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10:04am Tuesday 22nd December 2009 in News
By David Watkinson, Deputy news editor
A 'LACK of grit' in residential areas has left roads and pavements 'horrendous' - but the on-street bins won't be re-filled for up to a week.
Only a third of highways are being treated, leaving side roads and cul-de-sacs in a 'horrific' state with more wintery conditions expected in the run-up to Christmas.
Yesterday thousands of bin collections were cancelled for a week because lorries could not access the streets, and taxi drivers said they had been unable to respond to callouts.
Medics reported a busy day in the Accident and Emergency department and the number of shunts reported doubled as drivers battled into work.
One council is considering introducing lockable grit bins because residents are taking the salt to use on their own driveways.
Lancashire County Council only has around two days' worth of rock salt still remaining in its Burnley depot, but highways manager Duncan Reeve insisted more was on its way.
Yesterday he said: "We have been out all day, and there is more severe weather forecast.
"We have to keep on treating the roads."
Mr Reeve said grit bins were being refilled on a rotation basis but added: "As fast as we are filling them they are getting emptied."
He said it would take around a week for a grit bin to be refilled on the current rota.
Bosses were left cursing yesterday morning's snow downpour, which ruined much of the overnight gritting work by covering the salt before cars could grind it into the road surface.
Lancashire and Blackburn with Darwen councils, which together are responsible for all the area's roads, say they grit around 35 per cent of the network, focusing on key A roads and bus routes.
Lancashire has 22 gritting lorries in use in East Lancashire - by far the worst-hit part of the county - and Blackburn with Darwen's four trucks, equipped with snowploughs, are all in use.
According to the AA, the Audit Commission recommends an average of 38 per cent of the road network should be covered.
But the absence of gritting on minor roads and the lack of grit in bins of street coroner has badly hit estates across East Lancashire.
Disabled Albert Monaghan, 61, said his home off New Wellington Street, Mill Hill, Blackburn, had become cut off because no gritting had taken place and grit bins were empty.
Mr Monaghan, who lives in an old people's development, said: "I haven't been outside for days.
"I use a disability scooter and I have no chance out in the snow.
"I can't believe there's no grit and so many roads have just been ignored."
Makbul Patel, vice chairman of Blackburn's Hackney Carriage Association, said: "The council has only been gritting the main roads.
"We have been doing our best, but the roads have been horrendous."
The lack of taxis hit trade at FJ Nichols pub, Northgate, Blackburn, where only 100 of an expected 500 people turned up to a Christmas event.
General manager Chris Wooddissee said: "I don't blame the taxi drivers.
"It was almost impossible to drive in Blackburn. The roads were horrific.
"There didn't seem to be any gritting taking place."
Coun Alan Cottam, the regeneration boss at Blackburn with Darwen Council, said he 'deplored' people taking the grit for their private driveways and said bins that could be locked - with a key given to a resident to manage - were being considered.
And environment director Peter Hunt added: "We have about 400 grit bins, and I am sure every single one is empty now.
"We are filling them up, but not a great deal of it goes on the highways."
Coun Malcolm Pritchard, who sits on Hyndburn Council and Lancashire County Council, said: "The bus routes seem clear but everything else is a real problem.
"I didn't even bother to go outside on Sunday because there just wasn't any point.
"There was very little grit and all of the side roads were dangerous."
Residents in Pendle, where four inches of snow fell in half an hour, said they felt they have been given the 'cold shoulder' by gritters, leaving their streets and pavements dangerous.
One campaigner called for the county council's gritting boss to resign over the latest 'shambles' in the county saying that secondary streets had been left treacherous because grit bins were empty.
Coun David Whipp said: "The gritting service is a shambles.
"The grit bins have laid empty for days and nothing has been done about it.
"No lessons have been learned from problems last year."
Town councillor Jenny Purcell said when her husband Harry, 72, fell ill yesterday with a suspected aneurysm and ambulance crews struggled to reach them at their home in Gisburn Road, Barnoldswick, due to untreated roads.
She said: "We have had no grit for a week and that is unacceptable.
"I blame the county council because the situation has been handled very badly.
"The roads have been atrocious. We were very lucky that the ambulance crews did a fantastic job to get to us and get Harry to hospital in very difficult circumstances."
He is now awaiting diagnosis at Airedale Hospital.
Burnley Council leader Gordon Birtwistle said he had made several calls to County Hall highways officers over the weekend about the state of the borough's snow-covered sidestreets and pavements.
He said: "The main roads in Burnley and Padiham have been gritted and I have got no issue with them, but the sideroads and pavements are treacherous.
"As well as that, the grit bins are all empty and it seems as if drivers have been helping themselves to the grit inside.
"My concern is for elderly residents."
In Rossendale Coun Dorothy Farrington said that many grit bins have been empty for more than a week.
She said: "I have been calling the county council since Thursday and I have still not seen any.
"The whole issue has been handled very badly and it feels like Rossendale really copped it this time.
"We have not been getting what we are supposed to be getting to keep ourselves safe."
About 8,000 households in Blackburn and Darwen will have to wait another week for their rubbish to be collected, with a similar amount expected to be affected today, after refuse lorries were forced to return to the depot.
Comments(32)
DeeBee43
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10:24am Tue 22 Dec 09
slackerbtch
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10:32am Tue 22 Dec 09
Mikeee47
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10:57am Tue 22 Dec 09
Mikeee47
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11:05am Tue 22 Dec 09
slackerbtch wrote:Years ago on the old rate system we had more services for less money, explain to me please, how with all the extra money form the extortionate council tax, why we have all these cuts,
No, you're paying Council Tax for all the other services that are required, some of which you will not use, and some of it you will. Seeing as the road you live on is a private road, why should the council be liable to clear it? In fact, if all the whingers on here want every side road gritting, then you will need to quadruple the number of gritters and increase tenfold the amount of grit in store; not to mention footing the bill in your council tax...
onlyonesimongarner
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11:40am Tue 22 Dec 09
Mikeee47 wrote:Sorry to be the Doom Bringer, but it is going to an awful lot worse this time next year.
slackerbtch wrote:Years ago on the old rate system we had more services for less money, explain to me please, how with all the extra money form the extortionate council tax, why we have all these cuts,
No, you're paying Council Tax for all the other services that are required, some of which you will not use, and some of it you will. Seeing as the road you live on is a private road, why should the council be liable to clear it? In fact, if all the whingers on here want every side road gritting, then you will need to quadruple the number of gritters and increase tenfold the amount of grit in store; not to mention footing the bill in your council tax...
cut back on parks & recreation, bins only emptied once in 2 weeks, no gritters no salt, no Police!!! cut bacts to fire service do I need to go on????
ewoodman
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CapitaBackHander
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RAyzer
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LowerDarwenResident
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Mikeee47
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5:59pm Tue 22 Dec 09
ewoodman wrote:I challenge you to drive up our hill I'll bet my house on it you wont make it a 1/3 the way up, nothing to do with bad driving when the snow has compacted to a sheet of ice no one can drive up it, stop making silly comments
It always amazes me that when a little bit of snow falls people cannot cope, and complain about the lack of grit.... Has anyone been to Scandinavia, Canada etc?? They do not grit and they do not have trouble..... Its only the ones who do not understand how to drive in these conditions that complain! FFS its only snow! PS Salt is no use below about -2 degrees anyway as it will STILL freeze. The sea will freeze at -3!!
Mikeee47
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6:13pm Tue 22 Dec 09
NoPolitics wrote:Stop employing sub contractors etc . when everything was done in house, ie with total council empoyees the bin men were paid overtime plus the hgv mechanics empoyed by the council to drive the gritters, now everything has been sold off, we been sold down the swanny just like the country , & why, because we let it get that way.. Vote the right way in the next election, ask the questions what your local MP is going to promise to do, ask them to put it in writing , Its up to us to make this country great again,
Here' a chance for you, how many gritters do you want, how often do you want the salt bins filling,(supposing a wagon can get to them). which roads do you want as a priority (Hospitals etc), how many people should be employed on winter maintenance. each additional Gritter + Driver costs £100,000 per year. Filling Salt bins constantly Wagon + man, £1,000 per week, Bring in hired Gritters and men @ £2,500 per week (but you won't get them because everyone else wants them too). 400 Salt bins in BwD multiply that by 12 = 4800, Number of wagons and men to fill them 48 = £48,000 to fill salt bins so the blue rinse brigade who have steep drives can get theit BMW's out. Add the cost of salt and supervision then you will have a difficult decision to make, do we do it or get to it with the stretched resources available to us now. It is no good all these Councillors getting on the band wagon and telling everyone what they should be doing, how much should be added to the Council Tax so that a reasonable service at a reasonable cost can be provided. Remember these gritters only get used for a few weeks per year.
CapitaBackHander
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6:37pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Mikeee47 wrote:They have snow chains as the roads are covered. You can hardly put snow chains on when the roads are hit and miss treated.... Snow tyres but means extra set of wheels and tyres for maybe 1 week max of snow.... Daft comment...
ewoodman wrote: It always amazes me that when a little bit of snow falls people cannot cope, and complain about the lack of grit.... Has anyone been to Scandinavia, Canada etc?? They do not grit and they do not have trouble..... Its only the ones who do not understand how to drive in these conditions that complain! FFS its only snow! PS Salt is no use below about -2 degrees anyway as it will STILL freeze. The sea will freeze at -3!!I challenge you to drive up our hill I'll bet my house on it you wont make it a 1/3 the way up, nothing to do with bad driving when the snow has compacted to a sheet of ice no one can drive up it, stop making silly comments
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burner says...
10:22am Tue 22 Dec 09
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I live on a main road and they could easily have emptied all the bins there. I KNOW they couldn't get up side roads. But . . . . ???????