Road safety call after teen death in Hapton

Police corden off the canal bridge in Manchester Road

Police corden off the canal bridge in Manchester Road

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CALLS have been made to improve safety along a road where teenager Estelle Thompson died in an accident.

The chair of Hapton Parish Council has called for static speed cameras or more police enforcement to be implemented near the canal bridge in Manchester Road, near to where Estelle, 17, who was a front-seat passenger in a Ford Ka, died on Sunday.

Coun Tim Birbeck said he approached Lancashire County Council and the police in 2012 requesting traffic calming measures for the area, but was told the number of accidents and low level of traffic meant the expense couldn’t be justified.

He said: “I think speed cameras are just used to make money, but we need traffic calming measures there to slow some people down because it’s a hotspot for accidents.

“A week before the terrible accident that happened on Sunday, there was another one where somebody went over the canal bridge and crashed.

“It’s a bad humpback bridge, and if you go over it at any speed, your stomach jumps, you lift off the ground and drift over to one side and into the wall or the trees.

“It’s so sad that this has happened to the Thompson family and I send my condolences to them. We should do everything we can to prevent a tragedy like this happening again.”

Oliver Starkey, head of public realm for Burnley, said: “We were very sorry to hear about this tragic accident.

“We will consider the police report when it is available, to see if anything could reasonably be done to prevent a similar accident in the future.”

An 18-year-old man has been released on bail after he was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.

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6:12pm Thu 24 Jul 14

mys says...

Sorry for this young girls life being taken so tragically but I'll say it again,it's not the roads that are dangerous it's the idiotic looney drivers that shouldn't be driving,I was in town on Tuesday and there was an idiot on little Blackburn rd driving at speed up and down it reving up like a prat,if anyone elderly was crossing that rd they wouldn't have stood a chance.
Sorry for this young girls life being taken so tragically but I'll say it again,it's not the roads that are dangerous it's the idiotic looney drivers that shouldn't be driving,I was in town on Tuesday and there was an idiot on little Blackburn rd driving at speed up and down it reving up like a prat,if anyone elderly was crossing that rd they wouldn't have stood a chance. mys
  • Score: 20

9:11pm Thu 24 Jul 14

HarryBosch says...

My sincere condolences go out to Estelle's family and friends. This was truly a tragic incident costing a totally innocent young girls life.
However, I echo the thoughts of the above posters - there is no such thing as a dangerous road, only dangerous drivers. Whilst it would be unwise to speculate on the cause of this particular incident, firstly, because the driver has yet to be dealt with at court and secondly because the results of any investigation have not yet been released, anybody who has ever driven on that particular stretch of road will be aware of the risks of excess speed. That has been alluded to above. ALL roads must be driven with respect. Failure to do so results in tragic incidents such as this. I suspect that the LT, as usual, have gone trawling the local councillors looking for the quote that they ultimately got ie "calls for improved road safety measures". My challenge to the LT once again is why not contact the Driving Standards Agency and ask them why so many young drivers are able to pass their test when they are ultimately not qualified? Should the driving test be revamped to take account of the number of young drivers involved in accidents in the first couple of years after their tests? Should we introduce periodic driving tests?
Trawl enough councillors and you will always get the story you want. That's the lazy journalism way.
My sincere condolences go out to Estelle's family and friends. This was truly a tragic incident costing a totally innocent young girls life. However, I echo the thoughts of the above posters - there is no such thing as a dangerous road, only dangerous drivers. Whilst it would be unwise to speculate on the cause of this particular incident, firstly, because the driver has yet to be dealt with at court and secondly because the results of any investigation have not yet been released, anybody who has ever driven on that particular stretch of road will be aware of the risks of excess speed. That has been alluded to above. ALL roads must be driven with respect. Failure to do so results in tragic incidents such as this. I suspect that the LT, as usual, have gone trawling the local councillors looking for the quote that they ultimately got ie "calls for improved road safety measures". My challenge to the LT once again is why not contact the Driving Standards Agency and ask them why so many young drivers are able to pass their test when they are ultimately not qualified? Should the driving test be revamped to take account of the number of young drivers involved in accidents in the first couple of years after their tests? Should we introduce periodic driving tests? Trawl enough councillors and you will always get the story you want. That's the lazy journalism way. HarryBosch
  • Score: 5

10:30pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Mikeee47 says...

Simon1981 wrote:
What if the next knob heads crashes into a member of your family coming the other way? Think about it.
Doesn't make it a dangerous road though, does it?
[quote][p][bold]Simon1981[/bold] wrote: What if the next knob heads crashes into a member of your family coming the other way? Think about it.[/p][/quote]Doesn't make it a dangerous road though, does it? Mikeee47
  • Score: 2

10:47pm Thu 24 Jul 14

woolywords says...

Speed cameras?
Is he having a giraffe?
He should be asking, how many of the current speed cameras are both working and effective, then throw a wobbler, when he finds out the truth.
...
I live in Blackburn, where a local speed advisory sign is used a speed check on outrageous driving.
Speed limit, 20mph.
Regularly seen that sign reading over 80mph..
and the Police?
There's one hobby bobby turns up at the community meetings;
as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
...
Mobile speed cameras?
Don't do nights, nor weekends.
And Mo Bateson wants me to ride a bike around here?
...
Tell you what to do, turn all the traffic lights off, cancel the speed limits,
after Friday teatime and let them all kill each other.
To make the world a better place.
As you've neither the interest, nor manpower, to enforce the current laws.
Oh, there's no such thing as whiplash, after 5pm, either.
Ambulances will only be available for those in labour, dead or dying.
Carry your own fire equipment, as Trumpton is busy, doing a crossword.
For all other injuries, phone your GP.
See you on Monday, you muppet!
Speed cameras? Is he having a giraffe? He should be asking, how many of the current speed cameras are both working and effective, then throw a wobbler, when he finds out the truth. ... I live in Blackburn, where a local speed advisory sign is used a speed check on outrageous driving. Speed limit, 20mph. Regularly seen that sign reading over 80mph.. and the Police? There's one hobby bobby turns up at the community meetings; as much use as a chocolate fireguard. ... Mobile speed cameras? Don't do nights, nor weekends. And Mo Bateson wants me to ride a bike around here? ... Tell you what to do, turn all the traffic lights off, cancel the speed limits, after Friday teatime and let them all kill each other. To make the world a better place. As you've neither the interest, nor manpower, to enforce the current laws. Oh, there's no such thing as whiplash, after 5pm, either. Ambulances will only be available for those in labour, dead or dying. Carry your own fire equipment, as Trumpton is busy, doing a crossword. For all other injuries, phone your GP. See you on Monday, you muppet! woolywords
  • Score: 1

10:47pm Thu 24 Jul 14

The Seagull has landed says...

Simon1981 wrote:
What if the next knob heads crashes into a member of your family coming the other way? Think about it.
You hit the nail on the head there. "What if the next knobhead crashes into a member of your family coming other way? The knobhead causes the crash not the road.
Thousand every week use that road and manage to drive on it without causing a collision.
[quote][p][bold]Simon1981[/bold] wrote: What if the next knob heads crashes into a member of your family coming the other way? Think about it.[/p][/quote]You hit the nail on the head there. "What if the next knobhead crashes into a member of your family coming other way? The knobhead causes the crash not the road. Thousand every week use that road and manage to drive on it without causing a collision. The Seagull has landed
  • Score: 6

9:48am Fri 25 Jul 14

GracesDad says...

Typical knee jerk stuff again in Lancashire.

A girl jumps off a car park roof - local response, lets shut the car park.

A girl dies in a car crash - local response, lets put a speed camera in position where the accident happened.

WTF is wrong with people these days? Is nobody prepared to take responsibility when people do stupid things that lead to death?

The fact is, this accident happened because the driver lost control of his car. Nobody else was involved! I agree that he should face the legal consequences of being in charge of a vehicle that somebody died in unless it can be proven that the vehicle developed a fault that caused the accident.
Typical knee jerk stuff again in Lancashire. A girl jumps off a car park roof - local response, lets shut the car park. A girl dies in a car crash - local response, lets put a speed camera in position where the accident happened. WTF is wrong with people these days? Is nobody prepared to take responsibility when people do stupid things that lead to death? The fact is, this accident happened because the driver lost control of his car. Nobody else was involved! I agree that he should face the legal consequences of being in charge of a vehicle that somebody died in unless it can be proven that the vehicle developed a fault that caused the accident. GracesDad
  • Score: 8

3:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

keishaleighh says...

The Seagull has landed wrote:
keishaleighh wrote:
Yes the driver was being dangerous but obviously all roads are a little dangerous to have caused the crashes. Theyre putting speed cameras to stop what's happened to our family happening to anyone else's family, they should have been put there years ago in my opinion.
Have you read what you just posted?
"all roads are a little dangerous to have caused the crashes". I'm sorry but that's just nonsene. How many drivers use that section of road every day and how many collisions are there every day? Driver error is the main cause of collisions on Britain's roads.
What good will a speed camera do on the road? People who use it regularly, as on most roads simply slow down then speed up after they've passed it.
The risk of driving- there's always going to be a risk of a a crash. What about when the roads icy? Its dangerous road.
These comments are so disrespectful. Theyre trying to make it safer so other people don't have to go through the pain of losing someone In there family, its simple logic
[quote][p][bold]The Seagull has landed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keishaleighh[/bold] wrote: Yes the driver was being dangerous but obviously all roads are a little dangerous to have caused the crashes. Theyre putting speed cameras to stop what's happened to our family happening to anyone else's family, they should have been put there years ago in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Have you read what you just posted? "all roads are a little dangerous to have caused the crashes". I'm sorry but that's just nonsene. How many drivers use that section of road every day and how many collisions are there every day? Driver error is the main cause of collisions on Britain's roads. What good will a speed camera do on the road? People who use it regularly, as on most roads simply slow down then speed up after they've passed it.[/p][/quote]The risk of driving- there's always going to be a risk of a a crash. What about when the roads icy? Its dangerous road. These comments are so disrespectful. Theyre trying to make it safer so other people don't have to go through the pain of losing someone In there family, its simple logic keishaleighh
  • Score: -3

9:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

rudis_dad says...

@keishaleighh

Simple question - how did the road cause the accident?

Simple answer - it didn't. The road is an inanimate object (look up "inanimate" in a dictionary). It is not a sentient being (look up "sentient").

The simple fact of the matter is that, unless as has already been stated the car developed a serious fault which caused the driver to lose control, the accident happened because he was driving inappropriately.

As for what happens if the road is icy - again, that's very simple. You slow down; you back off the vehicle in front; and you cadence brake in an emergency, but then you won't know what cadence braking is, will you? Well I'll tell you what it is - it's a braking technique used by drivers who know what they're doing to slow down in slippery conditions whilst still being able to steer. That's because, as every driver knows (don't you?) it's impossible to steer a skidding wheel.

In 25 years of driving and riding motorcycles, on all types of road surfaces all over Britain and Europe, in all sorts of conditions from 35 degree heat to white-out blizzards, I have never once been involved in an accident that was my fault. Perhaps it's because somehow, by some miracle I've managed to avoid all the "dangerous" roads in Europe (although quite what the Stelvio Pass between Italy and Switzerland could be classed as I don't know). Or perhaps it's because I maintain my vehicles in a roadworthy condition, and I know what I'm doing. Or it could just be sheer luck...
@keishaleighh Simple question - how did the road cause the accident? Simple answer - it didn't. The road is an inanimate object (look up "inanimate" in a dictionary). It is not a sentient being (look up "sentient"). The simple fact of the matter is that, unless as has already been stated the car developed a serious fault which caused the driver to lose control, the accident happened because he was driving inappropriately. As for what happens if the road is icy - again, that's very simple. You slow down; you back off the vehicle in front; and you cadence brake in an emergency, but then you won't know what cadence braking is, will you? Well I'll tell you what it is - it's a braking technique used by drivers who know what they're doing to slow down in slippery conditions whilst still being able to steer. That's because, as every driver knows (don't you?) it's impossible to steer a skidding wheel. In 25 years of driving and riding motorcycles, on all types of road surfaces all over Britain and Europe, in all sorts of conditions from 35 degree heat to white-out blizzards, I have never once been involved in an accident that was my fault. Perhaps it's because somehow, by some miracle I've managed to avoid all the "dangerous" roads in Europe (although quite what the Stelvio Pass between Italy and Switzerland could be classed as I don't know). Or perhaps it's because I maintain my vehicles in a roadworthy condition, and I know what I'm doing. Or it could just be sheer luck... rudis_dad
  • Score: 3

11:36am Wed 30 Jul 14

sophiered says...

rudis_dad wrote:
@keishaleighh

Simple question - how did the road cause the accident?

Simple answer - it didn't. The road is an inanimate object (look up "inanimate" in a dictionary). It is not a sentient being (look up "sentient").

The simple fact of the matter is that, unless as has already been stated the car developed a serious fault which caused the driver to lose control, the accident happened because he was driving inappropriately.

As for what happens if the road is icy - again, that's very simple. You slow down; you back off the vehicle in front; and you cadence brake in an emergency, but then you won't know what cadence braking is, will you? Well I'll tell you what it is - it's a braking technique used by drivers who know what they're doing to slow down in slippery conditions whilst still being able to steer. That's because, as every driver knows (don't you?) it's impossible to steer a skidding wheel.

In 25 years of driving and riding motorcycles, on all types of road surfaces all over Britain and Europe, in all sorts of conditions from 35 degree heat to white-out blizzards, I have never once been involved in an accident that was my fault. Perhaps it's because somehow, by some miracle I've managed to avoid all the "dangerous" roads in Europe (although quite what the Stelvio Pass between Italy and Switzerland could be classed as I don't know). Or perhaps it's because I maintain my vehicles in a roadworthy condition, and I know what I'm doing. Or it could just be sheer luck...
yes you do come across as a clever dick high above us average folk
[quote][p][bold]rudis_dad[/bold] wrote: @keishaleighh Simple question - how did the road cause the accident? Simple answer - it didn't. The road is an inanimate object (look up "inanimate" in a dictionary). It is not a sentient being (look up "sentient"). The simple fact of the matter is that, unless as has already been stated the car developed a serious fault which caused the driver to lose control, the accident happened because he was driving inappropriately. As for what happens if the road is icy - again, that's very simple. You slow down; you back off the vehicle in front; and you cadence brake in an emergency, but then you won't know what cadence braking is, will you? Well I'll tell you what it is - it's a braking technique used by drivers who know what they're doing to slow down in slippery conditions whilst still being able to steer. That's because, as every driver knows (don't you?) it's impossible to steer a skidding wheel. In 25 years of driving and riding motorcycles, on all types of road surfaces all over Britain and Europe, in all sorts of conditions from 35 degree heat to white-out blizzards, I have never once been involved in an accident that was my fault. Perhaps it's because somehow, by some miracle I've managed to avoid all the "dangerous" roads in Europe (although quite what the Stelvio Pass between Italy and Switzerland could be classed as I don't know). Or perhaps it's because I maintain my vehicles in a roadworthy condition, and I know what I'm doing. Or it could just be sheer luck...[/p][/quote]yes you do come across as a clever dick high above us average folk sophiered
  • Score: 1

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