Whalley CE Primary school's new religious admission policy branded 'unduly restrictive'

Whalley CE Primary School

Whalley CE Primary School

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A RIBBLE Valley primary school’s admissions policy has been branded ‘unduly restrictive’ by a leading borough councillor.

Coun Terry Hill criticised Whalley CE Primary School’s position to favour children who attend the parish church over other Christians, other faiths and those of no faith.

The Whalley councillor said parents of children at the school had contacted him with ‘serious concerns’ over the issue.

The recently-updated policy, which is published on the school’s website, states that ‘children who have a parent/guardian worshipping in Whalley Parish Church’ will be favoured over ‘children who have a parent/guardian worshipping in Whalley Methodist Church or the Roman Catholic Church of English Martyrs or Ebenezer Baptist Church, Billington’.

The policy, which affects admissions for this coming academic year, also states that ‘children who have a parent/guardian worshipping in a church in full membership of Churches Together in England or Evangelical Alliance’ will then be considered before ‘children whose parents/guardian live within the area served by the school alone’ and then ‘other children’.

The school has around 262 children on roll, with 39 children, one under the maximum, due to start there in September.

Coun Hill said: “This policy is unduly restrictive.

“I share the concerns of those parents who have talked to me about this issue.

“It will put pressure on them at a time when competition for places is rising.

“I can see the church’s point of view but this will affect parents in the village. This could also increase the number of parents who just go to church to make sure their child gets into the school, without really wanting to be there.”

The school’s chairman of governors, David Borland, said there had not been a ‘huge response’ to a public consultation over the change. He added: “We are between a rock and a hard place, trying to balance the church and the community’s wishes.

“The school is not oversubscribed for this coming year so there is not a problem with people missing out. The governing body has to look at the whole picture and that is what we have done.”

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10:03am Tue 13 May 14

MET1983 says...

Pretty sure it works the same way when trying to join other schools. (Muslim Schools, St.Christophers etc)
Pretty sure it works the same way when trying to join other schools. (Muslim Schools, St.Christophers etc) MET1983
  • Score: 26

10:33am Tue 13 May 14

caballo says...

40 places, 39 applicants??? Non story!!!
What on earth are the LT trying to do, whip up a racial storm, offer balance? I'm confused by this article and it's intentions.
40 places, 39 applicants??? Non story!!! What on earth are the LT trying to do, whip up a racial storm, offer balance? I'm confused by this article and it's intentions. caballo
  • Score: 29

1:45pm Tue 13 May 14

Frisson says...

religion should not be in schools and admittance should not be judged on it. Science all the way Im afraid
religion should not be in schools and admittance should not be judged on it. Science all the way Im afraid Frisson
  • Score: 15

2:25pm Tue 13 May 14

TONY WALES says...

Amazing how people suddenly discover the word "religion" when they want their kids to get into a better school.

The clue is in the "CE" in the nane.
Religion is not just for school hours........... it is 24/7
Amazing how people suddenly discover the word "religion" when they want their kids to get into a better school. The clue is in the "CE" in the nane. Religion is not just for school hours........... it is 24/7 TONY WALES
  • Score: -3

4:22pm Tue 13 May 14

boynesider says...

I went to an RC primary and it was accepted at the time that we were practising catholics as the church was a main financer of the school.cant see the problem with "faith"schools if they are funded by the faith.look at all the "free" schools promted by Michael Gove.free in word only as the taxpayer is paying
I went to an RC primary and it was accepted at the time that we were practising catholics as the church was a main financer of the school.cant see the problem with "faith"schools if they are funded by the faith.look at all the "free" schools promted by Michael Gove.free in word only as the taxpayer is paying boynesider
  • Score: 2

5:01pm Tue 13 May 14

moxhie says...

boynesider wrote:
I went to an RC primary and it was accepted at the time that we were practising catholics as the church was a main financer of the school.cant see the problem with "faith"schools if they are funded by the faith.look at all the "free" schools promted by Michael Gove.free in word only as the taxpayer is paying
I think you will find that Catholic schools accept Catholic children of Catholic parents whether they are "practising" or not .

C of E schools , such as St Christopher's Accrington , use the "religious" criteria so that they can cream of the best puplis within the area .
[quote][p][bold]boynesider[/bold] wrote: I went to an RC primary and it was accepted at the time that we were practising catholics as the church was a main financer of the school.cant see the problem with "faith"schools if they are funded by the faith.look at all the "free" schools promted by Michael Gove.free in word only as the taxpayer is paying[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Catholic schools accept Catholic children of Catholic parents whether they are "practising" or not . C of E schools , such as St Christopher's Accrington , use the "religious" criteria so that they can cream of the best puplis within the area . moxhie
  • Score: 1

5:02pm Tue 13 May 14

moxhie says...

boynesider wrote:
I went to an RC primary and it was accepted at the time that we were practising catholics as the church was a main financer of the school.cant see the problem with "faith"schools if they are funded by the faith.look at all the "free" schools promted by Michael Gove.free in word only as the taxpayer is paying
I think you will find that Catholic schools accept Catholic children of Catholic parents whether they are "practising" or not .

C of E schools , such as St Christopher's Accrington , use the "religious" criteria so that they can cream off the best puplis within the area .
[quote][p][bold]boynesider[/bold] wrote: I went to an RC primary and it was accepted at the time that we were practising catholics as the church was a main financer of the school.cant see the problem with "faith"schools if they are funded by the faith.look at all the "free" schools promted by Michael Gove.free in word only as the taxpayer is paying[/p][/quote]I think you will find that Catholic schools accept Catholic children of Catholic parents whether they are "practising" or not . C of E schools , such as St Christopher's Accrington , use the "religious" criteria so that they can cream off the best puplis within the area . moxhie
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Tue 13 May 14

wilddog says...

so this again is working one way? 1 rule for 1 and the rest of us have to put up with it? Good on the school i say!
so this again is working one way? 1 rule for 1 and the rest of us have to put up with it? Good on the school i say! wilddog
  • Score: 0

5:47pm Tue 13 May 14

salvadore says...

This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.
This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools. salvadore
  • Score: -7

5:48pm Tue 13 May 14

phil kernot says...

Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,, phil kernot
  • Score: 7

5:54pm Tue 13 May 14

salvadore says...

phil kernot wrote:
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.
[quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,[/p][/quote]People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else. salvadore
  • Score: -7

6:56pm Tue 13 May 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

salvadore wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.
As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,[/p][/quote]People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.[/p][/quote]As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 8

6:58pm Tue 13 May 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

It's good to know they have one spare place when there are 2,000 houses being built locally.
It's good to know they have one spare place when there are 2,000 houses being built locally. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 8

7:12pm Tue 13 May 14

salvadore says...

Birtrumthegreat wrote:
salvadore wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.
As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.
If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.
[quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,[/p][/quote]People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.[/p][/quote]As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.[/p][/quote]If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you. salvadore
  • Score: -6

7:34pm Tue 13 May 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

salvadore wrote:
Birtrumthegreat wrote:
salvadore wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.
As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.
If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.
Tigger may have charged in to a room and bounced on a few people, but he never wore an explosive vest, just so he could copulate with a few virgins in the afterlife. As far as I know, Piglet has never worn a cassock and interfered with young boys in his care, like Christopher Robin , then shared his sordid photos on the internet. If you need an imaginary friend, I suggest you look no further than the tooth fairy, she's a nice lady, who's never orchestrated any floods, plagues of locust or famines.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,[/p][/quote]People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.[/p][/quote]As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.[/p][/quote]If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.[/p][/quote]Tigger may have charged in to a room and bounced on a few people, but he never wore an explosive vest, just so he could copulate with a few virgins in the afterlife. As far as I know, Piglet has never worn a cassock and interfered with young boys in his care, like Christopher Robin , then shared his sordid photos on the internet. If you need an imaginary friend, I suggest you look no further than the tooth fairy, she's a nice lady, who's never orchestrated any floods, plagues of locust or famines. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 3

7:35pm Tue 13 May 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

salvadore wrote:
Birtrumthegreat wrote:
salvadore wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.
As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.
If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.
Tigger may have charged in to a room and bounced on a few people, but he never wore an explosive vest, just so he could copulate with a few virgins in the afterlife. As far as I know, Piglet has never worn a cassock and interfered with young boys in his care, like Christopher Robin , then shared his sordid photos on the internet. If you need an imaginary friend, I suggest you look no further than the tooth fairy, she's a nice lady who's never orchestrated any floods, plagues of locust or famines.
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,[/p][/quote]People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.[/p][/quote]As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.[/p][/quote]If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.[/p][/quote]Tigger may have charged in to a room and bounced on a few people, but he never wore an explosive vest, just so he could copulate with a few virgins in the afterlife. As far as I know, Piglet has never worn a cassock and interfered with young boys in his care, like Christopher Robin , then shared his sordid photos on the internet. If you need an imaginary friend, I suggest you look no further than the tooth fairy, she's a nice lady who's never orchestrated any floods, plagues of locust or famines. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 6

7:55pm Tue 13 May 14

moxhie says...

salvadore wrote:
This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.
If you look around the schools in Lancashire you will find that Catholic schools admit many pupils of other faiths .

The local Catholic High school near me has one third of its pupils who are Muslim .
[quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.[/p][/quote]If you look around the schools in Lancashire you will find that Catholic schools admit many pupils of other faiths . The local Catholic High school near me has one third of its pupils who are Muslim . moxhie
  • Score: 3

8:19pm Tue 13 May 14

Birtrumthegreat says...

moxhie wrote:
salvadore wrote:
This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.
If you look around the schools in Lancashire you will find that Catholic schools admit many pupils of other faiths .

The local Catholic High school near me has one third of its pupils who are Muslim .
Not St Augustine's, I know someone who is non Catholic that lives opposite the entrance to the school, who cannot have a place. It's religion clinging to power, that's all.
[quote][p][bold]moxhie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.[/p][/quote]If you look around the schools in Lancashire you will find that Catholic schools admit many pupils of other faiths . The local Catholic High school near me has one third of its pupils who are Muslim .[/p][/quote]Not St Augustine's, I know someone who is non Catholic that lives opposite the entrance to the school, who cannot have a place. It's religion clinging to power, that's all. Birtrumthegreat
  • Score: 5

9:10pm Tue 13 May 14

salvadore says...

Birtrumthegreat wrote:
salvadore wrote:
Birtrumthegreat wrote:
salvadore wrote:
phil kernot wrote:
Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,
People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.
As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.
If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.
Tigger may have charged in to a room and bounced on a few people, but he never wore an explosive vest, just so he could copulate with a few virgins in the afterlife. As far as I know, Piglet has never worn a cassock and interfered with young boys in his care, like Christopher Robin , then shared his sordid photos on the internet. If you need an imaginary friend, I suggest you look no further than the tooth fairy, she's a nice lady who's never orchestrated any floods, plagues of locust or famines.
Listen you may not want believe in a supreme being, but my point was made wars have been started by an atheist such as hitler. Tribes have fought each other because of local traditions or difference of opinions. You've been debunked so leave the discussions for grown ups.
[quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birtrumthegreat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil kernot[/bold] wrote: Religion shouldn't come into it ,,, to get a good education ,,, don't forget to tell the children most of the wars and unrest is caused by religion ,,, won't do that will you ,,,[/p][/quote]People cause war not religion, religion is the excuse. If it wernt religion it would have been something else.[/p][/quote]As far as I know, no one has fought a war over the words written in 'The house at Pooh corner'. If you are looking for spiritual guidance I would recommend this.[/p][/quote]If I were you I'd get a history lesson, hitler athiest amongst many non religious murderers. You stick to your pooh corner you seem to be talking a lot of s..t it seems to be rubbing of in you.[/p][/quote]Tigger may have charged in to a room and bounced on a few people, but he never wore an explosive vest, just so he could copulate with a few virgins in the afterlife. As far as I know, Piglet has never worn a cassock and interfered with young boys in his care, like Christopher Robin , then shared his sordid photos on the internet. If you need an imaginary friend, I suggest you look no further than the tooth fairy, she's a nice lady who's never orchestrated any floods, plagues of locust or famines.[/p][/quote]Listen you may not want believe in a supreme being, but my point was made wars have been started by an atheist such as hitler. Tribes have fought each other because of local traditions or difference of opinions. You've been debunked so leave the discussions for grown ups. salvadore
  • Score: -4

9:32pm Tue 13 May 14

chammy says...

This has always happened in schools,its not worthy of being called news,surely theres much more to report than this.
This has always happened in schools,its not worthy of being called news,surely theres much more to report than this. chammy
  • Score: 5

10:35pm Tue 13 May 14

Ossyosssyossy says...

Religion is a total waste of time anyway!
Religion is a total waste of time anyway! Ossyosssyossy
  • Score: 3

11:21pm Tue 13 May 14

wilddog says...

moxhie wrote:
salvadore wrote:
This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.
If you look around the schools in Lancashire you will find that Catholic schools admit many pupils of other faiths .

The local Catholic High school near me has one third of its pupils who are Muslim .
like many other schools!
[quote][p][bold]moxhie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]salvadore[/bold] wrote: This is the problem, the CofE and RC schools don't allow many from other faiths and this has been going on for decades. The moment a Muslim school opens everyone screams where's the community cohesion. Well where is the community cohesion in this school and what is it doing for integration? The non Christian community are left with the left over schools.[/p][/quote]If you look around the schools in Lancashire you will find that Catholic schools admit many pupils of other faiths . The local Catholic High school near me has one third of its pupils who are Muslim .[/p][/quote]like many other schools! wilddog
  • Score: 0

7:53am Wed 14 May 14

Excluded again says...

This is the problem when you let faith groups run state schools.

Admission to state schools should be based on three criteria. Do you have a brother and sister already at the school. Are there any special reasons you need to go to the school (e.g. it has good wheelchair access and you are disabled). How close do you live to school.

Which religious building your parents take you to on a Sunday should have no more influence on getting into a state school than which supermarket they go to.
This is the problem when you let faith groups run state schools. Admission to state schools should be based on three criteria. Do you have a brother and sister already at the school. Are there any special reasons you need to go to the school (e.g. it has good wheelchair access and you are disabled). How close do you live to school. Which religious building your parents take you to on a Sunday should have no more influence on getting into a state school than which supermarket they go to. Excluded again
  • Score: 11

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