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Burnley Lib Dem MP may abstain in tuition fees vote

Lancashire Telegraph: MP Gordon Birtwistle MP Gordon Birtwistle

LIBERAL Democrat MP Gordon Birtwistle has warned he could abstain when he votes over the proposed tuition fees hike if his party’s demands are not met.

The Burnley MP said the Lib Dems were calling for further financial assistance for students in deprived areas from the Treasury.

Mr Birtwistle, East Lancashire’s only Lib Dem MP, revealed he had not made a final decision about the vote on Thursday as he was trying to push through further measures to ensure prospective students from Burnley would be able to attend university.

The region’s other MPs have said they be voting in line with their respective political parties.

Mr Birtwistle said: “We are trying to make sure we look after the young people of Burnley.

"Our proposals won’t suit people in leafy suburbs of the Ribble Valley for example, but we have to make sure we protect people from low wage areas such as Burnley.

“People on £25,000 or less should have access to the help fund, for example. If these proposals are agreed then I will vote in favour.

“But if I can’t get the deal that I want for people in Burnley then I will abstain. I will not vote against the proposals.”

Pendle Tory MP Andrew Stephenson said: “I will be voting in favour of the tuition fees rise.

"Looking at the overall package I am in support of the measures.”

Blackburn MP Jack Straw is voting against the plans.

He said: “My profound objection is they are cutting the teaching grants to universities by 80 per cent.

“I think tuition fees would have gone up if we had been in power.

"They would probably be half or less than half of the current proposals.”

Haslingden and Hyndburn MP Graham Jones said he would be opposing the proposals.

He said: “An increase in tuition fees could have a huge impact on the area.”

Rossendale and Darwen MP Jake Berry will be voting in favour of the proposals.

As deputy speaker of the House of Commons Ribble Valley MP Nigel Evans will not be voting but will be announcing the decision after the vote has taken place around 6pm.

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9:10pm Tue 7 Dec 10

wing commander bomber harris says...

he's not paid to be undecided. Grow a pair and stand by your election pledge!
he's not paid to be undecided. Grow a pair and stand by your election pledge! wing commander bomber harris
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9:32pm Tue 7 Dec 10

happycyclist says...

wing commander bomber harris wrote:
he's not paid to be undecided. Grow a pair and stand by your election pledge!
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]wing commander bomber harris[/bold] wrote: he's not paid to be undecided. Grow a pair and stand by your election pledge![/p][/quote]Well said. happycyclist
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9:56pm Tue 7 Dec 10

Dickiepayshey says...

happycyclist wrote:
wing commander bomber harris wrote: he's not paid to be undecided. Grow a pair and stand by your election pledge!
Well said.
Don't be too hard on the poor man.

At least Burnley constituency has gone from the 'Hard Left' to the 'Don't Knows ' at the mo. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]happycyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wing commander bomber harris[/bold] wrote: he's not paid to be undecided. Grow a pair and stand by your election pledge![/p][/quote]Well said.[/p][/quote]Don't be too hard on the poor man. At least Burnley constituency has gone from the 'Hard Left' to the 'Don't Knows ' at the mo. ;-) Dickiepayshey
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10:19pm Tue 7 Dec 10

pendlelad says...

I am dissapointed at Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson who had said during the election campaign he would oppose a rise in tution fees. As a grandparent with two youngsters going to university, i will not be voting for this liar again despite voting Tory in Pendle...he should be ashamed of himself
I am dissapointed at Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson who had said during the election campaign he would oppose a rise in tution fees. As a grandparent with two youngsters going to university, i will not be voting for this liar again despite voting Tory in Pendle...he should be ashamed of himself pendlelad
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10:35pm Tue 7 Dec 10

andy1 says...

An abstension is an easy way of voting Yes and not prepared to take the flak a Cowards way out simple has that.
An abstension is an easy way of voting Yes and not prepared to take the flak a Cowards way out simple has that. andy1
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10:53am Wed 8 Dec 10

Pendlelass says...

@pendlelad, I don’t know when Andrew Stephenson is supposed to have said he would oppose a rise in tuition fees, but I can't find anything on it and don't remember hearing anything.

Labour brought fees in after saying they wouldn’t in the 1997 election and then they introduced top-up fees after having a manifesto commitment that they wouldn’t in the 2001 election.

At the last election neither the Tory or the Labour manifestos ruled out increasing the top-up fee, it was only the Lib Dems who made that promise.
@pendlelad, I don’t know when Andrew Stephenson is supposed to have said he would oppose a rise in tuition fees, but I can't find anything on it and don't remember hearing anything. Labour brought fees in after saying they wouldn’t in the 1997 election and then they introduced top-up fees after having a manifesto commitment that they wouldn’t in the 2001 election. At the last election neither the Tory or the Labour manifestos ruled out increasing the top-up fee, it was only the Lib Dems who made that promise. Pendlelass
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12:36pm Wed 8 Dec 10

andy1 says...

Pendlelass wrote:
@pendlelad, I don’t know when Andrew Stephenson is supposed to have said he would oppose a rise in tuition fees, but I can't find anything on it and don't remember hearing anything.

Labour brought fees in after saying they wouldn’t in the 1997 election and then they introduced top-up fees after having a manifesto commitment that they wouldn’t in the 2001 election.

At the last election neither the Tory or the Labour manifestos ruled out increasing the top-up fee, it was only the Lib Dems who made that promise.
Fair points so if tomorrow Gordon Bertwhistle votes yes or abstaince then we can believe that he can not be trusted on other issues the Lib Dems promised not to vote for in their Manifesto. Thank you Pendlelass.
[quote][p][bold]Pendlelass[/bold] wrote: @pendlelad, I don’t know when Andrew Stephenson is supposed to have said he would oppose a rise in tuition fees, but I can't find anything on it and don't remember hearing anything. Labour brought fees in after saying they wouldn’t in the 1997 election and then they introduced top-up fees after having a manifesto commitment that they wouldn’t in the 2001 election. At the last election neither the Tory or the Labour manifestos ruled out increasing the top-up fee, it was only the Lib Dems who made that promise.[/p][/quote]Fair points so if tomorrow Gordon Bertwhistle votes yes or abstaince then we can believe that he can not be trusted on other issues the Lib Dems promised not to vote for in their Manifesto. Thank you Pendlelass. andy1
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12:51pm Wed 8 Dec 10

MartonBlue says...

He stated on Radio Lancs this morning
that he would be voting for the increase in the fees.
He stated on Radio Lancs this morning that he would be voting for the increase in the fees. MartonBlue
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2:58pm Wed 8 Dec 10

andy1 says...

MartonBlue wrote:
He stated on Radio Lancs this morning
that he would be voting for the increase in the fees.
Just read it now. Gordon Bertwhistle will not to long to go before he can retire. If he lasts until the next G.E that is before hes elected out.
[quote][p][bold]MartonBlue[/bold] wrote: He stated on Radio Lancs this morning that he would be voting for the increase in the fees.[/p][/quote]Just read it now. Gordon Bertwhistle will not to long to go before he can retire. If he lasts until the next G.E that is before hes elected out. andy1
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4:24pm Wed 8 Dec 10

pendlelad says...

check out this site for the liar speaking to students in April

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=ipzHU7c8Z
P8
check out this site for the liar speaking to students in April http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=ipzHU7c8Z P8 pendlelad
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4:54pm Wed 8 Dec 10

masterdebater.co.uk says...

I'll abstain from voting in the next general election then.
I'll abstain from voting in the next general election then. masterdebater.co.uk
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8:31pm Wed 8 Dec 10

happycyclist says...

masterdebater.co.uk wrote:
I'll abstain from voting in the next general election then.
That's the ONLY way to get rid of them.
[quote][p][bold]masterdebater.co.uk[/bold] wrote: I'll abstain from voting in the next general election then.[/p][/quote]That's the ONLY way to get rid of them. happycyclist
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