Council tax rise to fund Lancashire Constabulary (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Council tax rise to fund Lancashire Constabulary
4:30pm Thursday 9th February 2012 in News
By Catherine Pye, Health reporter
PLEASED Chief Constable Steve Finnigan
LANCASHIRE Constabulary has won its fight to increase the council tax precept by 2.5 per cent, rather than taking a one-off £2million government grant.
Members of the Lancashire Police Authority (LPA) voted to increase the precept by £3.66 by a majority of 12 to four, after hearing that accepting the grant would increase deficits in the future.
Lancashire Constabulary has to make £42million savings over four years as part of Government cut backs.
By March – two years into the scheme – £33million cuts will already have been made, and constabulary bosses will know where a total of £39million is coming from.
But a further £4million cuts need to be found, something Chief Constable Steve Finnigan said would increase to £5.7million by 2013/14 if the grant was taken, because of a lower council tax baseline.
Raising the precept by 2.5 per cent will generate another £1.7million income.
He said: “If the £4million becomes £5.7million, then I will have to make cuts to the front line. Don’t break the business.
There is a real fragility in departments of the constabulary that could end up being broken if we’re not careful.”
Member Amanda Webster said: “If we take the grant we are cheating the people of Lancashire. It is not ‘free money’. We have got to support the police by not taking any more money out.”
Opponents, including Conservative members of the LPA, said the public would be “miffed” that a grant was being refused, and it wasn’t certain that the grant would not be repeated next year.
County Coun George Wilkins said: “We have a moral responsibility to accept the grant and live within our means.”
After the vote was taken, Chief Constable Finnigan said he was please and that the 2.5 per cent increase was “for the best for the communities of Lancashire.”
He said: “The grant was here-today-gone-tomorrow and although it would bring in £300,000 more in one year, that would then have to be paid for in subsequent years.”
Comments(31)
makaveli96
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4:36pm Thu 9 Feb 12
The lazy, the unemployed and people in prison get off with nothing!!
How is this fair?
What is the answer.....
makaveli96
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4:39pm Thu 9 Feb 12
makaveli96
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4:49pm Thu 9 Feb 12
"It's alright, mate," I shouted, pointing at a nearby sign, "It says no swimming anyway".
wulver
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6:26pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Mikeee47
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7:28pm Thu 9 Feb 12
psch
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8:59pm Thu 9 Feb 12
Are you going to get your lazy staff to work for a change.
Are you going to sack the skivers on the sick
Lifeinthemix
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10:36pm Thu 9 Feb 12
https://www.lifeinth
emix.info/2011/12/la
ncashire-county-coun
cil-owned-blues-twos
-credit-union/
Rumpole
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12:58am Fri 10 Feb 12
The whole legal system has been corrupted since barrister Blair and Straw got their hands on the reins of the country!
Justify the money you already get before you ask for more!
halfhearted
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8:14am Fri 10 Feb 12
The tax payers of Lancashire,are being asked to pay more for less. How many Police Stations are to be closed under the current management ? Most of these are in the areas with a lower unemployment figure than the larger towns. This means that those in employment are paying for a service they are not receiving.
The public request,no demand a Police presence in their community,but this is not being provided under the current management.
Crime is on the increase in rural areas because of the lack of bodies on the ground. The manpower is being used up in the larger areas,populated by drug and alcohol abusers. These people create problems by committing crime to feed their habits,get involved in violence,domestic disputes,child neglect etc. These very same people contribute nothing. The Courts don't even recover monies from these people as in days gone by.
The system is wrong. Its about time those who offend and use the public resources are made to pay,and those who work and contribute to the system have their payments frozen.
Lifeinthemix
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8:28am Fri 10 Feb 12
the constabulary are acting in treason and they love it so we defeat the puffs in this way :
https://www.lifeinth
emix.info/british-la
w/british-law-green-
card/
Accy Phil
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9:16am Fri 10 Feb 12
retsofad
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11:55am Fri 10 Feb 12
Come on Mr Police Chief get your priorities right don't expect the Jo public to pay extra for Bobbies shining the seats of their pants
wulver
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12:15pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Lifeinthemix
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5:50pm Fri 10 Feb 12
the country is in the state it is because the people have ceased to be able to exist without big government, big police in your face, council laying out the law that is not law, etc.
would it not be a good idea to get back to the mindset we were in pre-90's?
we all took responsibility for our lives, we did not need permission, we did not need to be told. we did what we did and behaved like adults which kept the police and all other seriously out of order institutions in the background working for the people not telling the people.
this shift is the only way this insanity will cease as the nazi does not know when to cease it has to be demolished. getting to grips with the law is the none violent way of demolishing the fascism that has crept into all our civil systems as they are now controlled by the cororate realm and not the constitutional realm.
only the people together can stop this, they will not stop on their own as they cannot think for themselves anymore, they are the hive mind the anthill, the drones the infirm of mind.
Cha'mone MF
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10:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
psch wrote:You are a complete pr1ck.
Disgusting action.
Are you going to get your lazy staff to work for a change.
Are you going to sack the skivers on the sick
Cha'mone MF
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10:32pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Mikeee47 wrote:That's right, Cops are robots and don't need to eat. And when they finish work they get put in a locker and have a power cable stuck up their ar*e to re-charge them.
Does that mean they'll attend when you phone them, and not 4 days later or after they finish their KFCs. Somethings never change, no doubt they'll still hound the easy target THE MOTORIST
Cha'mone MF
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10:36pm Sat 11 Feb 12
wulver wrote:Do you have a lunch break where you work?....... Oh yeah thats right, you don't work, you're one of the unwashed masses who loves to claim that your a hard working "taxpayer".
Unbelievable !!! That's a few more vehicles to go shopping in WORKS time and visit more DRIVE THRU'S......
Stick to what your good at ie watching Jeremy Kyle and
drinking tenants super strength.
Rumpole
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10:44am Sun 12 Feb 12
Maybe if you numpty police had the balls to tackle crimes committed by those at the top end of society, i.e. bankers, politicians, councillors, solicitors etc. then there wouldn't be so much crime at the bottom end of society.
But then again, they haven't got the brains to carry out an investigation into those at the top, even when someone else does the hard work in collecting the evidence for them and hands it to them on a plate.
wulver
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1:12pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF
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9:21pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Rumpole wrote:Why do my comments have to make me a cop?
Cha'mone MF must be a copper to make comments like that.
Maybe if you numpty police had the balls to tackle crimes committed by those at the top end of society, i.e. bankers, politicians, councillors, solicitors etc. then there wouldn't be so much crime at the bottom end of society.
But then again, they haven't got the brains to carry out an investigation into those at the top, even when someone else does the hard work in collecting the evidence for them and hands it to them on a plate.
Far from it. I'm just an ordinary member of the public who thinks that under the circumstances the Police so the best they can in very challenging times and an increasingly difficult society. They make colossal f*ck ups from time to time and have bad apes in the barrel, of course they do. But the same could be said about every other profession. The problem is that somebody has to enforce the laws of this land regardless of what you think of them. The reason why people like you don't like the cops is that you don't like being told off for doing wrong. You were probably the same at school and the same with your parents, you don't like authority. Well I've got news for you, somebody has to do it and if you don't like the way that the Police "Police" this country then why don't you f*ck off to North Korea or Syria and see how you like it there.
Try and have a bit of respect for those who are there to look after you. If your house got burgled or you got filled in you'd be on the blower to the cops demanding help wouldn't you?
Cha'mone MF
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9:24pm Sun 12 Feb 12
wulver wrote:Another whinging bellend that's just got three points on his licence.
Well said Rumpole, I totally agree with every word and as for Chamone MF, well we all know what MF stands for dont we lol, enough said !!!
Cha'mone MF
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9:27pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF wrote:"Apples in the barrel", not apes. That would just be wrong.
Rumpole wrote:Why do my comments have to make me a cop?
Cha'mone MF must be a copper to make comments like that.
Maybe if you numpty police had the balls to tackle crimes committed by those at the top end of society, i.e. bankers, politicians, councillors, solicitors etc. then there wouldn't be so much crime at the bottom end of society.
But then again, they haven't got the brains to carry out an investigation into those at the top, even when someone else does the hard work in collecting the evidence for them and hands it to them on a plate.
Far from it. I'm just an ordinary member of the public who thinks that under the circumstances the Police so the best they can in very challenging times and an increasingly difficult society. They make colossal f*ck ups from time to time and have bad apes in the barrel, of course they do. But the same could be said about every other profession. The problem is that somebody has to enforce the laws of this land regardless of what you think of them. The reason why people like you don't like the cops is that you don't like being told off for doing wrong. You were probably the same at school and the same with your parents, you don't like authority. Well I've got news for you, somebody has to do it and if you don't like the way that the Police "Police" this country then why don't you f*ck off to North Korea or Syria and see how you like it there.
Try and have a bit of respect for those who are there to look after you. If your house got burgled or you got filled in you'd be on the blower to the cops demanding help wouldn't you?
God dam IPhones.
wulver
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11:31am Mon 13 Feb 12
Rumpole
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1:04pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF wrote:You're right, somebody does have to enforce the laws of the land but it wouldn't be so bad if they enforced the law equally across the whole of society instead of just the drivers and farmers.
Rumpole wrote:Why do my comments have to make me a cop?
Cha'mone MF must be a copper to make comments like that.
Maybe if you numpty police had the balls to tackle crimes committed by those at the top end of society, i.e. bankers, politicians, councillors, solicitors etc. then there wouldn't be so much crime at the bottom end of society.
But then again, they haven't got the brains to carry out an investigation into those at the top, even when someone else does the hard work in collecting the evidence for them and hands it to them on a plate.
Far from it. I'm just an ordinary member of the public who thinks that under the circumstances the Police so the best they can in very challenging times and an increasingly difficult society. They make colossal f*ck ups from time to time and have bad apes in the barrel, of course they do. But the same could be said about every other profession. The problem is that somebody has to enforce the laws of this land regardless of what you think of them. The reason why people like you don't like the cops is that you don't like being told off for doing wrong. You were probably the same at school and the same with your parents, you don't like authority. Well I've got news for you, somebody has to do it and if you don't like the way that the Police "Police" this country then why don't you f*ck off to North Korea or Syria and see how you like it there.
Try and have a bit of respect for those who are there to look after you. If your house got burgled or you got filled in you'd be on the blower to the cops demanding help wouldn't you?
I currently have no respect for the police and can't see that changing until they do a complete job and not just the selective policing that they do at the moment!
Cha'mone MF
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4:33pm Mon 13 Feb 12
wulver wrote:Now did that really happen or are you sensationalising your version of events in Oder to give yourself a more credible platform to shout from.
Ha ha deary me Chamone, you're certainly pro police. Your latest comments are a bit better but still far from the mark and as for the Jeremy Kyle and Tennents super strength quips, I'm sure they were said to get a response. The reasons why I made comments are because not long ago we had a police response after some young lad tried throwing a brick through our window and when I caught him and phoned the police as you're told to do, I was told by a WPC and I quote " to roll my neck in or I would be arrested " and that is the reason why I made my comments. At least when we complained to her superiors, a very nice seargeant came round and apologised. I do stand by the comments made earlier about shopping as weve seen them and followed them round Tesco's on a few occasions. Last but not least Chamone, have a nice day.
"Hello Police, I've detained a youth attempting to cause criminal damage to my property, I would like an officer to attend please?" reply "Roll your neck in or you will be arrested". Does that really sound plausible? It's more than likely that you said something along the lines of "If you don't get round here quick I'll break his neck" in which case are you really that surprised you were threatened with arrest? In any event the call would have been recorded and I'm sure the IPCC would have helped you if you were really upset at the service you had received.
You are also judging the whole Police service on one bad experience, thus displaying more than a certain degree of narrow mindedness I reckon.
Cha'mone MF
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4:46pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Rumpole wrote:So they target nobody but farmers and drivers do they? That one sentence sums up how narrow minded you are in your views on this subject.
Cha'mone MF wrote:You're right, somebody does have to enforce the laws of the land but it wouldn't be so bad if they enforced the law equally across the whole of society instead of just the drivers and farmers.
Rumpole wrote:Why do my comments have to make me a cop?
Cha'mone MF must be a copper to make comments like that.
Maybe if you numpty police had the balls to tackle crimes committed by those at the top end of society, i.e. bankers, politicians, councillors, solicitors etc. then there wouldn't be so much crime at the bottom end of society.
But then again, they haven't got the brains to carry out an investigation into those at the top, even when someone else does the hard work in collecting the evidence for them and hands it to them on a plate.
Far from it. I'm just an ordinary member of the public who thinks that under the circumstances the Police so the best they can in very challenging times and an increasingly difficult society. They make colossal f*ck ups from time to time and have bad apes in the barrel, of course they do. But the same could be said about every other profession. The problem is that somebody has to enforce the laws of this land regardless of what you think of them. The reason why people like you don't like the cops is that you don't like being told off for doing wrong. You were probably the same at school and the same with your parents, you don't like authority. Well I've got news for you, somebody has to do it and if you don't like the way that the Police "Police" this country then why don't you f*ck off to North Korea or Syria and see how you like it there.
Try and have a bit of respect for those who are there to look after you. If your house got burgled or you got filled in you'd be on the blower to the cops demanding help wouldn't you?
I currently have no respect for the police and can't see that changing until they do a complete job and not just the selective policing that they do at the moment!
Do you have any knowledge of how the Police operate or are you basing your opinions on what you see in the media? Because that's an accurate source that gives information thats fair and balanced isn't it ?
Your lack of respect clearly
derives from a previous experience with the Police where you were felt hard done by.
Cha'mone MF
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4:47pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Do you have any knowledge of how the Police operate or are you basing your opinions on what you see in the media? Because that's an accurate source that gives information thats fair and balanced isn't it ?
Your lack of respect clearly
derives from a previous experience with the Police where you were felt hard done by.
wulver
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6:02pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Cha'mone MF
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7:28pm Mon 13 Feb 12
........I still bet you've got points on your driving licence! :)
Rumpole
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9:45pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Corruption starts at the top and works its way down so how far down has it traveled within the police?
How many coppers stand up to their corrupt bosses and object to having to persecute ordinary working people instead of investigating those at the top and higher up in society that think they are above the law because they have certain qualifications and are in the top pay bracket?
Not very many i would bet!
According to a certain Police Inspector in Blackburn some crimes are too expensive or time consuming for them to investigate and conspiracies cannot happen so won't be investigated regardless of how much evidence is staring them in the face!
makaveli96 says...
4:35pm Thu 9 Feb 12
"I'm too drunk, you get in."