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Grief for the Karims

9:41am Wednesday 27th June 2007

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SUPPORTERS of a family of asylum seekers have reacted with anger after they were arrested and taken to a detention centre for deportation.

Police and immigration officials detained the Karims in a dramatic dawn swoop at their Nelson home in Arthur Street this morning.

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Nigel, 53 and Pearl, 44, and children Calvin, 12 and Crystal, 14, were then taken to a holding centre near Heathrow airport.

The family's lawyer Richard Roberts - who yesterday launched a desperate bid to challenge the deportation - said a flight had been booked for Saturday to take the family back to Pakistan.

Their parish priest and the headteacher at Fisher More High School, where Calvin and Crystal are pupils, have told of their shock, distress and frustration at the family's treatment.

Fr Chris Gorton, from the family's church Holy Saviour, said: "They have changed everyone's perception of asylum seekers. This will really hurt the parish."

The couple were living at Pearl's mother and father's home where police swooped yesterday.

Mrs Shakuhtla Samuels, Pearl's mother who has a visa to stay in Britain, said: "I was asleep when it happened. Two policemen came in and I was awoken by the voices.

"They asked me if I was Pearl. I said 'no but I am her mother'.

"When I saw them in their uniforms I realised they must have come for them.

"It's been so hard. My husband is in hospital after he collapsed yesterday.

"They are going to discharge him today and I don't know how to tell him.

"It was so upsetting when I saw them being put in to the van and driven away.

"I am hoping that the lawyer will be able to do something. God is good and He will help them."

The arrests appear to mark the end of a long fight by the Karims and their supporters to try and stay in the UK.

The family came to this country in 2002 claiming asylum.

In May they were given 30 days to leave the country after a judicial review into their case for asylum was rejected by the High Court and a letter from Pendle MP Gordon Prentice pleading their case to immigration minister Liam Byrne was dismissed.

A fresh claim for asylum based on the Karims' high profile and arguing they could be targeted for persecution because of it has also been thrown out by the Home Office.

The family believe their lives would be in danger if they returned to Pakistan because of their Catholic faith.

Mrs Karim's cousin was murdered shortly before the family left five years ago, and it is thought that the killers were really after her husband because of his religious beliefs.

Mr Karim has also been told by friends there is a poster in his home country offering £6,000 as a reward for his death.

Residents of Nelson, as well as teachers and friends from the children's schools Holy Saviour Primary and Fisher More, and parishioners from their church, Holy Saviour, have campaigned for them to stay.

Brendan Conboy, headteacher at Fisher More, said: "The school and its wider community have taken this family to our hearts and we are greatly shocked and distressed at what has happened.

"This is completely unfair. The Karims are in our thoughts and prayers. We are all hoping we will see them again soon."

Fr Gorton said: "This is very, very sad and has come as a great shock. It is heartbreaking.

"Everyone has tried so hard and they are such a wonderful family."

Coun Ann Kerrigan, who has been supporting the family's case, said: "The most upsetting thing is children are involved in this and there's also the wider impact on the children at school who are distraught.

"This is about human rights but they don't seem to have any."

A spokesman for the Home Office refused to comment on the Karim's case but said: "The government has made it clear it will take a robust approach to removing people who have no legal right to be here."

A police spokesman said: "On June 27, immigration officials and officers from Lancashire Constabulary detained four persons under the immigration act.

"Upon leaving, they were taken to an immigration centre.

"Immigration officials did not receive any resistance from the detainees, who were polite and complied with their requests."


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Anthony, Accrington says...
11:30am Thu 28 Jun 07

Good. At least they've decided to go without a fight...now if all asylumseekers who are due to be deported could be reasonable in a similar way. Hmmm...

Dave, says...
12:35pm Thu 28 Jun 07

Anthony wrote:
Good. At least they\'ve decided to go without a fight...now if all asylumseekers who are due to be deported could be reasonable in a similar way. Hmmm...
This family is one we should keep in this country. Does their behaviour not prove what good people they are? We are ALL praying for them.

saeed, Rotherham says...
12:45pm Thu 28 Jun 07

It is total chaos,oppression and cruelty against already depressed,oppressed and life struggling families. Is this that happen in a safe heaven?

Jack Wallhurst, Bridgwater says...
3:07pm Thu 28 Jun 07

I firmly believe that a large proportion of so called asylum seekers are nothing of the kind. TV footage of the Sangatte staging post near Calais showed that most of them were dodgy looking young blokes.
But this is the second disgraceful case I have known within the past several months of a thoroughly deserving Christian family being deported to the horrors of a religio-fascist state. Earlier this year an Iranian Christian family - 2 blind parents plus sighted daughter - were deported from Southern England. Note the common feature - soft targets with no violent multitude ready to take to the streets in protest. Some disgusting official in the immigration "service" is now a few numbers nearer to his/her target for the month.
Just check out the normal names of this family. They have been condemned to an awful future or no future at all when all sorts of undesirables are at large and untroubled by those immigration "service" officials.

John, Pendle says...
12:13am Fri 29 Jun 07

Anthony wrote:
Well I don't show any sympathy for asylumseekers here legally or illegally-if they have to go back home when all the normal processes to stay here have been exhausted then they SHOULD accept that they have to be removed and co-operate with the immigration service and police when they have to go. THEY SHOULD NOT; shoot them with guns, throw bricks at them, set fire to their own houses and burn themselves alive in a bid to avoid deportation, commit suicide and have their families back home blame it on the Govt and be allowed to claim compensation for not being allowed to stay here in the UK and they say their people were supposedly being forced into it, stab the police and immigration service staff with knives or fight with them to prevent them doing their job,and anything else.
Anthony do shut up - these people are complying with the laws and probably will end up being 'removed'. Like Jack says, these are easy targets, they make for simple 'removal' and still count towards the number of illegal asylum seekers who have been rejected. Bravo government, keep all the dross, scum, lowlife etc. and send decent families elsewhere! What a state this country is in.

BLT, Blackburn says...
1:18am Fri 29 Jun 07

I would comment further on this article,But John,Pendle's last comment encapsulated what I would have said...Allow the lowlife in,then throw out the worthy asylum seeker...Fuzzy Logic at it's best.

Anthony, Accrington says...
1:11pm Fri 29 Jun 07

Time people like this went back without trouble,the number of stabbings and assaults etc on immigration staff doing their job in removing asylumseekers because they are being difficult to remove refuse should be backed by zerotolerance and if you bite stab assault punch or kick immigration staff who remove you in the course of their job then it should be backed by a permanant ban from the UK with NO return.

Mrs Motyka, says...
7:19pm Fri 29 Jun 07

I have had the pleasure of knowing the Karim family for over 4 years since they arrived in Britain in 2002. I work in the local primary school which both Calvin and Crystal attended. Mrs Karim free and willingly gave up her free time to help out at school and give something back to the community. Mrs Karim has also worked tirelessly in charity shops and played a vital role in the parish community. Mr Karim has also put in many hours of time and effort in the local parish and is always willing to help others less fortunate than himself. I feel very strongly about their case to seek asylumn within the UK and are genuine, hard working and respectable people who give ALOT to our community. Anyone who knows the Karim's will understand that they are genuine asylumn seekers who fear for their life and should be allowed to stay in this country. This is a fantastic fmaily who I hope to see back at home in Nelson where they so rightly belong soon.

Katherine Parker, Nelson says...
9:41pm Fri 29 Jun 07

Before 'Anthony' starts whinging again I would like to say that I not only know the Karims personally but also Mrs Motyka, who has very kindly posted a comment above. A letter of mine has also been printed about the case in today's edition of the Nelson Leader. If 'Anthony' has enough sense then he, like me, would assess all the information and facts about the situation before writing a letter for publication either online or in a printed newspaper. As he has clearly demonstrated a lack of sense and research into the matter and even indeed a lack of reading of this newspaper(!), I will therefore delight in telling him and others who are of a similar mentality that the Karims certainly were NOT being 'difficult to remove' from their home on Wednesday at 6.30am: a Lancashire Police spokesman said on Wednesday that 'immigration officials did not receive any resistance from the detainees, who were polite and complied with their requests’ (for the source of this quote see http://www.lancashir

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php). They also certainly DID not ‘bite, stab, assault, punch or kick immigration staff’ as he so blindly says in one of his comments.
I suggest ‘Anthony’ begins employing the use of the few brain cognition cells he has, and also gets his grammar correct before he submits any comment. In a very ironic twist to the stereotypical basis his has utilised in the writing of his comments, I believe the likes of him are the people who need removing from this country, not the Karims!

Katherine Parker, Nelson says...
9:49pm Fri 29 Jun 07

Apologies for the appearance of the webpage given in my comment above; this comments feature obviously doesn't like the inclusion of them. The webpage can be visited alternatively by going to www.holysaviour.org.
uk (the website of the Church the Karims attend) and clicking on the link 'Lancashire Telegraph - Priest and headteacher's anger at treatment of Karim family - 27/06/2007' on the homepage, which is under the 'Related links' header. The Holy Saviour website also includes full details of the Karims' case and latest news, which I am sure 'Anthony' would be very interested in reading.

JD, Blackburn says...
11:04am Sat 30 Jun 07

Anthony,I cannot understand your connection with this obviously peaceful family and the people related to your racist rantings...Are we BNP by any chance,Anthony?

annemarie gane, b/wick says...
10:47am Mon 2 Jul 07

could anyone tell me if the have been sent back or not and anthony sometimes im ashamed to say im british after your comment

Anthony, Accrington says...
8:19am Tue 3 Jul 07

Katherine Parker wrote:
Before 'Anthony' starts whinging again I would like to say that I not only know the Karims personally but also Mrs Motyka, who has very kindly posted a comment above. A letter of mine has also been printed about the case in today's edition of the Nelson Leader. If 'Anthony' has enough sense then he, like me, would assess all the information and facts about the situation before writing a letter for publication either online or in a printed newspaper. As he has clearly demonstrated a lack of sense and research into the matter and even indeed a lack of reading of this newspaper(!), I will therefore delight in telling him and others who are of a similar mentality that the Karims certainly were NOT being 'difficult to remove' from their home on Wednesday at 6.30am: a Lancashire Police spokesman said on Wednesday that 'immigration officials did not receive any resistance from the detainees, who were polite and complied with their requests’ (for the source of this quote see http://www.lancashir etelegraph.co.uk/new s/pendle/headlines/d isplay.var.1502098.0 .priest_and_headteac hers_anger_at_treatm ent_of_karim_family. php). They also certainly DID not ‘bite, stab, assault, punch or kick immigration staff’ as he so blindly says in one of his comments. I suggest ‘Anthony’ begins employing the use of the few brain cognition cells he has, and also gets his grammar correct before he submits any comment. In a very ironic twist to the stereotypical basis his has utilised in the writing of his comments, I believe the likes of him are the people who need removing from this country, not the Karims!
Didn't say they did stab kick bite etc LIAR!

Katherine Parker, Nelson says...
11:10am Tue 3 Jul 07

To Annemarie Gane: Yes the Karims have sadly been deported; they were deported on Sat. night at 9.30pm at Gatwick airport.
To Anthony: what's this then that you've put in your comment posted at 11.11pm on Fri. 29th June: '...and if you bite stab assault punch or kick immigration staff who remove you in the course of their job...' As you were insulting the Karim family in this comment then by implication you were saying that the Karim family have the mentality to do that. Or is this yet another example of you not even reading your own comments as well as not reading the Lancashire Telegraph?!

Anthony, Accrington says...
12:53pm Tue 3 Jul 07

Katherine Parker wrote:
To Annemarie Gane: Yes the Karims have sadly been deported; they were deported on Sat. night at 9.30pm at Gatwick airport. To Anthony: what's this then that you've put in your comment posted at 11.11pm on Fri. 29th June: '...and if you bite stab assault punch or kick immigration staff who remove you in the course of their job...' As you were insulting the Karim family in this comment then by implication you were saying that the Karim family have the mentality to do that. Or is this yet another example of you not even reading your own comments as well as not reading the Lancashire Telegraph?!
No are you thicko? It has happened ie the stabbing of an immigration official in Manchester when somebody was taken for deportation and occasionally asylumseekers do things like jump off buildings/burn themselves/set fire to their houses/commit suicide and anything to avoid being taken away to a detention centre and deported via aircraft or ferries;if all these people co-operated and went without fuss like the Karims did, then extreme force wouldn't be necessary to remove them. People who come and live here illegally deserve all the negativity and forceful treatment/removal they get if they try to evade deportation when all processes to legally keep them here have been exhausted and gone through and there is no other way to do so. But you Katherine are too lily livered and too dogooding to realise that!!!!!!!!!!

Katherine Parker, Nelson says...
1:40pm Tue 3 Jul 07

It would appear that I am not the ‘thicko’ Anthony implies when he is the one who is tarring the Karims’ with the same brush he is using to mouth off about the stereotypical view he has of asylum seekers. I have not at any point said that I think that all asylum seekers are like the Karims; I agree with Jack Wallhurst above that a large proportion of so called asylum seekers are nothing of the kind and they need to be deported but aren’t. I would be glad to get rid of them!
Could I also recommend to Anthony that he wash his mouth out with not only soap but bleach, to wash out the horrendous words that come out of it. And could he also utilise the one brain cell he apparently has and admit defeat in this argument. Thank you.

Anthony, Accrington says...
3:23pm Tue 3 Jul 07

Sorry Katherine but I refuse to apologise to you and will NOT show that I care to illegal asylumseekers/
immigrants and refugees because I don't(and I don't like them either;half of these people are troublecausers who refuse to speak english,break our laws and integrate and that is what I hate about many of them). If they come here illegally they deserve all they get and if they have exhausted all the usual channels of appeal and the Govt won't allow them to stay then co-operation is key,violence/protest
s etc by local supporters of these people do not make the case to stop here any better. Now I don't care if illegal asylumseekers who overstay their welcome are deported back to their homelands and have to face the consequences of violence or death;truth is,IF THEY COME IN ILLEGALLY THEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE HERE AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO STAY AT ALL. When australia wouldn't allow illegal asylumseekers into their country on a boat in their territorial waters the Aussies threatened to blow them out of the water and the asylumseekers response was to threaten to drown themselves. The asylumseekers were brought in put in detention centres and deported back and I'am glad Australia has the policy it does;if you don't speak english,and you don't follow our laws and traditions and cultures etc then you don't live here,simple as that. The UK and Europe needs to wake up smell the coffee and do similar things to these people because UK and Europe are a liberal soft-touch to asylumseekers/refuge
esand immigrants.

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Supporters of the Karim family, Coun Ann Kerrigan, mum Shakuhtla Samuel, Tina Fishwick and brother-in-law Farooq Khan are devastated The Karims

Supporters of the Karim family, Coun Ann Kerrigan, mum Shakuhtla Samuel, Tina Fishwick and brother-in-law Farooq Khan are devastated

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