East Lancs MPs demand early return of Parliament to debate Iraq crisis

British commandos in action near Basra during the Iraq war

British commandos in action near Basra during the Iraq war

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

EAST Lancashire MPs have called on the government to recall Parliament over the crisis in Iraq.

Conservative MPs Andrew Stephenson, Jake Berry and Nigel Evans have urged the Prime Minister to recall Parliament because of the ‘deteriorating situation’.

Blackburn MP Jack Straw said that there was a ‘strong and mounting case’ to debate the issue in Parliament.

It comes as David Cameron chaired a meeting of the government's Cobra emergency committee on the situation yesterday.

The UK has made a third round of aid drops to help the thousands fleeing Islamist militants across mountains.

Mr Stephenson, MP for Pendle, said: “I think the time is right to recall Parliament.

“I think that we should debate a range of foreign affairs issues such as Iraq but also the situation in Gaza and in Ukraine.

“A lot of people are concerned about events in Iraq and the time is probably right for a recall. It’s important particularly when we are hearing that military equipment is being sent to the country, albeit for humanitarian use, but these things can escalate very quickly.”

Jake Berry, MP for Rossendale and Darwen, said: “Parliament should be recalled so we can discuss the involvement of the RAF.

“We need to make sure that we hold the government to account and are aware of Britain’s involvement.”

Ribble Valley MP Mr Evans said on Twitter: “I don't think we can wait any longer to discuss events in the Middle East.

“I now believe it is time to recall Parliament — #thousandsslaughtered.”

However, some Labour MPs have said that they would be happy to go back, but fell short of a public call.

Gordon Birtwistle, who represents Burnley, said: “I suppose for the first time in my life I’m on the fence.

“If Parliament was recalled I would be happy to go back but I’m not calling for that to happen. We go back on September 1 and that’s only a couple of weeks away.

“If it was longer then I would be seriously calling for a recall.”

Graham Jones, MP for Haslingden and Hyndburn, said: “If Parliament if recalled then I’m quite happy with that.

“I would leave any call for a recall to the leader Ed Miliband.

“There are certainly a range of issues to discuss that have happened so far this summer.”

Mr Straw said: “I expect any decision from the government to be made in the next few days.

“I’m consulting with the shadow cabinet on this issue.”

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1:55pm Thu 14 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

strange - i thought birtwistle was libdem
strange - i thought birtwistle was libdem hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 1

2:12pm Thu 14 Aug 14

noddy57 says...

For a democratic country like the U K to stand by while children are being beheaded and whole families being buried alive by these so called Muslims who claim to love god well what l see is worse than what the Germans did to the Jews and from what have seen they are more like Satan,s disciples. The Real Islamic nation should unite and destroy this evil.
For a democratic country like the U K to stand by while children are being beheaded and whole families being buried alive by these so called Muslims who claim to love god well what l see is worse than what the Germans did to the Jews and from what have seen they are more like Satan,s disciples. The Real Islamic nation should unite and destroy this evil. noddy57
  • Score: 11

2:21pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TONY WALES says...

Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you. TONY WALES
  • Score: -5

2:47pm Thu 14 Aug 14

andy1 says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
strange - i thought birtwistle was libdem
He is but bows down to the Tories who are his real masters. He even calls them his honorable friends if any of them are honorable people. Jack Straw wants to keep his nose out of it. Its down to him and that idiot Blair there are these problems in the first place. These morons hijacked the Labour Party for their own agendas. Shame on you Straw.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: strange - i thought birtwistle was libdem[/p][/quote]He is but bows down to the Tories who are his real masters. He even calls them his honorable friends if any of them are honorable people. Jack Straw wants to keep his nose out of it. Its down to him and that idiot Blair there are these problems in the first place. These morons hijacked the Labour Party for their own agendas. Shame on you Straw. andy1
  • Score: 0

3:30pm Thu 14 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 5

4:40pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TONY WALES says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL TONY WALES
  • Score: -8

5:26pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Pegasus216 says...

Straw is a numpty, if he wasn't standing down he would not be doing this because of the Moslem vote, what a disgrace...as for the Tories, you have emasculated the armed forces and now you have no big stick to support your Foreign policy...Dave said there would be no more wars and that our overseas aid would buy us out of trouble...oh dear not another Cameron ****-up...and as for Milliband, see where your shameless grandstZnding has got you! what a plonker...
G
Straw is a numpty, if he wasn't standing down he would not be doing this because of the Moslem vote, what a disgrace...as for the Tories, you have emasculated the armed forces and now you have no big stick to support your Foreign policy...Dave said there would be no more wars and that our overseas aid would buy us out of trouble...oh dear not another Cameron ****-up...and as for Milliband, see where your shameless grandstZnding has got you! what a plonker... G Pegasus216
  • Score: -2

6:07pm Thu 14 Aug 14

sen c b l says...

TONY WALES wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation.
So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL[/p][/quote]Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation. So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors. sen c b l
  • Score: -2

7:29pm Thu 14 Aug 14

TONY WALES says...

sen c b l wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation.
So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.
Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same
What do you read by the way?
[quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL[/p][/quote]Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation. So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.[/p][/quote]Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same What do you read by the way? TONY WALES
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Thu 14 Aug 14

sen c b l says...

TONY WALES wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation.
So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.
Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same
What do you read by the way?
Well I won't be reading what you're reading that's for sure but engaging brain cells responsibly and reckoning where an active deceiver is at work convincing the likes of you to believe what they've filled the tabloids with hoping it would increase their salary.
Isn't these the tabloids that you and your chums memorised prior to the invasion of Afghanistan that the cave dwelling Taliban were sexually molesting and using rape to punish the locals! And actually the Americans who shot and killed Laden and would not exhibit his body to avoid an uprising! Or the denyience that no arms was being sent to the rebels in Syria!
Be fooled, but to be a complete...
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL[/p][/quote]Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation. So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.[/p][/quote]Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same What do you read by the way?[/p][/quote]Well I won't be reading what you're reading that's for sure but engaging brain cells responsibly and reckoning where an active deceiver is at work convincing the likes of you to believe what they've filled the tabloids with hoping it would increase their salary. Isn't these the tabloids that you and your chums memorised prior to the invasion of Afghanistan that the cave dwelling Taliban were sexually molesting and using rape to punish the locals! And actually the Americans who shot and killed Laden and would not exhibit his body to avoid an uprising! Or the denyience that no arms was being sent to the rebels in Syria! Be fooled, but to be a complete... sen c b l
  • Score: -6

9:34pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Excluded again says...

When the world stands aside and lets a genocide be committed, it is rarely the reaction of history to say 'we understand your selfish reasons for doing nothing'.

The Yazidi people in Iraq face a genocide by religious fascists who are happy to kill and murder anyone who does not follow their own militant Islamic sect. Britain should do its bit to prevent this genocide.

This has nothing to do with the situation in Gaza. The actions of the Israeli government in killing Christian and Muslim Palestinian civilians does not balance or cancel out ISIS killing Christians, Yazidis and Shia Muslims.
When the world stands aside and lets a genocide be committed, it is rarely the reaction of history to say 'we understand your selfish reasons for doing nothing'. The Yazidi people in Iraq face a genocide by religious fascists who are happy to kill and murder anyone who does not follow their own militant Islamic sect. Britain should do its bit to prevent this genocide. This has nothing to do with the situation in Gaza. The actions of the Israeli government in killing Christian and Muslim Palestinian civilians does not balance or cancel out ISIS killing Christians, Yazidis and Shia Muslims. Excluded again
  • Score: 9

12:26am Fri 15 Aug 14

Commenting says...

The silence from the Muslim usual suspects is deafening regarding the atrocities being committed in the name of their faith in Iraq. In truth Muslims will not criticise their "brothers" and to believe in moderate Muslims is like believing in Father Christmas.
The silence from the Muslim usual suspects is deafening regarding the atrocities being committed in the name of their faith in Iraq. In truth Muslims will not criticise their "brothers" and to believe in moderate Muslims is like believing in Father Christmas. Commenting
  • Score: 0

12:43am Fri 15 Aug 14

The Seagull has landed says...

sen c b l wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation.
So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.
Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same
What do you read by the way?
Well I won't be reading what you're reading that's for sure but engaging brain cells responsibly and reckoning where an active deceiver is at work convincing the likes of you to believe what they've filled the tabloids with hoping it would increase their salary.
Isn't these the tabloids that you and your chums memorised prior to the invasion of Afghanistan that the cave dwelling Taliban were sexually molesting and using rape to punish the locals! And actually the Americans who shot and killed Laden and would not exhibit his body to avoid an uprising! Or the denyience that no arms was being sent to the rebels in Syria!
Be fooled, but to be a complete...
Oh dear Sen, has your handler lost you again? He knows what happens when you get near the Internet.
[quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL[/p][/quote]Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation. So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.[/p][/quote]Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same What do you read by the way?[/p][/quote]Well I won't be reading what you're reading that's for sure but engaging brain cells responsibly and reckoning where an active deceiver is at work convincing the likes of you to believe what they've filled the tabloids with hoping it would increase their salary. Isn't these the tabloids that you and your chums memorised prior to the invasion of Afghanistan that the cave dwelling Taliban were sexually molesting and using rape to punish the locals! And actually the Americans who shot and killed Laden and would not exhibit his body to avoid an uprising! Or the denyience that no arms was being sent to the rebels in Syria! Be fooled, but to be a complete...[/p][/quote]Oh dear Sen, has your handler lost you again? He knows what happens when you get near the Internet. The Seagull has landed
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7:48am Fri 15 Aug 14

hasslem hasslem says...

TONY WALES wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
what utter nonsense - EVERYBODY IS NOT SUPPORTING ISRAEL, where do you get this guff from?
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL[/p][/quote]what utter nonsense - EVERYBODY IS NOT SUPPORTING ISRAEL, where do you get this guff from? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 4

11:49am Fri 15 Aug 14

sen c b l says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
Could be a good idea this.

Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.?
Or do they pretend everything is OK?
The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel.

Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza.
Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.
incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away.

you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.
The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel.

Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce.

The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves.

The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence.

When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself?
This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL
Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation.
So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.
Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same
What do you read by the way?
Well I won't be reading what you're reading that's for sure but engaging brain cells responsibly and reckoning where an active deceiver is at work convincing the likes of you to believe what they've filled the tabloids with hoping it would increase their salary.
Isn't these the tabloids that you and your chums memorised prior to the invasion of Afghanistan that the cave dwelling Taliban were sexually molesting and using rape to punish the locals! And actually the Americans who shot and killed Laden and would not exhibit his body to avoid an uprising! Or the denyience that no arms was being sent to the rebels in Syria!
Be fooled, but to be a complete...
Oh dear Sen, has your handler lost you again? He knows what happens when you get near the Internet.
Troll go fboff.
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: Could be a good idea this. Could it debate the reason the Muslim population of the U/K, do not seem to mention the killing of innocent people, and rape of women by the Islamiic State (IS) militants.? Or do they pretend everything is OK? The people being killed are not firing rockets, at anybody like the Hams are against Israel. Is it any wonder why the people of the U/K have little sympathy with the people in Gaza. Good luck to the people of Israel, we are all supporting you.[/p][/quote]incorrect - we are not all supporting israel. i certainly am not and as various people have said the disproportionate response from israel means western support for israel is draining away. you are quite correct about the lack of condemnation about the ISIS lot though.[/p][/quote]The difference is that the Gaza people can put an end to the rockets being fired at them from Israel. Simply by the act of stopping firing rockets at Israel, and entering peace talks, and trying to arrange a truce. The difference is the people being killed and raped by the Islamic State (IS) are FLEEING AND TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, ....without any means of defending themselves. The fact that HAMAS choose a more powerful enemy to attack is their own choice, and as such you face the consequence. When you remember how the Jewish people have been treated over the last few hundred years would you not defend yourself? This is the reason EVERYBODY IS NOW SUPPORTING ISRAEL[/p][/quote]Begin condemning ISIS by stating correct and factual crimes, if any, but purely fabricating in the hope it gains support is a failure from the word 'go'. WMD claims was also the work of the 'criminals' who wanted power over the oil fields and eventually cost BLiar his reputation. So Wales, don't know who your informants are or unless 'your' Shell club card points are under threat let's have facts if you are aware of any and refrain from depending on American /British media coverage whose sole aim is to continue lining the pockets of BP Oil directors.[/p][/quote]Sorry I have difficulty in reading Russian and Chinese newspapers, the letters are not the same What do you read by the way?[/p][/quote]Well I won't be reading what you're reading that's for sure but engaging brain cells responsibly and reckoning where an active deceiver is at work convincing the likes of you to believe what they've filled the tabloids with hoping it would increase their salary. Isn't these the tabloids that you and your chums memorised prior to the invasion of Afghanistan that the cave dwelling Taliban were sexually molesting and using rape to punish the locals! And actually the Americans who shot and killed Laden and would not exhibit his body to avoid an uprising! Or the denyience that no arms was being sent to the rebels in Syria! Be fooled, but to be a complete...[/p][/quote]Oh dear Sen, has your handler lost you again? He knows what happens when you get near the Internet.[/p][/quote]Troll go fboff. sen c b l
  • Score: 0

12:49pm Fri 15 Aug 14

abetterblackburn says...

Because of the harm caused to Blackburn as well as the escalating problems in the world today due to Jack Straw’s contributions during the invasion of Iraq anything he says any more should be ignored. He should step aside to enjoy his retirement and keep his judgements to himself.

That’s what having had a safe seat in Blackburn for so long has caused not only to Blackburn but the rest of the world as well. The only remedy would be to have a limit to the period of time anyone can hold a safe position as MP. That is the only way to combat such disastrous complacency!
Because of the harm caused to Blackburn as well as the escalating problems in the world today due to Jack Straw’s contributions during the invasion of Iraq anything he says any more should be ignored. He should step aside to enjoy his retirement and keep his judgements to himself. That’s what having had a safe seat in Blackburn for so long has caused not only to Blackburn but the rest of the world as well. The only remedy would be to have a limit to the period of time anyone can hold a safe position as MP. That is the only way to combat such disastrous complacency! abetterblackburn
  • Score: 3

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