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BNP leader homes in on new headquarters in East Lancashire
8:40am Tuesday 9th June 2009 in
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- By Chris Hopper » Reporter
BNP leader Nick Griffin has confirmed he is looking for an East Lancashire base after his dramatic election to the European parliament.
Mr Griffin became the North West’s eighth Euro MP after being elected to serve alongside three Conservatives, two Labour members, a Liberal Democrat and a UKIP MEP.
Opponents immediately dubbed his success a “very dark day in British politics”.
But a defiant Mr Griffin hailed his election win and confirmed he is looking at setting up camp in East Lancashire as a party base for when he returns from trips to Brussels.
Last month the Lancashire Telegraph exclusively revealed the party was looking for a site ‘between Colne and Preston’.
The BNP declined to comment on the exact location of any potential bases, but it is believed the party has looked at sites in Burnley.
MEPs are given a yearly office allowance of 47,000 Euros and an annual staff allowance of 185,000 Euros.
This is a total of around £180,000 a year to set up a base.
They also earn the same annual salary as national MPs, which is just over £60,000 per year.
Mr Griffin said: “We will be working with the people of East Lancashire.
“We need to be sensible about it. We have only one won seat in the North West.
“But we are already in East Lancashire and we will spend more time there.”
Burnley Council leader Coun Gordon Birtwistle said he was not aware of any sites the BNP were looking at. But he said: “It’s 65 years since D-Day and 50 million people dying to stop the original facists, and now we’ve gone and elected them.”
Coun Mike Lee, Blackburn with Darwen Council leader, said he had heard nothing about the party opening a Blackburn office, but understood they may be looking at places in Burnley.
Comments(118)
Andy H
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10:06am Tue 9 Jun 09
Our Euro MP being on the doorstep can only help the town as when people see that all the skilled jobs have left the area and all our educated kids have followed perhaps people will sit up and take us seriously .We have new schools, new sport and health facilities what about bringing some real work to the area .We cannot all work in Asda or Homebase we need to be part of a world leading project in health, science or Engineering, something that our kids can aspire to. No real jobs equals a brain drain followed by an invasion of people unable to contribute in bettering the area as they are the only people who will want to live around here only because it is better than the deprived areas of the world they are currently in.
Andy H
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10:08am Tue 9 Jun 09
Our Euro MP being on the doorstep can only help the town as when people see that all the skilled jobs have left the area and all our educated kids have followed perhaps people will sit up and take us seriously .We have new schools, new sport and health facilities what about bringing some real work to the area .We cannot all work in Asda or Homebase we need to be part of a world leading project in health, science or Engineering, something that our kids can aspire to. No real jobs equals a brain drain followed by an invasion of people unable to contribute in bettering the area as they are the only people who will want to live around here only because it is better than the deprived areas of the world they are currently in.
Akki
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10:13am Tue 9 Jun 09
duke bar
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10:15am Tue 9 Jun 09
IGE .DORMA,etc closing down in the 80s and 90s.
1000s of jobs gone in one of the poorest lowest paid areas of England.
Lets hope the BNP shakes up the other parties and some good times come back to Burnley.
So glad the Clarets are bringing pride back to our town.
midas
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10:31am Tue 9 Jun 09
working chap
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10:32am Tue 9 Jun 09
milty
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10:34am Tue 9 Jun 09
midas
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11:24am Tue 9 Jun 09
milty wrote:"The more attention on Burnley the better"...what exactly do you mean by that?
It will be good for Burnley, at least the BNP will stay in touch with the people, not like your liblabcon who only show up once a year, when they want your vote, the more attention on Burnley the better, Burnley will die as a town in the next 20 years if things arnt turned around, i notice shahid malik as been cleared and is now the communities minister, so this is labour changing ha its going to be the same old show, nothing will change, theyll never change, only the BNP can change things they really shake the establishment up and thats what we need.
Political Watch
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12:45pm Tue 9 Jun 09
(Copied from Guido Fawkes)
The Burnley leader would seem totally unaware that the British who lost their lives in WWII did so to save our country from invasion by a foreign power. There are certain elements that have infiltrated our country who have pledged to seeing an alien flag flying over 10 Downing Street – no it is not the hammer and sickle, that’s there already – the flag is green and yellow.
History tells us that where ever there is a mix of nations or religions there is conflict, that is why counties have boundaries. Look to Ireland, Israel or Kosovo and why was India partitioned.
True Darwener
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12:52pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student
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1:14pm Tue 9 Jun 09
It won't provide any significant job rise and will only increase racial tension in a diverse town.
duke bar
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2:13pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Last time we had racial tension only 1 side got punnished.
Mister Whiteman.
This is how the bnp are doing well .Had equal justice been dished out .The bnp would be like the Save the whale party with about 300 interested in them.
Tashan90
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2:25pm Tue 9 Jun 09
If i was to move to Spain, France, Italy and so on i wouldnt expect to be put to the top of the list,i would expect to find myself at the bottom as it is not my country!!as the saying is 'when in rome do as the romans do'!!!
Why dont you people go and join those ugly morons protesting against the BNP in Manc!!But i bet them people didnt protest when people lost thier families and loved ones in the London bombings or the twin towers!!I realy cant work some people out!!
burnley1
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2:31pm Tue 9 Jun 09
here are a few quotes that they provided.
MEMBERSHIP (Lifted from their earlier website, they have never retracted this however)
Membership of the party shall be open only to those who are 16 years of age or over and whose ethnic origin is listed within Sub-section 2 (ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigeno
us European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.)
Hellboy
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2:41pm Tue 9 Jun 09
The BNP will get rid of all the non-white doctors and nurses at Burnley General and put the highly-intelligent Burnley youth in their stead.
Surely,there can't be a problem with that,as SOMEONE would have to fill the vacancy left open due to repatriation!
And just imagine all those businessmen falling all over each other to have their name related to probably the most neo-nazi town in the entire country;now that's an opportunity that no Right-minded businessman would DARE to miss! HAHAHAHA!!!
Hope you Burnley folk enjoy your most excellent political reputation...
Burnley student
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2:43pm Tue 9 Jun 09
duke bar wrote:By diverse i meant racial diversity, Burnley is definitely this! And i think if you look at the police report of the tensions then you would notice that not only 'one side' got punished, sometimes the media simply isn't good enough to get the truth
Student.Diverse town.Sorry your wrong .
Last time we had racial tension only 1 side got punnished.
Mister Whiteman.
This is how the bnp are doing well .Had equal justice been dished out .The bnp would be like the Save the whale party with about 300 interested in them.
burnley1
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2:44pm Tue 9 Jun 09
"I'm no apologist for WHITE WORKING CLASS SCUM." - BNP councillor Simon
Smith"Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal... is like suggesting force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence." - Nick Eriksen
midas
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2:44pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Tashan90 wrote:what point are you making? Are you complaining about immigration or Islamic terrorism? What about immigrants from East Europe that aren't muslim, are they allowed in? Do you differentiate between economic migrants and asylum seekers? Stop ranting and put forward a coherent arguement, something that seems to be lacking from most of the BNP suppporters, evidenced by their inability to answer even the most basic of questions.
OMGGG!!!!you people are such DO-GOODERS!!!The BNP have won a seat fair and square,get over it!!UKIP have also done really well which is basically fairly similar to the BNP views!!isnt that saying people are sick of the amount of immigration in this country!!its nothing to do with flipin racism!!!I bet the majority who voted them arent even bothered about diferent skin colours in Britain but what they are bothered about is unhealthy people coming over here so they can have their free housing,all their benefits etc and then stirrin up hatred,not mixing in, and wantin the law and society to change for their benefit!! If i was to move to Spain, France, Italy and so on i wouldnt expect to be put to the top of the list,i would expect to find myself at the bottom as it is not my country!!as the saying is 'when in rome do as the romans do'!!! Why dont you people go and join those ugly morons protesting against the BNP in Manc!!But i bet them people didnt protest when people lost thier families and loved ones in the London bombings or the twin towers!!I realy cant work some people out!!
burnley1
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2:52pm Tue 9 Jun 09
"We don't think the most overcrowded country in Europe, can realistically say, 'Look, you can all come and all your relatives'. When the Gurkhas signed up - frankly as mercenaries - they expected a pension which would allow them to live well in their own country." - Nick Griffin, 12 May 2009
burnley1
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2:54pm Tue 9 Jun 09
"Honestly now, would you prefer your kid growing up in Oldham and Burnley or 1930's Germany? It would be better for your child to grow up there." - Mark Collett
"Meanwhile, the indigenous side in the low-to-medium level civil war brewing in this country is getting its training. . .Its all going to get very messy." - Nick Griffin's blog on the BNP website
duke bar
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2:57pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:Burnley Student.
duke bar wrote: Student.Diverse town.Sorry your wrong . Last time we had racial tension only 1 side got punnished. Mister Whiteman. This is how the bnp are doing well .Had equal justice been dished out .The bnp would be like the Save the whale party with about 300 interested in them.By diverse i meant racial diversity, Burnley is definitely this! And i think if you look at the police report of the tensions then you would notice that not only 'one side' got punished, sometimes the media simply isn't good enough to get the truth
I had no need to look at the Police report.
I just looked down my street and could see the Duke of York pub on fire.Police stood around watching and 100s of Asians roaming round colne road setting cars and shops onfire.THIS WAS LIVE NOT SOME NEWSPAPER REPORT.THIS WAS HAPPENING INFRONT OF MY EYES.
Belive me it was real.
What was not real after the riots was the fact that none of these Asian rioters never went to court or jail.Over 60 white men went to jail for rioting up under the culvert and Burnley wood.
THIS IS WHY FOLK IN BURNLEY VOTE FOR THE BNP .THESE ARE THE FACTS.
JUSTICE WAS NOT EQUALLY DONE .
burnley1
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2:58pm Tue 9 Jun 09
i still feel sick in my stomache that they think rape is a good thing.
burnley1
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3:22pm Tue 9 Jun 09
duke bar wrote:Your full of Cr4p. It was a well proven and documented fact that the asians were given harsher and longer jail terms than all the whites average jail terms.
Burnley student wrote:Burnley Student.
duke bar wrote: Student.Diverse town.Sorry your wrong . Last time we had racial tension only 1 side got punnished. Mister Whiteman. This is how the bnp are doing well .Had equal justice been dished out .The bnp would be like the Save the whale party with about 300 interested in them.By diverse i meant racial diversity, Burnley is definitely this! And i think if you look at the police report of the tensions then you would notice that not only 'one side' got punished, sometimes the media simply isn't good enough to get the truth
I had no need to look at the Police report.
I just looked down my street and could see the Duke of York pub on fire.Police stood around watching and 100s of Asians roaming round colne road setting cars and shops onfire.THIS WAS LIVE NOT SOME NEWSPAPER REPORT.THIS WAS HAPPENING INFRONT OF MY EYES.
Belive me it was real.
What was not real after the riots was the fact that none of these Asian rioters never went to court or jail.Over 60 white men went to jail for rioting up under the culvert and Burnley wood.
THIS IS WHY FOLK IN BURNLEY VOTE FOR THE BNP .THESE ARE THE FACTS.
JUSTICE WAS NOT EQUALLY DONE .
Whats more asians stayed in their area defending there families. Yeah they got stupid and there is no excuse for behaving the same as the white supremist who started the whole thing.
pointing and accusing doesnt help and voting for bnp who worship hitler and again i quote "Mein Kampf is my Bible." WWII should have been the end of hitlers legacy but nick griffin and john tyndal are trying to re-ignite those horrors and atrocities. I hope they end up like hitler before the get people hurt
duke bar
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3:41pm Tue 9 Jun 09
I am right.Your wrong.Badly wrong.Show me documents where Asians were sent to prison on mass SERVING LONG SENTACES FOR THE DUKE BAR RIOTS.?
They were defending no one only rioting.I am from DUKE BAR and these are the facts.You come on here spouting your crap.I am not a bnp fan or a labour fan.
The Asian rioters were not stupid they were evil. They set the duke of york on fire and they were not to know that any people were living there .The landlady had left thank god.
Its pure luck that people were not killed that Sunday night.
Hope we never live to see those scences again.
You have no idea what went on that night .No idea at all.
hasslem hasslem
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3:41pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Political Watch wrote:USA, Brazil, Canada
Nick Griffin will be thanking Gordon Brown. He could not have done it without him. Brown has achieved one policy goal, he got two British jobs for two British worker, the British National Party candidates who are going to Brussels. Labour MPs should reflect on that, do they fear losing their jobs in an election more than they loathe the BNP. As long as they keep a Scot who can’t connect with English working class voters as leader, the stronger the BNP becomes. (Copied from Guido Fawkes) The Burnley leader would seem totally unaware that the British who lost their lives in WWII did so to save our country from invasion by a foreign power. There are certain elements that have infiltrated our country who have pledged to seeing an alien flag flying over 10 Downing Street – no it is not the hammer and sickle, that’s there already – the flag is green and yellow. History tells us that where ever there is a mix of nations or religions there is conflict, that is why counties have boundaries. Look to Ireland, Israel or Kosovo and why was India partitioned.
Burnley student
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3:47pm Tue 9 Jun 09
burnley1 wrote:Duke bar, all i can say is if your gonna argue research your facts first, none of the documented footage show 'hundreds of Asians' on the street, i just hope you studied the holocaust and know what your voting for.
duke bar wrote:Your full of Cr4p. It was a well proven and documented fact that the asians were given harsher and longer jail terms than all the whites average jail terms.
Burnley student wrote:Burnley Student.
duke bar wrote: Student.Diverse town.Sorry your wrong . Last time we had racial tension only 1 side got punnished. Mister Whiteman. This is how the bnp are doing well .Had equal justice been dished out .The bnp would be like the Save the whale party with about 300 interested in them.By diverse i meant racial diversity, Burnley is definitely this! And i think if you look at the police report of the tensions then you would notice that not only 'one side' got punished, sometimes the media simply isn't good enough to get the truth
I had no need to look at the Police report.
I just looked down my street and could see the Duke of York pub on fire.Police stood around watching and 100s of Asians roaming round colne road setting cars and shops onfire.THIS WAS LIVE NOT SOME NEWSPAPER REPORT.THIS WAS HAPPENING INFRONT OF MY EYES.
Belive me it was real.
What was not real after the riots was the fact that none of these Asian rioters never went to court or jail.Over 60 white men went to jail for rioting up under the culvert and Burnley wood.
THIS IS WHY FOLK IN BURNLEY VOTE FOR THE BNP .THESE ARE THE FACTS.
JUSTICE WAS NOT EQUALLY DONE .
Whats more asians stayed in their area defending there families. Yeah they got stupid and there is no excuse for behaving the same as the white supremist who started the whole thing.
pointing and accusing doesnt help and voting for bnp who worship hitler and again i quote "Mein Kampf is my Bible." WWII should have been the end of hitlers legacy but nick griffin and john tyndal are trying to re-ignite those horrors and atrocities. I hope they end up like hitler before the get people hurt
Stop living in the past, only idiots want 'a civil war' in this country, on the other hand i think we do need to tighten up immigration in this country, but not like the British Nazis Party want it.
Mark66
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3:58pm Tue 9 Jun 09
duke bar
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4:00pm Tue 9 Jun 09
What Planet are you on??Are you from Burnley .There was 2 different riots about a mile away from each other.
Everyman and his dog know what went on that Sunday night up Duke Bar.You were most likely about 12 years old then.
The video of the riots show white males rioting under the culvert.This was all taken with Police helicopters and Police videos.These people were sent to jail and brought befor the courts.
WHY HAVE WE NOT TO THIS DAY EVER SEEN ANY VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THE DUKE BAR RIOTS.
THis is what people of BURNLEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
No one has ever answered this question.The POLICE THE mp,s no one .I wonder why.....
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT IF YOUR GOING TO DEBATE THE DUKE BAR RIOTS PLEASE.
Burnley student
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4:19pm Tue 9 Jun 09
duke bar wrote:Hi, apologies from me, yes there were hundreds of asains on the streets, i was wrong there.
Student.
What Planet are you on??Are you from Burnley .There was 2 different riots about a mile away from each other.
Everyman and his dog know what went on that Sunday night up Duke Bar.You were most likely about 12 years old then.
The video of the riots show white males rioting under the culvert.This was all taken with Police helicopters and Police videos.These people were sent to jail and brought befor the courts.
WHY HAVE WE NOT TO THIS DAY EVER SEEN ANY VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THE DUKE BAR RIOTS.
THis is what people of BURNLEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
No one has ever answered this question.The POLICE THE mp,s no one .I wonder why.....
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT IF YOUR GOING TO DEBATE THE DUKE BAR RIOTS PLEASE.
Also yes i'm Burnley born and bred.
Perhaps the fact that the police helicopter felt it needed to cover the 'whites' suggests they were aggravating the situation more?
I think this is quite a pointless argument, we're both obviously set in our own ways which is fine and democratic, i just really hope you know what your voting for, if so, poor you!
By the way, how many of the crowd are asain? http://news.sky.com/
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Eggs
interesting link for you there, is this how you want Europe to see the North West?
The Nazi's won due to a decline in voters and have actually lost voters since the last election, it's a warning for the future that a wasted vote leads to this.
duke bar
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4:22pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:Student i have not voted for the BNP ever.
burnley1 wrote:Duke bar, all i can say is if your gonna argue research your facts first, none of the documented footage show 'hundreds of Asians' on the street, i just hope you studied the holocaust and know what your voting for. Stop living in the past, only idiots want 'a civil war' in this country, on the other hand i think we do need to tighten up immigration in this country, but not like the British Nazis Party want it.duke bar wrote:Your full of Cr4p. It was a well proven and documented fact that the asians were given harsher and longer jail terms than all the whites average jail terms. Whats more asians stayed in their area defending there families. Yeah they got stupid and there is no excuse for behaving the same as the white supremist who started the whole thing. pointing and accusing doesnt help and voting for bnp who worship hitler and again i quote "Mein Kampf is my Bible." WWII should have been the end of hitlers legacy but nick griffin and john tyndal are trying to re-ignite those horrors and atrocities. I hope they end up like hitler before the get people hurtBurnley student wrote:Burnley Student. I had no need to look at the Police report. I just looked down my street and could see the Duke of York pub on fire.Police stood around watching and 100s of Asians roaming round colne road setting cars and shops onfire.THIS WAS LIVE NOT SOME NEWSPAPER REPORT.THIS WAS HAPPENING INFRONT OF MY EYES. Belive me it was real. What was not real after the riots was the fact that none of these Asian rioters never went to court or jail.Over 60 white men went to jail for rioting up under the culvert and Burnley wood. THIS IS WHY FOLK IN BURNLEY VOTE FOR THE BNP .THESE ARE THE FACTS. JUSTICE WAS NOT EQUALLY DONE .duke bar wrote: Student.Diverse town.Sorry your wrong . Last time we had racial tension only 1 side got punnished. Mister Whiteman. This is how the bnp are doing well .Had equal justice been dished out .The bnp would be like the Save the whale party with about 300 interested in them.By diverse i meant racial diversity, Burnley is definitely this! And i think if you look at the police report of the tensions then you would notice that not only 'one side' got punished, sometimes the media simply isn't good enough to get the truth
I can understand why a lot of Burnley folk do.Shame you can also not understand this.They feel let down.
Tashan90
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4:23pm Tue 9 Jun 09
duke bar
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4:30pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:Glad you accept you got it wrong about Asians rioting.
duke bar wrote: Student. What Planet are you on??Are you from Burnley .There was 2 different riots about a mile away from each other. Everyman and his dog know what went on that Sunday night up Duke Bar.You were most likely about 12 years old then. The video of the riots show white males rioting under the culvert.This was all taken with Police helicopters and Police videos.These people were sent to jail and brought befor the courts. WHY HAVE WE NOT TO THIS DAY EVER SEEN ANY VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THE DUKE BAR RIOTS. THis is what people of BURNLEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS. No one has ever answered this question.The POLICE THE mp,s no one .I wonder why..... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT IF YOUR GOING TO DEBATE THE DUKE BAR RIOTS PLEASE.Hi, apologies from me, yes there were hundreds of asains on the streets, i was wrong there. Also yes i'm Burnley born and bred. Perhaps the fact that the police helicopter felt it needed to cover the 'whites' suggests they were aggravating the situation more? I think this is quite a pointless argument, we're both obviously set in our own ways which is fine and democratic, i just really hope you know what your voting for, if so, poor you! By the way, how many of the crowd are asain? http://news.sky.com/ skynews/Home/Politic s/BNP-Leader-Nick-Gr iffins-Car-Hit-Prote ster-After-He-Was-Pe lted-With-Eggs/Artic le/200906215299562?l pos=Politics_Carouse l_Region_0&lid=A
RTIC LE_15299562_BNP_Lead er_Nick_Griffins_Car _Hit_Protester_After _He_Was_Pelted_With_ Eggs interesting link for you there, is this how you want Europe to see the North West? The Nazi's won due to a decline in voters and have actually lost voters since the last election, it's a warning for the future that a wasted vote leads to this.
I honestly think if justice had been done and these Asian rioters had gone to jail.Just like the white rioters.
The BNP would never have got any votes had this happend.
Burnley student
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4:33pm Tue 9 Jun 09
I'm just very scared to be honest, Nazi sympathisers are gaining power, the person who represents us is being attacked on the street while preaching that Churchill agrees with his policies, it's stupid!
I wish you accepted that things have changed, The youth of today don't feel this tension that you seem to be living in.
duke bar
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4:37pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Lots of unanswered questions about what went on during the Duke Bar riots.
The bnp only got attention due to being voted for in Burnley after the riots.
As i said had justice been done then no one would have bothered with the bnp in Burnley .they would have been history.
Burnley student
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4:43pm Tue 9 Jun 09
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/lanca
shire/2936531.stm
milty
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4:49pm Tue 9 Jun 09
milty
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4:56pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Andy H
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4:59pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:Burnley student, can I please ask what part of town you were brought up in, what schools you attended, where you hope to work when you have finished your studies.
Duke bar, sorry i thought you had voted i must have misunderstood :) I'm just very scared to be honest, Nazi sympathisers are gaining power, the person who represents us is being attacked on the street while preaching that Churchill agrees with his policies, it's stupid! I wish you accepted that things have changed, The youth of today don't feel this tension that you seem to be living in.
Then can I ask what part of town would you like to settle and maybe start a family, and again what school you would like to send them to base on today’s standards.
What type of career would you recommend to them and whom would you advise them to steer clear of as regards to drugs, grooming and any trouble that may arise where you fear mass retaliation may occur.
I am only asking because as a father of three and knowing what I know from facts and not scare mongering I have constant worries as to life around Burnley and the future for my kids.
I am neither racist nor a nazi follower but a concerned citizen born and bred of Burnley who is glad the BNP are hitting the headlines, as I am sure it’s the only way we will get recognised. It took the riots for the place to get recognition the last time and that is when we got the new schools and sports facilities and visits from Charlie and the MP, s
(I am aware Owen and the boys have done us proud
Tashan90
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5:09pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:Haha burnley student!!you seem like an absolute sheltered little pathetic person and i take it you will be going uni soon like myself will, well i really hope you are going to City uni in London or something similar!!because i know someone who goes there and you dont think tension exists well i can assure you it sadly still does!!also if tension doesnt exist why have BNP and UKIP done a lot better?!?hmmm open your eyes and take a step out of burnley!!people like you are the vocal minority but you want to take a look at the silent majority!!
Duke bar, sorry i thought you had voted i must have misunderstood :) I'm just very scared to be honest, Nazi sympathisers are gaining power, the person who represents us is being attacked on the street while preaching that Churchill agrees with his policies, it's stupid! I wish you accepted that things have changed, The youth of today don't feel this tension that you seem to be living in.
Jack-son
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5:24pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student
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5:32pm Tue 9 Jun 09
I go to a very multi cultural school and feel and see no tension, we can't fairly comment on our lives, i was too hasty to call you duke bar and each to thier own.
it's a great shame burnley is seen like this, i do a fair bit of national work and travel quite a bit due to this, often people know Burnley for all the wrong reasons, shame this is only going to intensify if the proposition of a BNP 'HQ' happens
Lifeinthemix
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7:07pm Tue 9 Jun 09
What are we going to do about this BNP cesspit ladies and gentlemen?
As this group of B'nai B'rith puppets gain more power, then the riots will begin.
Do we want such people representing this country?
We need to forcefully dismantle this loony bunch of remedials, because the law will not.
How about lobbying the EU to ban such norberts on the grounds we did not like Hitler then, and we still don't like him....
My message to Muslim parents :
You need to get a little more interested in your children's behaviour, so they do not feed this madness.
tiojo
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7:09pm Tue 9 Jun 09
holsten pils
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7:22pm Tue 9 Jun 09
I think the BNP got in because they mention things that the main parties dare not mention yet the British people worry about them more than expense fiddles and these are immigration / asylum / illegal immigrants and the islamification of Britain.
As for Gprdon Birtwistle saying the BNP are facist he is a dickhead , thousands of people vote for the BNP for the above reasons not due to facism , some of them old soldiers that are seeing all they fought for being given away to an enemy within and others just ordinary people that have had enough of the fore mentioned , nothing at all to do with facism, nazis etc this is just the image that other scared parties want to portray along with the media to put people off voting for the only party that will put a real stop to all the above mentioned and it is much needed as our country collapses under immigration and mosque after mosque is built and positive discrimination that stops white indigenous Brits getting jobs is primary under labour and more than likely will not be addressed by the tories.
Roll on more BNP councillors .
Lifeinthemix
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7:31pm Tue 9 Jun 09
I know Burnley, I promoted the Angels for a short while in the 90's.
Burnley is in the main a catholic town, and has managed to keep the old English way of life especialy the night life.
This is why Burnley is being targeted by the crown, first with the riots, something I managed to stop here in Acrington, and then on the back of the riots, instilling the BNP-Bunch of Nutters party....
debs231
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8:37pm Tue 9 Jun 09
skeptic
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8:43pm Tue 9 Jun 09
skeptic
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8:53pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Lifeinthemix
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8:54pm Tue 9 Jun 09
I am proud of the English people for the great society we created.
As for England corporation sole....
It destroyed the world, and in declaring war on Gernamy, destroyed our spirit.
If you want to understand England, study its victim nations histories.
I say this to all who vote BNP,
Get an education, because it is pretty obvious to my good self, well I am good some of the time....
you were the remedials sat at the back of the class, wasting the education we used to get, (of sorts).
Anyway, I feel this is your payback to the country you blame for your lack of interest at school.
Lifeinthemix
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8:58pm Tue 9 Jun 09
What the hell is a liberal left?
I am a bloke with a brain and very in tune with my spirit.
Dont try and divide my being into the propogandist elite line of duality...
I am whole..
Lifeinthemix
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9:09pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Do you know how the National Socialist Party began?
Do you think it gained power by telling the Germans they were going to destroy Germany and slaughter millions?
Did Tony the satanist Blair tell you when you all voted for him, that he was going to drag you into two nazi invasions of soveriegn countries?
911 was the point at which fascism was taught to the world, and you are accepting it.
Here learn who really funded Hitler to power :
http://www.lifeinthe
mix2.co.uk/world_war
_i_ii.html
I will give you a clue....
The Inner City of London via its puppet operation Wall Street.
Educate yourself and then see what needs to be done in this country...
ranimuk
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9:42pm Tue 9 Jun 09
bankhall
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9:42pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Lifeinthemix
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10:03pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Hello student..
I hope you are in your first year, or I want to know what they are teaching you...lol
Ranimuk.
I am afraid I jumped down the rabbit hole in 1993,
take a look :
Lifeinthemix.co.uk
angerydarwener
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10:44pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Burnley student
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10:48pm Tue 9 Jun 09
angerydarwener wrote:Why don't you send a letter to Nick Griffin and ask him to place the offices in Blackburn?
I believe that it great that the BNP has been elected, as a true English born and bred person believe that this party could be the salvation of our Lancashire towns, I am tired of feeling like a foreigner in my own country. Sick of illegals taking over and wanting everything to suit them, if you do not like our ways get out and go home. Hope that the BNP will have offices in Blackburn and Darwen and sort our towns out for true British people
Lifeinthemix
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11:12pm Tue 9 Jun 09
Are not many of the 'illegals' fleeing the onslought of BAE systems armaments?
I hear you though, especially with the greens Jonathan Porritt declaring we need to remove 30 million people from Blighty, we do need to stop immigration, but the wars too.
Interestingly I rang the Green Party and asked what porritt meant by his decleration that we need to reduce by 30 million.
Bizzare to say the least was the conversation, as I was told it was only a figure of speech based on what is being talked about at high level.
I assured the chap, Porritt sounded very serious about his brainwave.
I suggested it played into their headliner, as it relates to the release of CO2…by cattle….and the trees and nature….. and that the fact we are all social security numbers, assetts of the corporation, that very soon we the people would be classed as the biggest release of CO2, in our out breath and the energy we use.
Flummexed as he was and faultering….his supervisor took the phone and said :
” We are not the green party…we no longer wish to continue this converstaion”…an
d hung up.
This was the carlisle office.
What a fab bunch of people the Greens…tell me how I join!!! They need sorting out!
Lanc's Lad
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3:54am Wed 10 Jun 09
British National Party
While still a leader of the ITP, Griffin became involved with another far-right nationalist group, the British National Party (BNP). By 1993 he was speaking at BNP meetings, and writing pseudonymously for BNP publications. In 1995, he officially joined the party.
For a time Griffin edited Spearhead, a publication owned by then party leader John Tyndall. Between 1995 and 1997, he was editor of The Rune, an antisemitic weekly, in which he praised the wartime Waffen SS and attacked the Royal Air Force for its bombing of Nazi Germany; at a 1996 demonstration at Coventry Cathedral he accused British airmen of 'mass murder'. In 1998, he was prosecuted in connection with the magazine (see below).
In September 1999, Griffin was elected as head of the BNP. He embarked on a campaign to make the party electable, by taking it away from Tyndall's agenda. These changes included an emphasis on the need to dismantle multiculturalism, which the BNP claim has a destructive influence on both immigrant and British culture. This realignment was designed to position the BNP alongside successful European far-right groups, such as the French Front National. The campaign would also involve moves against Tyndall, who was expelled from the party for a time in 2002, along with his closest allies, Richard Edmonds and John Morse.
1998 public order conviction
In 1998, Griffin, along with Paul Ballard, was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred for publishing material that denied the Holocaust, specifically his editing of issue 12 of The Rune, published in 1996.
The complaint regarding the magazine was made by Alex Carlile QC, who was then Liberal Democrat MP for Montgomeryshire. Carlile had asked the police to obtain for him a copy of the magazine, which they did. After reading it, the MP called the police again and complained about its content, whereupon the police raided Griffin's home and charged him. He was convicted and received a nine-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, and was fined £2,300. Griffin claims that the law under which he was convicted "is an unjust law and he therefore has no obligation to follow it". A few months later, he ousted Tyndall as leader of the BNP.
Lanc's Lad
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3:58am Wed 10 Jun 09
holsten pils
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7:33am Wed 10 Jun 09
Some go on about history , the only history we should reflect on is the wars that our older people fought in and those same older people voting BNP because they are sick of seeing all they fought for being given away to the moslems.
BNP voters are not nazis at all , i am certainly not ! and nor are they brainless etc as they come from all walks of life and one could say they are the ones with the foresight to see what is happening and those with lesser intelligence cannot ??
As for democracy ! the ones that pelted Nick Griffin with eggs showed that they cannot accept democracy and that a legitimate party have gained council and mep seats , well tough they are here to stay and growing in support and power , thank goodness for democracy .
hasslem hasslem
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7:59am Wed 10 Jun 09
debs231 wrote:Debs,
I personally voted BNP because Im white and British. even with the way the country is im still proud of England the way generations before us set up democracy for our benefit even a national Health service with people of our generation in mind. you ask why immigrants flock to britain ? its because of the benefits of living in our fine nation now why dont they distribute themselfs among all of the other countrys around europe ? why do people from the east of Europe immigrate to England ? its because there is a hugh benefit of living here, but it comes at a cost to all the hard working tax paying people of britain and we can't even fly our national flag with pride? If we don't even have a single MEP in Europe who is prepared to defend all the great things that our fathers, grand fathers, great grand fathers, great great grandfathers etc (and mothers for that matter)invented, built and achieved then this great little country will one day be broken and ruined. basically we should keep britain britsh because thats why its such a great country. If we don't vote for somebody who is going to argue from our point of view then our point of view just gets ignored thats why democratically everybody has the right to vote however they like. who the hell did you vote for and why ?????
Do you think that our country is the only one in Europe that has seem immigration over the last 40-50yrs.
Think you will find there is a bigger Muslim populatio in Germany than UK. Equally, if you think there are a large number of former East Europeans here - then get a cheap flight to any German city.
Have you ever been to France, Belgium or Holland and lookes at the influx of immigration from each country's former colonies.
If you think that England is the only country where immigrants head to the you don't live in England...you live in Cloud-Cuckooland.
lancastrian lass
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9:06am Wed 10 Jun 09
j bee
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9:14am Wed 10 Jun 09
holsten pils wrote:you are right there are immigrants all over the world and what if we had to bring back all the british people who went to live in forein countries, ill tell you what englang would sink
People on here are quick to call BNP supporters idiots / brain dead etc , this is because they themselves are to thick to see what is happening to our country due to immigration the moslems etc and think it is ok for us to keep the world with our schools / health etc and for us to build on green belt land to house even more immigrants and houses to be built to moslem standards. Some go on about history , the only history we should reflect on is the wars that our older people fought in and those same older people voting BNP because they are sick of seeing all they fought for being given away to the moslems. BNP voters are not nazis at all , i am certainly not ! and nor are they brainless etc as they come from all walks of life and one could say they are the ones with the foresight to see what is happening and those with lesser intelligence cannot ?? As for democracy ! the ones that pelted Nick Griffin with eggs showed that they cannot accept democracy and that a legitimate party have gained council and mep seats , well tough they are here to stay and growing in support and power , thank goodness for democracy .
midas
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9:30am Wed 10 Jun 09
Pity that your view of life is so narrow, pity that you have to blame the hardship that you and your family have faced on immigrants, pity that you feel you have lost control of your own destiny, pity that you are fearful of change, pity that you feel threatened by a religion. Years ago I am sure you would have been a Luddite.
milty
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10:58am Wed 10 Jun 09
midas
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11:38am Wed 10 Jun 09
milty wrote:Does this mean that you support the BNP because they will highlight to the rest of the world how bad Burnley is not that they will make it any better?
I mean Midas, the more attention on Burnley the better, cos if the BNP set up shop in Burnley, youll get all the political commentators, party leaders etc focusing on why Burnley is such an attractive spot for the BNP, then maybe theyll see how Burnley as been left to rack n ruin, no jobs, run down housing, drug problems, declining population, then maybe something will get done. I can tell you one thing for sure, Burnley and surrounding areas will end up being a citadel for the BNP, i support them cos they are the only ones i can relate to, and if im slaged off for it so be it.
Lifeinthemix
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11:42am Wed 10 Jun 09
Tis true I am guilty of presenting all who support the BNP as rather lacking...
I do so to agitate a thought process in which one would ask why such labels are pushed.
The problem for most people, not just BNP supporters, is the fact that when it comes to the nazis, everything focuses on the war alone.
It is the information before the war, from as far back as 1923 that is missing from the minds of most, and here lies the problem.
In the BNP we can see the same strategies as played out in Germany, ending up as the National Socialist party (Nazis), which was a long time in the making, not some flash in the pan event.
Again to the disadvasntage of many, without a full understanding of what is termed the 'Occult' (That which is secret), then again one is shy of the mark in grasping , what fascism is, and from what centre it emenates.
Given the amount of historical study I have undertaken over the last almost 17 years, I claim the title 'historian'. That being so I am not offering pretence I am better than anyone else, but having focused to such studies for such a long time I do have a immense grasp on the history of such movements.
Today in this time however,I see the BNP as nothing other than a distraction, a distraction put forward by the real fascist's . Truth is this thing we call fascism comes from the elite bloodlines, who have power in every European nation, and, have their managers across the globe in other nations, The Rockefellers in the US, The Oppenhiemers in South Africa, ETC.
So the destruction of our nation, and yes to much to fast immigration is definitely a major factor in this destruction, but it is not the fault of those who do come to live here, it lies at the feet of much higher levels of power, and is administered via the secret societies, and so is secret.
Take the Muslims who have been born in England, these people are English, period.
And for those who just attack these young people do not know these people or have never tried to include them.
I can say without a shadow of a doubt, Muslim mums and dads close your eyes here... That young Muslims are as English as we white are, they drink more than me, they have more girlfriends than I can count, and this is also true of the Muslim girls, face facts they are English.
The problem as I see it is the fact the government have set the whole system up to excacibate the situation by giving far to many rights to newcomers, over the rights of the natives.
Do we really have to give the likes of the BNP power to get the changes we want?
What we need to do is come together as a people and protest whichever government is in power.
We Brits have forgot how to keep what we had, we now want back, we have to force the issue, so that means putting the cans down, leave the spliffs till the evening, turn off the TV and get your heads together.
I am doing all I can to bring to book Hyndburn council but with no support whatever, the world of politic has never had it so easy as far as getting what they want , but that is your fault, not the immigrants, nor is it the fault of the jews.
All the organisations in this country are bringing this nightmare into fruition, we have to stand up and say 'NO'...But niot through such operations as the BNP.
give it some serious thought people, and if i make sense to any of you out there i would love your support so I can do what it is we all want without any connections to any such vibrations as those involved with the BNP.
Miller11
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12:48pm Wed 10 Jun 09
A lot of the party’s policies I support whole-heartedly, but there are some I see as being far too extreme, and somewhat ridiculous.
Happily, now they will have some influence. Not "power" but influence.
Scenario 1:
You are a white employer, for example, a shopkeeper, and you had 2 applicants for a job. Both had identical education and work backgrounds, solid references, smart appearance etc.
One was white and one was asian, who would you employ?
Scenario 2: You are an asian restaurant owner and you placed an advert for a chef.
One white applicant approaches you. He has years of experience in various different places. He's been to college, won awards, glowing references, very personable.
His rival for the job is a young asian lad. Never had a job before, didn't do much at school, shares your beliefs values and customs though.
Scenario 1: You need to prove you are diverse and supporting equality, so of course the asian lad/lass gets the job. After a while, your new member of staff doesn't feel comfortable in serving people alcohol. It’s against their beliefs. This creates extra work for you - totally unnecessarily. You're not impressed, and think about getting rid... but how? You can't! You'd be deemed racist, and you'd have failed to meet the needs of your staff in the laws eyes.
Scenario 2: Of course the asian lad gets the job - you know him, he's one of your own! Maybe you even go to mosque with his dad!
The other bloke doesn't speak the right language - he only speaks English!
Anyone who denies things like this happen on a daily basis is either deluded or a liar.
It is an absolute JOKE where flying the flag of your nation, and celebrating your nations patron saint day is considered racist, unacceptable and illegal!
No doubt I'll get called racist now. I don't care. I know what I am and what I believe. I have a diverse group of mates who would agree with me!
Political correctness has risen to absolutely ludicrous levels. And in my eyes, the word racist has lost all meaning!
Now to be white, male, heterosexual, working class, able bodied and able minded is seen as something to almost be ashamed of. Many people fall into this category, and need to find a political voice!
Being tolerant of others to the detriment of you, and people like you is utterly ridiculous!
Attacking BNP voters as "Bigots", "stupid", "narrow-minded", "intolerant" is pathetic.
A group of lads go on a march to show their disgust at muslims abusing our soldiers on their return home. They are branded "thugs", "hooligans", "yobs" and "racists" and are linked to football violence (throwing mud on another subject the press sensationalise and the middle classes pour scorn on and make aspersions about).
People protest about the BNP being democratically elected, and are made out to be upholders of standards and decency.
Lifeinthemix:
"Take the Muslims who have been born in England, these people are English, period."
Period? American are we? And do you really think so... they are English when it suits them!
Ask them what their nationality is!
Also lifeinthemix, you tread on really dangerous ground; you come across like a cult member/leader.
DavidBurnley
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12:53pm Wed 10 Jun 09
I'm not sure exploration of grand conspiracy theories involving secret societies, international dodgy dealing etc adds much to things at this point.
hasslem hasslem
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1:54pm Wed 10 Jun 09
midas wrote:Midas,
go on i will give you the rope, whats a Puma?
Puma is, I am afraid, cockney rhyming slang. Add the word "Tracky" as in track-suit and consider the rhyming options.
lancastrian lass
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2:06pm Wed 10 Jun 09
Choc-ice I would have to agree with lifeinthemix..the british muslims are english...as for those who say well ask them their nationality...have you ever considered doing just that? asking them directly instead of believing the propoganda that is aired around all over the show?
Some folk on here show a serious lack of education, general knowledge and common sense.
Miller11
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2:26pm Wed 10 Jun 09
lancastrian lass wrote:Many of my Hindu mates will tell me they are English but are proud of their Indian roots and heritage - thats fine!
there is a comment above referring to me as asian, I am not..just because I think for myself after much thought provoked discussions and debates and just because my views maybe sympathetic to people of different backgrounds doesn't mean Im asian. Choc-ice I would have to agree with lifeinthemix..the british muslims are english...as for those who say well ask them their nationality...have you ever considered doing just that? asking them directly instead of believing the propoganda that is aired around all over the show? Some folk on here show a serious lack of education, general knowledge and common sense.
They embrace English culture, speak English well, happily and comfortably integrate and mix with people, and are PROUD to be both English and Indian.
They find it abhorrent that people would come into this country, disrespect its long standing values and heritage to try and recreate the circumstances they left to "better themselves" in the first place (aside from stopping state assistance and protection).
The only "propaganda" that exists is that which has clearly got to you.
I gave up reading newspapers a while a go - they are far from objective, and as for the BBC...
I like to get an objective summary and make up my own mind about things.
Does this mean I show a "serious lack of education, general knowledge and common sense."?
Or does it mean you are so arrogant you believe your opinion is the only one which is valid?
How tolerant and understanding of you!
em..accy
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3:28pm Wed 10 Jun 09
midas
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3:57pm Wed 10 Jun 09
willybob
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4:06pm Wed 10 Jun 09
duke bar
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5:15pm Wed 10 Jun 09
Now tell me i am wrong.
Facts facts facts.
ranimuk
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5:23pm Wed 10 Jun 09
RAyzer
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5:30pm Wed 10 Jun 09
holsten pils
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5:31pm Wed 10 Jun 09
And the difference is British immigrants go to places with their own money to live off , their own houses , in good health etc etc , instead of leeching off the nhs . nenefits etc like those that come here , they also accept the countries they go to way of living etc and do not try to change it and to build loads of religious buildings etc , maybe if Britain adopted these same methods they wouldnt all come here.
Labour have allowed the scum of the earth to come here and has actually imported terrorists to please America. It all neds to stop asap and the BNP are the only party to do it .
I am also not at all surprised by the newspapers today, Sun ,Star etc glorifying the throwing of an egg aka violence and thuggery , yet can one imagine the other spin they would have put on these idiotic actions if it had been a BNP member throwing an egg at a moslem leader etc , seems violence is ok in some peoples eyes if directed at someone that the people of the country voted in through democracy but doesnt quite fit the goody two shoes left that want to give our country away.
Burnley student
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6:38pm Wed 10 Jun 09
Goodbye democracy, we'll miss you
Miller11
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6:56pm Wed 10 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:The BNP were DEMOCRATICALLY VOTED IN you silly little middle class child.
It's MUSLIM, if your going to insult them atleast spell it right. Goodbye democracy, we'll miss you
Go and make a placard and stand on a street pretending you can make a difference, when in fact all you are doing is trying to promote an "intelligent" image of yourself.
holsten pils
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7:05pm Wed 10 Jun 09
Go get your hat with the big D on
Lifeinthemix
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7:51pm Wed 10 Jun 09
I have to come to the students rescue here, the corect spelling for Muslim is actually Moslem..
Anhd as for Searchlight...they tie in with the ADL, the very same organisation contolling the BNP..
DavidBurnley, Burnley says...
The best evidence points to Prescott Bush circle, and the CIA, and the latest info puts Popy George Bush in the frame also.
Like Lincoln, Kennedy was going to remove the British Crown from power over America's money creation...Like Lincoln, Kennedy was assassinated.
Who pulled the triggers, is still a little mysty, but the reasons and the cabal are pretty well exposed today.
Miller11, Mellor says...
I am not saying they are all in love with Blighty, but if they were included that little bit more then they would feel more British. There is work to be done on both sides.
As for cult member leader, don't they have plenty of money.....If so then I wish. it is a dangerous game moving against the elite....
RAyzer
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9:39pm Wed 10 Jun 09
RAyzer
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9:44pm Wed 10 Jun 09
duke bar
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8:12am Thu 11 Jun 09
The Burnley student has no idea what went on in Burnley during the riots.
Because of this we now see the bnp getting a strong foot hold in the North West of England.
All the do gooders can now see that the Burnley RIOTS WERE THE BIRTH OF THE BNP IN ENGLAND.
You can not turn the clock back and change anything.
JUSTICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BACK THEN.
wE WERE TOLD LIES THAT Asians were the innocent victims of these riots .
This is absolute crap.
Lots of them caused fear and nearly death round duke bar that sunday night.100S OF THEM ON THE RAMPAGE WITH THE pOLICE DOING NOTHING TO ARREST THEM.They should have been punished.
Burnley folk voted for the bnp because they were angry that the Police the courts the MP,S and local councilors all failed them.They blamed the whites and let the Asians off scot free.
Burnley folked shocked the nation with voting for the bnp and now they have done it again.
The message of this story is listen to the people do not treat them like fools ,as when they react you don,t like it.
Burnley Student are you KITTY USHER IN DISGUISE??
As you sound as clueless as the rest of the Labour Government.
Burnley student
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9:06am Thu 11 Jun 09
lancastrian lass
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9:13am Thu 11 Jun 09
As for the likes of holsten pills etc if you hate muslims so much next time you are at the hospital to be treated for anything stand up, be a man & say you dont want to be treated by any Muslim doctor or nurse...hope you then see the error of your ways...also stop eating all those kebabs and curries after your pints at the local grubby backstreet pubs that we have in burnley (due to lack of investment etc etc)
Yes I know Im going on...is it getting to you? you getting wound up? your pure arian english blood at boiling point yet cos an english white woman is standing up for the rights of EVERYONE (not just asians or muslims) and NO im not married to one or brainwashed by them or anything else that you may accuse me of..such a good feeling to know that I can get under your skin!!!
duke bar
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9:31am Thu 11 Jun 09
What school did you go to Eton
duke bar
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9:31am Thu 11 Jun 09
What school did you go to Eton
duke bar
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9:34am Thu 11 Jun 09
Why did you forget ,is it because what i say is correct.....
Miller11
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10:03am Thu 11 Jun 09
I suppose being sophisticated, as you clearly are, you prefer swanky wine bars.
I quite like grubby pubs to be honest, they form an integral part of community life you see!
em..accy
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12:09pm Thu 11 Jun 09
midas
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12:32pm Thu 11 Jun 09
em..accy wrote:Possibly because she is now bi-lingual and multi-skilled. If I could speak 2 languages I would expect my wage to go up!
just had another thought - anyone got any thoughts on why in the 90's and my mother was working for hyndburn borough council her pay increased by 50% when she learn't how to speak punjabi?? Now thats intergration for you!!!
Or is your complaint that the second language was punjabi and not French or German?
em..accy
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12:36pm Thu 11 Jun 09
em..accy
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12:58pm Thu 11 Jun 09
Not sure if you've made it to uni yet? But when you do or if you have already be sure to make a note of the extra tuition, extensions on coursework deadlines and the extra time given in exams to students who aren't very good with the english language. At my uni it was 2 weeks extra for coursework, 1/2 an hr added time for exams or if they are really struggling some kind soul will write it in english for them translated from there native tounge!!!there are also classes that are held in there native language (whatever it is) and all this extra for the same price you will pay!!!
willybob
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2:44pm Thu 11 Jun 09
lancastrian lass wrote:interesting you mention the hospitals. have you any idea how many muslim men will not allow their wifes to be treated by a white doctor.
Miller 1 from Mellor please do calm down and stop getting your Y fronts in a twist. The Hindus say they find it abhorrent that a community can come here and not integrate? You should mention to them the term "white flight" that happened in schools such as Edge End in the mid-90s...asian kids joined the school and our white parents made theirs leave. Time & time again I've said integration is a 2 way process. As for the likes of holsten pills etc if you hate muslims so much next time you are at the hospital to be treated for anything stand up, be a man & say you dont want to be treated by any Muslim doctor or nurse...hope you then see the error of your ways...also stop eating all those kebabs and curries after your pints at the local grubby backstreet pubs that we have in burnley (due to lack of investment etc etc) Yes I know Im going on...is it getting to you? you getting wound up? your pure arian english blood at boiling point yet cos an english white woman is standing up for the rights of EVERYONE (not just asians or muslims) and NO im not married to one or brainwashed by them or anything else that you may accuse me of..such a good feeling to know that I can get under your skin!!!
as for white flight in our schools,too right. i know from experience how the young muslim lads speak to our daughters, absolutley disgusting.the reason being majority will not show respect for young white girls.but god forbid if a white lad his seen get friendly with a muslim girl, he is threatened with allsorts.
Burnley student
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4:54pm Thu 11 Jun 09
duke bar wrote:Hameldon, not sure you can get much further apart, now tell me i havent seen racial mixing.
Student.
What school did you go to Eton
willybob
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5:36pm Thu 11 Jun 09
Burnley student wrote:what a joke. you went to hameldon and yet you say there was no racial tension. dont make me laugh. both my sons went there and believe me there is racial tension
duke bar wrote: Student. What school did you go to EtonHameldon, not sure you can get much further apart, now tell me i havent seen racial mixing.
RAyzer
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8:10pm Thu 11 Jun 09
Lanc's Lad
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9:36pm Thu 11 Jun 09
Way to go ladies and gents, Lets support the Nazi sympathizer's, people who at one time praised the Waffen ss and blasted the Royal Air Force for their world war II efforts. (Welldone)
For once get off your jumped up high horse and see the positive's in this country not just the negative's
as there are + & -
in all walks of life.
Look a few weeks back where the troops parade in Luton was marred by Muslim terrorists sympathizer's and then a few days later these sympathizer's were confronted by a larger group of Muslim's opposed to this minority and there were scuffles.
You people say this and that about people of this country but you don't have any proof for anything you blurt out, for example:
you say that Muslim women don't like to be treated by a white doctor - show me the evidence, there was a time when there was a rumour that Muslims were asking nurses to turn there beds so they can pray - And that turned out to be false so how many of your so called facts are you gonna spread just to promote this filth.
Lanc's Lad
says...
10:06pm Thu 11 Jun 09
Just to prove how backward you people are, try to google bibi and if you don't know how to let me explain,
Bibi: means wife or lady of the house,
and as you say Mrs.
Mosque's are built with money people earn, do you really think the majority of the Muslim population of this country don't work, try again.
As for christian children not being allowed to join a Muslim school, use your brain if i already haven't exhausted it, for one minute, Would you let your child learn the Koran or how to live your live as a Muslim, that's part of the curriculum in a Muslim school as with any religion school - Christianity or Islam (I would not think so). Now a Muslim child in a christian school, you say that is a fact and thank you for partly proving my point as a Muslim child would have to learn about Christianity in a Christian school, and hey guess what it is a fact.
I could go on proving you nazi partying people wrong but once a nazi always a nazi.
I am patiently waiting for your replies as i love a really good laugh, your so called facts are amazing.
duke bar
says...
8:27am Fri 12 Jun 09
Sorry to make you cry again with this comment..
You can write what ever nonsense you wish.The plane facts are people have had enough of mainstream Politics.You have just seen this at the ballot box.
Get used of it Lancs lad.
THE BNP ARE NOT GOING AWAY.........
Miller11
says...
9:15am Fri 12 Jun 09
Can you just clarify something for me... are you praising the larger group who confronted them for their actions?
If so what are your thoughts on the group of white lads who did the same thing (and were branded football hooligans by the press, rather than proud citizens)????
Lanc's Lad
says...
10:49am Fri 12 Jun 09
Duke bar...
Again go do your research and find out how they were elected and then tell me they are here to stay.
Miller11...
Yes i praise the effort of these Muslim majority for standing up to these terror thugs, you always say the Muslim community are not doing enough to root out terrorism in the UK, you blast them if they don't and you blast them if they do.
Also i can not comment on the "Hooligan" story as this is the first i have heard about it, have you a link where i can read it before i do comment.
duke bar
says...
11:24am Fri 12 Jun 09
They are not going away like it or not.
Had justice been done in the Burnley Riots .
The bnp would have been long gone for ever.
Miller11
says...
12:27pm Fri 12 Jun 09
berty.org/story/2009
/05/27/racist-rampag
e-luton
http://barthsnotes.w
ordpress.com/2009/05
/25/violence-at-anti
-extremist-rally-in-
luton/
There's a couple of highly subjective links for you....
lancastrian lass
says...
2:36pm Fri 12 Jun 09
Lanc's Lad
says...
7:05pm Fri 12 Jun 09
I really think there is no debate as your evidence shows these people were that as they were exactly described as "Hooligans"
They attacked cars and innocent people. With the "Moderate" Muslims who stood up against these extremist, they did not go around damaging property or hurting innocent people, to be honest why do i waste my time telling you people facts when you can't weigh the evidence for yourselves, No wonder you people voted for the BNP.
Like sheep being herded by the sheepdog.
em..accy, altham
How old are you if you don't mind me asking, Because as with most BNP voters on here you don't have and credible debate and to be honest its becoming childish, stop showing yourselves up. I mean Why would you ask for a dome to be erected above your house, Permission is given because these places are places of worship or have i missed the point somewhere please do tell.
And last
Duke Bar...
Your record scratched or something your telling me you went to vote BNP, a party with a leader who Blasted our veterans of WWII, In which way are they different to those extremists who stood on the side of the road in Luton and blasted our troops who were parading proudly.
You say no justice was done and it was a one sided affair, really grow up and just travel and see the World and you will see there is a whole World outside Burnley, You win some you lose some, but that what makes you stronger and you move on but i guess you don't have a life after These riots.
Lanc's Lad
says...
7:13pm Fri 12 Jun 09
I really think there is no debate as your evidence shows these people were that as they were exactly described as "Hooligans"
They attacked cars and innocent people. With the "Moderate" Muslims who stood up against these extremist, they did not go around damaging property or hurting innocent people, to be honest why do i waste my time telling you people facts when you can't weigh the evidence for yourselves, No wonder you people voted for the BNP.
Like sheep being herded by the sheepdog.
em..accy, altham
How old are you if you don't mind me asking, Because as with most BNP voters on here you don't have and credible debate and to be honest its becoming childish, stop showing yourselves up. I mean Why would you ask for a dome to be erected above your house, Permission is given because these places are places of worship or have i missed the point somewhere please do tell.
And last
Duke Bar...
Your record scratched or something your telling me you went to vote BNP, a party with a leader who Blasted our veterans of WWII, In which way are they different to those extremists who stood on the side of the road in Luton and blasted our troops who were parading proudly.
You say no justice was done and it was a one sided affair, really grow up and just travel and see the World and you will see there is a whole World outside Burnley, You win some you lose some, but that what makes you stronger and you move on but i guess you don't have a life after These riots.
Burnley student
says...
12:08am Sat 13 Jun 09
holsten pils
says...
10:12am Sat 13 Jun 09
As for all the nazi crap , yes the BNP did go through a period of this crap but this was a few years ago and the majority of BNP supporters are ordinary people that are fed up of seeing our country being overun by immigrants and starting to look islamic and also with the moslems trying to bring in their own laws and of course their marches , but as i have said before they have never marched against terrorism , books . cartoons , films , but not to terrorism , i think this tells a story in itself that the so called moderate moslems actually agree with terrorists activities and the latest lot all British born unfortunately and all of pakistani origin , but they will always be moslems first , pakistani second and then maybe a bit British.
Lanc's Lad
says...
2:49pm Sat 13 Jun 09
holsten pils,
As i mentioned before get out of Burnley and see the world, do you really think the Muslim's of Britain are trying to take over and bring in their law, if they really wanted to do that, whats stopping that from happening. Stop swallowing everything you hear and actually think about it. Lets look at America, after all they have been through, they have a African American president, Does that mean that the Africans are gonna take over America?
and actually think about it before you do answer that.
How can the 950.000 people of Britain who voted for BNP be ordinary?
They voted for people who again i have to mention blatantly stuck up for the nazi's, why would you you do that just because you stupidly THINK Muslims are taking over. I just honestly can't sum that up.
You really don't have facts do you, just your assessment of what is happening, without asking or finding out for yourself why it is happening?.
As for the moderate Muslims they stood up AGAINST these supporters of terrorism, Why are you trying to twist the truth?
How is there a story within that?
Is this "moderate Crowd" not a step in the right direction?, they have stood up to these people to show the people of this country, that they do not support any kind of extremism and they want peace, Google the story and have a look at the pics and see how many people turned up against extremism and yes i know that these people have only done this the first time but if you think about it most people of this country don't like Muslims full stop, no matter what they do, you are a prime example. If you actually gave Muslims of this country respect and give them a chance to feel British, and not say to them F OFF BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY every chance you get, WHICH EVEN IF YOU WERE BORN HERE, Where would you go? that question really makes them feel proud.
A person is a Human with feelings no matter what religion or walk of life they come from.
Have you actually asked a British born Muslim how they feel?.
I am a British Born Muslim, why don't you ask me?,
Please tell me which marches are you on about? so i can comment on that too.
I think I'm gonna follow your advice Burnley Student and let them self destruct.
tiojo
says...
6:18pm Sun 14 Jun 09
holsten pils
says...
9:14am Tue 23 Jun 09
As for getting out of Burnley , i have been all over the place including islamic countries especially those where we were told we could not take a bible or cross / crucifix " and no churches were allowed,see how lucky you heathens are to be allowed to worship you religion here " .
tiojo ! the BNP are not racist they are realist and they are the only party that are trying to preserve our country, religion and culture and many more people will be voting for them in future and how you can say the people that voted for them are not ordinary is ludicrous ,it is not racist to protect ones own country from immigrant takeover and all those that voted abhor the thought of being called nazis , but this is what happens when those that believe the anti BNP hype via the government and media / unions because they are a tad thick and after all the BNP are a legitamate party so you would rather there was no democracy , maybe the taliban are the party for you and lancs lad ???
Burnley student
says...
5:11pm Tue 23 Jun 09
I note you complain you were told not to take christian items yet agree with a party that wants to do the same to Muslims in this country.
How do you want the BNP to get rid of Muslims or indeed many of the ethnic groups they deem unfit?
Mass forced emigration? I think you need to accept that Muslim people are no where near as bad as you make out, i would much sooner make friends with them than BNP supporters.
I respect the fact that you've traveled, but have you stood in a gas chamber at Auschwitz and been told who did this and why? go do that, read up on your history a little then come and tell me the BNP are what we need.
6 MILLION people killed because of a party who hated a race and believe their land was only fit for their kind.
holsten pils
says...
6:18pm Wed 24 Jun 09
I would stop all further immigration from islamic countries due to the terrorist that we are letting in and i would deport hate preachers instantly instead of giving them big houses in London and benefits galore .
I care not for the concentration camps as thankfully they are gone but there is no comparison between the BNP and the nazis , the BNP want immigrants out but not to gas them etc .
I think you are on dangerous ground wanting to befriend a moslem rather than a BNP member as there are many moslems from this country fighting for the taliban and at one time there were something like 77% of pakistanis saying they supported the taliban , so watch what you wish for and instead of sticking up for them as they build mosque after mosque in our country open your eyes and see what is really happening to our country due to this barbaric religion.
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duke bar says...
9:20am Tue 9 Jun 09
This has put that CAT AMONGST THE PIGEONS.
ANDY ,GAGJA, V ARKAN ,RAZYER.
Us nuetrals will watching this one with interest. ha ha. kin ell fire.
I could not have said this or made it up ,as i am often fishing for a bite from both camps.
This is not going to do Burnleys image any good to be honest.Were called a racist town by outsiders now it looks like we have cemented this image. If the bnp move to BURNLEY