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1 in 5 in people in Blackburn with Darwen on benefits for at least 13 years

CLAIMS: Around 20,000 people are claiming jobless or invalidity benefits CLAIMS: Around 20,000 people are claiming jobless or invalidity benefits

ONE in five people in Blackburn with Darwen have been living off benefits for at least 13 years, new figures have revealed.

Some 17,986 of the 94,322 people of working age in the borough have survived on either jobseeker’s allowance or disability benefits for more than a decade.

The 19 per cent rate is the 13th highest in the country, only coming behind inner city areas areas such as Tower Hamlets, Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool.

Council leader Mike Lee described the situation as a ‘tremendous concern’ while Blackburn MP Jack Straw said ‘there is no doubt there is a problem here’.

The figures, uncovered by the Conservative Party, show that in Blackburn with Darwen: * 479 people aged over 16 in the borough have never worked and live on benefits.

* 363 people have lived on jobseekers allowance since 1996.

* 8,841 people have never worked due to health problems * 8,303 people have not worked due to health issues since 1996 at the latest.

Currently there are 4,232 people out of work in Blackburn with Darwen, meaning the very long-term jobless total makes up around 20 per cent of the total.

Leaders fear that while there are many genuine claimants, a lot of people are increasingly ‘playing the system’.

Mike Damms, the chief executive of the East Lancashire Chamber of Commerce, said the figures showed that the benefits system needed to be looked at.

He said: “We look at levels of jobs and employment which have compared well with other parts of the country.

“I was not aware of such high levels of long term worklessness, although we have been conscious of a large proportion of people out of work and on incapacity benefit.

“East Lancashire has many problems with healthy living and that must impact on the number of people not in work.”

Coun Lee, the Conservative leader of Blackburn with Darwen, said a situation where so many people were out of work for the long term ‘could not be allowed to continue’.

He said: “The figures are a tremendous concern. The economic benefit to the area if even a small proportion of these people were back in work would be huge.

“There have been many problems with the loss of manufacturing jobs in the area and being out of work can be difficult for people to break out of.

“A major frustration for us is the lack of commitment from central government to sort out the benefits system.”

Coun Lee pointed to the £4.5million funding recently secured by East Lancashire councils to create 700 public sector jobs as proof that work was being done locally to improve the situation.

The Conservative figures have prompted a row between Tory and Labour ministers.

While the stats show the numbers who have not worked since 1996, the individuals concerned could have last held down a job at any time before this.

Jack Straw, MP for Blackburn, said the town did have a problem but that it had been mostly caused by the Conservatives.

He said: “There is no doubt there is a problem here, but the Conservatives are responsible for a large part of the problem.

“The Government are in the process of tightening up rules of invalidity claimants, when the previous Conservative Government put many people into this category when they shouldn’t have been there.

“I have visited the Job Centre Plus in Blackburn twice recently and the work they do to encourage people back into work is fantastic, they are transforming the area.”

Theresa May, the Tory shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, said: “The reality is that under Labour there has been a steady growth in welfare ghettos - unemployment did not disappear during the ‘boom years’.

“It is important to remember that not everyone can work, those with severe disabilities or those who do an invaluable job as full time carers or parents of young children.

"But at the same time we should not shy away from demanding more of those who can work, and often desperately want to.”

The stats were not revealed for other East Lancashire boroughs.

Instead a ‘Lancashire’ figure was given for the county council area showing 105,000 had been out of work since at least 1996.

Comments(24)

happycyclist says...
9:18am Thu 27 Aug 09

Jack Straw said: “I have visited the Job Centre Plus in Blackburn twice recently and the work they do to encourage people back into work is fantastic, they are transforming the area.”
Unbelievable. What planet is Straw on? Jobcentres are USELESS.

Jimmy Paterson says...
10:01am Thu 27 Aug 09

Never been out of work in my life -- theres always something out there - get off your arses and go look.
I am sick of paying for these people to sit at home, eating takeaways watching Jeremy Kyle before jumping into the taxi to the boozer...

madari says...
10:14am Thu 27 Aug 09

Jimmy Paterson wrote:
Never been out of work in my life -- theres always something out there - get off your arses and go look. I am sick of paying for these people to sit at home, eating takeaways watching Jeremy Kyle before jumping into the taxi to the boozer...
Madari the snake charmer says:

Count your blessings that you have never been out of work, let me assure you if you were to lose your job now you wouldnt be coming on here mouthing off.

It is a job to get a job these days , especially if you are over 40yrs of age.

I just hope i dont lose my job.


justicejoan says...
11:49am Thu 27 Aug 09

The vast majority of claimants for disability benefits and JSA are born in this country.

The huge council estates have generation after generation who are reliant on the benefits system and have never worked in their lives.

The research has to be done to gain these facts which i am sure Andy H and others are capable of.

Poverty is directly linked to unemployment and hence areas where it is concentrated become places where the good people of the middle classes do no not wish to be associated with and to frequent.

We should all refrain from the racist agenda that some contributors on this forum regularly display in their postings.

They should be made aware of the 2007 Racial hatred and discrimination act and the cosequences of their behaviour.

Mike Costa says...
12:13pm Thu 27 Aug 09

madari wrote:
Jimmy Paterson wrote: Never been out of work in my life -- theres always something out there - get off your arses and go look. I am sick of paying for these people to sit at home, eating takeaways watching Jeremy Kyle before jumping into the taxi to the boozer...
Madari the snake charmer says: Count your blessings that you have never been out of work, let me assure you if you were to lose your job now you wouldnt be coming on here mouthing off. It is a job to get a job these days , especially if you are over 40yrs of age. I just hope i dont lose my job.
Mike Costa says:

Shouldnt have to worry about losing your job madari.
There'll always be a need for snake charmers

midas says...
12:45pm Thu 27 Aug 09

I know, blame it on the Tories!

Mike says...
1:08pm Thu 27 Aug 09

The vast majority of claimants are NOT from the indigenous community, if we take a percentage from all sections of the community and there are a fair number of scroungers amongst all of them.

justicejoan says...
1:39pm Thu 27 Aug 09

Mike, your statement is incorrect.

The vast majority( over 75%) of claimants ARE from the indigenous community, now that you have made this a race issue in this debate.

Generation after generation of

-single mothers
-teenage mothers
-alcohol addiction
-drug addiction
-anti social behaviour
-petty criminals
-benefits culture
-unemployment
-feral children

the list goes on and on, with the vast majority being people born in this country and of the indigenous community.

this unfortunately is the preserve of the great council estates dotted around the big cities and towns up and down the country.

The people with their hidden agendas to stir racial hatred need to check up the facts with members of the learned professions before making comments out of step with their presumed knowledge.

maj3091 says...
2:10pm Thu 27 Aug 09

Regardless of race, creed or religion, you have to ask the question, who is to blame?

Do you blame the lazy baskets for sitting at home all day and claiming the benefits, or do you blame the system for allowing them to do it?

What ever happened to the article I read on here a few months ago about how benefits would be stopped if people weren't actively seeking work and taking opportunities....sho
uldn't it be the case that if a person is out of a job, then they shouldn't have the right to turn-down a job offer if one comes up?

Exactly what "incentive" is there for these people to get off their backsides and get a job?

akon says...
4:28pm Thu 27 Aug 09

justicejoan

Are you married to Trevor Philips or George Galloway ?

Your anti-indigenous lunatic rantings make YOU look like YOU have a hidden agenda !
Every time anyone mention's asians/muslims etc why do they have to have a hidden agenda you stupid woman.

Ref the RACE act ,can i inform you that it works BOTH WAYS you patronising sloth.

Darwenbert says...
6:04pm Thu 27 Aug 09

i totally agree if you want work and are able bodied its always there if you look, i just think most of that 1 in 5 cant be bothered. there is plenty of work but most think collecting trolleys at asda or cleaning a petrol station forecourt etc is beneath them...

Darwenbert says...
6:12pm Thu 27 Aug 09

There is a severe culture of wont get out of bed for less than £7.50 an hour i drive an HGV and have been getting out of bed for the last seven years for less than £7.50 an hour. It may not be a lot of money but its better than being on the dole.

TONY WALES says...
7:05pm Thu 27 Aug 09

Relax everybody. Don't get so stressed out!
These unemployments stats come out every so many months.
Everybody starts shouting abuse at other people saying they are lazy etc.
In the end the government does absolutely nothing. Nobody gets their benefits stopped, because if you dont want a job, you dont impress at the interview.
Can anybody tell me if the government have ever stopped their benefits, and left them with nothing to live on?
MP's are always promising to reform the benefit system, but don't wish to become unpopular, and risk losing votes.
Why should they upset anybody, they have a very good salary and of course very good perks (e.g. long holidays and expenses)
So all that will happen is that taxes, direct and indirect, will rise every year to pay the bill for an ever increasing social benefit bill. The workers will have to pay imore income tax, and the unemployed will collect the money.
Your only answer is go go and live in the USA, or Canada or Australia, where social benefits are not so freely handed out.
But if you dont have good qualifications, forget it.
In the next 50 years with the increase in popualation the social benefits will run out of money, and the working popualation will have to work to 75 or 80 to collect their pension.
I will not be alive in 50 years so why should I worry.

TONY WALES says...
7:05pm Thu 27 Aug 09

Relax everybody. Don't get so stressed out!
These unemployments stats come out every so many months.
Everybody starts shouting abuse at other people saying they are lazy etc.
In the end the government does absolutely nothing. Nobody gets their benefits stopped, because if you dont want a job, you dont impress at the interview.
Can anybody tell me if the government have ever stopped their benefits, and left them with nothing to live on?
MP's are always promising to reform the benefit system, but don't wish to become unpopular, and risk losing votes.
Why should they upset anybody, they have a very good salary and of course very good perks (e.g. long holidays and expenses)
So all that will happen is that taxes, direct and indirect, will rise every year to pay the bill for an ever increasing social benefit bill. The workers will have to pay imore income tax, and the unemployed will collect the money.
Your only answer is go go and live in the USA, or Canada or Australia, where social benefits are not so freely handed out.
But if you dont have good qualifications, forget it.
In the next 50 years with the increase in popualation the social benefits will run out of money, and the working popualation will have to work to 75 or 80 to collect their pension.
I will not be alive in 50 years so why should I worry.

andy1 says...
7:44pm Thu 27 Aug 09

akon wrote:
justicejoan

Are you married to Trevor Philips or George Galloway ?

Your anti-indigenous lunatic rantings make YOU look like YOU have a hidden agenda !
Every time anyone mention's asians/muslims etc why do they have to have a hidden agenda you stupid woman.

Ref the RACE act ,can i inform you that it works BOTH WAYS you patronising sloth.
A bit rich coming from one of old Micks 3rd Reich isnt it? FACISTS are FACISTS Like akon know all but in reality Know nothing. I cant be bothered tonight akon to let you have some information on your useless Councillors etc in the British Nazi Party.

NICEONESUNSHINE says...
8:17pm Thu 27 Aug 09

andy1 wrote:
akon wrote: justicejoan Are you married to Trevor Philips or George Galloway ? Your anti-indigenous lunatic rantings make YOU look like YOU have a hidden agenda ! Every time anyone mention's asians/muslims etc why do they have to have a hidden agenda you stupid woman. Ref the RACE act ,can i inform you that it works BOTH WAYS you patronising sloth.
A bit rich coming from one of old Micks 3rd Reich isnt it? FACISTS are FACISTS Like akon know all but in reality Know nothing. I cant be bothered tonight akon to let you have some information on your useless Councillors etc in the British Nazi Party.
You took the words right out of my post!


Hammurabi says...
8:48pm Thu 27 Aug 09

justicejoan, according to data from the ONS labour force survey (updated Mar 2009), over 50% Bangladeshis and 46% pakistanis between 25 and retirement age are not working, compared with 20% for white British. Perhaps you should research for yourself, being so learned.

Major Tom says...
1:25am Fri 28 Aug 09

its hard getting to work these days. fuel tax + buses r expensive. why should people be worse off when the state provides better choice. :) :)

akon says...
7:43am Fri 28 Aug 09

andy1
The devil worshipper re-appears.
Useless councillor's ?
What about this USELESS government ,remember the one ,LABOUR !!
The one you served poorly as a councillor !
Then you spat your dummy out .....

Harleygirl says...
9:24am Fri 28 Aug 09

I suspect the reason someone has been out of work for 13yrs is due to the amount of money that they receive each month. They get paid more staying at home so the system is seriously flawed.

The Benefits System would work much better by only providing financial assistance for a minimum period.

If you are still unemployed after the assistance period, people should be forced to do voluntary work in the communities that support them.

Nad says...
9:43am Fri 28 Aug 09

Well said Harleygirl. About 6 months should be enough.

ExForces says...
1:57pm Fri 28 Aug 09

GET OFF YOUR **** YOU LAZY SPONGING SORRY EXCUSE FOR HUMAN BEINGS

NoPolitics says...
2:48pm Sat 29 Aug 09

Lets focus on the real issues here, why is our local authority not planning for the short, medium and long term structure that would provide outside and inward investment that would bring jobs and prosperity to the local community. They appear to be able to find funds to set up yet another tier of local bureaucracy in the form of Darwen Council yet cannot offer any hope to the people who are genuinely looking for meaningful employment. they are the ones that should be pump priming the local economy not frittering away Council Taxes. When are people going to learn, without planning this administration will take us all into the abyss of depravation but at least Darwen has a Council, rejoice. Shame on them for playing amateur politics with peoples lives.

amazed says...
9:10pm Sat 29 Aug 09

The comments above are surprising really. Why do the Council not offer any hope for people? Since the M65 was extended to the M6, Darwen area and the M65 "corridor" has expanded with national companies coming into the area. Walker Park, Goosehouse, Shadsworth - goodness the area is buzzing with firms. The "professional unemployed" just do not want to seek jobs. As stated somewhere above, they may go for an interview and make such a poor presentation that the employer is forced to reject them or be saddled with a non-performer. The Job Centre should insist on the applicant going for jobs and if they fail to get fixed up after three interviews through lack of effort than they should be forced to work on a voluntary basis. That would concentrate their minds I reckon. I started work at 14 years of age and was never out of a job, working for the same company for 40 years, then moved on to get a better job and retired happily.......it CAN be done!!

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