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More East Lancs schools to close due to teachers' strike
4:20pm Wednesday 23rd April 2008
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PUPILS at dozens of schools across East Lancashire will have the day off tomorrow as their teachers go out on strike.
Teachers across the country will be protesting against the government's proposed 2.45% pay increase - an award they say amounts to a real-terms pay cut because of national inflation rates of more than 4%.
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It will be the first national teachers' strike since 1987.
Peter Morgan, strategic director of children's services at Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council, said: "Decisions on school closures are the responsibility of the head teacher in consultation with their chair of governors.
"Any decision to close a school is only made as a last resort when there is no alternative available.
"In line with national guidance, all schools in Blackburn with Darwen have looked at how they can stay open for pupils.
"However, after carrying out a careful risk assessment, a number have decided they will have to close and parents will now be informed.
"In most cases the schools will remain open to other staff who are not on strike so that they can continue to plan and prepare lessons."
Lancashire County Council workers have warned that schools do not necessarily have to inform the council if they are intending to shut their doors for the day.
County Councillor Vali Patel, cabinet member for schools, said: "It is unfortunate that the situation has reached the point where teachers' unions feel that industrial action is unavoidable with the disruption to schools that inevitably follows.
"Schools largely run themselves, so head-teachers must decide how to react to the NUT strike, based on the particular circumstances at their individual schools.
"The County Council will, of course, offer support, but they will make their own decisions.
"In the event that a school has to close, it will be the parents' responsibility to look after their children, as they would on any other day they were out of school."
SCHOOLS SET TO CLOSE TOMORROW
- BURNLEY Barden Junior School, Burnley Holy Trinity Church of England Primary School, Burnley St James' Lanhead Church of England Primary School, Burnley St Stephen's Church of England Voluntary Aided Primary School, Burnley Stoneyholme Community Primary School, Burnley Whittlefield Primary School, Cherry Fold Community Primary School, Ridgewood Community High School, St John the Baptist RC Primary, Burnley, St John the Baptist RC Primary, Padiham, Unity College.
- CHORLEY: Buckshw Primary School, Chorley Astley Park, Chorley Southlands HS, Chorley St Peter's CE Primary, Christ Church Charnock Richard CE Primary, Clayton Brook PS, Highfield Primary, Sacred Heart Catholic Primary, St Joseph's Catholic Primary.
- HYNDBURN: Accrington St John with St Augustine CE Primary, Belthorn Foundation Primary, Broadfield School, Mount Carmel RC High, Oswaldtwistle Moor End Community Primary, Rishton Methodist, St Charles' RC Primary, Rishton.
- PENDLE: Barnoldswick Gisburn Road Primary, Barnoldswick West Craven High Tech College, Barrowford St Thomas CE Primary, Colne Lord Street School, Earby Springfield Primary, Nelson Lomeshaye Junior School.
- RIBBLE VALLEY: Bowland HS, Clitheroe RGS, Langho and Billington St Leonard's CE, Ribblesdale HS, Thorneyholme RC Primary.
- ROSSENDALE: Bacup Nursery School, Bacup St Saviour's Community Primary, Haslingden HS Specialist ARts College, Northern Primary, Rawtenstall St Paul's Constable Lee CE Primary, Whitworth Community HS.
- BLACKBURN with DARWEN: Ashleigh, Audley Infants, Audley Juniors, Avondale, Beardwood, Blackburn the Redeemer, Cedars, Crosshill, Daisyfield, Darwen Moorland, Darwen Vale, Edgworth, Feniscowles, Griffin Park, Hawthorns, Holy Trinity, Intack, Longshaw Infants, Longshaw Juniors, Lower Darwen, Meadowhead Infants, Meadowhead Juniors, Newfield (exempted), Our Lady & St John, Pleckgate, Roe Lee Park, Sacred Heart RC, Shadsworth Infants, Shadsworth Juniors, St Aidan's CE, St Alban's RC, St Antony's RC, St Barnabas & St Paul CE, St Cuthbert's RC. St Francis, St James CE, St James CE, Darwen, St James CE, Lower Darwen, St Joseph's, St Luke & St Philips, St Matthew's CE, St Michael with St John CE, St Paus CE, St Pauls RC, St Silas CE, St Stephen's Infants, St Stephen's Juniors, St Thomas, St Wilfrids, Sudell, Sunnyhurst Centre, Wensley Fold CE, Witton Park.
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Darrener, says...
10:55am Tue 22 Apr 08
stooball66, backburn says...
10:56am Tue 22 Apr 08
WayneKerr, says...
11:22am Tue 22 Apr 08
Add to the list:
Prison officers
Pensions dept
Benefits dept
Police
fire Brigade
Mental health workers
Royal mail
BA Pilots
Not forgetting the oil refinary workers who are going out next week for 2 days.
No doubt there are many others too.
NuLabour same old problem. The country at a standstill.
Bill, Burnley says...
11:24am Tue 22 Apr 08
stooball66 wrote:Whether teachers are appropriately remunerated is not the point here. The point is that you seem to think they should not have any right to take industrial action because you think they are well-paid. Imagine if the government only allowed people to strike if they agreed they should have been paying them more anyway. A bit more thought please, before you unleash your devastating intelligence on a world that may not be ready for it.
Isnt 3and a half months holiday enough for them.Some one here is milking the system.
escaped, Spain says...
11:50am Tue 22 Apr 08
25 weeks a year.
£25/30 grand a year.
That to me is very good pay for a part time job.
Having said that though, Teachers are no different from their political masters who also work few hours per day and have extremely long 'recesses' and award themselves huge inflation busting pay rises.
nicola, blackburn says...
12:31pm Tue 22 Apr 08
iain, Burnley, says...
12:39pm Tue 22 Apr 08
With no goverment handouts unlike nurses
3/5 hrs day in preperation or marking after school
20k starting wage if they can find a job at all. Aggressive pupils and evenmore aggressive parents.Sounds like agood part time job to me find out the true facts before you spout off about the average teacher today
anon, darwen says...
12:55pm Tue 22 Apr 08
That's so raven, says...
1:09pm Tue 22 Apr 08
simon, harwood says...
1:58pm Tue 22 Apr 08
stooball66 wrote:you need to get yourself into school and see what they have to put up with, then you need to go home with them and see how much work they do, then vist the school during hols and just see how many teachers are actually in. dont forget that they also work during breaks and lunch breaks. Different matter when you want to take your kids on holiday during term time, that should compensate you for any loss of earning during the strike, come on teachers you go for it!!!
Isnt 3and a half months holiday enough for them.Some one here is milking the system.
Burnley Taxpayer, Burnley says...
4:35pm Tue 22 Apr 08
iain, Burnley wrote:Well said Iain. You wouldn't get me back in a school for double the salary. Some of those complaining should try it sometime - assuming they can manage the years of training and poverty before starting.
4 years University/training. With no goverment handouts unlike nurses 3/5 hrs day in preperation or marking after school 20k starting wage if they can find a job at all. Aggressive pupils and evenmore aggressive parents.Sounds like agood part time job to me find out the true facts before you spout off about the average teacher today
Jo, Darwen says...
5:10pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Bill wrote:Love it! Excellent reposte Bill...
stooball66 wrote: Isnt 3and a half months holiday enough for them.Some one here is milking the system.Whether teachers are appropriately remunerated is not the point here. The point is that you seem to think they should not have any right to take industrial action because you think they are well-paid. Imagine if the government only allowed people to strike if they agreed they should have been paying them more anyway. A bit more thought please, before you unleash your devastating intelligence on a world that may not be ready for it.
Karen, Blackburn says...
5:11pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Bill wrote:Bill from Burnley, not a teacher by any chance? Your response is typically patronising enough. What about all the Support staff receiving cuts of £3000 a year in Blackburn. There isnt any money for those, why do the teachers believe there is any for them. Pure selfishness.
stooball66 wrote: Isnt 3and a half months holiday enough for them.Some one here is milking the system.Whether teachers are appropriately remunerated is not the point here. The point is that you seem to think they should not have any right to take industrial action because you think they are well-paid. Imagine if the government only allowed people to strike if they agreed they should have been paying them more anyway. A bit more thought please, before you unleash your devastating intelligence on a world that may not be ready for it.
simon, Gt Harwood says...
5:14pm Tue 22 Apr 08
John, Accrington says...
5:20pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Karen, Blackburn says...
5:27pm Tue 22 Apr 08
simon wrote:Read my post, I did'nt say that the teachers were responsible. I am just reminding people that others (including school support staff) have just faced incredible salary reductions. This is because this Government has bankrupted us (Again)so there is obviously no money. I feel that to strike now is insensitive.
Karen, so thats the teachers fault then, lets blame them for the closure of coal mines amd Raffa when he loses his job!!!!
simon, gt harwood says...
5:33pm Tue 22 Apr 08
Retired Teacher, says...
6:28pm Tue 22 Apr 08
asif khan, blackburn says...
10:29pm Tue 22 Apr 08
trev, barrowford says...
1:26am Wed 23 Apr 08
Jacquie, says...
2:26am Wed 23 Apr 08
We are paying for the teachers to go and for all their food Ect. What p8888D me off most of all is they get paied their full money on an over time basis for going on a trip we are paying for them to go on.
Now that is taking the P**s.
Never mind that they get so many free places because of the numbers going yet we are still paying for all of them!!!
Q. How many other parents have been raped or bu****ed by their schools without as much as a thankyou for the plaesure.
If you dont let you kids go then the other kids take the P**s out of them because they are not going and i can tell you the School are aware of this but dont give a dam.
Jacquie, says...
2:29am Wed 23 Apr 08
Andy, Blackburn says...
6:44am Wed 23 Apr 08
john, blackburn says...
9:14am Wed 23 Apr 08
simon, gt harwood says...
9:29am Wed 23 Apr 08
Jacquie wrote:ah! so its the teachers fault you have to pay 1400.
Sorry i have miss led you a little its not £700 for my two kids it's £700 for ecach of my two kids £1400. Lets all go!
fed up, blackburn says...
10:25am Wed 23 Apr 08
Dave, Out of here soon says...
10:31am Wed 23 Apr 08
Andy wrote:Well said Andy. Those that can DO. those that can't TEACH!
Who forced these people to become teachers? They knew the terms of employment before they joined. If you hate a job so much (for whatever reason) then leave! Oh, actually they probably can't - they won't get a job anywhere else because they are not used to working a full time hours or having weeks and weeks of holidays. Surprised that the strike day isn't on Friday so they can have a long weekend.
You made your choices teachers. Now live with it or get a job in the REAL world. I really worry what these NIMBY PC pratts are filling my kids heads with.
P.S. If you really feel the need to strike, why not hold the strike on a "Teacher training day"......? You sad excuses.
Simon, harwood says...
10:47am Wed 23 Apr 08
Ruth, Burnley says...
10:54am Wed 23 Apr 08
My wage increases are well below inflation, as are all my friends', so I don't see why my money should be used to give public-service workers an even better deal than they get already. Flexitime, properly-regulated overtime, holidays when you actually want them, protected pension schemes are all pipe dreams to most of us.
Teachers, economy can't afford your pay increases, and sorry, but your job is no more difficult than the rest. The economy is in a state and its squeezing all our wages. Get used to it.
justme, bburn says...
11:21am Wed 23 Apr 08
Steve, Oswaldtwistle says...
11:25am Wed 23 Apr 08
Tony, Darwen says...
11:25am Wed 23 Apr 08
Paul, Rishton says...
11:34am Wed 23 Apr 08
Steve wrote:I'm sure Ruth would do a good as job as you Steve, if teachers weer so good after their 4 years training why do so many schools under perform, why after this training vcan they not control the cleassroom, seems that they are not actually doing what they are paid and trained for, oh and dont forgety Steve the training is not totally paid for by the teacher
Ruth, "Flexitime" - Teachers don't get flexitime; "properly-regulated overtime" - despite working long hours in the evening marking work and at the weekends planning, they don't get overtime; "holidays when you want them" - I don't see teachers having time off during the term time to allow them to get cut price holidays like the pupils parents can !!. As for your last comment, are you offering to take a class for a day ??? Have you and all your friends spent 4 years at university learning for your job??? (And no, I'm not a teacher !!)
Steve, Oswaldtwistle says...
11:37am Wed 23 Apr 08
Fenni Parent, Feniscowles says...
12:05pm Wed 23 Apr 08
I give up, Up North says...
12:24pm Wed 23 Apr 08
I have a good friend who did miserably in her GCSE'S.She got 2C's n the rest were D's E's n F's.
Now will some one please tell me how the hell she went on to do A levels (n did pretty awful in them to),N then guess what....?
She went to Uni for teacher training!(n still wasn't the brightest ).N she has been teaching kids down south as a Primary teacher for the last 12yrs.
Best of it is she has told me herself that she puts sums on the board n then asks the clever kid to show the class because she hasn't got a clue!Basically she has blagged it n earns a good wage for it.
N surely teachers should be the cream of the crop.Only the best should be allowed to train.But no - do appalling in your exams n you too can still apply to teach kids.
Its a joke.Which is why teaching standards have gone down and down.
I give up, Up North says...
12:28pm Wed 23 Apr 08
My teacher friend has been all over the world on school trips.You wouldn't believe some of the places.N yes she puts forward to take a trip abroad because you guessed right....she gets an all expenses paid freebie on the backs of you lot.
Anthony, blackburn says...
12:35pm Wed 23 Apr 08
anthony, blackburn says...
12:37pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Burnley Taxpayer, Burnley says...
2:36pm Wed 23 Apr 08
anthony wrote:And those who can't teach sit around complaining about teachers! Try the job yourself and see how the reality is different from the perception - assuming you have the brains to do so.
Those who can't - teach!
And no, I'm not a teacher, just a parent who knows the difference a good teacher makes to a child.
Teacher on Strike, Home says...
2:42pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Anthony, Blackburn says...
2:58pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Burnley Taxpayer wrote:Yes I do know what makes a good teacher and unfortunately there are not enough of them. When I was at University those who could not get jobs decided to do an extra year teacher training 1) extend the student life 2)because they think its easier to get a job teaching. I know someone who always wanted to be a teacher and they are a good teacher, thats the difference there are to many of the former kind and its is the bad ones who enjoy the perks and do the bare minimum which gets on everyones wick when they complain, expecially about pay which is not bad compaered to other more demanding jobs.
anthony wrote: Those who can't - teach!And those who can't teach sit around complaining about teachers! Try the job yourself and see how the reality is different from the perception - assuming you have the brains to do so. And no, I'm not a teacher, just a parent who knows the difference a good teacher makes to a child.
put kids first, Darwen says...
4:17pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Jack, Blackburn says...
5:34pm Wed 23 Apr 08
School of Rock, Blackburn says...
5:36pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Jack Black
Liz, Blackburn says...
6:04pm Wed 23 Apr 08
justme wrote:Don't worry, if its OLSJ, the kids wouldn't be missing much anyway.
Although i'm not in agreement with the teachers strike,i have to just say that my childs school(our lady's) has cancelled the next teacher training day to make up for the day lost through the strike action.so, a little common sense at one school at least then.
adam, London says...
7:31pm Wed 23 Apr 08
I give up wrote:You need Maths, English and for Primary Science too. These subjects must be grade C and above. If you friend does not have these they are not a fully qualified teacher. Looks like she has "blagged" you too.
Most teachers these days are c**p.Not all but most. I have a good friend who did miserably in her GCSE\'S.She got 2C\'s n the rest were D\'s E\'s n F\'s. Now will some one please tell me how the hell she went on to do A levels (n did pretty awful in them to),N then guess what....? She went to Uni for teacher training!(n still wasn\'t the brightest ).N she has been teaching kids down south as a Primary teacher for the last 12yrs. Best of it is she has told me herself that she puts sums on the board n then asks the clever kid to show the class because she hasn\'t got a clue!Basically she has blagged it n earns a good wage for it. N surely teachers should be the cream of the crop.Only the best should be allowed to train.But no - do appalling in your exams n you too can still apply to teach kids. Its a joke.Which is why teaching standards have gone down and down.
Tony, says...
9:23pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Tracey, Burnley says...
9:54pm Wed 23 Apr 08
teacher, Blackburn says...
10:47pm Wed 23 Apr 08
quoteI'm sure Ruth would do a good as job as you Steve, if teachers weer so good after their 4 years training why do so many schools under perform, why after this training vcan they not control the cleassroom, seems that they are not actually doing what they are paid and trained for, oh and dont forgety Steve the training is not totally paid for by the teacher
quotePaul in Rishton, perhaps if the parents who are all on here complaining about teachers striking actually brought their kids up with a bit more respect for their teachers then the job might not be as hard and we wouldn't be asking for more money for basically being parents, as well as trying to teach them something.
You get in a classroom and try to teach disinterested kids who no matter how exciting you make each lesson, refuse to co-operate, swear, shout and be generally obnoxious to those who they should have a lot more respect for.
The trouble is with our society these days is that we find it too hard to say no and are not harsh enough when it comes to telling parents how they should bring up their children.
Less of this namby pamby 'human rights' rubbish. Right or wrong needs to be brought back with consequences for the wrongs in our society. Until that changes and children have a bit more respect for their elders then teachers will continue to demand more money and rightly so. End of.
jay, Blackburnia says...
11:56pm Wed 23 Apr 08
25 hours a week.
25 weeks a year.
£25/30 grand a year.
That to me is very good pay for a part time job.
Having said that though, Teachers are no different from their political masters who also work few hours per day and have extremely long 'recesses' and award themselves huge inflation busting pay rises.
You are a dumb if you think thats all they do.
Try 50 - 55 hours a week.I should know
I give up, Up North says...
12:51am Thu 24 Apr 08
adam wrote:Sorry but I was with her when we got our results.
I give up wrote: Most teachers these days are c**p.Not all but most. I have a good friend who did miserably in her GCSE\'S.She got 2C\'s n the rest were D\'s E\'s n F\'s. Now will some one please tell me how the hell she went on to do A levels (n did pretty awful in them to),N then guess what....? She went to Uni for teacher training!(n still wasn\'t the brightest ).N she has been teaching kids down south as a Primary teacher for the last 12yrs. Best of it is she has told me herself that she puts sums on the board n then asks the clever kid to show the class because she hasn\'t got a clue!Basically she has blagged it n earns a good wage for it. N surely teachers should be the cream of the crop.Only the best should be allowed to train.But no - do appalling in your exams n you too can still apply to teach kids. Its a joke.Which is why teaching standards have gone down and down.You need Maths, English and for Primary Science too. These subjects must be grade C and above. If you friend does not have these they are not a fully qualified teacher. Looks like she has "blagged" you too.
If anything it's the kids that are being blagged by the people up above who let folk with crap qualifications into the system.
There's always some Uni somewhere that's willing to take you on regardless.
Robert Mugabe, On the dole looks lke for good says...
4:56am Thu 24 Apr 08
Steve, oswaldtwistle says...
9:06am Thu 24 Apr 08
justme, bburn says...
10:32am Thu 24 Apr 08
Liz wrote:Liz. Where do your children go then?
justme wrote: Although i'm not in agreement with the teachers strike,i have to just say that my childs school(our lady's) has cancelled the next teacher training day to make up for the day lost through the strike action.so, a little common sense at one school at least then.Don't worry, if its OLSJ, the kids wouldn't be missing much anyway.
lobotomised, Burnley says...
1:14pm Thu 24 Apr 08
1. I have just had a lobotomy can i be a retard teacher
2. Lets be honest most of the kids in school won't amount to sh*t anyway so why bother going to school
Liz, Blackburn says...
4:17pm Thu 24 Apr 08
justme wrote:St Augustines, thankfully I managed to get them there before it was too late.
Liz wrote:Liz. Where do your children go then?justme wrote: Although i\'m not in agreement with the teachers strike,i have to just say that my childs school(our lady\'s) has cancelled the next teacher training day to make up for the day lost through the strike action.so, a little common sense at one school at least then.Don\'t worry, if its OLSJ, the kids wouldn\'t be missing much anyway.
justme, bburn says...
9:18am Fri 25 Apr 08
Liz wrote:Good for you Liz, but for what reason are you so down on OLSJ? I live in Blackburn, not billington and send my daughter to the best school i could get her into.Saying that,my daughter is doing very well there. No bullying,all A's in her subjects and does lots of extra-curricular activities too.It's not the schools that are the problem,its the parents of some of the children that attend them.
justme wrote:St Augustines, thankfully I managed to get them there before it was too late.Liz wrote:Liz. Where do your children go then?justme wrote: Although i\'m not in agreement with the teachers strike,i have to just say that my childs school(our lady\'s) has cancelled the next teacher training day to make up for the day lost through the strike action.so, a little common sense at one school at least then.Don\'t worry, if its OLSJ, the kids wouldn\'t be missing much anyway.
I'd have a lot more sympathy for the teachers striking if it was about the work conditions rather than pay.
governor, says...
12:21pm Fri 25 Apr 08
Tracey wrote:What utter nonesense. As a governor at your school I know how well you are paid Tracey - so please stop this I am not paid enough nonesense. This strike purely for self-gain. If teachers were paid on performance management then we woould have more improved schools - consider yourself lucky tracey and do not bemoan the goo fortune you have. Not all children misbehave, just like the fact that soem of the teachers are pretty inadequate as well
I cannot believe the ignorance of people out there. I arrive at work at 8am and don't leave before 5.30pm. I then take work home in the evening. On nights when there are meetings it can be after 9pm when I get home. Parents just expect us to give up our time to look after their kids for longer. And what thanks do we get? Teaching is a difficult enough job without the numerous initiatives put on us by the Government (without the money given to schools to implement them), and the parents who constantly complain about schools and lack of discipline etc. It's about time parents took responsibility for their own children's behaviour and discipline them themselves. We are there to TEACH, not do the parents' job. It's about time teachers stood up for themselves - they've been walked over for far too long. And yes, I am a teacher and proud of it!
meme, bburn says...
2:22pm Fri 25 Apr 08
governor wrote:Tracey. Thats one of the big problems with schools today. Teachers don't teach anymore,they just train the children to try and pass exams so the school can look good.So many children leave school with 10 GCSE's but not an ounce of common sense
Tracey wrote: I cannot believe the ignorance of people out there. I arrive at work at 8am and don't leave before 5.30pm. I then take work home in the evening. On nights when there are meetings it can be after 9pm when I get home. Parents just expect us to give up our time to look after their kids for longer. And what thanks do we get? Teaching is a difficult enough job without the numerous initiatives put on us by the Government (without the money given to schools to implement them), and the parents who constantly complain about schools and lack of discipline etc. It's about time parents took responsibility for their own children's behaviour and discipline them themselves. We are there to TEACH, not do the parents' job. It's about time teachers stood up for themselves - they've been walked over for far too long. And yes, I am a teacher and proud of it!What utter nonesense. As a governor at your school I know how well you are paid Tracey - so please stop this I am not paid enough nonesense. This strike purely for self-gain. If teachers were paid on performance management then we woould have more improved schools - consider yourself lucky tracey and do not bemoan the goo fortune you have. Not all children misbehave, just like the fact that soem of the teachers are pretty inadequate as well
Tracey, Burnley says...
8:07pm Fri 25 Apr 08
governor wrote:At which point did I say - 'I am not paid enough'? If you had read my post correctly, you will have understood that I was talking about other people's perception of teaching. I also know that you are not a governor at my school - because my governors can spell! And guess what - I didn't strike!!!!!
Tracey wrote: I cannot believe the ignorance of people out there. I arrive at work at 8am and don\'t leave before 5.30pm. I then take work home in the evening. On nights when there are meetings it can be after 9pm when I get home. Parents just expect us to give up our time to look after their kids for longer. And what thanks do we get? Teaching is a difficult enough job without the numerous initiatives put on us by the Government (without the money given to schools to implement them), and the parents who constantly complain about schools and lack of discipline etc. It\'s about time parents took responsibility for their own children\'s behaviour and discipline them themselves. We are there to TEACH, not do the parents\' job. It\'s about time teachers stood up for themselves - they\'ve been walked over for far too long. And yes, I am a teacher and proud of it!What utter nonesense. As a governor at your school I know how well you are paid Tracey - so please stop this I am not paid enough nonesense. This strike purely for self-gain. If teachers were paid on performance management then we woould have more improved schools - consider yourself lucky tracey and do not bemoan the goo fortune you have. Not all children misbehave, just like the fact that soem of the teachers are pretty inadequate as well
a stressed teacher, Accrington says...
8:11pm Fri 25 Apr 08
meme wrote:Meme. Tell that to the government!
governor wrote:Tracey. Thats one of the big problems with schools today. Teachers don't teach anymore,they just train the children to try and pass exams so the school can look good.So many children leave school with 10 GCSE's but not an ounce of common senseTracey wrote: I cannot believe the ignorance of people out there. I arrive at work at 8am and don't leave before 5.30pm. I then take work home in the evening. On nights when there are meetings it can be after 9pm when I get home. Parents just expect us to give up our time to look after their kids for longer. And what thanks do we get? Teaching is a difficult enough job without the numerous initiatives put on us by the Government (without the money given to schools to implement them), and the parents who constantly complain about schools and lack of discipline etc. It's about time parents took responsibility for their own children's behaviour and discipline them themselves. We are there to TEACH, not do the parents' job. It's about time teachers stood up for themselves - they've been walked over for far too long. And yes, I am a teacher and proud of it!What utter nonesense. As a governor at your school I know how well you are paid Tracey - so please stop this I am not paid enough nonesense. This strike purely for self-gain. If teachers were paid on performance management then we woould have more improved schools - consider yourself lucky tracey and do not bemoan the goo fortune you have. Not all children misbehave, just like the fact that soem of the teachers are pretty inadequate as well
meme, bburn says...
10:36am Sat 26 Apr 08
a stressed teacher wrote:I have. It's just a shame that more parents don't care enough to write a letter expressing their feelings to the government too.
meme wrote:Meme. Tell that to the government!governor wrote:Tracey. Thats one of the big problems with schools today. Teachers don't teach anymore,they just train the children to try and pass exams so the school can look good.So many children leave school with 10 GCSE's but not an ounce of common senseTracey wrote: I cannot believe the ignorance of people out there. I arrive at work at 8am and don't leave before 5.30pm. I then take work home in the evening. On nights when there are meetings it can be after 9pm when I get home. Parents just expect us to give up our time to look after their kids for longer. And what thanks do we get? Teaching is a difficult enough job without the numerous initiatives put on us by the Government (without the money given to schools to implement them), and the parents who constantly complain about schools and lack of discipline etc. It's about time parents took responsibility for their own children's behaviour and discipline them themselves. We are there to TEACH, not do the parents' job. It's about time teachers stood up for themselves - they've been walked over for far too long. And yes, I am a teacher and proud of it!What utter nonesense. As a governor at your school I know how well you are paid Tracey - so please stop this I am not paid enough nonesense. This strike purely for self-gain. If teachers were paid on performance management then we woould have more improved schools - consider yourself lucky tracey and do not bemoan the goo fortune you have. Not all children misbehave, just like the fact that soem of the teachers are pretty inadequate as well
Liz, Blackburn says...
12:40pm Sun 27 Apr 08
OLSJ used to be a good school. The previous headmaster was excellent. Sorry to say the school appears to have lost the plot.
justme, bburn says...
5:07pm Sun 27 Apr 08
Liz wrote:Interested to know how your such an expert on OLSJ if you send your child/ren to St. Augustines.Like i have said, my daughter is doing extreamly well at OLSJ.It's not a bad school,it's bad parents that allow their children to get away with murder and have no control either through lack of knowledge or more likely,lack of concern.You can't blame the schools for the children acting like thugs. discipline starts at home.
justme, OLSJ used to be a good school. The previous headmaster was excellent. Sorry to say the school appears to have lost the plot.
doris, Blackburn says...
10:04pm Fri 2 May 08
Andy wrote:You need to get your facts straight! Not used to working full time hours! I arrive at school at 7.45, often have no time for a break throughout the day, I then leave school at 6.30pm most days including Friday. When I do get home I then work until I go to bed most nights! I am in school every holiday without failure resourcing my classroom. You obviously haven't got a clue what you are talking about!!!!
Who forced these people to become teachers? They knew the terms of employment before they joined. If you hate a job so much (for whatever reason) then leave! Oh, actually they probably can\'t - they won\'t get a job anywhere else because they are not used to working a full time hours or having weeks and weeks of holidays. Surprised that the strike day isn\'t on Friday so they can have a long weekend.
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2:50pm Tue 6 May 08
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stressed out mum, bburn says...
10:54am Tue 22 Apr 08