My daughter will die without treatment, says desperate Blackburn mum

Jasmin with mum Gill

Jasmin with mum Gill

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Health Reporter

A DESPERATE mum has warned that her anorexic daughter ‘will die’ if she does not receive more help from the NHS.

One of Jasmin Hussain’s kidneys has almost been completely destroyed by the eating disorder, but she has been told she is currently too weak for a transplant.

Mum Gill Barlow said mental health officials have so far failed to arrange specialist care for her, which has resulted in repeated emergency admissions to general wards at the Royal Blackburn Hospital.

She said: “This has been going on about two years, and now we’re looking at the possibility she could die. She should be in an eating disorder unit with the right specialists giving her the attention she needs.

“We’ve been told she’ll definitely need dialysis and a kidney transplant, but she’ll need to be in a better physical state before that happens, and she can’t do that without more help.”

Jasmin, who lives with her mum in Ripon Street, Blackburn, has been under the care of the East Lancashire Eating Disorder Service, based at Daisyfield Mill, but this does not cater for patients with acute problems.

Gill, 40, added: “It all seems to be about money because the eating disorder service just aren’t equipped to deal with cases as complex as Jasmin’s, who is also bi-polar and has type 2 bulimia.

“I think they are starting to realise that she needs proper 24-hour care and they’re now trying to get her into the Priory Hospital in Preston, a specialist unit, but it’s been two years and we’re still waiting.

“There’s a real lack of knowledge about anorexia, especially when she’d admitted to the Royal Blackburn, where they never know what to do with her. I’ve heard consultants say that she should ‘just eat’, but it’s mental illness and it’s not that simple.”

Jasmin, a former pupil at Tauheedul Islam Girls' High School, is 5ft 5in tall and weighs six stone, giving her a Body Mass Index (BMI) of just 14, which is well below the recommended minimum of 18.5.

Her condition has become so severe that her stomach automatically repels food, and Gill said she had to ‘fight till she was blue in the face’ for the NHS to provide a peg-feed, which can be inserted through her stomach.

But when Jasmin’s mental state deteriorates she stops using the feed, which results in her being rushed to hospital with renal failure, due to dehydration and low potassium levels.

Shelley Perry, of Lancashire-based Breathe, a non-profit organisation which specialises in eating disorders, said: “It’s very difficult to get appropriate help on the NHS. This is partly due to funding, but also because commissioners view anorexia and bulimia as physcial health problems rather than mental illnesses. You’d think much more funding would be allocated because eating disorders have higher death rates than other psychiatric conditions.”

Blackburn with Darwen Clinical Commissioning Group said it could not respond fully in time for our deadline, despite being given more than 24 hours, but said the Eating Disorder Service will be a priority in its commissioning plans for 2015/16.

Lancashire Care NHS Foundation Trust, which actually runs the service, declined to comment on a specific case.

And the Royal Blackburn Hospital said that they had not received a complaint about Jasmin’s care.

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2:02pm Fri 8 Aug 14

blackburn-chick says...

The NHS seriously need to look at all of their mental health services and put some money down this avenue! I have had a problem and the help for mental issues just is not there you feel lost and have no one guiding you what to do right! I hope you get some proper support and care and getthe chance to move on for a healthy future,. good luck
The NHS seriously need to look at all of their mental health services and put some money down this avenue! I have had a problem and the help for mental issues just is not there you feel lost and have no one guiding you what to do right! I hope you get some proper support and care and getthe chance to move on for a healthy future,. good luck blackburn-chick
  • Score: 31

3:03pm Fri 8 Aug 14

woolywords says...

Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all....
I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take.
...
Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things.
...
Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy..
Pea and Ham soup!
It was her patent cure for everything..
from worms to ringworm..
scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly.
My Dad said, the mere threat of that;
made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago.
...
Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet.
Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches.
For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join...
You might create something... Thus save a life.
...
Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics.
See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..
Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all.... I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take. ... Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things. ... Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy.. Pea and Ham soup! It was her patent cure for everything.. from worms to ringworm.. scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly. My Dad said, the mere threat of that; made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago. ... Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet. Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches. For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join... You might create something... Thus save a life. ... Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics. See Dr Brian Cox, for more details.. woolywords
  • Score: -8

3:52pm Fri 8 Aug 14

woolywords says...

thanks for the minus vote..
may your gods save you, from such a thing as this..
...
confuse axion, with axiom?
all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is..
and
he whom saves a life..
...
be proud of your votes..
thanks for the minus vote.. may your gods save you, from such a thing as this.. ... confuse axion, with axiom? all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is.. and he whom saves a life.. ... be proud of your votes.. woolywords
  • Score: -11

4:06pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Cimbri says...

Which part of desperate Mother opens her heart to the media, in the hope of help, don't you get?
23 votes here, not a word of help nor solace.
How easy is it for you to do that?
How utterly uncaring of you, clueless clods of muck.
I've scraped better off my shoe - than you.
How fkn dare you?
At least- the very least- give her hope.
Not a big ask.
Wish her best and better.
not silent gnubnuts votes.
You disgust me.
Which part of desperate Mother opens her heart to the media, in the hope of help, don't you get? 23 votes here, not a word of help nor solace. How easy is it for you to do that? How utterly uncaring of you, clueless clods of muck. I've scraped better off my shoe - than you. How fkn dare you? At least- the very least- give her hope. Not a big ask. Wish her best and better. not silent gnubnuts votes. You disgust me. Cimbri
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Fri 8 Aug 14

TONY WALES says...

woolywords wrote:
Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all....
I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take.
...
Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things.
...
Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy..
Pea and Ham soup!
It was her patent cure for everything..
from worms to ringworm..
scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly.
My Dad said, the mere threat of that;
made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago.
...
Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet.
Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches.
For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join...
You might create something... Thus save a life.
...
Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics.
See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..
Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck.

One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out .

You are not supposed to eat ham and pork.

Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all.... I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take. ... Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things. ... Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy.. Pea and Ham soup! It was her patent cure for everything.. from worms to ringworm.. scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly. My Dad said, the mere threat of that; made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago. ... Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet. Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches. For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join... You might create something... Thus save a life. ... Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics. See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..[/p][/quote]Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck. One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out . You are not supposed to eat ham and pork. Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us...... TONY WALES
  • Score: -9

5:22pm Fri 8 Aug 14

ikap22 says...

TONY WALES wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all....
I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take.
...
Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things.
...
Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy..
Pea and Ham soup!
It was her patent cure for everything..
from worms to ringworm..
scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly.
My Dad said, the mere threat of that;
made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago.
...
Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet.
Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches.
For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join...
You might create something... Thus save a life.
...
Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics.
See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..
Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck.

One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out .

You are not supposed to eat ham and pork.

Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......
Take it they released you early!!
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all.... I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take. ... Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things. ... Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy.. Pea and Ham soup! It was her patent cure for everything.. from worms to ringworm.. scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly. My Dad said, the mere threat of that; made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago. ... Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet. Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches. For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join... You might create something... Thus save a life. ... Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics. See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..[/p][/quote]Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck. One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out . You are not supposed to eat ham and pork. Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......[/p][/quote]Take it they released you early!! ikap22
  • Score: 8

5:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

billy32 says...

If she is as bad as her mother says she should get her sectioned to get the help that she needs. Before it's too late
If she is as bad as her mother says she should get her sectioned to get the help that she needs. Before it's too late billy32
  • Score: 19

6:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

DoggydogNo1 says...

ikap22 wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all....
I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take.
...
Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things.
...
Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy..
Pea and Ham soup!
It was her patent cure for everything..
from worms to ringworm..
scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly.
My Dad said, the mere threat of that;
made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago.
...
Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet.
Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches.
For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join...
You might create something... Thus save a life.
...
Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics.
See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..
Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck.

One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out .

You are not supposed to eat ham and pork.

Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......
Take it they released you early!!
And wots your excuse then? brain dead?
[quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all.... I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take. ... Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things. ... Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy.. Pea and Ham soup! It was her patent cure for everything.. from worms to ringworm.. scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly. My Dad said, the mere threat of that; made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago. ... Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet. Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches. For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join... You might create something... Thus save a life. ... Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics. See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..[/p][/quote]Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck. One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out . You are not supposed to eat ham and pork. Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......[/p][/quote]Take it they released you early!![/p][/quote]And wots your excuse then? brain dead? DoggydogNo1
  • Score: -3

6:42pm Fri 8 Aug 14

ikap22 says...

DoggydogNo1 wrote:
ikap22 wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
woolywords wrote:
Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all....
I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take.
...
Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things.
...
Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy..
Pea and Ham soup!
It was her patent cure for everything..
from worms to ringworm..
scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly.
My Dad said, the mere threat of that;
made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago.
...
Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet.
Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches.
For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join...
You might create something... Thus save a life.
...
Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics.
See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..
Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck.

One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out .

You are not supposed to eat ham and pork.

Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......
Take it they released you early!!
And wots your excuse then? brain dead?
****!! You been released as well.
[quote][p][bold]DoggydogNo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ikap22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: Whilst I know a little about Anorexia Nervosa, having had a child do that but when it's compounded with type 2 Bulimia, and Bi-polar disorder; what I know, goes out of the window.. Bathtub, baby and all.... I honestly and sincerely hope that, by exposing the failings in this hospital, in their shameful way of treating your daughters condition, someone out there, may make you aware of another path to take. ... Since my little 'uns condition was treated with great success, might I venture to suggest, hypnotherapy. Which may seem like a bit of a quack remedy but what they heck; if it has only partial success in making her more accepting of her conventional therapy, it's a little battle that is won, in the grand scheme of things. ... Try anything and everything, to save her from my Mum's remedy.. Pea and Ham soup! It was her patent cure for everything.. from worms to ringworm.. scabies to scurvy.. it cures all, allegedly. My Dad said, the mere threat of that; made him go to work, when nearly dead with 'flu, a lot of years ago. ... Thankfully, since those days, we've had Black and White TV, telephones in every other home, and best of all, the Internet. Reach out, to the myriad of groups, out there; either on social media or in direct searches. For, just as rubbing my gums while teething, gave me a taste for whisky.. Out there, in that collective of mass; if you and another Axion join... You might create something... Thus save a life. ... Axion - my allegory, for small things, not noted for coalescing in Physics. See Dr Brian Cox, for more details..[/p][/quote]Don't touch the Pea and Ham soup chuck. One spoonful and the Iman will kick you out . You are not supposed to eat ham and pork. Better have a cup a soup like the rest of us......[/p][/quote]Take it they released you early!![/p][/quote]And wots your excuse then? brain dead?[/p][/quote]****!! You been released as well. ikap22
  • Score: 3

7:46pm Fri 8 Aug 14

katypri says...

This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL
when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity
This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity katypri
  • Score: -2

3:32pm Sat 9 Aug 14

TONY WALES says...

katypri wrote:
This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL
when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity
The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit.
Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited.
How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution?
How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING.
The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home.

Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.?

It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year.
How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services?

Spain and Eire and some other countries do.
It's only a matter of time before we do.
[quote][p][bold]katypri[/bold] wrote: This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity[/p][/quote]The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit. Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited. How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution? How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING. The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home. Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.? It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year. How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services? Spain and Eire and some other countries do. It's only a matter of time before we do. TONY WALES
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Sun 10 Aug 14

255.255.255.0 says...

TONY WALES wrote:
katypri wrote:
This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL
when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity
The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit.
Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited.
How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution?
How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING.
The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home.

Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.?

It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year.
How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services?

Spain and Eire and some other countries do.
It's only a matter of time before we do.
And how many so called British white people are also rinsing the system openly? Always easy to blame the minority. The problems are in all communities. Benefit st and trouble on the estate are just tip of the icebergs of what's going on. Ohhh and most of them are white British in these programmes.
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]katypri[/bold] wrote: This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity[/p][/quote]The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit. Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited. How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution? How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING. The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home. Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.? It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year. How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services? Spain and Eire and some other countries do. It's only a matter of time before we do.[/p][/quote]And how many so called British white people are also rinsing the system openly? Always easy to blame the minority. The problems are in all communities. Benefit st and trouble on the estate are just tip of the icebergs of what's going on. Ohhh and most of them are white British in these programmes. 255.255.255.0
  • Score: 0

4:28pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ikap22 says...

255.255.255.0 wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
katypri wrote:
This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL
when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity
The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit.
Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited.
How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution?
How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING.
The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home.

Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.?

It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year.
How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services?

Spain and Eire and some other countries do.
It's only a matter of time before we do.
And how many so called British white people are also rinsing the system openly? Always easy to blame the minority. The problems are in all communities. Benefit st and trouble on the estate are just tip of the icebergs of what's going on. Ohhh and most of them are white British in these programmes.
You can't blame the so called indigenous community, they are saint's! They don't sponge off the state, they don't commit any crimes, they don't abuse little children, they pure as wool!
[quote][p][bold]255.255.255.0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]katypri[/bold] wrote: This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity[/p][/quote]The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit. Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited. How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution? How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING. The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home. Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.? It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year. How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services? Spain and Eire and some other countries do. It's only a matter of time before we do.[/p][/quote]And how many so called British white people are also rinsing the system openly? Always easy to blame the minority. The problems are in all communities. Benefit st and trouble on the estate are just tip of the icebergs of what's going on. Ohhh and most of them are white British in these programmes.[/p][/quote]You can't blame the so called indigenous community, they are saint's! They don't sponge off the state, they don't commit any crimes, they don't abuse little children, they pure as wool! ikap22
  • Score: -4

6:03pm Sun 10 Aug 14

moh says...

255.255.255.0 wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
katypri wrote:
This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL
when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity
The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit.
Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited.
How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution?
How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING.
The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home.

Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.?

It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year.
How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services?

Spain and Eire and some other countries do.
It's only a matter of time before we do.
And how many so called British white people are also rinsing the system openly? Always easy to blame the minority. The problems are in all communities. Benefit st and trouble on the estate are just tip of the icebergs of what's going on. Ohhh and most of them are white British in these programmes.
went to visit someone in hospital recently and many nurses, doctors and ancillary staff appeared to be non-white. HR dept needs sorting if all these employees are not paying NI contributions and income tax.
[quote][p][bold]255.255.255.0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]katypri[/bold] wrote: This young lady needs help while my son is being forced to go to a Private Funded Rehab although in hospital at the moment he has unsupervised leave and has for the last 6 week he has a home and family to come home to where he has been with mental health issues for the last 15 years, I am fighting for an NHS rehab for him but no chance they say 18 month to 2 year in locked rehab weird really as he is walking the hospital grounds as I write the cost for the 2 years in a Blackburn unit £300,000 plus and they say 18/24 months and he isnt even their yet so how do they know how long someone is staying in hospital he isnt a prisoner and never has been, as a company would you be in a rush to get them well and get them home I dont think so IT IS IMMORAL when people like this young lady cannot get help NHS have money to burn write now to CCG and FUNDING dept to express your concerns about buying and selling people as a commodity[/p][/quote]The money which our NHS has not a bottomless pit. Sad as this case is, as long as people misuse (not in this case), the NHS, money available is limited. How many people living in this country are making full use of the NHS and never paid a single NI contribution? How many Asian and African people are fetching brides/husbands into this country, and produce 6 or 7 kids. You may be lucky if the head of the home pays any NI contribution. But those kids and parents will get the full benefits of the NHS without paying ANYTHING. The wife will probably never work just produce kids and stay at home. Visitors from overseas so call "Health Tourists" may get a bill but how much do these people ever pay.? It cannot go on for ever, the hospitals owe millions of pounds ,and the service is getting worse every year. How long will we be before the system makes people pay for some health services? Spain and Eire and some other countries do. It's only a matter of time before we do.[/p][/quote]And how many so called British white people are also rinsing the system openly? Always easy to blame the minority. The problems are in all communities. Benefit st and trouble on the estate are just tip of the icebergs of what's going on. Ohhh and most of them are white British in these programmes.[/p][/quote]went to visit someone in hospital recently and many nurses, doctors and ancillary staff appeared to be non-white. HR dept needs sorting if all these employees are not paying NI contributions and income tax. moh
  • Score: 3

10:19am Mon 11 Aug 14

clou-d says...

My daughter was also under the care of east lancs eating disorder service. She was under them for 18 months and in that time lost 30kg. Her mental health deteriorated rapidly, depression set in and she ended up in hospital for 5 weeks with malnutrition. Despite rapid deterioration and community care obviously not working she was refused hers and ours request to be steeped up to more intensive care such as day care. The
excuse was that East lancs did not provide that and her bmi wasnt low enough for
referal to priory. NICE guidelines state that
bmi should not be the sole indicator for
stepping up treatment but that weight loss
and mental health plus the time already
spent in community should be taken into
account. When this was mentioned it was
ignored. The NHS policy is that referal to private care is when bmi hits 13.5 which is disgusting. We and our daughter were told that it was now a waiting game and once her bmi hit that point they should refer, to someone with eating disorder that is like giving them a target to aim for. We fought the decision and after endless phonecalls and complaints we finally got the referal to daycare at the priory which was desperately needed. The lack of funding and kknowledge about eating disorders even amongst so called professionals is shocking. There is no individual care and the variation in services provided in different areas is wrong. In the long run more lives are put at risk, lives are put on hold and as parents/carers you are ignored and no support given. I really hope your daughter receives the care needed and in a place that can provide it for her. The care of a patient should not have a price placed on it especially when the service/area you are in cannot provide the care needed. The whole mental health sector needs funding as the services provided are nowhere near adequate for the demand.
My daughter was also under the care of east lancs eating disorder service. She was under them for 18 months and in that time lost 30kg. Her mental health deteriorated rapidly, depression set in and she ended up in hospital for 5 weeks with malnutrition. Despite rapid deterioration and community care obviously not working she was refused hers and ours request to be steeped up to more intensive care such as day care. The excuse was that East lancs did not provide that and her bmi wasnt low enough for referal to priory. NICE guidelines state that bmi should not be the sole indicator for stepping up treatment but that weight loss and mental health plus the time already spent in community should be taken into account. When this was mentioned it was ignored. The NHS policy is that referal to private care is when bmi hits 13.5 which is disgusting. We and our daughter were told that it was now a waiting game and once her bmi hit that point they should refer, to someone with eating disorder that is like giving them a target to aim for. We fought the decision and after endless phonecalls and complaints we finally got the referal to daycare at the priory which was desperately needed. The lack of funding and kknowledge about eating disorders even amongst so called professionals is shocking. There is no individual care and the variation in services provided in different areas is wrong. In the long run more lives are put at risk, lives are put on hold and as parents/carers you are ignored and no support given. I really hope your daughter receives the care needed and in a place that can provide it for her. The care of a patient should not have a price placed on it especially when the service/area you are in cannot provide the care needed. The whole mental health sector needs funding as the services provided are nowhere near adequate for the demand. clou-d
  • Score: 5

10:53am Tue 26 Aug 14

Jenfer19 says...

This is outrageous and sadly typical of the state of the UK's mental health services. It sounds like a chicken and egg situation but in fact what this girl needs, as well as a kidney transplant, is food in a specialised setting, such as The Priory. This clearly needs to happen now.

Also, using BMI as a measure is fine to a point, but it isn't ideal. Saying that 18.5 is the minimum of a 'safe' range is ridiculous. When you have an ED (eating disorder), the minimum should be 21 for any hope of recovery. The UK's health providers are very behind the times when it comes to providing adequate care for children and adults with EDs - I know through bitter experience of getting help for my daughter.

I hope that the mother can get the support she needs, too. It is a devastatingly hard and lonely journey. There are lots of support groups online. I would list them here but frankly, the quality of the comments above make me worry as to what whackos would then try to join. I will endeavour to speak to the journalist himself to help this poor woman and her daughter, if I possibly can.
This is outrageous and sadly typical of the state of the UK's mental health services. It sounds like a chicken and egg situation but in fact what this girl needs, as well as a kidney transplant, is food in a specialised setting, such as The Priory. This clearly needs to happen now. Also, using BMI as a measure is fine to a point, but it isn't ideal. Saying that 18.5 is the minimum of a 'safe' range is ridiculous. When you have an ED (eating disorder), the minimum should be 21 for any hope of recovery. The UK's health providers are very behind the times when it comes to providing adequate care for children and adults with EDs - I know through bitter experience of getting help for my daughter. I hope that the mother can get the support she needs, too. It is a devastatingly hard and lonely journey. There are lots of support groups online. I would list them here but frankly, the quality of the comments above make me worry as to what whackos would then try to join. I will endeavour to speak to the journalist himself to help this poor woman and her daughter, if I possibly can. Jenfer19
  • Score: 0

10:55am Tue 26 Aug 14

Jenfer19 says...

billy32 wrote:
If she is as bad as her mother says she should get her sectioned to get the help that she needs. Before it's too late
Actually I agree - sectioning would help.
[quote][p][bold]billy32[/bold] wrote: If she is as bad as her mother says she should get her sectioned to get the help that she needs. Before it's too late[/p][/quote]Actually I agree - sectioning would help. Jenfer19
  • Score: 0

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