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Police reassure Pendle residents after 'race attacks' claim
10:09am Friday 11th April 2008
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POLICE have spoken out to reassure residents after councillors claimed there had been a number of racist attacks on white residents.
Nelson and Brierfield councillors have called for a crisis meeting with police after claiming there had been a spate of racist attacks by Asian youths.
But police said there had only been three reported incidents in the past four to six weeks in Nelson and Brierfield, and that only one was being treated as a racist crime.
Officers said there was a racist attack on a teenager who was collecting money for charity in the Cloverhill area of Nelson.
Four men have been arrested in connection with that incident.
Officers said two attempted car jackings on pensioners' vehicles, which took place 20 minutes apart in Cuckstool Lane and Halifax Road on April 2, were not being treated as racist incidents.
A racist incident is where the motivation for the crime is race.
Inspector Russ Procter said: "There have been incidents where Asian offenders have targeted white persons, but I would say that not all these offences are race related.
"But we want to reassure residents that there are no specific Asian gangs going round attacking people that we know about. All the incidents have been isolated."
Labour councillor Asjad Mahmood said: "I'm deeply shocked and appalled by what seem to be racist attacks on white residents in Nelson and Brierfield.
"Enough is enough and I want the police to adopt a zero-tolerance approach to this issue." Coun Mohammed Iqbal clai-med: "A few Asian lads have been going around attacking property of residents who are white.
"Windows have been broken by people throwing stones.
"This has been happening for the past four to six weeks and it is becoming quite bad."
Inspector Procter said they were investigating Coun Iqbal's claims and were due to meet him to discuss them.
He added: "All violent crime offences in the area are thoroughly investigated and we have again seen a reduction in violent crime within Nelson this year."
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carolyn, nelson says...
10:54am Fri 11 Apr 08
the police say there were 3 attacks in the last few weeks, that's 3 too many and I for one support Councillor Iqbal in his zero tolerance call, the thugs should pay for their crime, no chances...
bankhall, burnley says...
11:05am Fri 11 Apr 08
concerned resident wrote:In the paper ?are you real .The pocal rag does what it is told and doesn't report any Asian attacks because of any backlash.The opposte wa yes ; i once reported one and the police told me to just keep away from the area ;which was really good because it was the bus station ??have you ever noticed with the evening paper that when they report gang attacks it's always youths .How can you ask for witnesses to come forward unless you say whether they are white or black ??
At last we might be getting somewhere here it is not often that an asian himself will admit that the asian community in nelson are attacking white people. We read it in the paper time and time again here in nelson and yet nothing is done about it well now lets get something done. Maybe Nelsoner has something to say here because usually he wont have anything said about the asian community in this town. Well done councillor Iqbal for fetching this to light wether anything comes of it we will have to see.
steve, accrington says...
11:08am Fri 11 Apr 08
So these car jackings aren`t racist ? Would these guys car jack Asian pensioners? I think not.Who are you trying to kid? Thank you for speaking out Councillor Iqbal.
smooth, says...
12:27pm Fri 11 Apr 08
Well done to the two councillors for bringing this to the attention of the public. The fact they are asian is irrelevent - the law treats everyone the same and if caught they should be punished accordingly. I can expect the usual nitpickers and extremists to hijack this issue and blow it out of proportion. ALSO NOTE THAT LANCASHIRE POLICE HAVE A GOOD TRACK RECORD OF DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES AND HAVE RECIEVED NATIONAL COMMENDATIONS FOR DEALING WITH RACE AND HATE CRIMES. Whats more frustrating is that Pendle Council has invested significant funding into local groups like wheels within wheels, SCAF, and Bodies in Motion to work with these very young people - so what exactly have these organisations achieved with £000's and £000's of tax payers pounds? I think real problems lie here and this too needs to be seriously scrutinised. Example building bridges has received over £300,000 over the last four years to encourage "community cohesion" - what exactly has been achieved? Absolutely nothing, apart from creating more divisions and difference.
I say well done to the two councillors but now keep the pressure on all the agencies to take some action, its not just the job of the police. FUBAR
I say well done to the two councillors but now keep the pressure on all the agencies to take some action, its not just the job of the police. FUBAR
colne, on the internet at says...
12:31pm Fri 11 Apr 08
steve wrote:the car jackers obviously thought these were easy targets. they wouldn't target asian pensioners because they might know their parents or grandparents, and everyone knows an asian would rather die than give their car away! that doesn't mean they were racist.
So these car jackings aren`t racist ? Would these guys car jack Asian pensioners? I think not.Who are you trying to kid? Thank you for speaking out Councillor Iqbal.
smooth, says...
12:39pm Fri 11 Apr 08
colne wrote:Come on mr moron - not all asians know every other asian across Pendle. These were vulnerable people being targetted, i take it you know every other indigenious person across Pendle. Please try to make some coherent and sensible comments, and if you lack these atributes go to Marsden Heights Community College and get an education (secnd thought you might come back worse for wear!!!)
steve wrote: So these car jackings aren`t racist ? Would these guys car jack Asian pensioners? I think not.Who are you trying to kid? Thank you for speaking out Councillor Iqbal.the car jackers obviously thought these were easy targets. they wouldn't target asian pensioners because they might know their parents or grandparents, and everyone knows an asian would rather die than give their car away! that doesn't mean they were racist.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
2:05pm Fri 11 Apr 08
Firstly fao "concerned resident" I would say I do actually allow things to be said about the asian community, re-read my previous posts please, I have myself criticed the community, what I dont like is when we get a bunch of illiterate,narrowmin
ded uneducated dimwits posting comments & then the likes of Councillor Tony Greaves throwing his 2 penny worth trying to tell us good things are happening in pendle & that the future is bright.
Smooth is right, what exactly is Building Bridges & the rest of the "mickey mouse" govt/tax consuming organisations doing...there is no community cohesion in pendle, we just have to look at the content of the posts that are put up on the likes of LET to see that there isn't. I dont think there is any cohesion from both sides of the community & there is a lot of ignorance from both sides.
Well done councillor Iqbal for bringing the issues to the fore & meeting with the locals Police. Lets hope we can rid the streets of all the nasty pieces of work out there whether black/white/asian yellow who cares. As long as Nelson becomes what it used to be like in the early - mid 80s when it was thriving socially & economically in the town and it was a nice place to live.
ded uneducated dimwits posting comments & then the likes of Councillor Tony Greaves throwing his 2 penny worth trying to tell us good things are happening in pendle & that the future is bright.
Smooth is right, what exactly is Building Bridges & the rest of the "mickey mouse" govt/tax consuming organisations doing...there is no community cohesion in pendle, we just have to look at the content of the posts that are put up on the likes of LET to see that there isn't. I dont think there is any cohesion from both sides of the community & there is a lot of ignorance from both sides.
Well done councillor Iqbal for bringing the issues to the fore & meeting with the locals Police. Lets hope we can rid the streets of all the nasty pieces of work out there whether black/white/asian yellow who cares. As long as Nelson becomes what it used to be like in the early - mid 80s when it was thriving socially & economically in the town and it was a nice place to live.
smooth, says...
2:30pm Fri 11 Apr 08
Nelsoner as always your outlook is spot on and as always well put. Nelson has the potential and the opportunities, but we need to get rid of the moneygrabbing useless dimwits, self elected reprobates from all communities to make nelson achieve its future glories. The lack of aspirations are a malaise set in place by the current council administration and its incompetent officers COME MAY 1ST PENDLE HAS A REAL CHANCE TO CHANGE AND SHAPE ITS FUTURE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
fUBAR
fUBAR
imran, nelson says...
2:47pm Fri 11 Apr 08
can i say as a young British Asian born and brought up in Nelson, I really do admire the two Councillors for speaking up, most of us are law-abiding people in Nelson , what we need to do is unite behind Councilor Iqbal on this campaign, he seems to be the only senior politican talking some common sense, the police are doing a good job but they can't do it all on their own.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
3:08pm Fri 11 Apr 08
I must agree Imran, many of the youth both white & asian are decent enough folks & the police are doing a good job, look how they raided the drugs den in Berekely St based on intelligence received from the Pendle Rise Shopping Centre last friday from members of the public. They cannot do it alone. Come on Mr Greaves, show some real backbone & community spirit and get your hands dirty by assisting the other agencies in preventing this sort of thing happening around here or maybe you dont really care as you dont live in the areas affected?
All the political parties are the same in essence but I must commend the 2 Labour councillors for speaking up against their own community. Not sure Nadeem Ahmed would speak out against his own whitefield ward in the fear that he may not be re-elected on the 1 May! Come on the rest of you sitting on all the fancy titled council execs, speak up like real leaders not play follow the leader and only ask "how high?" when Lord Greaves says "jump!" No wonder Mahboob Ahmed left with Saj Karim & Co, probably couldn't take orders & tow the Greaves' line for the rest of his days.
Make a change now people, lets stand together and hold people accountable, the likes of Building Bridges etc...maybe we need to take a stand as residents in order to aspire to better things as it's quite clear the council is NOT going to do anything...just have to look at nelson centre...they messed it up then David Foster has the cheek to say in an open Q&A session at the council chambers that you can't buy a pair of socks in Nelson...well if it wasn't for you silly councillors who foolishly had "bright" ideas..much the same as the whitefield regeneration partnership...been the same slum for the last 10 years!
All the political parties are the same in essence but I must commend the 2 Labour councillors for speaking up against their own community. Not sure Nadeem Ahmed would speak out against his own whitefield ward in the fear that he may not be re-elected on the 1 May! Come on the rest of you sitting on all the fancy titled council execs, speak up like real leaders not play follow the leader and only ask "how high?" when Lord Greaves says "jump!" No wonder Mahboob Ahmed left with Saj Karim & Co, probably couldn't take orders & tow the Greaves' line for the rest of his days.
Make a change now people, lets stand together and hold people accountable, the likes of Building Bridges etc...maybe we need to take a stand as residents in order to aspire to better things as it's quite clear the council is NOT going to do anything...just have to look at nelson centre...they messed it up then David Foster has the cheek to say in an open Q&A session at the council chambers that you can't buy a pair of socks in Nelson...well if it wasn't for you silly councillors who foolishly had "bright" ideas..much the same as the whitefield regeneration partnership...been the same slum for the last 10 years!
richard, nelson says...
3:15pm Fri 11 Apr 08
At last a councillor talking sense but i dont think the police do a good job fair enough they have caught a lot of the asian drugdealers here
but they do nothing about racism on both behalfs.
but they do nothing about racism on both behalfs.
smooth, says...
3:39pm Fri 11 Apr 08
richard wrote:Richard, as someone who has travelled the seven seas and seen the good, the bad and the ugly side of human nature, the situation in Nelson has improved because of the Polices approach to tackling hate and race crimes - don't get me wrong there is still alot to do, but they can't do everything alone. The amount of investment into Building Bridges and their useless and no impact work can put a fair number of police officers on our streets - until we change this funding merry go round for the Council officers and their community friends and stop them investing our tax payers money in wasteless project like wheels within wheels, only then can we start to see even more improvements. Come May 1 is a real opportunity to get rid of these back stabbing and parasite councillors and elect people who care about our town and its people. FUBAR
At last a councillor talking sense but i dont think the police do a good job fair enough they have caught a lot of the asian drugdealers here but they do nothing about racism on both behalfs.
mebs, says...
4:02pm Fri 11 Apr 08
As a Council Tax payer who claims no rebate (& I am Asian) I would expect the Police to be doing their job effectively as some of the CT goes to them. But the likes of Pendle Council and other organisations need to be doing their job properly. We have had a lot of money thrown at Pendle Council by central Government such as Elevate, Sure Start, Building Schools For The Futre, Single Regenration Budget, Neighbourhood Renewal Fund, Community Cohesion funding and now we have the long awaited Working Neighbourhood Fund. Is there going to be any change in Pendle?? NO, NO & NO because we need to first change the political set-up at the Town Hall and make Officers within all organisations accountable and be able to justify their actions. How many times have you been fobbed off when you have contacted one of these organisations??
Paul Wilson, Manchester says...
4:16pm Fri 11 Apr 08
A sign of what is wrong with police force, mangaed for political correctness instead of facing the realities.
This is exactly what the Ousley Report, the Cantle report and the mahony report said - and political correctness still permeates the higher echelon clowns at Lancashire Police.
Why does it take a member of a community to state the facts that there may be a racist element to attacks on the propery and person of white community members, whilst the police deny this to be the case.
As Lord Ousley said in 2001 - the police are too dominated at the top level of mamnagement by the politically correct, which interferes with proper policing.
Seven years on , and the idiots are still there, afraid to speak the truth as known by everyone.
This is why they are a laughing stock in Blackburn.
This is exactly what the Ousley Report, the Cantle report and the mahony report said - and political correctness still permeates the higher echelon clowns at Lancashire Police.
Why does it take a member of a community to state the facts that there may be a racist element to attacks on the propery and person of white community members, whilst the police deny this to be the case.
As Lord Ousley said in 2001 - the police are too dominated at the top level of mamnagement by the politically correct, which interferes with proper policing.
Seven years on , and the idiots are still there, afraid to speak the truth as known by everyone.
This is why they are a laughing stock in Blackburn.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
4:40pm Fri 11 Apr 08
Here here Liberated, well said, it is people like you that we need on board, I for one would love to meet you & the likes of "smooth" on here for some real grass roots level discussions to get things moving around east lancs..I am asian, you say you are white, what is to stop us working together and getting things moving..they are too many people known as so-called community leaders who are in it to line their own pockets.
Totally agree with you about the extremism funding,burnley & pendle is now being tarnished with the label that it has extremists, I have lived here all my life, I dont see any, I really dont..why squander £ on these organisations, instead get it spent on more bobbies on the beat & traffic cops to pull over all the uninsured/dangerous drivers, those carrying knives,drugs etc...pay for more prisoners so Judge Beverley Lunt can stark locking them up as opposed to just giving them community service!!! that is what we need to get rid of these nasty pieces of scum who think they control our streets, this is a problem with both asian & white youths, not just 1 & not the other, lets face facts & lets take action!
Totally agree with you about the extremism funding,burnley & pendle is now being tarnished with the label that it has extremists, I have lived here all my life, I dont see any, I really dont..why squander £ on these organisations, instead get it spent on more bobbies on the beat & traffic cops to pull over all the uninsured/dangerous drivers, those carrying knives,drugs etc...pay for more prisoners so Judge Beverley Lunt can stark locking them up as opposed to just giving them community service!!! that is what we need to get rid of these nasty pieces of scum who think they control our streets, this is a problem with both asian & white youths, not just 1 & not the other, lets face facts & lets take action!
mo, nelson says...
7:28pm Sat 12 Apr 08
good on you cllr Iqbal,as an asian who has lived in nelson for over 38 years it makes my blood boil when these incidents occur(whites or asians being attacked because of their colour)asian /white black/pink they are just scums whoshould get a taste of their own medicine,they're so retarded this is the only way they understand,
asains commiting any offences shame me.
all the burnley bnp councillors were elected in posh areas(worstone,lower
house etc) where there are no slums no racist attacks,what problems have these areas got besides youths hanging around?
please don't tar everyone with the same brush,
FACTS;Saj left the Lib/dems because he wasn't going to get elected next time.selfish self centred turncoat, who used the asian community.Now he's gonna con the conservatives.
Maboob,the electers of whitefield saw what he was,a two faced con artist when they voted against him in droves.
asains commiting any offences shame me.
all the burnley bnp councillors were elected in posh areas(worstone,lower
house etc) where there are no slums no racist attacks,what problems have these areas got besides youths hanging around?
please don't tar everyone with the same brush,
FACTS;Saj left the Lib/dems because he wasn't going to get elected next time.selfish self centred turncoat, who used the asian community.Now he's gonna con the conservatives.
Maboob,the electers of whitefield saw what he was,a two faced con artist when they voted against him in droves.
m ehboob, says...
8:08pm Sat 12 Apr 08
Mahbbob would have made a good Tory candidate for Whitefield. A pity he did not put himself up. At least he would speak nonsense and not Greaves gibberish like Nadeem Ahmed does!!
Member of the Public, Nelson says...
9:01pm Sat 12 Apr 08
m ehboob wrote:who do you think you are critisizing Mr Nadeem Ahmed the only thing that you can say about him is that his the best Cllr that whitefield has had in a long time
Mahbbob would have made a good Tory candidate for Whitefield. A pity he did not put himself up. At least he would speak nonsense and not Greaves gibberish like Nadeem Ahmed does!!
Mehboob, says...
9:19pm Sat 12 Apr 08
Mr Nadeem Ahmed is a puppet of Greavesy. We don't want puppets in Pendle who only jump when Greavesy and Foster tell them. Mahboob Ahmed did the right thing joining the Tories. They are the ones setting the political agenda both locally and nationally. So on 1st May DON'T VOTE YOUR VOTE ON NADEEM AHMED BUT INSTEAD VOTE FOR THE TORY ALTERNATIVE.
Nelsoner, says...
11:08pm Sat 12 Apr 08
Smooth you are very articulate. I would love to join u here for initiating some very live interesting debates. I like your style.
Asian Lad Once Again, Nelson Every Street says...
11:30pm Sat 12 Apr 08
Oh for flips sake you muppets. Stop crying and arguings amongst each other for once and show some unity. We were on the topic of the councillors, not who married who and so on. Then again it is hard with the amount of muppets on our streets today! The councillors in theselves are a JOKE. Mahboob was a fat useless money eating hog. Mr Nadeem Ahmed is a nice chap face to face but I wonder what he has to offer other than nice printed waste of ink and paper liberal democraps rubbish. But on the bright side look at his opposition... MR TARIQ KASHMIRIII man that guy is huge I dont know how he fitted into a suit for his pictures haha. If you think im going over the top try looking at him outside his very sucessful business of selling plumbing on manchester road lol. As for waynekerrr jus take the Y out of your name and it says it all!
flash rob, says...
11:49pm Sat 12 Apr 08
Asian Lad u are very right. Only today Nadeem has posted another Greavesy tripe. It states that the ACE Centre is going to create NEW JOBS!! Did u read it?? What a load of nonsense. No. 1 Market Square was meant to create 300 new jobs we were told. Market Square is a ghost street. The only shop left is the barbers or Emery electronics. The fact is that the Lib Dems have killed off Nelson. Look at all the investment that has gone in to Colne and West Craven. On May 1 vote CONSERVATIVE FOR A CHANGE IN WHITEFIELD. lETS GET RID OF THESE USELESS ASIAN COUNCILLORS AND ELECT A WOMAN WHO WILL BRING SOME NEW BLOOD.
Resident, Nelson says...
10:50am Sun 13 Apr 08
I hope that you all have rea the leaflet from Cllr Nadeem Ahmed and for you who left your comments actually everything that has happend to the Borough of Pendle in the Last 4 Years in Thanks to the Lib Dems. What Labour didnt do in 40 years we did in 4 years and what has labour done for us the residents of Pendle. Hope you come to your senses and Vote the People who deserve the Vote the Lib Dems
And if you are silly enough to Vote For Fat T AKA TariQ Kashi then you have got no sense that guy is the hated guy in Pendle he gets a beating everywhere he goes
And if you are silly enough to Vote For Fat T AKA TariQ Kashi then you have got no sense that guy is the hated guy in Pendle he gets a beating everywhere he goes
smooth, says...
11:08am Sun 13 Apr 08
flash rob wrote:You are spot on robby on the social and economic decline of Nelson under the present administration but have to disagree on the conservative bit - you lot have as many useless conservative councillors who are out of touch with reality and the local populace and as for electing women, not a problem with that as long as those women who have the skills and the ability to do the job are given the opportunity. As for Nadeem, there is more debating ability in my left toe than him. He is a nice guy who lacks strategic foresight and suffers from lack of courage to chllenge on the right issues - some would say he epitomises everything that is wrong with the current leadership within the asian community in Nelson. FUBAR.COME 1ST MAY IS TIME TO REMOVE GREAVESY AND COMPANY FROM THE MEMORY OF NELSONIANS AND TAKE THE REINS FOR OUR OWN FUTURE AND STOP THE ROT BEING IMBEDDED FURTHER.
Asian Lad u are very right. Only today Nadeem has posted another Greavesy tripe. It states that the ACE Centre is going to create NEW JOBS!! Did u read it?? What a load of nonsense. No. 1 Market Square was meant to create 300 new jobs we were told. Market Square is a ghost street. The only shop left is the barbers or Emery electronics. The fact is that the Lib Dems have killed off Nelson. Look at all the investment that has gone in to Colne and West Craven. On May 1 vote CONSERVATIVE FOR A CHANGE IN WHITEFIELD. lETS GET RID OF THESE USELESS ASIAN COUNCILLORS AND ELECT A WOMAN WHO WILL BRING SOME NEW BLOOD.
smooth, says...
11:20am Sun 13 Apr 08
Resident wrote:Good to know we have a liberal at long last entering the deabte and as usual taking the level of debate to their low intellectual standings. Liberals have done more damage in Nelson in the last four years, then ever before. The decline in the standards of living, the increase in poverty and fact that Nelson is the number 1 for infant mortality and whitefield is in the top 5% nationally for unemployment, health inequalities and poor quality of life. So Resident get your facts correct and as for Nadeem, I repeat nice guy but no sense of right and direction - lacking the required backbone to make any difference. Am not a fan of the local politiicans, but I applaud the two for raising their concerns over such a serious issue. PENDLE CANNOT BE BETTER UNTIL THIS WEAK AND MONEY GRABBING ADMINISTRATION IS OUSTED. £12 MILLION OF NEIGHBOURGOOD RENEWAL MONEY HAS BEEN WASTED IN THE LAST 4 YEARS - ENOUGH TO TAKE EVERY PERSON OUT OF POVERTY IN NELSON AND COLNE. Smooth has left the building. FUBAR
Mr Iqbal is a CLown he comes out with all this rubbish well he needs to look closer to home with one of the main troubles Nelson has being thanks to his son so he needs to sort him self out before commenting on the Lib Dems and for Mr Ajad Mahmood he has never spoke in a council meeting. Its like his mouth is glued shut in a council meeting he needs to stop wetting himself in excitment over Gordan Prentice the guy who has closed our Burnley Hospital and needs to start listning to the Party who run the Council the Lib Dems and to change pendle for the better so on May 1st Vote the Lib Dems and in Whitefield Vote Mr Nadeem Ahmed
flash rob, says...
11:31am Sun 13 Apr 08
To Resident, It is not very often that we hear Nadeem Ahmed speak in the Council Chamber. Greaves, Whipp and Foster don't allow him to. As for the Lib Dems you had a Councillor Rasool remember him. He could not speak the language. Speak about Ali Zaman the missing Councillor. Speak about Rasib Khan who was put up as a candidate in Walverden ward, leaflets distributed, photo in the Nelson Leader as a local campaigner (he has never done any community work in his life) and I know his family extremely well. He then withdrew because he saw his future AS A LOSER. So get your facts straight. VOTE TORY 1ST MAY VOTE FOR A CHANGE. Remember what Saj Karim (your saviour to mankind i.e. Lib Dem saviour) stated when he defected. He said that the Lib Dems were a spent force and lacked direction. They DO NOT HAVE A ROLE IN BRITISH POLITICS.
rough, nelson says...
11:31am Sun 13 Apr 08
SMOOTH you get on my nerves at times nelson has finished nothing is going to repair it, and please stop adding fubar to everything it really grates.Have you no intelligance.
flash rob, says...
11:35am Sun 13 Apr 08
Rough and smooth what a combination
smooth, says...
11:52am Sun 13 Apr 08
rough wrote:Its good to know we have another liberal becoming honest about the situation - your bleating reminds me of the liberals and specifically David Fosters comments about Nelson. Nelson is not finished, just the present administration. Their lacklustre approach of thinking that a "lick of paint" will do the trick has been seen for the sham it is. I can understand why FUBAR grates - its meant to my intellectual inferior.
SMOOTH you get on my nerves at times nelson has finished nothing is going to repair it, and please stop adding fubar to everything it really grates.Have you no intelligance.
fubar
spiderman, says...
12:00pm Sun 13 Apr 08
I realise that the tone of Residents comments are very personal and bitter. HE/SHE IS OBVIOUSLY A LIB DEM CANDIDATE IN PENDLE. But what this highlights is that he/she obviously cannot debate constructively and have to resort to such low level comments.
mehboobh, says...
12:07pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Spiderman your insight is as strong as the web that you spin. Its strange how the comMon threads binding liberals is their lack of intellectual advancements on ideas - NADEEM PRETENDING TO BE RESIDENT JUST ABOUT TYPIFIES liberal APPROACH TO BEING A COUNCILLOR - "LACKING VISION". THIS TARIQ BLOKE MUST EITHER BE THAT GOOD AND BETTER THAN NADEEM OR HE HAS EATEN NADEEMS BREAKFAST THIS MORNING - ETHER WAY BIG TARIQ IS ON HIS WAY TO NELSON TOWN HALL COME 1ST MAY ME THINKS.
Tony Greaves, Pendle says...
4:24pm Sun 13 Apr 08
How sad it is to see all these people who refuse to tell us who they are, hiding behind their silly names, and whose idea of sensible political discussion is to call other people silly names and throw around personal abuse.
It's an amazing thing that on Pendle Council both the Tories and Labour rarely have anything positive to say (and often say nothing at all, just going along with the Liberal proposals about 98% of the time).
Then they get their ignorant and abusive friends to come on to this website and rant and rave in this way.
It is, as I say, very sad, and devalues local debate and local democracy.
(And what I have to do with Cllr Iqbal's alarmist press release I really am not sure!)
Tony Greaves
It's an amazing thing that on Pendle Council both the Tories and Labour rarely have anything positive to say (and often say nothing at all, just going along with the Liberal proposals about 98% of the time).
Then they get their ignorant and abusive friends to come on to this website and rant and rave in this way.
It is, as I say, very sad, and devalues local debate and local democracy.
(And what I have to do with Cllr Iqbal's alarmist press release I really am not sure!)
Tony Greaves
Member of the Public, Nelson says...
4:38pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Lord Greaves is right he is the only person talking sense here and he really knows what his on about anf what he says i agree that the Labour Party have nothing better do do except get there friends to come on here and give other peoples names to leave comments that everyone know are not true.
And Mr Iqbal you just about won in the elections against a women which shows that even Asian Women are better known then you Mr Iqbal
And the majority of the youth are good and lawful citizens but there is a minority who are not but what can you say no one is perfect
NOT EVEN YOU MR IQBAL AND MR MAHMOOD!
And Mr Iqbal you just about won in the elections against a women which shows that even Asian Women are better known then you Mr Iqbal
And the majority of the youth are good and lawful citizens but there is a minority who are not but what can you say no one is perfect
NOT EVEN YOU MR IQBAL AND MR MAHMOOD!
smooth, says...
6:09pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Member of the Public wrote:These are the epitomy of liberal supporters - can't spell and can't even string two grammaticaly correct sentences together. Am surprised at your rant - one of yours has been arrested and sentenced in Burnley for vote rigging and your recently nominated candidate by what we read is more than likey to be investigated for similar offences. Your right Greaves is correct - he sees the serious issues being raised by this article as "alarmist" - typical approach and behaviour by someone who does'nt care about some of the elderly and vulnerable people of Pendle. Am sure come 1st May the people of pendle will make the right decision. FUBAR
Lord Greaves is right he is the only person talking sense here and he really knows what his on about anf what he says i agree that the Labour Party have nothing better do do except get there friends to come on here and give other peoples names to leave comments that everyone know are not true. And Mr Iqbal you just about won in the elections against a women which shows that even Asian Women are better known then you Mr Iqbal And the majority of the youth are good and lawful citizens but there is a minority who are not but what can you say no one is perfect NOT EVEN YOU MR IQBAL AND MR MAHMOOD!
batman, says...
6:13pm Sun 13 Apr 08
What does Member of the Public know?? Did they not pull Rasib Khan out of Walverden because EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS A LOSER!! There were even rumours flying around that the leader of the council (Alan Davies) would not be defending Boulsworth ward AND LD were trying to find him a safe seat because our man Mike Calvert was standing. Mike took the County seat from him and only narrowly lost to Cllr Davies last time. IF ANYTHING IT IS THE LIB DEMS THAT ARE ON THE RUN IN THIS ELECTION. My advice to the public of Pendle is to vote the BLUE team this May even Tony's baby Saj Karim states this is a wise choice.
robin, says...
7:56pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Batman, Spiderman I am now joining u folks. Does anyone know smooth?? when did he start blogging?? and what happened to Nelsoner?? u know WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER FORGET COLOUR, CREED, RELIGION, POLITICAL AFFILIATION. I think we all have something in common and that is to remove Greaves from Office on 1st May!!
mehboobh, says...
8:24pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Tony Greaves wrote:What a disgrace. As a former liberal these are the very reasons myself and Saj Karim left - your deval uing of the people of pendle. Be honest, the only people who have benefited from Pendles plight has been BOUNDARY MILLS AND BARNFIELD. And they both owe many sterling thanks to LORD GREAVES AND ALLAN DAVIES. I already notice poor Nadeem is on his own canvassing in the rain (poor penfold lamenting without his dangermouse, Saj Karim). I beleive that true democracy maybe on its way to Pendle on 1st May. Now that you know who I am Greaves what do you propose to do? I am not hiding behind anything Greaves - as they say in pendle - "bring it on".
How sad it is to see all these people who refuse to tell us who they are, hiding behind their silly names, and whose idea of sensible political discussion is to call other people silly names and throw around personal abuse. It's an amazing thing that on Pendle Council both the Tories and Labour rarely have anything positive to say (and often say nothing at all, just going along with the Liberal proposals about 98% of the time). Then they get their ignorant and abusive friends to come on to this website and rant and rave in this way. It is, as I say, very sad, and devalues local debate and local democracy. (And what I have to do with Cllr Iqbal's alarmist press release I really am not sure!) Tony Greaves
fat controller, says...
8:34pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Hi folks The Fat Controller from Thomas The Tank Engine now speaking. mehboobh r u fat mahboob ahmed. He was a former liberal 4 little pakistan. He lost the election because Greaves did not support him in his campaign. I am retiring very soon and we need a replacement for Fat Controller. You would fit the job description perfectly.
mehboobh, says...
8:48pm Sun 13 Apr 08
fat controller wrote:Hi FC - still on the job, no break fo rth wicked. Carry on with the extra shifts fat controller, mrs fat controller is very happy and snug with mebs here. Please don't retire I need to be kept in the best finery's and lets be honest riding the train was never your department, sitting on the sidelines was your game, excuse me have to go engine and few bolts need looking at and fine tuning. All the best. By the way Mrs FC suggests pick some digestives from the local spar on the way, thats a good liberal dear.
Hi folks The Fat Controller from Thomas The Tank Engine now speaking. mehboobh r u fat mahboob ahmed. He was a former liberal 4 little pakistan. He lost the election because Greaves did not support him in his campaign. I am retiring very soon and we need a replacement for Fat Controller. You would fit the job description perfectly.
fat controller, says...
9:01pm Sun 13 Apr 08
mehboobh, i'll get spiderman and robin to help me
smooth, says...
9:16pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Fat Controller you are beginning to sound like a conservative - hardly surprising the funding your group has fattened upon in the last few years - (£12 million over four years of NRF) if you had shared the alleged spoils with Saj and Mebs maybe they would'nt be riding the other gravy train on their own.
Tony Greaves, Pendle says...
10:24pm Sun 13 Apr 08
I have nothing more to add to this collection of postings by illiterate and ignorant people (of whom more and more turn out to be candidates, councillors and ex-councillors). At least detached observers of all this disgraceful stuff will get an idea of what the local Labour and Tory Parties are actually like.
One point. The person posting as "Nadeem Ahmed" in this thread is not Councillor Nadeem Ahmed. What a shocking state of affairs it all is when people can be impersonated like this. Is this really the future of public debate?
Tony Greaves
One point. The person posting as "Nadeem Ahmed" in this thread is not Councillor Nadeem Ahmed. What a shocking state of affairs it all is when people can be impersonated like this. Is this really the future of public debate?
Tony Greaves
catwoman, says...
10:40pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Tony Greaves wrote:Tony what do you know about the future of public debate?? It is because of people like YOU that we find ourselves in a REAL BIG MESS!! When have you allowed public debate. Even my friend Mahboob told me this and he was IN YOUR EXECUTIVE. He told me the following (don't know if true):-
I have nothing more to add to this collection of postings by illiterate and ignorant people (of whom more and more turn out to be candidates, councillors and ex-councillors). At least detached observers of all this disgraceful stuff will get an idea of what the local Labour and Tory Parties are actually like. One point. The person posting as "Nadeem Ahmed" in this thread is not Councillor Nadeem Ahmed. What a shocking state of affairs it all is when people can be impersonated like this. Is this really the future of public debate? Tony Greaves
YOU ARE ELECTED FOR WATERSIDE BUT SIT ON A GROUP CALLED WHITEFIELD REGENERATION PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO KEEP HIM OUT.
YOU WOULD NOT ALLOW HIM TO MAKE EXECUTIVE DECISIONS WHEN HE WAS PORTFOLIO HOLDER FOR PARKS & CEMETRIES.
ALLAN DAVIES IS THE FACE OF YOUR PARTY BUT YOU ARE THE BACKBONE AND YOU CLLR DAVIES ONLY SPEAKS YOUR WORDS. So really you are a dictator in the words of many. My advice is that we need to liberate the Town Hall from all dictators on the 1st of May SO VOTE CONSERVATIVE THE WINNING FORMULA
Asian Lad Once Again, Nelson - Every Street says...
10:53pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Once again im enjoying alot of these comments here! All this fat thin smooth rough spiderman robin batman mumbo jumbo is getting childish. Mehboob is just a fat useless plonker just like MP TARIQ KASHMIR haha. Oh my word imagine him winning on may 1st. Nelson will just become a worse dump. Mind you nowadays things are going well amongst the communities. NOT WITH THE HELP OF COUNCILLORS THOUGH! They are helping to actually mess things up and cause divisions. So what is the resolution? Rather than keep it all smiles when they come knocking on your door or maybe take a picture with you talking to them, why not actually come up with some of these views to their faces? Would be a priceless look on most of theirs lol. It would save you alot of time hiding behind a screen and typing these points, mind you though you might have your face broken whilst speaking your mind!
mehboobh, says...
10:59pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Tony Greaves wrote:What a disgrace that you did not speak and condone the behaviour of vote rigging in Burnley by your liberal colleagues - were where your morals and ethics then Lord Greaves. As for calling your betters ignorant and illiterate that is you showing your true intellectual standing. The low illiteracy rate of young asian people is down to your funding incompetent community groups to provide support to them - have you seen the groups providing support to young asian people in Brierfield - it was funded by your council officers Speak to Brian Astin aka Penfold - to teach them to say "hello" to white people as they never spoke to them - what a ridiculous state of affairs. As for people impersonating, do you not do a show as cat weasel on saturdays at the Muni!!!! Nadeem is still lamenting about the loss of Saj Karim and currently half of his family is more than likely to vote Conservatives - come May 1st Pendle will be Blue.
I have nothing more to add to this collection of postings by illiterate and ignorant people (of whom more and more turn out to be candidates, councillors and ex-councillors). At least detached observers of all this disgraceful stuff will get an idea of what the local Labour and Tory Parties are actually like. One point. The person posting as "Nadeem Ahmed" in this thread is not Councillor Nadeem Ahmed. What a shocking state of affairs it all is when people can be impersonated like this. Is this really the future of public debate? Tony Greaves
superman, says...
11:07pm Sun 13 Apr 08
VOTE CONSERVATIVE ON MAY 1 WE ARE THE REAL ALTERNATIVE TO THE LIB DEM ADMINISTRATION. VOTE TACTICALLY TO KEEP THE LIB DEMS OUT. IF YOU THINK LABOUR ARE GOING TO WIN IN YOUR AREA THEN VOTE THEM, IF TORY THEN VOTE TORY. WE NEED A COUNCIL THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT USING A BULLY BOY APPROACH.
smooth, says...
11:09pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Asian Lad Once Again wrote:Asian Lad I know geography is not your strong point but this is not Zimbabwe (or Pakistan) so you have this thing called freedom of speech and expression and you don't get beaten up for expressing your views - I know its a difficult concept to understand or conceptualise but happy to provide free on-line training on basics of democracy and the rights of citizenship - unlike what you are likely to get from your community groups (PPWA, ITHAAD, Bodies in Motion and Cybercafe) its all free. By the way as I understand it MP's rule your part of the world and you are very subservient to them - see its easy to hide your cowardice behind a screen. You have just been FUBAR'D.
Once again im enjoying alot of these comments here! All this fat thin smooth rough spiderman robin batman mumbo jumbo is getting childish. Mehboob is just a fat useless plonker just like MP TARIQ KASHMIR haha. Oh my word imagine him winning on may 1st. Nelson will just become a worse dump. Mind you nowadays things are going well amongst the communities. NOT WITH THE HELP OF COUNCILLORS THOUGH! They are helping to actually mess things up and cause divisions. So what is the resolution? Rather than keep it all smiles when they come knocking on your door or maybe take a picture with you talking to them, why not actually come up with some of these views to their faces? Would be a priceless look on most of theirs lol. It would save you alot of time hiding behind a screen and typing these points, mind you though you might have your face broken whilst speaking your mind!
Asian Lad, Nelson says...
11:15pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Haha smooth u pillock. You really are some kind of geek, get a life man! You trying to be a sarcastic smartass aint really getting you anywhere. Anyway back to the point ok i went over the top but what i meant in my sentence was if a resident was to tell a councillor when they knock on your door and lick your **** so you vote them...that they are not happy with these asians or polish or russian or jamaican (i dont care!) How the hell would this councillor feel?
mirpuri, says...
11:18pm Sun 13 Apr 08
please, please Tariq is a kashmiri not an mp. As for comparing him to Mahboob. Well Tariq has a number of businesses and properties. So there is no comparison whatsoever.
smooth, says...
11:24pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Asian Lad wrote:Do you know the square root of 9876? The answer to this and all other questions that you need answering in your life will also provide the "feeling of a local councillor" although this will require indepth understandig of advanced algebra - again free lessons are provided by self, although you have to sit a test to qualify for the free one years support. .
Haha smooth u pillock. You really are some kind of geek, get a life man! You trying to be a sarcastic smartass aint really getting you anywhere. Anyway back to the point ok i went over the top but what i meant in my sentence was if a resident was to tell a councillor when they knock on your door and lick your **** so you vote them...that they are not happy with these asians or polish or russian or jamaican (i dont care!) How the hell would this councillor feel?
Asian Lad, Nelson says...
11:32pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Oh my word you really are some weird person! Why you changing the topic for pillok. I didnt say im some clever person did I, Stop making stuff up you weak rat.
weakrat, says...
11:45pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Just thought I point out that rats are one of natures great survivors ( eh Lord Greaves. Asian Lad you seem to have an issue with "pilloKs" - is this some kind of new liberal policy for vote rigging????. Its also kind of mirpuri to point out this tariq blokes ethnicity background - thank you it helps in understanding who to vote for though.
pak lad, says...
12:02am Mon 14 Apr 08
Look all, sod the elections and get a life. All politicians are a waste of time. Just look in the mirror -- u will see Pendle Council laughing at all of you. WAKE UP, GET A JOB, STOP BLOGGING AND IF U LOT REALLY DESPITE GREAVES WHY DO U LOT NOT GO IN HIS WARD AND CAMPAIGN??
fact not fiction, barlick says...
5:55am Mon 14 Apr 08
flash rob wrote:can you tell us all what investment has gone into west craven please.earby is a ghost town and the shops in barlick have had small grants out of the extra council tax which we pay for a town council.you will find nelson has all the grants.millions on housing because no one will pay to do their houses up you just wait for it to drop to bits then get a grant.no grants in west craven for over 20 years.come on FLASH tell us what we have had.stop talking rubbish and give me some facts.or is it just your usuall rubbish you talk until your giro comes.facts big boy FACTS PLEASE.we dont have new buildings like you.we dont have wavelengths.we have a bus stop not a bus station.you are getting a new train station.christ we dont even have trains.yes west craven gets everything.YOU PLONKER.your real name is not rodney is it
Asian Lad u are very right. Only today Nadeem has posted another Greavesy tripe. It states that the ACE Centre is going to create NEW JOBS!! Did u read it?? What a load of nonsense. No. 1 Market Square was meant to create 300 new jobs we were told. Market Square is a ghost street. The only shop left is the barbers or Emery electronics. The fact is that the Lib Dems have killed off Nelson. Look at all the investment that has gone in to Colne and West Craven. On May 1 vote CONSERVATIVE FOR A CHANGE IN WHITEFIELD. lETS GET RID OF THESE USELESS ASIAN COUNCILLORS AND ELECT A WOMAN WHO WILL BRING SOME NEW BLOOD.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
9:05am Mon 14 Apr 08
Glad to see Greaves has finally come out of the woodwork & pathetically attempted to defend his party & candidates.
As for you people saying get a job,a life & stop blogging, perhaps we have got all of that & are not blogging but simply putting our views across...we do after all live in a democracy.
Also Nelson Lad - I have actually spoken to the faces of both the Lib Dems & the Labour party activists..not bothered if they liked what I said or not..it was my opinion & I was entitled to it...we are not scared of speaking the truth & indeed we have done in public forums in the past..we are not in it for the £, we are not in it for the power or status as we are not that insecure or vain...we are doing it for pendle.
I have read the recent literature from the Lib Dem Focus leaflets...Afzal Anwar has lived in nelson all his life, no he has NOT, he came here in 1997...as for Rasib well what can I say, he is supposed to be a barrister, he needs to learn how to pronounce words of the English language before he attempts his next election campaign..maybe Greaves can give him an english lesson or two considering that he thinks we are all illiterate & uneducated. You BAFFOON I am not uneducated, unlike your previous 2 colleagues, Saj Karim may have been a solicitor but he got a 3rd class degree from Guildhall polytechnic...as for Mehboob Ahmed, well I dont even think he had a GCSE to his name..
Would love to meet, batman, robin, rough, smooth & anyone else who would like a constructive discussion as to how to improve the local area..Nelson is not a "spent" town it can be improved with determination & real hard work..it is the lib dems who are a "spent" force according to their former MEP! Just look at how Mehboob Ahmed was voted out by the whitefielders in their masses...hopefully that nice pleasant but lacking conviction of a young lad Nadeem will get voted out next.It's so bad with him that he not only gets dictated to by Greaves but also the elderley pakistani community of whitefield who are related to him or know him from somewhere along the line & are in it to eat the free food at the Lib Dem Committee room & have a social life for a few months...let's not be fooled by how local elections are fought anymore & vote tactically.As someone has said in 1 of the previous posts, vote for Cons if you think they are going to win in your ward or Lab if you think they are going to win..but do NOT vote the dictater's party.
As for you people saying get a job,a life & stop blogging, perhaps we have got all of that & are not blogging but simply putting our views across...we do after all live in a democracy.
Also Nelson Lad - I have actually spoken to the faces of both the Lib Dems & the Labour party activists..not bothered if they liked what I said or not..it was my opinion & I was entitled to it...we are not scared of speaking the truth & indeed we have done in public forums in the past..we are not in it for the £, we are not in it for the power or status as we are not that insecure or vain...we are doing it for pendle.
I have read the recent literature from the Lib Dem Focus leaflets...Afzal Anwar has lived in nelson all his life, no he has NOT, he came here in 1997...as for Rasib well what can I say, he is supposed to be a barrister, he needs to learn how to pronounce words of the English language before he attempts his next election campaign..maybe Greaves can give him an english lesson or two considering that he thinks we are all illiterate & uneducated. You BAFFOON I am not uneducated, unlike your previous 2 colleagues, Saj Karim may have been a solicitor but he got a 3rd class degree from Guildhall polytechnic...as for Mehboob Ahmed, well I dont even think he had a GCSE to his name..
Would love to meet, batman, robin, rough, smooth & anyone else who would like a constructive discussion as to how to improve the local area..Nelson is not a "spent" town it can be improved with determination & real hard work..it is the lib dems who are a "spent" force according to their former MEP! Just look at how Mehboob Ahmed was voted out by the whitefielders in their masses...hopefully that nice pleasant but lacking conviction of a young lad Nadeem will get voted out next.It's so bad with him that he not only gets dictated to by Greaves but also the elderley pakistani community of whitefield who are related to him or know him from somewhere along the line & are in it to eat the free food at the Lib Dem Committee room & have a social life for a few months...let's not be fooled by how local elections are fought anymore & vote tactically.As someone has said in 1 of the previous posts, vote for Cons if you think they are going to win in your ward or Lab if you think they are going to win..but do NOT vote the dictater's party.
greavereigns, says...
10:52am Mon 14 Apr 08
VOTE CONSERVATIVE ON MAY 1ST AND IMPROVE YOUR OWN AND YOUR CHILDRENS LIFE CHANCES. THE LIBERALS ARE A SPENT FORCE IN PENDLE AND LACK ANYTHING RESEMBLING A PLAN - STRANGE THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING NATIONALLY - A PARTY OF DISGRACE AND SELF-DEGRADATION. KICK OUT DAVIES AND FOSTER AND REPLACE THEM WITH TORIES WHO WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETTER THE QUALITY OF LIFE YOU HAVE IN PENDLE. GOOD LUCK AND AS NELSONER SAYS "vote for Cons if you think they are going to win in your ward or Lab if you think they are going to win..but do NOT vote the dictater's party"
smooth, says...
11:21am Mon 14 Apr 08
Its good to see the good people of Pendle finally waking upto the truth - Liberals have run out of excuses and even their shameless scaremongering is not working. Poor Nadeem in Whitefield is receiving counselling and being prepared for a big loss - see even the Whitefield people are beginning to smell the coffee (or the rat that is Lord Greaves).
Nelsoner and other change minded coleagues time for change is near and as pendled saviours we have to keep the people informed about the true state of affairs. Nelson can be improved by not only removing the administration but its cronies as well, including the self-elected and self-satisfying asian comunity leaders. The likes of PPWA and Building Bridges and SCAF, Bodies in Motion and wheels within wheels, are peddlars of difference and dividers of communities across Pendle. Their funding needs to be scrutinised and their governance needs to be carefully monitored. They are run by family members for their own monetary gains, sonsored by Lord Greaves and his incompetent officers - Mr Astin has wasted by giving £12 million over four years to these worthless organisations to keep their "traditonal asian friends" happy and of course get their votes at election time. If you look at the areas these organisations work in they are worse before they started their work, but level of funding has increased into their pockets. Am sure I will get some comments around being a racist, strange I am third generation muslim myself and funny want the same level of service and access to everything as everybody else in Pendle. These organisations are a parasite on the development of asian young people and others. Come May 1st lets make a wholesale change.
Nelsoner and other change minded coleagues time for change is near and as pendled saviours we have to keep the people informed about the true state of affairs. Nelson can be improved by not only removing the administration but its cronies as well, including the self-elected and self-satisfying asian comunity leaders. The likes of PPWA and Building Bridges and SCAF, Bodies in Motion and wheels within wheels, are peddlars of difference and dividers of communities across Pendle. Their funding needs to be scrutinised and their governance needs to be carefully monitored. They are run by family members for their own monetary gains, sonsored by Lord Greaves and his incompetent officers - Mr Astin has wasted by giving £12 million over four years to these worthless organisations to keep their "traditonal asian friends" happy and of course get their votes at election time. If you look at the areas these organisations work in they are worse before they started their work, but level of funding has increased into their pockets. Am sure I will get some comments around being a racist, strange I am third generation muslim myself and funny want the same level of service and access to everything as everybody else in Pendle. These organisations are a parasite on the development of asian young people and others. Come May 1st lets make a wholesale change.
Asian Lad, Nelson says...
1:05pm Mon 14 Apr 08
Yeah Nelsoner some good facts there, as for pak lad why dont you p155 off we are here free to leave our comments and views that is why this part of the website was created! You cant take defeat so punks like you come out wid lame come backs. Oh well... If only labour had put up some serious competition this year they would have been my vote then again mr nadeem is my only option! Who the hell are the conservatives meant to be! Jokes who are all talk no action at all lol At least labour and liberal did some of the shoddy work they promised.
knowthiswell, says...
4:58pm Mon 14 Apr 08
ASIAN LAD YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR PENFOLD NADEEM - THE GUY IS STILL MISSING DANGERMOUSE ( SAJ KARIM). TAKE A PUNT ON BIG T, YOU KNOW YOU WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO CATCH HIM IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM. I ALSO HEAR ALLEGEDLY THAT LORD "THE RAT" GREAVES MIGHT BE CHARGED WITH "CRIMES AGAINST PENDLE" - AS USUAL YOU EXPECT RATY TO GET AWAY WITH IT. VOTE TARIQ AND BURGERS AND CHIPS FOR EVERYONE EVERY FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Asian Lad, Nelson says...
5:34pm Mon 14 Apr 08
Haha u dude, Saj Karims departure is just a prime example of the unity and loyalty of the councillors. I would vote for tariq if I planned on moving out of the town. As I am hopefully staying here I will vote for Mr Nadeem but if anything goes wrong hes going down!
Resident, Nelson says...
11:16am Tue 15 Apr 08
I am in favour of all the comments that people are leaving about the Political Parties but can you hold on a second Asjad did not wipe the Floor with Mahboob because if you recall he only won by about 150 Votes. There is a reason to this that the Labour Party send out a leaflet on the Eve of the Election and told lies that changed the voters minds and this is where they lost our. The Leaflet stated that the Lib Dems were lieing about the Grant Work on Lomeshaye Road and Westmoland Street but if you now go and look the blocks of houses Labour said the Lib Dems wouldnt do have been done.
I hope this clears up the point of what really happend in whitefield that Evening before Polling opened in 2006
I hope this clears up the point of what really happend in whitefield that Evening before Polling opened in 2006
king, burnley says...
11:17am Tue 15 Apr 08
Why have Labour candidates not to stated their respective party names on the ballot papers? R they ashamed that they are affiliated to party that is responsible for killing thousands of innocent women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan!
batman, says...
1:45pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Resident, Nelson speak the truth. We all know what happened. Your useless waste of time Mahboob Ahmed did not speak on behalf of the residents on a number of occasions AND HE PAID THE PRICE FOR IT. A good job he turned blue. The same will happen to penflod Nadeem because he has put party before the public of Whitefield. ALTERNATIVE VOTE TORY
richard, nelson says...
1:56pm Tue 15 Apr 08
at the end of the day Mr Iqbal is only saying this because he has been forced to also because he maybe thinks he will get the white persons vote.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
2:16pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Come on RESIDENT,NELSON stop being so naive,do you really think Asjad won Mahboob just because of the election leaflet distributed by Labour on the eve of the election...I've never heard anything so diabolical!
150 people do NOT change their minds like that,especially not in Whitefield!!
Also lets look at actual figures in order to determine whether Asjad wiped the floor with Mehboob or not...Mehboob had a lead of around 350 votes in his previous successful election..he then lost to Asjad 4 years later by 150 votes..that means that Asjad turned the voting around by a total of around 500 votes or thereabouts..you have to remember he ensured that Mehboob lost his previous lead of 350, brought him to zero and then won by 150..simple maths mate...
As for Lomeshaye Rd,what has actually happened? Baldwins have done shoddy work throughout, the doors are cracking as you are well aware as you probably sit on the Regeneration Partnership Committee for that area, no? The roofs of the properties were leaking for a long duration of time & many houses were left without hot water...Baldwins & the Council in on it together lining their pockets perhaps whilst not concerned about the residents..
150 people do NOT change their minds like that,especially not in Whitefield!!
Also lets look at actual figures in order to determine whether Asjad wiped the floor with Mehboob or not...Mehboob had a lead of around 350 votes in his previous successful election..he then lost to Asjad 4 years later by 150 votes..that means that Asjad turned the voting around by a total of around 500 votes or thereabouts..you have to remember he ensured that Mehboob lost his previous lead of 350, brought him to zero and then won by 150..simple maths mate...
As for Lomeshaye Rd,what has actually happened? Baldwins have done shoddy work throughout, the doors are cracking as you are well aware as you probably sit on the Regeneration Partnership Committee for that area, no? The roofs of the properties were leaking for a long duration of time & many houses were left without hot water...Baldwins & the Council in on it together lining their pockets perhaps whilst not concerned about the residents..
dorothy lord, Colne says...
3:17pm Tue 15 Apr 08
What a sad state of affairs this is,when certain people have nothing better to do than put out utter rubbish day after day and we all know it's only because of an election looming.
Mahboob Ahmed I am dissapointed,You always struck me as being fairly intelligent,do you realise what you sound like on this forum ,nothing less than a gibbering idiot with all this silly wibble.
Give up before you make your self look even sillier.
Mahboob Ahmed I am dissapointed,You always struck me as being fairly intelligent,do you realise what you sound like on this forum ,nothing less than a gibbering idiot with all this silly wibble.
Give up before you make your self look even sillier.
richard, nelson says...
3:55pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Well said Dorothy well said.
know it all, says...
6:30pm Tue 15 Apr 08
As the Lord puts it lets get the facts correct. Cllr Mahmood lost to Cllr N Ahmed by 359 votes so when he challenged sitting Cllr Mahboob Ahmed, technically Mahboob had a big fat lead of 359. It's a bit like cricket you know coming back for second innings!! Cllr A Mahmood won the innnings with a lead of 146 votes SO TECHNICALLY SPEAKING THERE WAS A SWING OF 492 VOTES FROM THE LIBERAL PARTY TO THE LABOUR PARTY. However, I know Mahboob very well and I can tell you folks that the grass is definitely greener on the other (Tory) side. For one he gets to keep his close affiliation with saviour Saj Karim. He is also in close proximity to the prospective new MP for Pendle (Andrew Stephenson) and he has been to the House Of Commons several times. So come on folks he has only put himself No. 1!! wouldn't you??
smooth, says...
8:23pm Tue 15 Apr 08
dorothy lord wrote:What a statement from one of our beloved mad politicans - I know its hard for you too understand but its called freedom of speech, something that eludes this dictatorial administration. As for thinking someone like Mahboob had intelligence makes me worry about your SANITY. Can you also define the word "wibble" for us mere mortals, unless Lord Greaves is right in thinking this means "value for money". I notice you sit on the scrutiny committee - have you ever actually undertaken your role in its entirety or do you just go for the free meals - do us a favour Dorothy and scrutinise the NRF mismanagement and the PVE debacle - confused by the acronyms try speaking to Mr Penfold (known as Brian Astin to You). So give this twaddle a rest and lets hope to Jehovah Pendle can finally get the change it needs. YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SMOOTHED
What a sad state of affairs this is,when certain people have nothing better to do than put out utter rubbish day after day and we all know it\'s only because of an election looming. Mahboob Ahmed I am dissapointed,You always struck me as being fairly intelligent,do you realise what you sound like on this forum ,nothing less than a gibbering idiot with all this silly wibble. Give up before you make your self look even sillier.
mehboobh, says...
8:44pm Tue 15 Apr 08
dorothy lord wrote:Thank you for thinking I had some intelligence, its must have been during the time we shared all the free deserts during our liberal hush hush meetings - am still recovering from those excesses. As for this forum being rubbish, am sure you are an expert on this since my leaving the liberals have gone totally down the gutter with their policies and what I hear the deserts don't taste too good either - well rubbish gets rubbish. Nelsoner you make some good points and a I take my hat off to asjad he beat me fair and square - BUT DON'T WORRY CONSERVATIVES ARE BACK AND WITH ME AND SAJ LEADING THE BLUES, WE WILL LEAD PENDLE TO THE PROMISED LAND. SORRY
What a sad state of affairs this is,when certain people have nothing better to do than put out utter rubbish day after day and we all know it's only because of an election looming. Mahboob Ahmed I am dissapointed,You always struck me as being fairly intelligent,do you realise what you sound like on this forum ,nothing less than a gibbering idiot with all this silly wibble. Give up before you make your self look even sillier.
DOROTHY YOU ARE GOING TO EAT THOSE RUBBISH DESERTS ON YOUR OWN FROM NOW ONAU REVOIR ( SEE I CAN EVEN SPEAK FRENCH)
robin, says...
9:46pm Tue 15 Apr 08
mehboobh, you are really getting on my nerves. Let the public dedide who they gonna support on the 1st of May. As for you wanting to join the Tories you only did this because the EURO MEP and FATHER CHRISTMAS DID SO. I believe he is called Mr. Zaid (I think). I do not know this guy but people tell me he is a real turncoat. He was a Labour member, then openly supported Rasjid Skinner (remember him??) in the parliamentary elections in 2001. Joined the Liberals soon after and now has joined the Conservatives. 007 has told me that his family members recently voted for that barrister Anwar to be the prospective parliamentary candidate for the Liberals but only a week earlier were tucking themselves into a Conservative party meal in Brierfield. SO MY ADVICE IS DO NOT TRUST THESE FOLKS. THEY ARE LIKE CHAMELEONS CHANGING COLOUR FASTER THAN I CHANGE UNDERPANTS!! Use your vote wisely and make sure it is heard on 1 May.
Jack, says...
10:30pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Come on guys keep this real and stop pretending to be people that you are not. It makes an interesting read does most of this. I have been enlightened with some good knowledge but my kind request is to keep it genuine and real.
smooth, says...
10:32pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Man these weirdo's are coming out by the bucket load. Come on Nelsoner try to inject some sense into these whole proceedings.
Is dorothy lord in charge of anything or she just seeing out retirement and what with this desSerts - I though Lord Greaves said we are all healthy and size 0 like him. GOOD LUCK TO THE BLUES - LOOKING AT THE ALLEGED ALCOHOL FUELED LIBERAL CANDIDATE IN WALVERDEN WE MIGHT AS WELL SAY DEMOCRACY IS DEAD. THIS GUY LOOK SSO OUT OF IT HE WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE SLUMBERING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER - MAYBE NOW THAT MEHBOOB HAS LEFT THE LIBERALS, IF THIS GUY WINS IN WALVERDEN AND CAN SHARE THOSE DESSERTS WITH DOROTHY AND COMPANY - SUGAR AM NOW GONNA HAVE NIGHTMARES. FUBAR
Is dorothy lord in charge of anything or she just seeing out retirement and what with this desSerts - I though Lord Greaves said we are all healthy and size 0 like him. GOOD LUCK TO THE BLUES - LOOKING AT THE ALLEGED ALCOHOL FUELED LIBERAL CANDIDATE IN WALVERDEN WE MIGHT AS WELL SAY DEMOCRACY IS DEAD. THIS GUY LOOK SSO OUT OF IT HE WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE SLUMBERING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER - MAYBE NOW THAT MEHBOOB HAS LEFT THE LIBERALS, IF THIS GUY WINS IN WALVERDEN AND CAN SHARE THOSE DESSERTS WITH DOROTHY AND COMPANY - SUGAR AM NOW GONNA HAVE NIGHTMARES. FUBAR
Jack, says...
10:36pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Smooth you really are cheesing me off matey.
smooth, says...
10:46pm Tue 15 Apr 08
joking aside, the longer this administration stays in power the worst this area is going to get. We ar the worst area for infant mortality, education, unemployment, health and in people living in poverty. A lick of paint and a few clearing of grot spots does not eradicate the underlying problems. The real Brian Astin owes a real apology to this area. under him the areas have signifcantly declined and under this administration we are a joke in everything we do - the only happy and deluded people are dorothy with her desserts and lord greeaves with his tinted spectacles and the bonus Mr davies has earned through and the power crazy Mr foster (his days as a self-elected buffoon are looking close to over). COME MAY 1ST LETS PLEASE MAKE A CHANGE AND LETS HOLD THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. BY THE WAY THE ONLY REASON MR ASTIN WAS PROMOTED WAS TO INCREASE HIS FINAL PENSION AND BECAUSE MR BARNES HAS SEEN NRF FUNDING BEING MISAPPROPRIATED INTO COUNCIL PET PROJECTS AT THE COST OF THE PEOPLE OF PENDLE. LITTLE DO PEOPLE IN PENDLE KNOW THAT NELSON HAS RECIEVED 1.25MILLION OF WORKING NEIGHBOURHOOD FUNDING AND YET NO MENTION OF THIS TO THE PUBLIC - ENOUGH SAID.
smooth, says...
11:01pm Tue 15 Apr 08
Hey jack, chill!!! Am sure I and others have enlightened alot of people in pendle living in ignorance but th equestion is come 1st may can you MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU HAVE LEARNT ABOUT THE PRESENT STATE OF AFFAIRS I DARE NOT THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. WHY IS IT THAT THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT TRUST LIBERALS NATIONALLY AND YET WE HAVE ALLOWED THESE BUFFOONS IN PENDLE? LOOK BEYOND THE LICK OF PAINT AND THE SAMRT DESIGNS - NOTHING IN PENDLE LOOKS LIKE THE INITIAL ARTISTS IMPRESSIONS - JUST LOOK AT THE FLAWED DESIGN OF THE ACE CENTRE - THERE ARE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES BUT BARNFIELD HAVE FORCED THE ISSUE AND THE PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED - GO ON DOROTHY SCUTINISE THAT. ALL THAT REMAINS IS MAY 1ST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!FUBAR
!!!!!!!!!!!!FUBAR
Anthony Hopkins, says...
1:44am Wed 16 Apr 08
It is deeply saddening to learn that for the sake of securing the "white" vote councillors are spreding propoganda. With themselves knowing that they are a pack of lies. I live in the Bradley ward and have lived there for the past 40 years and have never had any problems. There are certain people in every society that are racists but that does not mean all socirty is lik that. With regards to all these people that do not use their real names what are you guys afraid of? yourself? If we are to engage in a debate then please do not make any personal attacks on each other. Be clean and engage in the debate constuctively that is my request to everone who makes personal attacks.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
8:46am Wed 16 Apr 08
I for one agree that we should keep the debate genuine but as for personal attacks on politicians that is not on but we should attack their capacity as councillors if they are not up to the job and let's face it most of them really are incompetent.
mum of 4, nelson says...
10:23am Wed 16 Apr 08
This town needs more than a lick of paint and a bit of a clean up of the grot spots it needs **** well sorting out good and proper.
And as for the money spent on doing the houses up where have they been done all around Maurice street and lomeshaye areas the mainly asian areas, if they had kept them nice in the first place they wouldnt need doing and then we could spend more money on other things.
I will look back on here in interest on May 1st to see who has been elected and which ones of you were right.
Then look again in 6 months down the line to see if things have changed for the better or declined.
And as for the money spent on doing the houses up where have they been done all around Maurice street and lomeshaye areas the mainly asian areas, if they had kept them nice in the first place they wouldnt need doing and then we could spend more money on other things.
I will look back on here in interest on May 1st to see who has been elected and which ones of you were right.
Then look again in 6 months down the line to see if things have changed for the better or declined.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
12:13pm Wed 16 Apr 08
"Mum of 4" there is no point looking back in 6 months time, nothing will have changed as I just said in my previous post, due to the incompetent councillors who are not in it for civic & public duties but status & the like.
As for not looking after the area,this can only be effectively done when the residents know that if it is not done then they will face a penalty of some sort, not rewarded in the form of regeneration grants..nelson as a whole is the pits because we have collectively let it go down the pan...
As for not looking after the area,this can only be effectively done when the residents know that if it is not done then they will face a penalty of some sort, not rewarded in the form of regeneration grants..nelson as a whole is the pits because we have collectively let it go down the pan...
mum of 4, nelson says...
2:50pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Nelsoner you are exactly right we should all stop moaning really and get together and sort things out.Everyone moans but sits back and does nothing.We only have ourselves to blame.
smooth, says...
4:02pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Agree about the personal attacks aspect, but I know that the good samaritan has only raised his head when the initial defamatory remarks were chalenged back - I did not notice anybody challenging Dorothy Lords attack on mehboobs intelligence or Lord Greasy's attack on the people of Pendle as being ignorant - YES we challenge the work and accountability of the elected officials but also their personal attacks as well. This is not an arena at times for the feint hearted but are views are expressed eloquently and with diplomacy - these debates are not personal, they are abouT the change required to make OUR areas better, cleaner and people having pride and reasonable quality of life - not expecting much really just the simple things. Mum of 4 you are right about stop whinging and start making the right decision on May 1st - NO LIBERALS IN PENDLE IS WHAT WE WANT.
Nelson Lad, Nelson says...
4:23pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Totally agree with everything u say smooth but glad u havent used FUBAR this time
Nelson Lad, Nelson says...
4:34pm Wed 16 Apr 08
15 or 20 yrs ago NELSON was a beautiful town it was super when we had market st chippy the grand cinema the coffeshop and fountains in centre watch repairer and lil chef upstairs diy shop we had tandys genntleman johns tradition and nice people now it is so depressin going into town before we new everyone now we dont know whos who its a dump sad all the gd people have gone few remain alot missin bring back our old nelson centre.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
4:36pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Mumof4 you are right we should stop whinging & do something about it. I know that one of the reasons why the younger professionals who leave nelson to go to university dont return not just because there are no jobs but rather because the area seems to be in going downhill...silly mentality, nothing happening economically or socially for the town etc.
Nelson was a small but busy town in the 80s but it really has gone downhill...it is not all down to immigration or the lack of competence on the part of the councillors or the out of town shopping centres that have opened or the new younger generation being in a league of their own when it comes to criminality..it has happened due to a combination of factors and I am of the strong opinion that we if all pull together as residents of 1 town regardless of race/colour/creed/po
litical affiliation we can make things happen for this town.
Just look at Colne centre compared to nelson on a sat afternoon, its busier yet it has a smaller population...its a mick-take. I suggest that likeminded people get together at some point and do something positive rather than just rant on here about Lord Greaves & Co...we all know that the politicians are going to do NOTHING for the public/town!
Nelson was a small but busy town in the 80s but it really has gone downhill...it is not all down to immigration or the lack of competence on the part of the councillors or the out of town shopping centres that have opened or the new younger generation being in a league of their own when it comes to criminality..it has happened due to a combination of factors and I am of the strong opinion that we if all pull together as residents of 1 town regardless of race/colour/creed/po
litical affiliation we can make things happen for this town.
Just look at Colne centre compared to nelson on a sat afternoon, its busier yet it has a smaller population...its a mick-take. I suggest that likeminded people get together at some point and do something positive rather than just rant on here about Lord Greaves & Co...we all know that the politicians are going to do NOTHING for the public/town!
smooth, says...
4:55pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Agree with everything being expressed and all that is left is put democracy into action - we have expressed our views, concerns, issues and even highlighted some positive ways forward - THE POLITIICIANS AND THE OFFICERS HAVE IGNORED THEM ALL.
Nelsoner you are right it is a decisive moment in Pendle - we stick with the usual clowns or we make the change - change requires action and that means using our vote for change on May 1st - lets not allow these buffoons to run our areas even further into decline. I do like the idea of getting together and taking people action to make change Nelsoner - let me know what you have in mind and you have my support.
Nelsoner you are right it is a decisive moment in Pendle - we stick with the usual clowns or we make the change - change requires action and that means using our vote for change on May 1st - lets not allow these buffoons to run our areas even further into decline. I do like the idea of getting together and taking people action to make change Nelsoner - let me know what you have in mind and you have my support.
mum of 4, nelson says...
5:17pm Wed 16 Apr 08
i have just seen on the news and in the papers that Ethel Austin have gone into administration another downfall for our pendlerise centre if that closes down.
I too like the idea of getting together and makin people take action it would be about time.
It needs the people of nelson to have their say not left up to the Councillors.
LETS DO SOMETHING NOW.
Like nelson lad says there is not much left here.Where can you go on a weekend to take your children somewhere nice in there own town nowhere.
Even Colne has a Mc Donalds and a KFC and a childrens playcentre we have nothing.
I too like the idea of getting together and makin people take action it would be about time.
It needs the people of nelson to have their say not left up to the Councillors.
LETS DO SOMETHING NOW.
Like nelson lad says there is not much left here.Where can you go on a weekend to take your children somewhere nice in there own town nowhere.
Even Colne has a Mc Donalds and a KFC and a childrens playcentre we have nothing.
Spiderman, says...
6:05pm Wed 16 Apr 08
mum of 4 wrote:I couldn't agree with you. What we need to do is to vote the correct people in on 1 May. We don't want the same old clowns in Nelson who vote what everything LORD GREAVES TELLS THEM TO VOTE FOR. We require change and for that to happen we are going to have to be a catalyst for that. We all need to speak to family members, friends, neighbours to convince them to vote for the Labour and Tory candidates to bring about some balance in the Council. We have had 4 years of this Liberal administration and things have deteriorated from bad to worse. The only benefactors have been the Councillors many who receive big fat allowances (David Whipp £41 K per year), Sonia Robinson £18 K per year, Barnfield and Mr. Bannister from Boundary Mill. The average joe bloggs from Nelson is suffering. AND TO TOP IT UP THE LIBERALS HAVE CREATED A PARISH COUNCIL FOR NELSON & COLNE SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR CRONIES IN TO THE TOWN HALLS at the expense of our Council Tax. Good to hear from you mum of 4 and keep up the efforts. It would be good to meet people like Smooth, rough, batman, robin, Nelsoner, mehboobh and catwoman. We need to keep the momentum going!!
i have just seen on the news and in the papers that Ethel Austin have gone into administration another downfall for our pendlerise centre if that closes down. I too like the idea of getting together and makin people take action it would be about time. It needs the people of nelson to have their say not left up to the Councillors. LETS DO SOMETHING NOW. Like nelson lad says there is not much left here.Where can you go on a weekend to take your children somewhere nice in there own town nowhere. Even Colne has a Mc Donalds and a KFC and a childrens playcentre we have nothing.
Young Bypasser, Nelson says...
11:01pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Hello all id just like to add to the topic of what there was in town centre - that small little shop/stall sort of thing upon the enterance to the then arndale centre! Try and remember one man would sit inside and the shop was around it unless im remembering burnley or just imagining things lol. Im talkin maybe 10 years back! Wow it really was booming back then what happened now? Then again all is not bad our families constantly go out daily and put financial input into the shops even if its only small amounts of money!
Young Bypasser, Nelson says...
11:05pm Wed 16 Apr 08
Oh ****! I forgot to add the main thing i wrote for, he sold sweets!, and loads of them lol Abit similar to the burnley smokers shop on the enterance / exit!
Pendle Conservatives, says...
11:39pm Wed 16 Apr 08
We are appalled at comments that the two Councillors Muhammed Iqbal and Asjad Mehmood have given. We today live in multi-cultural Britain which is very diverse yet we have Councillors who insinuate that Asians are racist towards the Whites. We need to hold these liars accountable for their actions and demand for their resignation from the council as they are misrepresentative of their constituents views.
I would like to point out that the person who claims to be Ex-Councillor Mehboob Ahmed is actually not him. I have asked Mehboob and he has assured me that he does not know anything about it.
I would like to point out that the person who claims to be Ex-Councillor Mehboob Ahmed is actually not him. I have asked Mehboob and he has assured me that he does not know anything about it.
reality check, nelson, punjab says...
12:13am Thu 17 Apr 08
I will only vote Tariq if he discounts my next upvc windows.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
8:54am Thu 17 Apr 08
We had dorothy lord & anthony hopkins on here asking everyone to keep the comments legitimate & genuine..We now have someone pretending to be a Mr R Khan of some pakistani unknown village and the Pendle Liberals attacking some labour activist from nelson...
Does this not just show you the level of intellect that they have, its on a par with Tariq who is the labour candidate for whitefield...yet these people expect us to vote for them...
I also agree with the post above about the parish coucillor post having been established by the lib-dems so that they can have their cronies in their.
Young passer-by...yes there was a kiosk just as you entered the arndale,packed it was...Asian lad you are right, market st was packed with shoppers at N Gates chippy,Butts,Bits & Bytes,Microtech,Humb
erstones in arndale,the fruit & veg stall oppossite ethel austin(soon to be shut down), tandy, rumbelows,burtons in the 80s..the top floor had a kodak shop,gentleman johns, a couple of hair salons & little chef,coffee shop, the downstairs markets were also packed..now we have £1 shops enuf said..
Does this not just show you the level of intellect that they have, its on a par with Tariq who is the labour candidate for whitefield...yet these people expect us to vote for them...
I also agree with the post above about the parish coucillor post having been established by the lib-dems so that they can have their cronies in their.
Young passer-by...yes there was a kiosk just as you entered the arndale,packed it was...Asian lad you are right, market st was packed with shoppers at N Gates chippy,Butts,Bits & Bytes,Microtech,Humb
erstones in arndale,the fruit & veg stall oppossite ethel austin(soon to be shut down), tandy, rumbelows,burtons in the 80s..the top floor had a kodak shop,gentleman johns, a couple of hair salons & little chef,coffee shop, the downstairs markets were also packed..now we have £1 shops enuf said..
mehboobh, says...
11:19am Thu 17 Apr 08
Pendle Conservatives wrote:I have reiterated in the past and I say it again:
We are appalled at comments that the two Councillors Muhammed Iqbal and Asjad Mehmood have given. We today live in multi-cultural Britain which is very diverse yet we have Councillors who insinuate that Asians are racist towards the Whites. We need to hold these liars accountable for their actions and demand for their resignation from the council as they are misrepresentative of their constituents views. I would like to point out that the person who claims to be Ex-Councillor Mehboob Ahmed is actually not him. I have asked Mehboob and he has assured me that he does not know anything about it.
1. This person does not speak for the conservatives in Pendle
2. I might have political differences withMr Iqbal and Mr Asjad but I do not diasgree with their views bieng raised in the article - this is a serious matter that reqires peoples and the polices attention.
As a conservative I beleive in diversity, but not whats being preached here by theis fake conservative.
Tariq, says...
2:52pm Thu 17 Apr 08
I am Tariq the Labour party candidate for Whitefield ward. If elected I will serve the Whitefield community to the best of my ability. I have lived in this ward for 27 years and will continue to do so.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
4:25pm Thu 17 Apr 08
Well said Immy hahah!!! Leonard, we are living in a democracy as we keep getting told so we are entitled to air & express our opinions without being tortured or locked up!!!
Is it not the same as when leaders of the national political parties or people of different organisations oppose each others ideas??? Does that mean that Britain is in a mess because we have white politicians or other people opposing each other??
It is called being "different" & diverse in your opinions etc...Immy is right in what he says!
As for me, I disagree with what you say but defend to death your right to say it...is that not what freedom of speech in this country is based on??? I aint going to agree with fellow asians just because they are asian!! And as for my comments, I aint had a "go" at anyone in a personal capacity or come out with any "below the belt" remarks...I can agree to disagree with someone yet still be friends with them & talk to them in a humane way with respect & dignity accorded on both sides...
Roll on the next who wants to have a "dig"
Is it not the same as when leaders of the national political parties or people of different organisations oppose each others ideas??? Does that mean that Britain is in a mess because we have white politicians or other people opposing each other??
It is called being "different" & diverse in your opinions etc...Immy is right in what he says!
As for me, I disagree with what you say but defend to death your right to say it...is that not what freedom of speech in this country is based on??? I aint going to agree with fellow asians just because they are asian!! And as for my comments, I aint had a "go" at anyone in a personal capacity or come out with any "below the belt" remarks...I can agree to disagree with someone yet still be friends with them & talk to them in a humane way with respect & dignity accorded on both sides...
Roll on the next who wants to have a "dig"
smooth, says...
5:01pm Thu 17 Apr 08
Well put Nelsoner - the common themes of wanting a change and end to wastage has been consistent in peoples comments. Agree with your views on defending the rights accorded to us in this great country of ours. Most of the genuine people have started a constructive debate on this site and if the politicians have any sense they will take notice of these, the present and the new ones after May 1st. What has also been highlighted that the ones with their personal attacks and slighting remarks have indicated their lack of intelligence and as a consequence lack of direction - if anything that should hasten change. The point with these comments is about empowering people with whats going on and give them an oportunity to comment on it - alot have done that but we will always be plagued by ones with their insulting and prejudicial views - hey what can i tell you thats democracy at its best and at times at its worst.
BNP supporter, says...
7:05pm Thu 17 Apr 08
You know something, it is people like yourself that have let the whole of society down. And that is 1 of reasons why some white folk do not like the pakistanis. Look at your lot you can't even get along with your own lot let alone the white folk.
Liberal Supporter, says...
7:22pm Thu 17 Apr 08
Oi BNP supporter you saying we dont get along?? What has your dream party got to offer? Nothin but a bunch of racist thugs! Yeah there is alot of divisions being created by this voting crap within the community. But with nobheads like you who are so scared to say things like this face to face it seems this chatroom is the safest place to air your views **** haha
steph white, brierfield says...
9:17pm Thu 17 Apr 08
After having my son and husband in an unprovoked attack by hooded asian youths i feel it is time something was done before we all turn into vigilanties,the police have admitted to us that they cannot do anything as they are running round in gangs, what are we supposed to do if they can't manage them? My husband eneded up in hospital after been attacked and dragged out of his car, this all happened round the corner from where i live and has anything been done No the police say sorry we didn't have him in custody, maybe the police should listen when they are been told yes you do! Was this a case of do we arrest any asians as we might get done for racism, what about my hubby who never hit anyone in his life, my son gets charged with assault because he helped his dad, the lad who assaulted my son got 25 hours community service wow! will find out tomorrow what my son gets,guaranteed he gets more.
So wheb they say that there are not many attacks on white people don't believe it this was 2 unprovoked attacks in less than 2 weeks and not only on my son but talking to other people around me it is a regular occurance.
So wheb they say that there are not many attacks on white people don't believe it this was 2 unprovoked attacks in less than 2 weeks and not only on my son but talking to other people around me it is a regular occurance.
Liberal Supporter, Nelson says...
10:41pm Thu 17 Apr 08
Hey Steph sorry to hear about the incident. I am appalled by some of the behaviour of some of these asian lads around the streets nowadays. Being an asian my self ive grown up with some and my god are they embarassing! Especially when they walk around with hoods on and music on phones lol. Well back to the topic I bet it was a bunch of youths who were bored, mind you I dont blame them. They have nothing to do in their spare time due to the council not investing in thing for them to do! It is a joke nowadays I think the police are very helpful pepople and I would be more than happy to submit intelligence to them AND NO I AINT NO SNITCH Just hate rotten rats who walk around the streets thinking they are the next tupac shakur or some blood or crip type gang members. Get a grip of yourselves embarrasing people and no dont cry calling people racist when they are fed up of your behaviour and decide to speak out!
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
8:48am Fri 18 Apr 08
Steph White very sorry to hear about the awful incident that you have experienced...hope the scumbags are caught & locked up for a very long time (which wont happen as we are constantly told the prisons are full!!!)
As for Liberal Supporter from Nelson...what are you on about "you dont blame them" they must have been bored...when I was a kid we didnt have the facilities we do today yet we didnt go out & commit crime..boredom is no excuse for criminality...but as for the council not investing anything for them I must agree with you, Pendle has had about £114 million pounds since 1996...where has it gone?? Probably to create "made up" executive posts within the council & the like after which the remaining sums have been spent on a few new flower pots & stuff in nelson town centre and surrounding areas...I aint a politician, I aint a mathematician & I aint in Management but one thing I can tell you for certain...put me in charge of £114 million pound along with others on here who have posted constructive debate & Im sure we can do a much better job of regenerating the whole of Pendle not just nelson than half of the out of touch council leaders have done....I wouldnt contract Barnfield construction just because they are in with Stephen Barnes (Council Exec) or favour anyone..and when I say regenerate the whole of pendle that would include barlick & cravendale & earby,colne etc not just nelson & maybe brierfield which then creates divisions within the ethnic make ups of the borough!
As for Liberal Supporter from Nelson...what are you on about "you dont blame them" they must have been bored...when I was a kid we didnt have the facilities we do today yet we didnt go out & commit crime..boredom is no excuse for criminality...but as for the council not investing anything for them I must agree with you, Pendle has had about £114 million pounds since 1996...where has it gone?? Probably to create "made up" executive posts within the council & the like after which the remaining sums have been spent on a few new flower pots & stuff in nelson town centre and surrounding areas...I aint a politician, I aint a mathematician & I aint in Management but one thing I can tell you for certain...put me in charge of £114 million pound along with others on here who have posted constructive debate & Im sure we can do a much better job of regenerating the whole of Pendle not just nelson than half of the out of touch council leaders have done....I wouldnt contract Barnfield construction just because they are in with Stephen Barnes (Council Exec) or favour anyone..and when I say regenerate the whole of pendle that would include barlick & cravendale & earby,colne etc not just nelson & maybe brierfield which then creates divisions within the ethnic make ups of the borough!
Liberal Supporter, Nelson says...
1:21pm Fri 18 Apr 08
Yeah bro agreed. Ok I should have reworded that it wasnt meant to come out like that! lol Well your right I think this new community centre behind one market street is going to be just as bad and as money and time wasting as ever. Its horrendus what does the council think this is some sort of joke. The residents sure aint laughing. Well said nelsoner. Lets just hope Mr Nadeem Ahmed can put thing straight or he will have a few visits from a few angry voters round his house unless he changes address once hes won! lol
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
3:29pm Fri 18 Apr 08
I agree Liberal Supporter,Nadeem is active I must say but wonder how much he is ordered to tow the party line like the rest of the politicians of all parties..also difficult for 1 man to singlehandedly change anything..
The ACE building at number 1 market st is being made out as though its the saviour of nelson town centre...no big deal it really isnt...we need more businesses opening up in nelson to attract the shoppers not people who simply work there from 9-5 and then go back home to burnley padiham or wherever...
Nadeem better not do a saj karim special on us & exit to clayton le moors or wherever else! or to the tories even!!
The ACE building at number 1 market st is being made out as though its the saviour of nelson town centre...no big deal it really isnt...we need more businesses opening up in nelson to attract the shoppers not people who simply work there from 9-5 and then go back home to burnley padiham or wherever...
Nadeem better not do a saj karim special on us & exit to clayton le moors or wherever else! or to the tories even!!
Liberal Supporter, Nelson says...
3:51pm Fri 18 Apr 08
Yeah fella! Good point although I doubt he would escape from nelson very easily. We can find out who his family members are very easily. I furthermore agree on your point how would one man single handedly become the saviour! He wont thats what the Liberal Team is there for lol! Best of luck to the liberal democrats they going to do it again! Mind you im only such a massive supporter of him after looking at his opposition. Mr Tariq from Labour get out of here I would only vote him if I was leaving nelson and wanted to make the residents life hell! As for the conservatives they should not even bother they just loose each time should be intrestin to see by how many hundred votes they loose this time! Anyways im going to go round the liberal comitee CRIB on every street haha!
Bob The Gob, Nelson says...
4:20pm Fri 18 Apr 08
I have been patiently reading this debate and the following is my humble opinion:
Asian 'councillors' don't know anything about politics more than a fish knows how to ride a bike. (I'm Asian, btw) Ive lived and grown up in Nelson all my life and have seen the town change from a thriving metropolitan hub to a pile of **** that no-one wants to associate themselves with (ask the kids that go to uni, their uni mates never know where Nelson is). When 'campaigning', it's always about 'Oh, I know your Dad and your Grandfather back home is a family friend' - which automatically makes them think you have a duty to give them your vote. Once elected, you don't see the toerags again, till polling day, next year. Local politics isnt about politics anymore, its about social status.
What we need is a straight-talking, no shhit-taking councillor who actually starts making changes. We've been around the 'we'll do this, n we'll do that' merry-go-round too many times. My dizziness is affecting my health. The biggest point I am trying to make is:
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!
Asian 'councillors' don't know anything about politics more than a fish knows how to ride a bike. (I'm Asian, btw) Ive lived and grown up in Nelson all my life and have seen the town change from a thriving metropolitan hub to a pile of **** that no-one wants to associate themselves with (ask the kids that go to uni, their uni mates never know where Nelson is). When 'campaigning', it's always about 'Oh, I know your Dad and your Grandfather back home is a family friend' - which automatically makes them think you have a duty to give them your vote. Once elected, you don't see the toerags again, till polling day, next year. Local politics isnt about politics anymore, its about social status.
What we need is a straight-talking, no shhit-taking councillor who actually starts making changes. We've been around the 'we'll do this, n we'll do that' merry-go-round too many times. My dizziness is affecting my health. The biggest point I am trying to make is:
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!
smooth, says...
6:36pm Fri 18 Apr 08
Liberal Support can you inform us less politically inclined people exactly what has Councillor Nadeem achieved in his tenure so far. I refer you to the IMD statistics that show Whitefield is one of the shittest areas in all of lancashire - did councillor Nadeem contribute to this mess? You also happen to be a major area for infant mortality - has Councillor Nadeem raised this in Council chambers? Whitefield has one of the largest numbers of benefit claimants - has Councillor Nadeem raised this in Council meetings or with appropriate stakeholder? Whitefield ward is considered one of the worst in the country for quality of life. Taking al this into consideration would you say Councillor Nadeem is the saviour of Whitefield? I don't know about you, its not about which party wins, its about the calibre of the person representing their area and how they can influence and get resources and marshall the community to take some responsibility as well. If Mr NADEEM is construed as being dynamic by you and others, (and i have already outlined his record on serious issues), then whitefield deserves him for all its worth - **** begets **** as they say in nelson
Liberal Supporter, Nelson says...
7:35pm Fri 18 Apr 08
Hahaha Smooth you crack me up with ur bull5hit. Hahaa highest infant mortaltiy, highest benefit claiments. Oh man more like your one of the biggest morons whos got his facts WRONG. You must be one of those who moved out because they got bullied all their lives! You calling this crappest ward/area in lancashire. I mean have you ever seen leeds road area(smackhead crews and hoodies), colne(chav scum), blackburn(cash,drugs
) you calling them good mate get your facts rights nob hahaha Worst in the area for quality of life?? We have very clean homes and street sweepers who constantly keep our reputation up get out of here with your biased info.
) you calling them good mate get your facts rights nob hahaha Worst in the area for quality of life?? We have very clean homes and street sweepers who constantly keep our reputation up get out of here with your biased info.
ali, says...
8:04pm Fri 18 Apr 08
To Liberal Supporter. It is a well known fact that Whitefield is in the worst 5% nationally. The Liberals have run Pendle Council for the last 4 years but what progress has there been?? No. 1 Market Square A BIG BIG FLOP. Only benefactors are Council staff. The ACE BUILDING IS DOOMED FOR FAILURE. Central Labour Government has invested millions in East Lancashire. Look at the Sure Starts, the new Schools to be built Pendle Vale to be opened in September. Marsden Heights to be built very soon after. New primary school in Nelson. BUT THIS LIBERAL ADMINISTRATION HAS LET THE PEOPLE OF PENDLE DOWN. It is time for a change and my opinion is that the Conservatives are a good option.
Liberal Supporter, Nelson says...
8:30pm Fri 18 Apr 08
I dont think ive heard as much of a rubbish false statistic as of that whitefiled a small unheard of ward has been rated so poor nationally? I mean come on there are much worse areas of nelson than this. Every Street has recently seen some nice regeneration and lomeshaye road. But fair enough i do agree liberal did have a few mess ups in their time and like I mentioned earlier i am only voting because the opposition Tariq is a joke haha hes just too much for his own plate. As for conservatives who the hell are these SO CALLED SAVIOURS they are rubbish and always loose for a reason they arent saviours they will help to create this town even more disaster. Mind you most of the nobheads who constantly diss this area aint even from round here, we as residents love living around these areas they are safe(well for some) lively and so on. So get out of here with your rubbish talk about how poor this area is and so on, on the bright side look at the water factory on every street its being regenerated!
smooth, says...
8:50pm Fri 18 Apr 08
If you represent the majority perception of an areas that is classified as extremely poor I am not surprised which ever politician you elect takes advantage of the situation - no need to make an effort in doing their job because the local are happy with the slop we provide them with - . I don't disagree with you that some work has been done on a few of the houses, but its of such low quality that the builders are still laughing. JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PROBLEMS RESIDENCE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT AND STILL DOING SO. AS for comparing your area to others - FACT 1: PROSTITUTES ARE PROMINENT ON ST MARYS STREET; FACT 2: ALCOHOLICS AND DRUGGIES SEE WHITEFIED AS THEIR HAPPY PILL; FACT3: ITS STILL THE NUMBER ONE FOR FLY TIPPING FACT4: THE STREETS ARE FULL OF **** - LOOK AT THE ABANDONED MATTRESSES IN BACKSTREETS FACT 5: THE NUMBE ROF MUGGINGS BY DRUGGIES ARE UP. FACT6: MORTE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH A BIT OF SENSE ARE LEAVING THE AREA AND PRIVATE LANDLORDS ARE MOVING IN WITH THEIR TENANTS AND ALL THEIR BAGGAGE.
I don't care which **** party gets elected JUST MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE LIVES OF THE LOCALS - THEY DESERVE THAT. NOW IF YOUR HAPPY WITH YOUR SLOP LIBERAL SUPPORTER, YOUR ONE PERSON THE NEXT COUNCILLOR NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT DON'T YOU THINK. ITS TRUE YOU CAN TAKE A PERSON OUT OF THE ****, BUT YOU CANT TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE PERSON.
BY THE WAY ITS GOOD TO KNOW ONE OF THE LOCAL PARTY HAS DECIDED TO POLICE THIS SITE - THEY MUST HAVE DRAWN LOTS RATHER THAN ON COMPETENCE.
I don't care which **** party gets elected JUST MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE LIVES OF THE LOCALS - THEY DESERVE THAT. NOW IF YOUR HAPPY WITH YOUR SLOP LIBERAL SUPPORTER, YOUR ONE PERSON THE NEXT COUNCILLOR NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT DON'T YOU THINK. ITS TRUE YOU CAN TAKE A PERSON OUT OF THE ****, BUT YOU CANT TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE PERSON.
BY THE WAY ITS GOOD TO KNOW ONE OF THE LOCAL PARTY HAS DECIDED TO POLICE THIS SITE - THEY MUST HAVE DRAWN LOTS RATHER THAN ON COMPETENCE.
ali, says...
9:34pm Fri 18 Apr 08
What I would like to state that Nelson is in the dumps. FACT The Ethel Austin store in Pendle Rise Shopping Centre is probably going to close very soon as reported in this newspaper earlier in the week. So that will mean another large empty space in the shopping centre. FACT The newly opened Tesco has laid off approx. 40 members of staff only within a few weeks of opening!! FACT No. 1 Market Square has had TWO GRAND OPENINGS (probably at the expense of tax payers)and STILL THE SHOPS HAVE TO LET SIGNS 6 MONTHS ON. FACT:- THE FLAGSTONES OUTSIDE THIS NO. 1 MARKET SQUARE WERE CRACKED & UNEVEN WITHIN A FEW WEEKS OF OPENING DUE TO POOR WORKMANSHIP. FACT:- HOUSING GRANT WORK DONE ON LOMESHAYE ROAD / EVERY STREET AREA HAS BEEN DONE TO A VERY POOR QUALITY. THERE ARE NO QUALITY CONTROL CHECKS IN PLACE AND THE RESIDENTS I BELIEVE HAVE BEEN VERY UPSET. So you have 3 options to vote on 1 May. Vote N Ahmed and get stuffed as usual by the Liberals as their stronghold is Colne and Barlick. Vote M Tariq and I have been informed that he is a successful businessman that owns a lot of properties. OR DO LIKE ME AND VOTE FOR THE REAL CHANGE VOTE VICTORIA LANDRIAU (conservative)
facts not fiction, says...
11:52am Sat 19 Apr 08
It is a well known fact that the Liberals are on the run in this election. When has the leader of a political party turned up to drum up support for the local elections?? The only one I aware of is Nick Clegg. As for your prospective parliamentary candidate 27 votes registered in one house and that is not counting the children under 18.
Anthony Hopkins, says...
1:00am Sun 20 Apr 08
I have visited this page regularly for the last couple of weeks and have been viewing the comments left by people. Some of which i agree wth. I totally agree that councillors should be held accountabe for their actions. If i remeber rightly Mahboob Ahmad was voted out of office two years ago as he was incompitent and not upto the job. So people wake up and choose people who represent you and your views and not the ones who do not care about their residents once elected you never see them until april time. Like in Bradley ward there are two main candidates both Asian which i do not have a problem with whatsoever. But Sakib the lab candidate a builder by profession has been a councillor before and is never to be seen after elections thats why he got voted out. Where as Jamil the lib demcandidat is a teacher locally so i feel he will be easily to ge hold off if i have problms. Whereas Sakib might be on a building site i Blackburn what am i supposed to do then. As a Labour voter all my life i think i will be voting lib dems this time as the candidate for Labour has been tried and tested and was a failure. On the other hnd Councillor Iqbal i do not hve any problems with heis easily accessible and he also speaks out in the council chambers unlike other tried and tested councillors
Conservative Bradley, says...
11:17am Sun 20 Apr 08
All I can say to Anthony Hopkins is that IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT the Liberal candidate for Bradley ward is THE HEADTEACHER at an Islamic Girls school in Nelson. PARDON ME BEING IGNORANT BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT HEADTEACHERS WERE IN POLITICALLY RESTRICTED POSTS!! BUT THEN AGAIN IT IS AN ISLAMIC SCHOOL IN NELSON SO WHAT DO YOU SAY??
jason, says...
1:05pm Sun 20 Apr 08
I have been visitng this page recently and found some of the views immensely interesting and concerning. Not one for local politics, the amount of wastage that has allegedly occured is shameful. As someone who lives in Nelson but works in the city of manchester, I agree with the comments about the state of the Town. This place had a thriving town centre and now its full of third world shops selling cheap and tack goods - the people of Nelson deserve better quality of shops and quality of Life than this. Although not politically inclined,the thing I have decided is that the Liberals have had their moment and maybe someone new needs to be given a chance. As for this Headteacher standing in Bradley, does he live in the locality and does he know what the local issues are? I think its important ot elect someone who is competent but also aware of the local social and economic needs.
Bob The Gob, Nelson says...
2:10pm Sun 20 Apr 08
Guys, guys, guys! I think it's about time someone actually did something. Im in my mid-twenties and have always been a very eccentric person who loves to deliver. Not one for politics but I know the town my kids will be growing up in is a ghost town. Lets rebel! Let's go to the town hall and officially boycott our votes. This is a joke, why are most councillers fat? Money is NOT spent on what it is officially allocated for. There's pilfering going on. These councillers, all of them, are just out for the status. None of them have any relevant talents: persuasion techniques, public speaking, organisation, charisma, experience, political history/knowledge etc etc I am sick of this merry-go-round. I was chatting to the owner of Emery Electrics Shop in Market Street last week and he got it in one. He said: 'Nowadays, the state of local politics is like a playground feud between groups of little girls' Hahaha!
Vote me instead, Bob The Gob!
Vote me instead, Bob The Gob!
gg, NELSON says...
8:21pm Sun 20 Apr 08
the local elections are coming soon, i no who i will be voting for.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
8:41am Tue 22 Apr 08
Come on guys lets keep it real & stick to the rules here...stop squabbling & start debating..if your intellect doesn't stretch that far then dont post any defamatory or offensive comments to anyone..Im not here to support or undermine anyone, im just here to make sure that the people of pendle know how much money is being squandered by the local govt which we receive in the area through European & national level regeneration grants...its a discgrace...the greaves & fosters of this world should be ashamed of themselves!
Irfan Ahmed, Nelson says...
8:26pm Tue 22 Apr 08
If there is anyone that has got a problem with the lib dems and has firm opinions in his thaughts then he should get in contact with me on my email irfanahmed@burntmail
.com
.com
David, says...
1:03am Wed 23 Apr 08
I for one totally agree with Nelsoner that we should debate not quarrel between ourselves. The issue that is most important to me is the A&E going to Blackburn from Burnley. I received a leaflet from Gordon Prentice MP saying how he supports bringing it back etc. Well my message to the Labour Party and the two Labour MP's for Burnley and Pendle is that if you had your finger out of your backside in the first place and stopped YOUR government from doing this we would not have been in this mess. My Son broke his ankle whilst playing football after a 3 hour wait at Burnley we we told to go to Blackburn and before being treated it was another 4 Hour wait what happened to the efficiency of the NHS. DISGUSTING IF U ASK ME.
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
8:50am Wed 23 Apr 08
David you are right about the A&E..it is pathetic..I had to use the blackburn one recently myself...it really is a matter of life & death in some circumstances & those extra minutes does cost lives.
As for Irfan Ahmed please learn how to spell before entering into public forums..it is spelt "thought" not "thaught". Did you go to school or what...mind you I hear that the lib dem councillors dont really need to speak english or fluent english i should say as they just tow the party line & do as David Foster or Tony Greaves say..
Tony/David - jump
Irfan Ahmed - how high
LOL VERY LOUD!
As for Irfan Ahmed please learn how to spell before entering into public forums..it is spelt "thought" not "thaught". Did you go to school or what...mind you I hear that the lib dem councillors dont really need to speak english or fluent english i should say as they just tow the party line & do as David Foster or Tony Greaves say..
Tony/David - jump
Irfan Ahmed - how high
LOL VERY LOUD!
Nelsoner, Nelson says...
4:30pm Wed 23 Apr 08
FAO I dont support any of em...just trying to add a bit of humour to all this heated political debate. I agree with you, all the leaflets are full of crap really lets face it..which politician is in it for me & you? None of them!!
smooth, says...
6:27pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Irfan Ahmed wrote:Typical - missing the point. Read the comments and that will lead you to the problems that people seem to have with this administration. This is e-democracy (and you and the liberals should start to realise that the views here are the tip of the iceberg. Come May 1st liberals might wish they had listened.
If there is anyone that has got a problem with the lib dems and has firm opinions in his thaughts then he should get in contact with me on my email irfanahmed@burntmail .com
Nelsoner your point on this guys spelling (and may i add grammar) epitomises their own low aspirations and achievements.
King, says...
1:26pm Fri 2 May 08
Lib Dems have won and yes Nadeem is a very good councillor and the parish councillors for Lib Dems have won 2.So all you people who were supporting tariq and them lot in ur face
Kamran, says...
2:54pm Sun 4 May 08
if u get to know Azal personally he is a very nice man and also hopefully will become MP and Nadeem has the record of the First Person 2 win Second Term in a row in the Whitefield and also he the most lead in this ward so nadeem is a godo councillor that why the public have given them the vote and Nadeem from my experience has done everything that i have asked him to do he is a very nice cllr and a very good one.
Coun Mohammed Iqbal
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concerned resident, nelson says...
10:21am Fri 11 Apr 08
We read it in the paper time and time again here in nelson and yet nothing is done about it well now lets get something done.
Maybe Nelsoner has something to say here because usually he wont have anything said about the asian community in this town.
Well done councillor Iqbal for fetching this to light wether anything comes of it we will have to see.