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Lancashire's most prolific fixed speed cameras revealed (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Lancashire's most prolific fixed speed cameras revealed
9:30am Thursday 21st July 2011 in News
By Sam Chadderton, Reporter
NUMBER ONE SITE A59 Longsight Road, near Abbott Brow in Osbaldeston
MORE than 25,000 tickets were issued in 2010 from fixed speed cameras in Lancashire, according to new figures released yesterday.
The fixed camera on the A59 Longsight Road near Abbot Brow, Osbaldeston, caught out 2,569 motorists in 2010 – 600 more than the next highest figure.
Of those, 921 paid £55,000 in fines and a further 1,257 paid a total of £106,000 to go on a speed awareness course.
Many motorists, including Blackburn Rovers players on their way to training, were trapped in Longsight Road in November and December when the limit changed from 40mph to 30mph and warning signs were hidden.
They have now been moved but dozens of those caught are appealing through the courts.
There has been no-one killed or seriously injured on Longsight Road since 2007.
The second-most tickets were issued from a camera in Rossendale Road, Burnley, with 1,900 people caught out.
Yesterday we spoke to residents, who said they weren't surprised at the total as the road used to be a 40mph limit before work started on Hameldon College a few years ago.
Other hotspots in East Lancashire include the A682 Manchester Road, near St Matthew Street, Burnley, which caught 567 speeders, and Manchester Road in Nelson, near Farrer St, which snared 244.
The A671 Market Street, Shawforth, trapped 385 motorists. They raised a combined £26,750 in fines.
East Lancashire’s least effective speed cameras are in Shear Brow, Blackburn, with only eight people caught, and Burnley Road, Rawtenstall, with only two people caught.
In total in Lancashire more than 25,000 tickets were issued in 2010 from fixed speed cameras, according to new figures released yesterday.
Lancashire County Council and the police have pledged to use the figures, published for the first time today by Lancashire Partnership for Road Safety, to axe cameras which raise money but don’t reduce accident figures.
They had previously refused to release figures because of concerns that vandals would target cameras, as they have done in Blakewater Road, Blackburn.
Across the entire county, 49,825 people were caught speeding on fixed and mobile sites, with 21,809 fined and given points and 15,458 given speed awareness courses.
This coincides with Lancashire’s accident figures being at a 30-year low.
The cameras brought in £2.6m in 2010, the majority of which goes to central government.
The police receive £35 from every course. The Lancashire Partnership for Road Safety also gets a small percentage.
Lancashire’s Assistant Chief Constable Andy Rhodes, said: “Road safety cameras are intended to reduce the average speed of motorists on roads where there is evidence that speeding is an issue.
“We are committed to reducing the number of people killed and injured on the county’s roads and we will continue to use cameras to help us achieve this.”
Tim Ashton, the county council cabinet member for highways and transport, said: “Using cameras is just one of the ways we've been able to make our roads safer and reduce the number of people killed and seriously injured by more than 40 per cent in five years.”
In Lancashire there are 285 fixed safety camera sites.
East Lancashire top 10
1 A59 Longsight Road, Osbaldeston, 2589
2 A646 Rossendale Road, Burnley, 1901
3 A682 Manchester Road, Burnley, 567
4 A6119 Whitebirk Road. Blackburn, 396
5 A671 Market Street, Shawforth, 385
6 A666 Bolton Road (Longshaw Ln), Darwen, 345
7 A682 Manchester Road, Nelson, 244
8 A6114 Belvedere Road, Burnley, 222
9 A679 Hyndburn Road, Accrington, 211
10= A6114 Queen Victoria Road, Burnley, 190
10= B6447 Buncer Lane, Blackburn, 190.
Lancashire County Council top 10
1 A59 Longsight Road, Osbaldeston, 2589
2 A646 Rossendale Road, Burnley, 1901
3 A6 London Road, Preston 1767
4 A5029 Parbold Hill, Parbold, 1126
5 A6 Garstang Road, Preston, 808
6 A59 Guildway, Preston, 693
7 A6 Shepherds Way, Chorley, 648
8 Portway, Preston, 642
9 A5085 Blackpool Road, Preston, 632
10 A6 Bengal Street, Chorley, 627.
Blackburn with Darwen top 10
1 A6119 Whitebirk Road 396
2 A666 Bolton Road (Longshaw Ln) 345
3 B6447 Buncer Lane, 190
4 B6447 Stancliffe Street, 159
5 A666 Bolton Road (Swan St), 157
6 A678 Burnley Road, 129
7 A677 Copy Nook 125
8 A677 Barbara Castle Way, 106
9 A666 Whalley New Road, 76
10 A674 Preston Old Road, 67.
Click on the links below to see the full totals.
Comments(42)
happycyclist
says...
10:03am Wed 20 Jul 11
Pendlesider wrote:Well if the camera can see you, you should be able to see the camera.
Replace the word 'prolific' with 'covertly hidden. that's £60 x 2,500 = £150,000 in 12 months for ONE covertly hidden camera. or £1.5Million for all of Lancashire. above assumes fpn and no court costs.
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This cameras location should be reported to The Department of Transport, as doing so should result in the particular authority being removed from the "netting-off scheme" which allows them to keep part of the revenue collected by their speed cameras. If the camera is obscured by tree branches request they be removed.
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Speed cameras must be visible from a distance of 66 yards ( 60 metres) on roads with a speed limit of up to 40mph ( 64 Kmph), and 109 yards ( 100 metres) for speeds above that.
It's not about speed cameras though, it's about speed limits, and you should be keeping to them whether there are cameras there or not. And if you don't know the speed limits then you shouldn't really be on the roads. They're the round signs, red border, big black number -THAT'S the speed limit. Keep to it or pay up; your choice.
Dickiepayshey
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10:43am Wed 20 Jul 11
CapitaBackHander
says...
11:14am Wed 20 Jul 11
Answer this - the main road (St Peters Way to the Motorway) through Bolton is a 50 mph rd. Before the cameras and reduced speed limit how many accidents were there? After the icameras (3 and 2!) how many accidents have there been each year?
These figures change each year re driver in certain situ and set of circumstances. You can't say road safety and cameras have caused the drop - certainly never say they are to blame when there is an accident.
p.s. never caught by camera, I just can't stand bad publicity.
Look at Blackpool - many many cameras along the front but they have just created the most dangerous road situation along the front. My guess would be 15 deaths a year any many many accidents.
mys
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11:28am Wed 20 Jul 11
CLARETMINTY
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11:41am Wed 20 Jul 11
CLARETMINTY
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11:46am Wed 20 Jul 11
People rely on sat nav's too much nowadays instead of using there own initiative
Wetwangman
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11:58am Wed 20 Jul 11
useyourhead
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12:19pm Wed 20 Jul 11
Seneca
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12:42pm Wed 20 Jul 11
There should be more speed cameras, it isn't stealth tax it's a voluntary tax. If you don't speed you don't pay and stop painting them yellow there shouldn't be a warning where they are.
Armchair Warrior
says...
1:36pm Wed 20 Jul 11
Seneca wrote:Yawn
Oh what fun it is to see the flash of the camera when some t1t has just overtaken at silly speed. There should be more speed cameras, it isn't stealth tax it's a voluntary tax. If you don't speed you don't pay and stop painting them yellow there shouldn't be a warning where they are.
Alf Hart
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2:08pm Wed 20 Jul 11
It`s not a speed camera they`ve got there, it`s a pot of gold for Lancashire police.
Pendlesider
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2:45pm Wed 20 Jul 11
happycyclist wrote:"Well if the camera can see you, you should be able to see the camera."
Pendlesider wrote:Well if the camera can see you, you should be able to see the camera.
Replace the word 'prolific' with 'covertly hidden. that's £60 x 2,500 = £150,000 in 12 months for ONE covertly hidden camera. or £1.5Million for all of Lancashire. above assumes fpn and no court costs.
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This cameras location should be reported to The Department of Transport, as doing so should result in the particular authority being removed from the "netting-off scheme" which allows them to keep part of the revenue collected by their speed cameras. If the camera is obscured by tree branches request they be removed.
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Speed cameras must be visible from a distance of 66 yards ( 60 metres) on roads with a speed limit of up to 40mph ( 64 Kmph), and 109 yards ( 100 metres) for speeds above that.
It's not about speed cameras though, it's about speed limits, and you should be keeping to them whether there are cameras there or not. And if you don't know the speed limits then you shouldn't really be on the roads. They're the round signs, red border, big black number -THAT'S the speed limit. Keep to it or pay up; your choice.
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don't talk nonsense the lens is facing the opposite way and I avoid travelling at excess speeds above limits and have never been done for speeding. It's the visibility of the GATSO CAMERA in question, not some imaginary sign you seem to have just made up. stick to the topic.
halfhearted
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5:56pm Wed 20 Jul 11
Figures have proved that these cameras have not,and I presume never will reduce the number of accidents. But the Government and Police will never admit this as it is one ofe the main sources of income.
I do not encourage speeding,but unlike those who comment on here who rub their hands with glee stating it is a capital offence to do so,must not drive a motor vehicle or have been very very lucky they too have not been caught.
Many drivers when approaching these cameras are so tied up in speedo watching they are not concentrating on the road.
These cameras are a substitute for the Traffic Department,and most people would like to see more Police vehicles on the road than these machines.
Crime prevention and detection would appear to be secondary these days to motoring offences.
jghazanfar
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6:44pm Wed 20 Jul 11
Nowadays Its all about money - when your car breaks down the police call the recovery truck police get paid a commission, when police attend an accident they “refer” you to an accident claims company they get paid a commission..
Every day i see 5 to 10 police cars driving up and down the main road stopping drivers, but they never have a single patrol available to patrol the streets.
Dealing with violence, anti social behaviour drugs and thefts doesn’t seem to be the priority anymore
stilladarrener
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7:11pm Wed 20 Jul 11
working chap
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9:22pm Wed 20 Jul 11
Seneca wrote:More cameras please. It is a tax on stupid, impatient bad drivers. No one has to speed so no one has to pay speeding fines. You speed, you pay - simples!
Oh what fun it is to see the flash of the camera when some t1t has just overtaken at silly speed.
There should be more speed cameras, it isn't stealth tax it's a voluntary tax. If you don't speed you don't pay and stop painting them yellow there shouldn't be a warning where they are.
"Archaea"
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11:44pm Wed 20 Jul 11
bburnrover
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9:29am Thu 21 Jul 11
I think this one is designed to raise funds as 30 mph is a ridiculously low speed on a major A road.I am suprised it does not create more accidents with people being rear ended by the idiots that drive police cars.
bburnrover
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9:35am Thu 21 Jul 11
Plasticbertrand
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11:10am Thu 21 Jul 11
Finally the positioning of this camera is far from safe. Motorists who may be slightly above the 30MPH speed instantly look at their speedometer followed by their rear view mirror whilst passing the entrance of the school. Any dimwitt would know that this is a recipe for disaster, but perhaps Lancashire Road Safety Parnership have hired David Blunkett to select the locations for their cameras.
Plasticbertrand
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11:10am Thu 21 Jul 11
Finally the positioning of this camera is far from safe. Motorists who may be slightly above the 30MPH speed instantly look at their speedometer followed by their rear view mirror whilst passing the entrance of the school. Any dimwitt would know that this is a recipe for disaster, but perhaps Lancashire Road Safety Parnership have hired David Blunkett to select the locations for their cameras.
ipb1962
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12:10pm Thu 21 Jul 11
I am still fighting my ticket along with a number of other people. What happened to the backbone of all the people who just capitulated and paid up.
ipb1962
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12:18pm Thu 21 Jul 11
The Osbaldeston camera caught hundreds of people who were driving within the original speed limit and IT IS incumbent on the local authority to make sure the signs and road markings comply with the regulations, in that regard they failed miserably.
happycyclist
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12:42pm Thu 21 Jul 11
ipb1962 wrote:Yeah, I know that and think those people should be recompensed.
Secondly to all those holier than thou people who have posted on here.
The Osbaldeston camera caught hundreds of people who were driving within the original speed limit and IT IS incumbent on the local authority to make sure the signs and road markings comply with the regulations, in that regard they failed miserably.
The 'holier than thou' attitude crops up every time the subject of speed cameras crops up though because some people absolutely refuse to accept any responsibility for their driving.
xrjxman
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12:47pm Thu 21 Jul 11
Livesey Branch Road has been a source of speeding problems for many years now.. yet the cameras there do not even register on the list DESPITE the least tickets shown is EIGHT,
STILL however the road is blighted by a combination of boy racers in their little souped up astras, clios and polos AND (worse still) the yobs in the Subaru Impretzas, screaming up and down regularly in the afternoons, evenings and weekends.
What do they do when complaints are made.... send the camera van mid morning or early afternoon. All they catch are ordinary motorists a few mph over the limit going about their normal law abiding lives.
RUBBISH... all of it
xrjxman
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12:48pm Thu 21 Jul 11
Livesey Branch Road has been a source of speeding problems for many years now.. yet the cameras there do not even register on the list DESPITE the least tickets shown is EIGHT,
STILL however the road is blighted by a combination of boy racers in their little souped up astras, clios and polos AND (worse still) the yobs in the Subaru Impretzas, screaming up and down regularly in the afternoons, evenings and weekends.
What do they do when complaints are made.... send the camera van mid morning or early afternoon. All they catch are ordinary motorists a few mph over the limit going about their normal law abiding lives.
RUBBISH... all of it
Burnleymumof1
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1:21pm Thu 21 Jul 11
I'm sure there were far more 40mph signs visable before it was changed to 30. Funny how there's just the one now.
Plasticbertrand
says...
1:39pm Thu 21 Jul 11
On my daily commute I witness at least 14 traffic offenses every day, from driving whilst using a mobile phone, boy racing, unsafe vehicles and groups of unrestrained persons traveling in vehicles that are only designed to carry five persons, but the police do 'sweet father Abrahams' about it.
I therefore believe that like Jo Turton, (the head oh highways at LCC), Bob Eastwood appears to be someone who has been promoted way beyond his actual ability, yet we as tax payers are paying his wages for a less than mediocre performance.
I predict a riot
says...
12:02am Fri 22 Jul 11
bburnrover wrote:Tell Leon Atkinson's family that 30mph is a ridiculously low speed for this stretch of road.
The problem is the fact that some speedlimits are too low for the type of road they are on.The Longsite road one or A59 at Osbaldeston is a case in question it was 40 mph and is now 30 mph I use it a lot and did not realise it had changed until I read about it. I think this one is designed to raise funds as 30 mph is a ridiculously low speed on a major A road.I am suprised it does not create more accidents with people being rear ended by the idiots that drive police cars.
He lost his life at this spot back in 2007 aged just 24. Yes he made a fatal error and pulled out into the path of a car and skip waggon but he'd still be with us today if the traffic he pulled out into was travelling at 30mph.
And for those posters stating that these camera's are hidden, if you can't see a bright yellow 2ft square box on a 6ft high post you really shouldn't be driving in the first place.
CapitaBackHander
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12:10am Fri 22 Jul 11
Burnleymumof1 wrote:That is totally irrelevant. What made you think it was 40mph? You should assume the speed limit is 30mph unless marked otherwise.
I was caught on Rossendale Road doing 37 in what I thought was a 40 mph zone. I went back and checked and did actually see one road sign displaying the 30mph limit. This had been vandalised with blue spray paint.
I'm sure there were far more 40mph signs visable before it was changed to 30. Funny how there's just the one now.
CapitaBackHander
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2:17am Fri 22 Jul 11
I predict a riot wrote:Oh in that case let's reduce all roads to ten mph. What a stupid way to make a totally invalid point. I don't know anything about case but that sounds like the same stupidity re a death in Darwen where certain people want railings to protect drunks from killing themselves. Strange that their own taxi drivers still park up and drive dangerously at same spot.
bburnrover wrote:Tell Leon Atkinson's family that 30mph is a ridiculously low speed for this stretch of road.
The problem is the fact that some speedlimits are too low for the type of road they are on.The Longsite road one or A59 at Osbaldeston is a case in question it was 40 mph and is now 30 mph I use it a lot and did not realise it had changed until I read about it. I think this one is designed to raise funds as 30 mph is a ridiculously low speed on a major A road.I am suprised it does not create more accidents with people being rear ended by the idiots that drive police cars.
He lost his life at this spot back in 2007 aged just 24. Yes he made a fatal error and pulled out into the path of a car and skip waggon but he'd still be with us today if the traffic he pulled out into was travelling at 30mph.
And for those posters stating that these camera's are hidden, if you can't see a bright yellow 2ft square box on a 6ft high post you really shouldn't be driving in the first place.
Lifeinthemix
says...
9:50am Fri 22 Jul 11
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and the manner in which this is achieved is unjust therefore the same are enriching the corporate in an unjust fashion...send that as a response to any and all speeding and parking fines...
Plasticbertrand
says...
1:22pm Fri 22 Jul 11
I predict a riot wrote:I somehow doubt that anyone would survive being hit by an 18 ton skip lorry, even if it was travelling at 30 MPH. Moreover there have been fatalities on all of our motorways, since they were created, so by your argument these should be reduced to 30MPH too.
bburnrover wrote:Tell Leon Atkinson's family that 30mph is a ridiculously low speed for this stretch of road.
The problem is the fact that some speedlimits are too low for the type of road they are on.The Longsite road one or A59 at Osbaldeston is a case in question it was 40 mph and is now 30 mph I use it a lot and did not realise it had changed until I read about it. I think this one is designed to raise funds as 30 mph is a ridiculously low speed on a major A road.I am suprised it does not create more accidents with people being rear ended by the idiots that drive police cars.
He lost his life at this spot back in 2007 aged just 24. Yes he made a fatal error and pulled out into the path of a car and skip waggon but he'd still be with us today if the traffic he pulled out into was travelling at 30mph.
And for those posters stating that these camera's are hidden, if you can't see a bright yellow 2ft square box on a 6ft high post you really shouldn't be driving in the first place.
The sad geeks that run the speed awareness course, always bang on about if there is a system of street lighting then you should assume that it is a 30 mph zone. My question is just how many lampost must you count, since you last saw a speed sign before reducing down to 30mph, just to be on the safe side. It's all a crock of poo.
bigted
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5:13pm Fri 22 Jul 11
so that leaves 12,558 who were let off? i reckon many drivers in blackburn will have an address outside of the EU for situations just like this... or was it the old "trouser leg up, funny handshake, thankyou very much brother chief inspector?"
whatever the reason: 12000 people NOT brought to book is just unacceptable
bigted
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5:23pm Fri 22 Jul 11
Not vandals. Heros. I applaud anybody who knocks those things down.
I'd rather see no cash-cow cameras at all on our roads. But if they do have to be there, then it needs to be the same justice for all.
pdb951
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8:50pm Fri 22 Jul 11
You people can't even see red traffic lights so it's a bit ripe hreading your comment
mysay.com
says...
9:37pm Fri 22 Jul 11
secondly, the worse culprets for speeding are the police, i have watched and commented on the fact that the police slow down for these cameras and then speed up again once they have passed them, i have followed police cars along 30 mph roads in excess of 60mph, if they are not responding to an emergency they are bound by the same laws as the rest of us so unless they are showing blue lights, follow them and maintain the flow of traffic.
95% of convictions are gained by admission only, unless they have hand delivered the notices to you, and gained a signature, they have NOT been served and they have no proof that they ever even sent them, stop accepting delivery by signing them and sending them back.
If you are caught speeding, by a police officer who gains a signature form you at the scene, you have NOT been caught speeding, only photographed in a vehicle on a rd by a machine, you may have been doing 28 in a 30 zone and got past a camera scot free with 16 pints under your skin, and thats acceptable is it?
How many of these cameras have actually shown a reduction in the nnumber of accidents, solely the cameras, not in conjuction with police presence or speed awareness campaigns or anything else which actually does something, but just cameras which only make money?
Darwenbert
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11:41pm Sat 23 Jul 11
Darwenbert
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11:42pm Sat 23 Jul 11
Darwenbert
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11:47pm Sat 23 Jul 11
rasuk.com/speed-came
ra-types.htm worth a look just to keep you up to speed pardon the pun
speedindan
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12:06pm Tue 26 Jul 11
ions.co.uk - Shut down the lot of em I say, there must be a better, more effective way of controlling speeding maniacs.
Pendlesider says...
9:08am Wed 20 Jul 11
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This cameras location should be reported to The Department of Transport, as doing so should result in the particular authority being removed from the "netting-off scheme" which allows them to keep part of the revenue collected by their speed cameras. If the camera is obscured by tree branches request they be removed.
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Speed cameras must be visible from a distance of 66 yards ( 60 metres) on roads with a speed limit of up to 40mph ( 64 Kmph), and 109 yards ( 100 metres) for speeds above that.