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Burnley mum forced to buy ice for son's broken ankle in Blackburn hospital

COLD COMFORT Deborah and Andrew Sanderson with ice they had to buy for their son in Royal Blackburn Hospital COLD COMFORT Deborah and Andrew Sanderson with ice they had to buy for their son in Royal Blackburn Hospital

A MUM was forced to buy bags of ice to treat her son’s broken ankle after nurses said all their ice machines were broken.

Debra Sanderson said her son was told by doctors at Royal Blackburn Hospital his leg needed to be packed with ice to reduce heavy swelling so he could undergo an operation.

But when she asked nurses for ice, Mrs Sanderson said she was told they had run out.

She said she was forced to visit a supermarket twice a day to buy ice cubes herself for her son, who spent 10 days in hospital after injuring his ankle while playing football.

Burnley MP Gordon Birtwistle, who complained on Mrs Sanderson’s behalf to East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust, branded the man’s care ‘appalling’.

Hospital bosses said ice had been available elsewhere in the hospital, but the trust admitted this had not been made clear to the family.

Mrs Sanderson, 45, of Sutton Avenue, Burnley, said her son was taken to Blackburn by ambulance and was visited by a consultant the following day.

She said she was told her son’s leg would need to be kept elevated and packed with ice.

“When we went in to see him on the Sunday he was in some discomfort,” she said.

“I asked the nurses if he could have his ice replaced because it had begun to melt.

“When we went back that evening it still hadn’t been done.

“I asked a nurse again because nearly five hours had elapsed. She said ‘unfortunately we’ve no ice’.

“I said, ‘I’m sure in a hospital this size there is somewhere you can get some ice’, and she said ‘we can’t, the machines are all broken’.

“I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.”

Mrs Sanderson decided to take the matter into her own hands and set off to a local garage, where she bought a pack of ice to give to her son and put in the ward’s fridge freezer.

She said: “Every day I took two bags of ice, one in the afternoon and one at night time, for a week.”

Mrs Sanderson said the problem was only addressed after she contacted Burnley MP Gordon Birtwistle, who complained on her behalf to trust bosses.

Her son eventually had the operation and was discharged on Sunday, May 29.

Mrs Sanderson said: “It’s not so much the money, because the ice cost about £3 a day.

"It’s that I don’t want it to happen to anybody else.

“We’ve had an email saying it was a lack of communication, but it wasn’t a lack of communication in my opinion, it was neglect.”

Mr Birtwistle said it was ‘ridiculous’ that Mrs Sanderson should have to buy ice to treat her son’s injury.

He said: “The lady told me this story and I found it hard to believe.

“Why should they have to come to see me, to tell me what their son hasn’t had in hospital, to get it sorted out?

"With all those administrators at the hospital, some of them on obscene salaries, why couldn’t they deal with it?

“The care he received was appalling.”

Lynn Wissett, deputy chief executive of East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust, said it had contacted the family within four hours of receiving Mr Birtwistle’s email and met with them the next day.

She said: “The patient’s leg needed a very large amount of ice to reduce the swelling, meaning ice flowing through the ward’s machine was not quite enough.

“There are a number of machines across the hospital and the trust has always had enough ice to meet the needs of patients.

“Unfortunately, the availability of ice elsewhere in the hospital had not been made clear to the patient and his family.

“At our meeting, we explained that enough ice was always available to meet all of our patients’ needs, and further explained this patient’s treatment plan.

“We are, as with any patient, happy to meet with this patient and his family again.”

Comments(19)

Larry916 says...
9:39am Wed 8 Jun 11

This does not surprise me at all.... I took my 5 year old to RBH over Christmas, she had a blazing temperature and when I asked for some Calpol (after waiting to be seen for 3 hours) I was told I should of give her some before we came out. Then after returning THREE times to A&E she was finally diagnosed with Pneumonia. It's a joke and the reason is because they closed Burnley, so the hospital is catering for far too many. Ridiculous!!

Lifeinthemix says...
10:03am Wed 8 Jun 11

and the message is....if you break your ankle don't go to hospital, find a witch doctor instead, its cheaper and you get a free massage!

GrumpyofClayton says...
11:11am Wed 8 Jun 11

Doesn't a brand new hospital of that size not have freezers in the catering dept?! Im sure the 'machines' the nurse mentioned were not ordinary freezers that could have made some ice very easily. It isn't rocket science.

Where is common sense when you need it? Bloody incredible.

I hope the poor lad makes a good recovery.

Izanears says...
11:11am Wed 8 Jun 11

I fell and badly injured my foot recently.
Doctors don't do house-calls so I limped to the surgery. Until I insisted the doc was not even going to look at my hugely swollen foot. Only an Xray will tell us whether it is broken or not, he said, but even then, all that can be done is to strap it up. I sat there expecting the doc or perhaps the practice nurse to do it, but no, I had to buy bandages, then hobble home and do it myself.

porky06 says...
2:12pm Wed 8 Jun 11

dont know why there complaining.that ice is very good.its still not melted.

CapitaBackHander says...
3:29pm Wed 8 Jun 11

Izanears wrote:
I fell and badly injured my foot recently. Doctors don't do house-calls so I limped to the surgery. Until I insisted the doc was not even going to look at my hugely swollen foot. Only an Xray will tell us whether it is broken or not, he said, but even then, all that can be done is to strap it up. I sat there expecting the doc or perhaps the practice nurse to do it, but no, I had to buy bandages, then hobble home and do it myself.
But to be honest you didn't badly injure your foot, you sprained it or bruised it so the doctor - you sure it wasn't the triage nurse - was advising you that it would be quicker to go home. You probably didn't sit there long enough (3 or 4 hours for your injury would be norm) for them to treat you.

gutterpress says...
3:35pm Wed 8 Jun 11

There would be no 3 or 4 hour waiting times in A&E if the chavs would stop treating it like a night out with their trivial little complaints taking up doctors' and nurses' valuable time.

kempy says...
6:02pm Wed 8 Jun 11

Surely the hospital staff would have found some if asked I find it very hard to think that if Ice was required the consultant or doctors would have demanded they got some.I agree with gutterpress,darwen .when I was in hospital i was on a ward with people from Burnley,Nelson,both alcoholics re open a&e Burnley wasting hospital beds causing problems for staff wanting to go for fags all through the night.Namby pamby footballers play a proper game like rugby.

Seneca says...
6:39pm Wed 8 Jun 11

gutterpress wrote:
There would be no 3 or 4 hour waiting times in A&E if the chavs would stop treating it like a night out with their trivial little complaints taking up doctors' and nurses' valuable time.
Quite true gutterpress.

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Regardless of mistakes made. Did they make further enquiries about the ice over the 10 days?
Eitherway, I think their local pub landlord would have been happy to supply the ice for nothing.

Fire Fly says...
6:52pm Wed 8 Jun 11

bought ice for a week...when requested by the consultant that the patients leg was treated this way...why not just ask to see the consultant & tell him / her there is no ice...then let them organise it???? Why is it, where the NHS is concerned, people think they don't have to apply common sense & request action when none is happening...yet they always manage to contact an M.P or the LET

holsten pils says...
7:02pm Wed 8 Jun 11

The woman went to buy ice but was not forced ! Nurses are to busy to go looking around the whole hospital for ice . Maintainance should have actually been onto this problem asap . I really doubt ice was needed for 10 days when swelling tends to go down rapidly with ice. An overeaction i think but no doubt as usual the managers will put the blame onto the nurses ,

Geofffrey_Sturdy says...
8:13pm Wed 8 Jun 11

Holsten Pils - it is the job of the Hospital to provide the resources to treat paitients - god knows we pay enough for it , and if the Nurses are TOO busy to go looking for ice then why didn't they pick up a phone, dial maintenance and tell them to get a move on and provide some - this woman's son was in pain and those responsible for treating him were doing nothing - what mother wouldn't rush out and do the same?
If this was an isolated incident then it wouldn't be so bad but it isn't - earlier this week we heard the report of a new born baby that died of an infection after nine days, , but not only did eleven midwives apparantly fail to spot the problem but according to the coroner colluded in covering up their error even to the point of destroying evidence (apparantly tempreture charts went "missing")
There is a sickness within the NHS that no amount of money will cure - it no longer cares , it has lost it's Soul

doleboytrotter says...
8:19pm Wed 8 Jun 11

porky06 wrote:
dont know why there complaining.that ice is very good.its still not melted.
it's probably different ice.

Lifeinthemix says...
9:30pm Wed 8 Jun 11

Seneca wrote:
gutterpress wrote:
There would be no 3 or 4 hour waiting times in A&E if the chavs would stop treating it like a night out with their trivial little complaints taking up doctors' and nurses' valuable time.
Quite true gutterpress.

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Regardless of mistakes made. Did they make further enquiries about the ice over the 10 days?
Eitherway, I think their local pub landlord would have been happy to supply the ice for nothing.
you mean you got a pub round your end???

Ronnietate says...
10:45pm Wed 8 Jun 11

The health care system in Britain is not as bad as many people make it out to be. He's lucky to have been able to stay in hospital for ten days with a broken ankle. I'm sure it was painful, but not life threatening. I'm now living in Canada and unfortunately, here he would have been patched up and sent home, told to elevate his leg, put ice on it and then told to return later as an out patient for the operation. Some things in the UK are not that bad.

Pendlesider says...
8:35am Thu 9 Jun 11

Burnley's children's ward was shut down forcing children to go to this ward in Blackburn where there's not even a pack of ice to relieve pain. But some parts of the article above seem a little obscure.
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The swelling must be reduced prior to the operation so the nurses AND doctors are to blame for not constantly replacing/refilling the ice pack. This would have been on the patients procedural chart, so if no ice were available then the patient should have been transferred to a ward/another hospital where ice was available 24/7. The nurses must have seen the parents filling the ice feeder machine and done nothing, which is neglect. If a nurse did say 'all' our machines (freezers) are broken then again this is wanton neglect.
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It's not the role of the child's carer or relative to run around the hospital fetching and carrying ice-packs so Lynn Wisset - hospital deputy chief executive - is misguilding people by saying the location had not been made clear to the patient and his family. The location SHOULD have been 'made clear' to "staff" to prevent this happening.
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But why did'nt the parents notify the on-call doctor of the ice shortage on his daily rounds? Why 7 days in hospital in traction/ice before anything was done? An operation to align fractured joints surely must be done sooner? Is the Blackburn hospital so overrun and understaffed that basic patient care is being neglected?
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Sadly, this does seem to be the case and all because the hospital in Burnley has been reduced to nothing more than a dormitory for the the Royal Blackburn hospital. Children's in-patient services must eventually be reinstated to Burnley general hospital and this is just one case that highlights the reason why.

Slimplynth says...
12:51pm Thu 9 Jun 11

Obviously the preventative maintenance plan at the hospital needs looking at again. Should probably count yourself lucky it wasn't something in the operating theatre :0S

maxiemooch says...
2:21pm Sat 11 Jun 11

'It's not so much the money' (yeah right.) and would you rather the nurses stop doing their job to go out and get ice? Maybe compromise the health of someone else? It isn't the nurses role to fix ice machines as someone has said above.
The parents should have opened their mouths to the hospital administrators and said something rather than waiting to go and complain to the nearest M.P.

barry joyce says...
4:43am Sun 12 Jun 11

I bet there was enough ice for the countless meetings the administrators have to discuss yet another apoligy for bad treatment
from another deserted resident of Burnley

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