'Boris bikes' wheel their way to Blackburn

'Boris bikes' wheel their way to Blackburn

Karya Worden tried one of the bikes

Scheme pioneer Boris Johnson

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

BLACKBURN cyclists can now follow the example of London Mayor Boris Johnson and hire a community pushbike to get around the town.

Replicating the successful cycle schemes of Amsterdam, Paris and London, travellers can rent one of 10 new bikes on offer at Blackburn railway station.

Residents need to register on the ‘bike and go’ website and pay an annual subscription of £10, which allows them to hire bikes from any of the 50 participating stations in the UK.

The green scheme hopes to encourage those entering the town via train to then travel to their destination using the bikes, reducing carbon emissions and promoting exercise.

Launched in Blackburn around six weeks ago, the bikes were praised by those waiting on the platform yesterday.

Sharon Barnard, landlady of the Moorgate Arms in Livesey Branch Road, said: “I think it’s definitely a good idea, although, I don’t know if I could ride one myself.

“They have a bike lock on so you can lock them up when you’ve got to where you’re going and that’s a good thing — otherwise, they’d be getting nicked left, right and centre.”

21-year-old Karya Worden, who has just finished a degree in Events Management, said: “I would definitely think about using something like this.

“I know they have them in London and Barcelona and they seem to work really well there. It’s a good thing for Blackburn to get involved in.”

Morgan Redmayne, a father and joiner from Darwen, said: “It’s probably not for me but I know that my daughters would be up for it.

“They’d be interested in stuff like this and I think it’s a good idea to have it on offer. “It’s like Amsterdam or something.”

After paying the annual fee, cyclists then need to collect a key for a bike from the ticket office, where they will be charged £3.80 to hire it for 24 hours.

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6:44pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Positive_Is_Compulsory says...

Great idea to encourage healthier travel around the town, there are far too many cars on our roads, the majority of them with only one person in each car.

Cycling should be a hassle free way to travel without worrying about parking or traffic jams, I hope this initiative will get more cars off the road.
Great idea to encourage healthier travel around the town, there are far too many cars on our roads, the majority of them with only one person in each car. Cycling should be a hassle free way to travel without worrying about parking or traffic jams, I hope this initiative will get more cars off the road. Positive_Is_Compulsory
  • Score: 20

7:18pm Thu 12 Jun 14

burner says...

A foolish and ill-advised scheme - how dumb is it to offer a bike to absolutely anyone ? They will be a danger in pedestrianised Blackburn . . to themselves and others.
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\Good point about unsuitability of the terrain here once you leave the town centre.
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I'm OK with regular, trained and thoughtful cyclists but this . . . UNSAFE !!!!!!!
A foolish and ill-advised scheme - how dumb is it to offer a bike to absolutely anyone ? They will be a danger in pedestrianised Blackburn . . to themselves and others. . \Good point about unsuitability of the terrain here once you leave the town centre. . I'm OK with regular, trained and thoughtful cyclists but this . . . UNSAFE !!!!!!! burner
  • Score: 15

7:37pm Thu 12 Jun 14

kingbilly says...

get your arse to blackburn borris,see how long it is before you get knocked of your bike,by a taxi
get your arse to blackburn borris,see how long it is before you get knocked of your bike,by a taxi kingbilly
  • Score: 17

7:46pm Thu 12 Jun 14

M.DANNY says...

Bikes for Blackburn, a joke a small town so compact ? Who want to put ten shopping bags on a bike then ride off to bus station or train station.
I will always come by car ,park it on Mall shopping centre car park and get down the lifts and up with the lift with ten shopping bags to the car park and drive away back home.
Bikes are for London and China not Blackburn.Bikes are not safe on roads unless it's bikes only roads like China.
Bikes for Blackburn, a joke a small town so compact ? Who want to put ten shopping bags on a bike then ride off to bus station or train station. I will always come by car ,park it on Mall shopping centre car park and get down the lifts and up with the lift with ten shopping bags to the car park and drive away back home. Bikes are for London and China not Blackburn.Bikes are not safe on roads unless it's bikes only roads like China. M.DANNY
  • Score: -4

8:05pm Thu 12 Jun 14

peely says...

I think it,s a great idea , people can come to Blackburn and cycle around and see the sights. We have numerous bail hostels , half way drug houses , dos houses for vagrants ,druggies and alcoholics . We have gangs of shoplifters visiting the shopping mall,The list goes on , come on down and cycle and see Blackburn , and keep fit at the same time !
I think it,s a great idea , people can come to Blackburn and cycle around and see the sights. We have numerous bail hostels , half way drug houses , dos houses for vagrants ,druggies and alcoholics . We have gangs of shoplifters visiting the shopping mall,The list goes on , come on down and cycle and see Blackburn , and keep fit at the same time ! peely
  • Score: 23

8:25pm Thu 12 Jun 14

child44 says...

Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
Nobody's forcing you to use them.

Oh, and you DON'T pay for the roads with you fuel and road tax. Everyone pays for the roads with general taxation.
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]Nobody's forcing you to use them. Oh, and you DON'T pay for the roads with you fuel and road tax. Everyone pays for the roads with general taxation. child44
  • Score: 29

8:34pm Thu 12 Jun 14

modan says...

If you want free bikes there are plenty in China and India where people are scrapping bikes and buying cars.
Who want bikes when you can buy a new car from £1000 in China and India small cars like small Mini cars and Fiat cars.
Second hand cars in UK from £500 like an Ford Fiesta, Astra or a Renault Clio.Bikes are not safe anymore on UK roads unless i was on a holiday in France .
If you want free bikes there are plenty in China and India where people are scrapping bikes and buying cars. Who want bikes when you can buy a new car from £1000 in China and India small cars like small Mini cars and Fiat cars. Second hand cars in UK from £500 like an Ford Fiesta, Astra or a Renault Clio.Bikes are not safe anymore on UK roads unless i was on a holiday in France . modan
  • Score: -6

8:39pm Thu 12 Jun 14

woolywords says...

Calm down...
These bikes have been on Blackburn railway station, for quite a few weeks now, so this isn't news.
That said, when I did see them, quite a few were missing, so someone is using them.

And, if you use the canal towpath, it's possible to evade most of Blackburns hills, so your point about it being too hilly for a bike, has no foundation. You can easily get from one end to the other, in relative ease.

I agree with the comment about the way that drivers of cars treat cyclists, having cycled to and from the brewery at Salmesbury. They too, had the mindset of, 'I pay for these roads..' and am not giving you any space.
If that is the case, then I say, you need to stump up some more cash, to pay for the large numbers of potholes, that are a menace to cyclists, in the roads that you claim to pay for..
Calm down... These bikes have been on Blackburn railway station, for quite a few weeks now, so this isn't news. That said, when I did see them, quite a few were missing, so someone is using them. And, if you use the canal towpath, it's possible to evade most of Blackburns hills, so your point about it being too hilly for a bike, has no foundation. You can easily get from one end to the other, in relative ease. I agree with the comment about the way that drivers of cars treat cyclists, having cycled to and from the brewery at Salmesbury. They too, had the mindset of, 'I pay for these roads..' and am not giving you any space. If that is the case, then I say, you need to stump up some more cash, to pay for the large numbers of potholes, that are a menace to cyclists, in the roads that you claim to pay for.. woolywords
  • Score: 15

11:32pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Steven11 says...

jonno1 wrote:
obviously a lazy sod , get some exercise & calm down you pathetic excuse for a human, get out of your car one day & walk or do something other than drive around you useless lazy,patronising sod, get a grip on life , theres more to It than a car, you buffoon,you sound like a right moaning arse hahha ,you need treatment, enjoy your day numnuts
Has some one hit a nerve here johno ?
[quote][p][bold]jonno1[/bold] wrote: obviously a lazy sod , get some exercise & calm down you pathetic excuse for a human, get out of your car one day & walk or do something other than drive around you useless lazy,patronising sod, get a grip on life , theres more to It than a car, you buffoon,you sound like a right moaning arse hahha ,you need treatment, enjoy your day numnuts[/p][/quote]Has some one hit a nerve here johno ? Steven11
  • Score: 10

12:27am Fri 13 Jun 14

fireonthemountain says...

Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
Absolutely brilliant post . My vote for post of the year .

Why do I smell the evil stench of The Council over this ?
More admin - jobs for the otherwise unemployable .

Oooh - have to monitor this , let's have more Council Offices ,
new computer systems , spare no expense on carpets and desks .
Need a load of "cycle-wardens" .

Is there an Election coming up ?
Why does the word "Kate" keep coming into my mind ?

May I make clear I have no objection to cyclists per se , well apart
from those who seem to think that traffic lights do not apply to them ,
and of course those who scatter pedestrians who thought they were
safe walking along a pavement . Not forgetting the fact that they pay
no road tax , no insurance , weave in and out of traffic , overtake on the inside and cost the Health Service a fair few quid , as helmets are not compulsory .

Not to worry - gotta reach those green targets !!
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]Absolutely brilliant post . My vote for post of the year . Why do I smell the evil stench of The Council over this ? More admin - jobs for the otherwise unemployable . Oooh - have to monitor this , let's have more Council Offices , new computer systems , spare no expense on carpets and desks . Need a load of "cycle-wardens" . Is there an Election coming up ? Why does the word "Kate" keep coming into my mind ? May I make clear I have no objection to cyclists per se , well apart from those who seem to think that traffic lights do not apply to them , and of course those who scatter pedestrians who thought they were safe walking along a pavement . Not forgetting the fact that they pay no road tax , no insurance , weave in and out of traffic , overtake on the inside and cost the Health Service a fair few quid , as helmets are not compulsory . Not to worry - gotta reach those green targets !! fireonthemountain
  • Score: -40

7:33am Fri 13 Jun 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious.

are you aware of what an idiot you sound.

you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car.

if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT).

if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious. are you aware of what an idiot you sound. you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car. if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT). if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town? hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 7

7:49am Fri 13 Jun 14

themink says...

fireonthemountain wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
Absolutely brilliant post . My vote for post of the year .

Why do I smell the evil stench of The Council over this ?
More admin - jobs for the otherwise unemployable .

Oooh - have to monitor this , let's have more Council Offices ,
new computer systems , spare no expense on carpets and desks .
Need a load of "cycle-wardens" .

Is there an Election coming up ?
Why does the word "Kate" keep coming into my mind ?

May I make clear I have no objection to cyclists per se , well apart
from those who seem to think that traffic lights do not apply to them ,
and of course those who scatter pedestrians who thought they were
safe walking along a pavement . Not forgetting the fact that they pay
no road tax , no insurance , weave in and out of traffic , overtake on the inside and cost the Health Service a fair few quid , as helmets are not compulsory .

Not to worry - gotta reach those green targets !!
Nobody pays road tax. There is no such thing.
[quote][p][bold]fireonthemountain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]Absolutely brilliant post . My vote for post of the year . Why do I smell the evil stench of The Council over this ? More admin - jobs for the otherwise unemployable . Oooh - have to monitor this , let's have more Council Offices , new computer systems , spare no expense on carpets and desks . Need a load of "cycle-wardens" . Is there an Election coming up ? Why does the word "Kate" keep coming into my mind ? May I make clear I have no objection to cyclists per se , well apart from those who seem to think that traffic lights do not apply to them , and of course those who scatter pedestrians who thought they were safe walking along a pavement . Not forgetting the fact that they pay no road tax , no insurance , weave in and out of traffic , overtake on the inside and cost the Health Service a fair few quid , as helmets are not compulsory . Not to worry - gotta reach those green targets !![/p][/quote]Nobody pays road tax. There is no such thing. themink
  • Score: 18

8:29am Fri 13 Jun 14

King Joke says...

True - there is no such thing as road tax. There is Vehicle Excise Duty. People driving small cars don't pay it, and buses pay a lot. Presumably FOTM is happy to see small cars banned and buses prioritised, if VED is to determine priority on the roads.
True - there is no such thing as road tax. There is Vehicle Excise Duty. People driving small cars don't pay it, and buses pay a lot. Presumably FOTM is happy to see small cars banned and buses prioritised, if VED is to determine priority on the roads. King Joke
  • Score: 26

8:29am Fri 13 Jun 14

A Darener says...

I notice the girl in the photo is not wearing a helmet! Are they supplied with the bike? Is insurance provided in the hire fee? If not why not? I can see compensation claims ahead.
I notice the girl in the photo is not wearing a helmet! Are they supplied with the bike? Is insurance provided in the hire fee? If not why not? I can see compensation claims ahead. A Darener
  • Score: 9

8:38am Fri 13 Jun 14

King Joke says...

She is 21. She is a woman. Helmets are not compulsory.
She is 21. She is a woman. Helmets are not compulsory. King Joke
  • Score: 10

8:40am Fri 13 Jun 14

A Darener says...

Might not be compulsory but certainly necessary to avoid serious injury if
Knocked off by careless motorists, regardless of age.
Might not be compulsory but certainly necessary to avoid serious injury if Knocked off by careless motorists, regardless of age. A Darener
  • Score: 12

9:00am Fri 13 Jun 14

Noiticer says...

The bikes in question have been available at Blackburn Station for at lest three months, if not longer, but the rate of take-up has been extremely low reflecting the fact that Blackburn is not a bike friendly town. It has few dedicated cycle tracks, it is generally too hilly for the average cyclist and the main low level routes are usually very busy and have parked cars on both sides. I'd love to cycle but the above factors preclude it. The station cycles were put there by Northern Trains as part of their policy to encourage cycling (one of their owning companies -Abellio are the nationalised Dutch Railways)but I don't think much market research was done in Blackburn before they put the cycles on the station. The bike store at the station is also little used - a case of money being spent unwisely.
The bikes in question have been available at Blackburn Station for at lest three months, if not longer, but the rate of take-up has been extremely low reflecting the fact that Blackburn is not a bike friendly town. It has few dedicated cycle tracks, it is generally too hilly for the average cyclist and the main low level routes are usually very busy and have parked cars on both sides. I'd love to cycle but the above factors preclude it. The station cycles were put there by Northern Trains as part of their policy to encourage cycling (one of their owning companies -Abellio are the nationalised Dutch Railways)but I don't think much market research was done in Blackburn before they put the cycles on the station. The bike store at the station is also little used - a case of money being spent unwisely. Noiticer
  • Score: 16

12:23pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Copperhead says...

child44 wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
Nobody's forcing you to use them.

Oh, and you DON'T pay for the roads with you fuel and road tax. Everyone pays for the roads with general taxation.
Road-users pay over £50 billion a year to the Exchequer and HMG spent £26 billion on the roads in 2012 ( the last year for which full accounts are available ).
[quote][p][bold]child44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]Nobody's forcing you to use them. Oh, and you DON'T pay for the roads with you fuel and road tax. Everyone pays for the roads with general taxation.[/p][/quote]Road-users pay over £50 billion a year to the Exchequer and HMG spent £26 billion on the roads in 2012 ( the last year for which full accounts are available ). Copperhead
  • Score: 1

12:30pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Copperhead says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious.

are you aware of what an idiot you sound.

you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car.

if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT).

if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?
Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business.
On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road.
My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent.
Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ?
I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious. are you aware of what an idiot you sound. you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car. if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT). if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?[/p][/quote]Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business. On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road. My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent. Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ? I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today. Copperhead
  • Score: 7

1:04pm Fri 13 Jun 14

hasslem hasslem says...

Copperhead wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious.

are you aware of what an idiot you sound.

you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car.

if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT).

if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?
Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business.
On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road.
My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent.
Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ?
I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.
clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you say that bikes are a minute part of halfords' offer.

i travel to and from blackburn by train most days and on my early morning train there were four passengers alighting at blackburn station with bikes on the train - they must have been going somewhere.

equally, on my walk to work up up brandyhouse brow three blokes cylcled down the hill - in what looked like work wear. i wonder where they may have been going. last night walking down brandyhouse brow i passed 2 blokes pushing their bikes up there. so, i would suggest you have your eyes closed.
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious. are you aware of what an idiot you sound. you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car. if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT). if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?[/p][/quote]Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business. On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road. My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent. Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ? I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.[/p][/quote]clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you say that bikes are a minute part of halfords' offer. i travel to and from blackburn by train most days and on my early morning train there were four passengers alighting at blackburn station with bikes on the train - they must have been going somewhere. equally, on my walk to work up up brandyhouse brow three blokes cylcled down the hill - in what looked like work wear. i wonder where they may have been going. last night walking down brandyhouse brow i passed 2 blokes pushing their bikes up there. so, i would suggest you have your eyes closed. hasslem hasslem
  • Score: 13

1:11pm Fri 13 Jun 14

King Joke says...

Flat is irrelevant these days. Most commuting hybrids are fitted with triple chainsets so if you don't mind going slowly you will be able to climb most hills.
Flat is irrelevant these days. Most commuting hybrids are fitted with triple chainsets so if you don't mind going slowly you will be able to climb most hills. King Joke
  • Score: 5

2:07pm Fri 13 Jun 14

woolywords says...

Last night, I too have been counting...around the town centre.
Oh wait, you meant bikes...sorry!
I misheard you.
Last night, I too have been counting...around the town centre. Oh wait, you meant bikes...sorry! I misheard you. woolywords
  • Score: 11

2:30pm Fri 13 Jun 14

King Joke says...

THat would be Hebden Bridge...
THat would be Hebden Bridge... King Joke
  • Score: 13

8:50pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Copperhead says...

hasslem hasslem wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious.

are you aware of what an idiot you sound.

you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car.

if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT).

if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?
Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business.
On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road.
My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent.
Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ?
I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.
clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you say that bikes are a minute part of halfords' offer.

i travel to and from blackburn by train most days and on my early morning train there were four passengers alighting at blackburn station with bikes on the train - they must have been going somewhere.

equally, on my walk to work up up brandyhouse brow three blokes cylcled down the hill - in what looked like work wear. i wonder where they may have been going. last night walking down brandyhouse brow i passed 2 blokes pushing their bikes up there. so, i would suggest you have your eyes closed.
So - I got home from work at about 5pm with a note of all the bikes I have seen on the road today ( not including children on BMX bikes ).
Including my daily commute, I drove exactly 51 miles today in and around Blackburn and Darwen in the course of my job.
In those 51 miles I saw 13 cyclists. That's about one cyclist every 3.9 miles.
Only two of those cyclists were actually cycling legally and safely - one was in a cycle lane and one was on the road.
Two others were riding on the road - but AGAINST the flow of traffic on the wrong side of the road.
One rider I saw at the traffic lights near B&Q rode across a pedestrian crossing, rode through a red light and then onto Wainwright Bridge where he proceeded to ride on the footpath, despite there being a wide and clearly marked cycle path next to the footpath.
All the others were cycling on the footpath - these were adults, not children, and most to them were riding on footpaths right next to cycle lanes clearly marked on the road.
I had to stop at many sets of traffic lights, many of which had large " cycles only " areas right at the front. Not one cycle was present in any of these areas.
I passed Darwen Vale school and noticed the massive under-cover cycle parking area to the left of this recently re-furbished building. Not one cycle was to be seen here.
So, I say again - why all the expense and hoo-ha about cycling ?
Judging by all the cycle lanes, cycle parks and " Cycles only " areas I see on our roads, anyone would think there thousands of cyclists on Blackburn's roads, rather than the baker's dozen I saw today.
Don't get me wrong - I am NOT anti-bicycle. What I am against is the ridiculous waste of money by local and county councils on promoting something - cycling - that is clearly NOT wanted by the vast majority of citizens in this area.
Our town and county halls are infested with left-wing activists who seek to impose their will on the rest of us, whether we want their idea of utopia or not. They are as much anti-car as they anti-capitalist, anti-America and anti-business.
They are determined to force us to accept their beliefs - be it diversity, multiculturalism or the use of public transport and cycling - i.e., " sustainable transport " whether we want these things or not.
Public employees are paid by the taxpayer and politicians are elected by the taxpayer.
They should do what WE want and not what their political dogma demands.
And if that means making car driving easier and cheaper, then so be it.
[quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious. are you aware of what an idiot you sound. you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car. if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT). if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?[/p][/quote]Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business. On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road. My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent. Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ? I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.[/p][/quote]clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you say that bikes are a minute part of halfords' offer. i travel to and from blackburn by train most days and on my early morning train there were four passengers alighting at blackburn station with bikes on the train - they must have been going somewhere. equally, on my walk to work up up brandyhouse brow three blokes cylcled down the hill - in what looked like work wear. i wonder where they may have been going. last night walking down brandyhouse brow i passed 2 blokes pushing their bikes up there. so, i would suggest you have your eyes closed.[/p][/quote]So - I got home from work at about 5pm with a note of all the bikes I have seen on the road today ( not including children on BMX bikes ). Including my daily commute, I drove exactly 51 miles today in and around Blackburn and Darwen in the course of my job. In those 51 miles I saw 13 cyclists. That's about one cyclist every 3.9 miles. Only two of those cyclists were actually cycling legally and safely - one was in a cycle lane and one was on the road. Two others were riding on the road - but AGAINST the flow of traffic on the wrong side of the road. One rider I saw at the traffic lights near B&Q rode across a pedestrian crossing, rode through a red light and then onto Wainwright Bridge where he proceeded to ride on the footpath, despite there being a wide and clearly marked cycle path next to the footpath. All the others were cycling on the footpath - these were adults, not children, and most to them were riding on footpaths right next to cycle lanes clearly marked on the road. I had to stop at many sets of traffic lights, many of which had large " cycles only " areas right at the front. Not one cycle was present in any of these areas. I passed Darwen Vale school and noticed the massive under-cover cycle parking area to the left of this recently re-furbished building. Not one cycle was to be seen here. So, I say again - why all the expense and hoo-ha about cycling ? Judging by all the cycle lanes, cycle parks and " Cycles only " areas I see on our roads, anyone would think there thousands of cyclists on Blackburn's roads, rather than the baker's dozen I saw today. Don't get me wrong - I am NOT anti-bicycle. What I am against is the ridiculous waste of money by local and county councils on promoting something - cycling - that is clearly NOT wanted by the vast majority of citizens in this area. Our town and county halls are infested with left-wing activists who seek to impose their will on the rest of us, whether we want their idea of utopia or not. They are as much anti-car as they anti-capitalist, anti-America and anti-business. They are determined to force us to accept their beliefs - be it diversity, multiculturalism or the use of public transport and cycling - i.e., " sustainable transport " whether we want these things or not. Public employees are paid by the taxpayer and politicians are elected by the taxpayer. They should do what WE want and not what their political dogma demands. And if that means making car driving easier and cheaper, then so be it. Copperhead
  • Score: 13

9:48pm Fri 13 Jun 14

modan says...

Copperhead wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
hasslem hasslem wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
What a load of green cobblers !!!
Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!!
There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes.
There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax.
But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week.
People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ?
It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist.
Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ).
Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????
i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious.

are you aware of what an idiot you sound.

you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car.

if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT).

if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?
Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business.
On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road.
My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent.
Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ?
I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.
clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you say that bikes are a minute part of halfords' offer.

i travel to and from blackburn by train most days and on my early morning train there were four passengers alighting at blackburn station with bikes on the train - they must have been going somewhere.

equally, on my walk to work up up brandyhouse brow three blokes cylcled down the hill - in what looked like work wear. i wonder where they may have been going. last night walking down brandyhouse brow i passed 2 blokes pushing their bikes up there. so, i would suggest you have your eyes closed.
So - I got home from work at about 5pm with a note of all the bikes I have seen on the road today ( not including children on BMX bikes ).
Including my daily commute, I drove exactly 51 miles today in and around Blackburn and Darwen in the course of my job.
In those 51 miles I saw 13 cyclists. That's about one cyclist every 3.9 miles.
Only two of those cyclists were actually cycling legally and safely - one was in a cycle lane and one was on the road.
Two others were riding on the road - but AGAINST the flow of traffic on the wrong side of the road.
One rider I saw at the traffic lights near B&Q rode across a pedestrian crossing, rode through a red light and then onto Wainwright Bridge where he proceeded to ride on the footpath, despite there being a wide and clearly marked cycle path next to the footpath.
All the others were cycling on the footpath - these were adults, not children, and most to them were riding on footpaths right next to cycle lanes clearly marked on the road.
I had to stop at many sets of traffic lights, many of which had large " cycles only " areas right at the front. Not one cycle was present in any of these areas.
I passed Darwen Vale school and noticed the massive under-cover cycle parking area to the left of this recently re-furbished building. Not one cycle was to be seen here.
So, I say again - why all the expense and hoo-ha about cycling ?
Judging by all the cycle lanes, cycle parks and " Cycles only " areas I see on our roads, anyone would think there thousands of cyclists on Blackburn's roads, rather than the baker's dozen I saw today.
Don't get me wrong - I am NOT anti-bicycle. What I am against is the ridiculous waste of money by local and county councils on promoting something - cycling - that is clearly NOT wanted by the vast majority of citizens in this area.
Our town and county halls are infested with left-wing activists who seek to impose their will on the rest of us, whether we want their idea of utopia or not. They are as much anti-car as they anti-capitalist, anti-America and anti-business.
They are determined to force us to accept their beliefs - be it diversity, multiculturalism or the use of public transport and cycling - i.e., " sustainable transport " whether we want these things or not.
Public employees are paid by the taxpayer and politicians are elected by the taxpayer.
They should do what WE want and not what their political dogma demands.
And if that means making car driving easier and cheaper, then so be it.
Well written ten out of ten good posting.I saw a few bikes on Blackburn roads and these people go through red lights onto footpaths and total disregards for motorists and pedestrians . They are scrapping bikes in China and India for small cars, these emerging economies are giving up Boris bikes for cars. There are over 35 million cars in UK i would consider bikes are not safe anymore on Britain's roads.Bikes are not for taking a family out on a shopping trip or trip to Blackpool.
I would a ride bike on a holiday in France or somewhere in Wales.
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hasslem hasslem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: What a load of green cobblers !!! Hiring pushbikes in a town built on hills and populated by hundreds of tea-leaves - whose stupid idea is this ????!!!!!! There are cycle lanes all over New Islamabad - sorry, I mean Blackburn - and apart from a very few lycra-clad enthusiasts, no-one uses pushbikes. There are " reserved " spaces for cyclists at traffic lights, putting them ahead of those of us who actually PAY for the roads with our fuel and road tax. But I never see a cyclist in these areas EVER, not EVER - and I am out on Blackburn's roads seven days a week. People don't use pushbikes en masse in Blackburn because of the hills and the crap weather. It rains here so much of the year and who wants to get to work soaking wet with rain and sweat ? How many places of work even offer showering facilities for those hardy souls who would cycle to work every day if they could clean themselves when they got there ? It's about time the Guardian-reading left-wing loonies who try to persuade us onto pushbikes and public transport woke up to the fact that PEOPLE PREFER TO USE A CAR and started to improve the roads, offer more places to park free of charge and reduced the harassment of motorists by getting rid of speed cameras, traffic calming measures and ridiculously low speed limits which are unnecessary and are there simply to raise revenue from the hard-pressed motorist. Blackburn is NOT Amsterdam, Paris or London ( thank God - who wants to live in that over-crowded, over-priced sh*t-hole ? ). Blackburn is a run-down, scruffy, dingy relic of the industrial age where people LIKE TO USE CARS AND NOT BIKES OR BUSES. OK ?????????[/p][/quote]i was trying to work out if this is a wind-up, but i think you are deadly serious. are you aware of what an idiot you sound. you don't see people out on bikes around blackburn - well you are either a liar or blind and not fit to drive a car. if you don't want to use them - fine....but don't stop other people from taking advantage of the facility (AND PAYING FOR IT). if nobody uses bikes around blackburn - then how do the likes of halfords continue to have a shop in the town?[/p][/quote]Halfords sell mainly car-related items. Bikes are a minute part of their business. On my way to work this morning ( Friday ) , a journey of nearly 5 miles through Blackburn I counted a total of, er, NO bikes on the road. My point is - councils spend our money on facilities for cyclists that are simply not used, either at all, or enough to justify the money spent. Now if we lived in Lytham St. Annes or anywhere in Cheshire, both of which are FLAT, I can see the point in using a bike. But in Blackburn ? I'll post again tonight when I get home and let you know how many bikes I have seen today.[/p][/quote]clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when you say that bikes are a minute part of halfords' offer. i travel to and from blackburn by train most days and on my early morning train there were four passengers alighting at blackburn station with bikes on the train - they must have been going somewhere. equally, on my walk to work up up brandyhouse brow three blokes cylcled down the hill - in what looked like work wear. i wonder where they may have been going. last night walking down brandyhouse brow i passed 2 blokes pushing their bikes up there. so, i would suggest you have your eyes closed.[/p][/quote]So - I got home from work at about 5pm with a note of all the bikes I have seen on the road today ( not including children on BMX bikes ). Including my daily commute, I drove exactly 51 miles today in and around Blackburn and Darwen in the course of my job. In those 51 miles I saw 13 cyclists. That's about one cyclist every 3.9 miles. Only two of those cyclists were actually cycling legally and safely - one was in a cycle lane and one was on the road. Two others were riding on the road - but AGAINST the flow of traffic on the wrong side of the road. One rider I saw at the traffic lights near B&Q rode across a pedestrian crossing, rode through a red light and then onto Wainwright Bridge where he proceeded to ride on the footpath, despite there being a wide and clearly marked cycle path next to the footpath. All the others were cycling on the footpath - these were adults, not children, and most to them were riding on footpaths right next to cycle lanes clearly marked on the road. I had to stop at many sets of traffic lights, many of which had large " cycles only " areas right at the front. Not one cycle was present in any of these areas. I passed Darwen Vale school and noticed the massive under-cover cycle parking area to the left of this recently re-furbished building. Not one cycle was to be seen here. So, I say again - why all the expense and hoo-ha about cycling ? Judging by all the cycle lanes, cycle parks and " Cycles only " areas I see on our roads, anyone would think there thousands of cyclists on Blackburn's roads, rather than the baker's dozen I saw today. Don't get me wrong - I am NOT anti-bicycle. What I am against is the ridiculous waste of money by local and county councils on promoting something - cycling - that is clearly NOT wanted by the vast majority of citizens in this area. Our town and county halls are infested with left-wing activists who seek to impose their will on the rest of us, whether we want their idea of utopia or not. They are as much anti-car as they anti-capitalist, anti-America and anti-business. They are determined to force us to accept their beliefs - be it diversity, multiculturalism or the use of public transport and cycling - i.e., " sustainable transport " whether we want these things or not. Public employees are paid by the taxpayer and politicians are elected by the taxpayer. They should do what WE want and not what their political dogma demands. And if that means making car driving easier and cheaper, then so be it.[/p][/quote]Well written ten out of ten good posting.I saw a few bikes on Blackburn roads and these people go through red lights onto footpaths and total disregards for motorists and pedestrians . They are scrapping bikes in China and India for small cars, these emerging economies are giving up Boris bikes for cars. There are over 35 million cars in UK i would consider bikes are not safe anymore on Britain's roads.Bikes are not for taking a family out on a shopping trip or trip to Blackpool. I would a ride bike on a holiday in France or somewhere in Wales. modan
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11:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

fireonthemountain says...

King Joke wrote:
True - there is no such thing as road tax. There is Vehicle Excise Duty. People driving small cars don't pay it, and buses pay a lot. Presumably FOTM is happy to see small cars banned and buses prioritised, if VED is to determine priority on the roads.
Typical , of a certain political persuasion .

1 - It's road tax . It was known as road tax for years .
Changing the name does't alter that fact .

Just as you changed speed cameras to safety cameras .

Just as you changed global warming to climate change .

Police Force ? - oh , no , too agresssive sounding .
National Lottery ? - oh , no , that implies unity .

And do note that any reference to Royalty is forbidden .

When did you last hear a Liebour politician refer to
The ROYAL Air Force , The ROYAL Navy ?
HER MAJESTY'S Prison Service , HM Customs and Excise anyone ?

What can we do with The ROYAL Mail ? - ooh I know , let's
call it Consignia ....that went well didn't it ?

2 - I note you make a presumption about my post , concerning what
I would like to see happening . Your conclusion is based on what facts
exactly ?

Is it mindreading ? Or normal policy - if you can't win an arguement ,
shout it down ?

Have a nice day - enjoy May 2015 - in the only city , oops sorry , town , in
Europe that is moving its bus station away from the train station !!
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: True - there is no such thing as road tax. There is Vehicle Excise Duty. People driving small cars don't pay it, and buses pay a lot. Presumably FOTM is happy to see small cars banned and buses prioritised, if VED is to determine priority on the roads.[/p][/quote]Typical , of a certain political persuasion . 1 - It's road tax . It was known as road tax for years . Changing the name does't alter that fact . Just as you changed speed cameras to safety cameras . Just as you changed global warming to climate change . Police Force ? - oh , no , too agresssive sounding . National Lottery ? - oh , no , that implies unity . And do note that any reference to Royalty is forbidden . When did you last hear a Liebour politician refer to The ROYAL Air Force , The ROYAL Navy ? HER MAJESTY'S Prison Service , HM Customs and Excise anyone ? What can we do with The ROYAL Mail ? - ooh I know , let's call it Consignia ....that went well didn't it ? 2 - I note you make a presumption about my post , concerning what I would like to see happening . Your conclusion is based on what facts exactly ? Is it mindreading ? Or normal policy - if you can't win an arguement , shout it down ? Have a nice day - enjoy May 2015 - in the only city , oops sorry , town , in Europe that is moving its bus station away from the train station !! fireonthemountain
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