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Foreign-registered drivers owe Lancashire £640k in speeding fines


FOREIGN drivers on Lancashire’s roads have evaded speeding fines worth more than £640,000 in five years because of an EU loophole.

Figures obtained by the Lancashire Telegraph under the Freedom of Information Act show that more than 10,500 tickets have been ripped up since 2004 because police cannot trace the drivers once they leave Britain.

It means that the county’s police have missed out on fines worth up to £641,400 which equates to more than six cancelled tickets a day, or 45 a week.

Police chiefs have blamed the staggering statistics on an EU loophole which means they cannot the access vehicle registration systems of other European countries.

But East Lancashire MPs have branded the figures “appalling” and “disturbing” and have demanded action.

Greg Pope, member for Hyndburn, said: “These statistics are appalling.

"I am sure motorists will be horrified that they have to pay but these foreign drivers don’t have to.

“My understanding was that we have an agreement with other EU countries so we can just contact the equivalent DVLA to trace these drivers.”

Ribble Valley MP Nigel Evans added: “Clearly this is very disturbing.

"Hundreds of thousands of pounds are being lost in fines because of this loophole and foreign drivers are proving themselves to be above the law.

“Urgent cooperation is needed among all countries to ensure that offenders are not getting away with it.”

He also urged police to use clamping and ‘smart technology’ to target offenders.

Meanwhile, the problems Lancashire police bosses say they encounter have been backed up by a leading motorists’ group.

Jo Abbott, of the RAC Foundation, agreed that a Europe-wide policy change was needed.

She said: “The real problem is that the EU does not yet have a directive or agreement that says that there is a system needed to help collect these fines, although they are talking about it at the moment.

“In some countries they have on-the-spot fines. So, for example, if someone from Lancashire speeds on a French road, they could be fined on the spot.

“And if they don’t have the money, they could be taken to a cash machine to pay the fine.”

The foundation would prefer traffic police to be “out there patrolling the roads” rather than using speed cameras, added Miss Abbott.

The figures, which are held centrally by Lancashire police, take into account cancelled speeding fines since the beginning of 2004 but do not include all unpaid tickets by foreign drivers.

Officials said tracking down all tickets unpaid by overseas motorists would be too time-consuming and was not covered by Freedom of Information.

A police spokesman added: “This is a nationally recognised issue and plans are in place at national level for future enforcement techniques.

“However, at the moment there is an obvious difficulty in tackling this issue as we do not have access to foreign registration systems.

“In Lancashire, when we have a large influx in any one area of foreign motorists caught speeding, we are able to put markers on those vehicles so that our Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) teams are then able to stop the vehicles and obtain details from the driver.”

Earlier this year, a Lancashire speed camera technician was fired after 545 drivers were wrongly hit with speeding fines when he failed to correctly calibrate a mobile speed camera.

And last month, it emerged that more than 1,200 motorists had been fined up to £72,000 by a single mobile camera on the A56 Accrington bypass.


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Centaur, Abroad says...
4:44pm Mon 4 Aug 08

So there is a God after all. I'll be over to Lancashire very soon and speed away merrily (well at least 33 in a 30 zone and maybe 72 on the Motorway) Fining drivers for miserable speeds just over the limit is only another way of applying tax. In Germany, I can travel at speeds of up to 200 Mph as long as my car can do it. Guess what... there are very few accidents at such speeds in Europe. The 70 Mph on mMotorways was introduced to limit petrol useage during the mid-east petrol crisis. It hasn't been removed, just like income tax was introduced to pay for the Nepoleonic war.. It's still there!

warren2007, darwen says...
8:36pm Mon 4 Aug 08

cant trace then they shouldnt be allowed on our roads

RedS, Burnley says...
9:07pm Mon 4 Aug 08

All I can say is "Good on 'em" for avoiding yet another stealth tax eagerly accepted by our councillor's as a valid means to acquire even more money to waste on senseless projects.

Chris Hopper (the author of this article), who must have picked up a good overall feeling for this topic during his research states: "It .." (the £640k shortfall in speeding tickets) " .. means that the county’s police have MISSED OUT on fines worth up to £641,400 ...".
Missed out? Are speeding tickets now an opportunity relied upon to fund our police force? I'm sorry, but I was under the misapprehension that I'd already paid for our police force in my 'legitimate' tax-bill!

Councillor Greg Pope is absolutely out of touch (as expected) when he states:
"I am sure motorists will be horrified that they have to pay but these foreign drivers don’t have to.", as, in my view; motorists are horrified that they have to pay yet another stealth-tax AT ALL, and cheer those that 'get away with it'.

Greg continues on by advertising his complete ignorance with his statement of:
“My understanding was that we have an agreement with other EU countries so we can just contact the equivalent DVLA to trace these drivers”.

Can someone please remind Greg of the age-old school addage regarding the word 'ASSUME': "It makes an **** out of U and ME"? If councillors / MP's at least applied a little of their time to personal research for the exhorbitant expenses that they allegedly claim - it may result in at least some of their statements being correct.

Nigel Evans MP continues on in the same vein:
"Hundreds of thousands of pounds are being LOST in fines because of this loophole ...".
Lost? Are these fines actually predicted in the budget? The wording from a councillor and an MP seem to indicate this, and they seem to be blissfully ignorant of the fact that they are blatantly sending out the message that 'Joe Bloggs' on the street is really as thick as they think he is.

This message is so abundantly clear - I'm only surprised that the Thatcher Poll-Tax riots haven't been dwarfed by the reaction.

Speeding tickets are simply a stealth tax (required because of the drop in smoking revenue - a tax now easily morally dodged because it is now obvious that it was/is yet another cash-making tax). Speed cameras are NOT concentrated at accident black-spots, they are concentrated at the most likely spots where the state will most likely catch-out 'decent, law-abiding' citizens.

"Officials said tracking down all tickets unpaid by overseas motorists would be too time-consuming ...", which pretty well covers the government current policy on crime-prevention, whereby tracking down shop-lifters, burglars, the violent, rapists and murderers is too time-consuming, especially when the 'speeding-fine' cash cow is the only serious way to make money.

Whilst taxes are immoral - I will gladly use any legal loop-hole to dodge them, and encourage everyone else to do the same.

Offended, Omnipresent says...
10:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08

Yah, mail order road policing doesn't work.

Down with the gutters.

Ex-Pat, 2000 Miles Away says...
3:26am Tue 5 Aug 08

Get a leaf out of Tenerifes policing policy you plonkers, no money no csr, tow the car away, seize it, make them pay on the spot, are you stupid or what????

jcb, darwen says...
9:06am Tue 5 Aug 08

Red S, you really are very stupid aren't you? It's not a stealth tax, it's a fine for BREAKING THE LAW. Or are you one of those who picks and chooses which laws to obey?

MJA, Grindleton says...
10:57am Tue 5 Aug 08

Hear hear, JCB. Speeding fines are easily avoided - Don't speed. Simple. Surely the issue here is that there is no deterrent to stop foreigners speeding and therefore increasing the risk of being the cause of a serious accident.

Centaur, Abroad says...
5:35pm Tue 5 Aug 08

jcb wrote:
Red S, you really are very stupid aren't you? It's not a stealth tax, it's a fine for BREAKING THE LAW. Or are you one of those who picks and chooses which laws to obey?
If fines were correctly applied,and the law had just punishments then we would need 1 out of every 3 people to be a policemen or law official. Don't tell me that you have never broken the law...we all have, but maybe not intentionally. I once got caught doing 54 mph on a road that was emplty (apart from a speed copper) in good weather, in the open countryside and got fined £80. Yes technically I broke the law. But then the law is an ****, and is for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. Judge yourself and not others! Red S has a good point and is entitled to voice his opinion without a vociferous minority hurdling abuse at him.

TONY WALES, NELSON says...
12:54pm Sat 9 Aug 08

I find it quite remarkable that people who gladly tell people how good a driver they are, and how fast they drive, moan when they get a fine for speeding.
The sign of a good driver is one who observes th Highway Code and the speed limit. The bad one is the one who provides work for the undertaker.

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