Todmorden Curve could be running by 2013

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FASTER trains could be running between Burnley and Manchester as soon as December 2013 after engineers gave their seal of approval to the project.

Network Rail has completed a detailed assessment into whether the vital Todmorden Curve link could be reinstated.

Its engineers say the project, which would cost between £7.5million and £8million, is feasible, despite complications over the exact route.

This means the only obstacle now is finding the cash.

Keith Lumley, of Network Rail, said: “It is good news. We are saying it can be done.

"From an engineering and railway point of view there is nothing to stop it being done.”

The company’s verdict is a major step forward for the project, which council bosses have made their top rail priority in Lancashire.

The 500-metre stretch of track known as the Todmorden Curve, which has not been used since the 1960s, connects the Burnley to Manchester lines.

Journey times would be cut to 40 minutes.

Commuters currently have to change at Hebden Bridge, Blackburn or Preston, or use the Witch Way bus service, all of which take over an hour.

A single line has been recommended, although it cannot follow the original path because the curve would be too sharp.

Mr Lumley said the engineers had ‘tinkered’ with the route and put forward an alternative.

The project has now completed the first three of eight stages, and the onus on Burnley and Lancashire council chiefs is now to bid for money and submit a final business case to the government.

If cash can be found by early next year, a detailed engineering stage will begin.

The link could then be built, handed back to the rail industry, and begin operating by the end of 2013.

Lancashire County Council’s transport chief, Tim Ashton, said: “Out of seven schemes related to rail in Lancashire, this is our top one.

"I am fully supportive of it.”

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10:27pm Tue 17 May 11

tonygreaves says...

Someone still has to explain why it costs £7-9million to reinstate 500 yards of track.

Tony Greaves
Someone still has to explain why it costs £7-9million to reinstate 500 yards of track. Tony Greaves tonygreaves

11:36pm Tue 17 May 11

s_smith says...

Lets see... erm, track will probably cost about 3 to 4 million in itself when you consider a set of points costs around £100,000 I am led to beleive.
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After that you have signalling, integrating that in to the existing systems and interlocking.
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Add on to that compensation to Northern rail for the possessions to install the points, signalling etc.
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where YOUR £8M will be spent. See, isnt privatisation wonderful.
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And finally the security word "that-fund". The irony.
Lets see... erm, track will probably cost about 3 to 4 million in itself when you consider a set of points costs around £100,000 I am led to beleive. . After that you have signalling, integrating that in to the existing systems and interlocking. . Add on to that compensation to Northern rail for the possessions to install the points, signalling etc. . And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where YOUR £8M will be spent. See, isnt privatisation wonderful. . And finally the security word "that-fund". The irony. s_smith

12:05am Wed 18 May 11

maggie-T says...

s_smith wrote:
Lets see... erm, track will probably cost about 3 to 4 million in itself when you consider a set of points costs around £100,000 I am led to beleive.
.
After that you have signalling, integrating that in to the existing systems and interlocking.
.
Add on to that compensation to Northern rail for the possessions to install the points, signalling etc.
.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where YOUR £8M will be spent. See, isnt privatisation wonderful.
.
And finally the security word "that-fund". The irony.
Privatisation is wonderful , if it's viable without cost to the taxpayer, then it will be reinstated, simple
[quote][p][bold]s_smith[/bold] wrote: Lets see... erm, track will probably cost about 3 to 4 million in itself when you consider a set of points costs around £100,000 I am led to beleive. . After that you have signalling, integrating that in to the existing systems and interlocking. . Add on to that compensation to Northern rail for the possessions to install the points, signalling etc. . And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where YOUR £8M will be spent. See, isnt privatisation wonderful. . And finally the security word "that-fund". The irony.[/p][/quote]Privatisation is wonderful , if it's viable without cost to the taxpayer, then it will be reinstated, simple maggie-T

9:47am Wed 18 May 11

JJordan says...

Tony Greaves raises the issue of cost and that seems to have been reasonably answered by s_smith. He omits however any mention of benefits to the area brought by the reinstatement of the Tod Curve. It's expected to recover its cost in the first year of operation in terms of what it will bring to the local economy. Meanwhile, the cross-rail plans for London are set to cost £8bn - a thousand times more. It strikes me that anyone who supports this area should now be vociferously arguing in favour of the Tod Curve - as it will surely assist the economies of Burnley & Pendle, and enhance the prospects of further inward investment.
Tony Greaves raises the issue of cost and that seems to have been reasonably answered by s_smith. He omits however any mention of benefits to the area brought by the reinstatement of the Tod Curve. It's expected to recover its cost in the first year of operation in terms of what it will bring to the local economy. Meanwhile, the cross-rail plans for London are set to cost £8bn - a thousand times more. It strikes me that anyone who supports this area should now be vociferously arguing in favour of the Tod Curve - as it will surely assist the economies of Burnley & Pendle, and enhance the prospects of further inward investment. JJordan

6:54pm Wed 18 May 11

Noiticer says...

i agree there will be many benefits from this scheme which will greatly enhance local train services as far as Blackburn where the trains via the Curve will terminate but the price tag illustrates the failure of privatisation and the fact that rail schemes are suppose to cost 40% more than in Germany, Holland and France.
i agree there will be many benefits from this scheme which will greatly enhance local train services as far as Blackburn where the trains via the Curve will terminate but the price tag illustrates the failure of privatisation and the fact that rail schemes are suppose to cost 40% more than in Germany, Holland and France. Noiticer

6:54pm Wed 18 May 11

Noiticer says...

i agree there will be many benefits from this scheme which will greatly enhance local train services as far as Blackburn where the trains via the Curve will terminate but the price tag illustrates the failure of privatisation and the fact that rail schemes are suppose to cost 40% more than in Germany, Holland and France.
i agree there will be many benefits from this scheme which will greatly enhance local train services as far as Blackburn where the trains via the Curve will terminate but the price tag illustrates the failure of privatisation and the fact that rail schemes are suppose to cost 40% more than in Germany, Holland and France. Noiticer

5:35pm Thu 19 May 11

glenken says...

JJordan wrote:
Tony Greaves raises the issue of cost and that seems to have been reasonably answered by s_smith. He omits however any mention of benefits to the area brought by the reinstatement of the Tod Curve. It's expected to recover its cost in the first year of operation in terms of what it will bring to the local economy. Meanwhile, the cross-rail plans for London are set to cost £8bn - a thousand times more. It strikes me that anyone who supports this area should now be vociferously arguing in favour of the Tod Curve - as it will surely assist the economies of Burnley & Pendle, and enhance the prospects of further inward investment.
crossrail is costing 16.5 billion!!! which means it will probably cost 20 billion in the end
[quote][p][bold]JJordan[/bold] wrote: Tony Greaves raises the issue of cost and that seems to have been reasonably answered by s_smith. He omits however any mention of benefits to the area brought by the reinstatement of the Tod Curve. It's expected to recover its cost in the first year of operation in terms of what it will bring to the local economy. Meanwhile, the cross-rail plans for London are set to cost £8bn - a thousand times more. It strikes me that anyone who supports this area should now be vociferously arguing in favour of the Tod Curve - as it will surely assist the economies of Burnley & Pendle, and enhance the prospects of further inward investment.[/p][/quote]crossrail is costing 16.5 billion!!! which means it will probably cost 20 billion in the end glenken

9:35am Sat 21 May 11

Burnley_Sailor85 says...

And it can't come too soon- trying to carry a loaded bergen rucksack every weekend from chorlton street bus station to Manchester picadilly is a nightmare. What I don't get though is the track on the curve is still present- ok it will need replacing but why is the original layout "to sharpe" and needs to be "tinkered" with?
And it can't come too soon- trying to carry a loaded bergen rucksack every weekend from chorlton street bus station to Manchester picadilly is a nightmare. What I don't get though is the track on the curve is still present- ok it will need replacing but why is the original layout "to sharpe" and needs to be "tinkered" with? Burnley_Sailor85

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