis, not 'death' as you'd stupidly like to believe. And no, no-one is 'dying from overdoses of this stuff', it's never happened as it's biologically, physically and physiologically impossible to do so. And we're still awaiting your claim that Bob Marley's death had even a tangential connection with cannabis. And as you've lost this argument before you've left your cave, you throw insults about the superior mind above and claim 'everything you do is now drug induced'! And you're too stupid to even feel embarrassed at how stupid you make yourself look. Repeatedly. But a new low, even in your sad and tragic world is to make a claim, ridiculous beyond redemption that 'you should get two years for even talking about it'! There's no words to describe the blight that affects your mind.[/p][/quote]What about 18 months instead then? and Bob Marley died of cancer although you and your death peddling brothers say you can't catch cancer from cannabis?? Even though Mr Marley used to eat, drink, smoke and inject, even preach about the stuff, yet he dies of cancer something which heavy cannabis use is supposed to protect you from, give it a rest numb nuts you aint convincing no-one with you drug rants. Must have altered his DNA, don't beleive me? there is a white paper on it. Cannabis alters DNA. You may as well be a taliban general after all you fully support the funding of their army. Bacon rind monkey is as dumb as they come. As I said, another junkie on the lower rungs.[/p][/quote]If his DNA changed what did he become then? Like a Trifid or something? Did he inject himself with a Trifid? No wonder he died of cancer. Anyhow.I don't think you're a pothead,just a very naughty boy. harrythehamster
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