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Man fined for parking at Darwen bus stop that’s no longer there

Lancashire Telegraph: Clifford Ball at the former bus stop site where he got a parking ticket. The new stop is in the background Clifford Ball at the former bus stop site where he got a parking ticket. The new stop is in the background

A MAN has slammed ‘over zealous’ parking attendants who have given him a ticket for parking in a bus stop that is no longer in use.

Clifford Ball was given the ticket and a £70 fine for parking in the disused bus stop near the former Cemetery pub in Cemetery Road, Darwen.

The stop was moved several yards up the road some months ago as part of the £50million Pennine Reach scheme to improve public transport in the region.

But painted lines remain on the road marking out where the old stop was, which is where Mr Ball had parked.

Mr Ball, who received the ticket on April 3, said he appealed but it was upheld, with the council claiming that parking in the bus stop would hinder access to buses for passengers, despite the fact that it was no longer a bus stop.

He said: “The bus stop is 20 yards away and I parked there so people would not have any problems.

“What annoys me is that I have done nothing wrong. It is completely unjustified.

“If I had taken a chance and parked illegally and been caught I would hold my hands up.”

Widower Mr Ball said he was reluctant to pay the fine.

He said: “I appealed it but it was rejected. I had a letter on Friday saying the fine stood, but if I paid within 14 days it would be halved to £35.

“To me it is just a stealth tax.

“It really winds me up when people park inconsiderately and I go out of my way not to do this.”

Mr Ball, a retired welder, has a son, Lee, and three grandchildren.

Whitehall councillor Karimeh Foster said the ticket should be withdrawn.

She said: “It is very harsh to fine him when the bus stop is no longer in use.

“If they move the bus stop and people know it is moving they should be able to park in it.

“They should cancel the ticket if there is no bus stop there. Where do they expect him to park?”

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12:02pm Wed 30 Apr 14

DaveBurnley says...

You can always rely on our local councils to play the stupidity card.
You can always rely on our local councils to play the stupidity card. DaveBurnley
  • Score: 24

12:04pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Somebody should have gone to Specsavers maybe !!!!!!
Another BwD Clowncil cockup ther're getting quite goo at them after years of practice. Congrats to your local councillor for showing logic in the matter.
Somebody should have gone to Specsavers maybe !!!!!! Another BwD Clowncil cockup ther're getting quite goo at them after years of practice. Congrats to your local councillor for showing logic in the matter. ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 24

1:42pm Wed 30 Apr 14

phil kernot says...

Simple don't pay,it go and appeal it the council might say there right but don't take there word for it if there's no road markings , make sure you appeal to the independent ombudsman and it will get thrown out. ,,,, I wish the let would stop using the word fine because its a penalty charge notice and you can appeal against it ,,, fines come from courts and judges not commercial company's ( capita ,,oh thay collect the tv licence too and you don't need to pay that either legally if you do your homework )
Simple don't pay,it go and appeal it the council might say there right but don't take there word for it if there's no road markings , make sure you appeal to the independent ombudsman and it will get thrown out. ,,,, I wish the let would stop using the word fine because its a penalty charge notice and you can appeal against it ,,, fines come from courts and judges not commercial company's ( capita ,,oh thay collect the tv licence too and you don't need to pay that either legally if you do your homework ) phil kernot
  • Score: 18

1:48pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Ian the Beancounter says...

Mr Ball should check this website:

http://www.moneysavi
ngexpert.com/reclaim
/parking-ticket-appe
als
Mr Ball should check this website: http://www.moneysavi ngexpert.com/reclaim /parking-ticket-appe als Ian the Beancounter
  • Score: 19

2:03pm Wed 30 Apr 14

HelpingDarwen says...

Man parks car on yellow line and gets a parking ticket. Thankfully this means it's a fairly quiet news day in Darren.
Man parks car on yellow line and gets a parking ticket. Thankfully this means it's a fairly quiet news day in Darren. HelpingDarwen
  • Score: -11

3:58pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bat E Karen says...

I've just been past there and the road markings start from right next to the shelter. It's not like there's the shelter, then a big gap, then the old markings. Pay up and stop whinging!

Having seen the evidence for myself, I wonder if the upcoming election has anything to do with the councillor's interest in the matter.
I've just been past there and the road markings start from right next to the shelter. It's not like there's the shelter, then a big gap, then the old markings. Pay up and stop whinging! Having seen the evidence for myself, I wonder if the upcoming election has anything to do with the councillor's interest in the matter. Bat E Karen
  • Score: 18

4:27pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Labster73 says...

The markings you refer to Karen are from the old bus stop. At the time the ticket was issued the new bus stop had been moved 15 yards up the road and the temporary bus stop, which was being used at the time as the stand was under construction, was even further up the road just outside the cemetery lodge house, which happens to be where residents used to park. The fact is that residents saw the situation and applied common sense and moved cars down to the old obsolete area so as NOT to cause blockage or hindrance to the busses. Unfortunately, parking officers with quotas to meet don't apply common sense.
The markings you refer to Karen are from the old bus stop. At the time the ticket was issued the new bus stop had been moved 15 yards up the road and the temporary bus stop, which was being used at the time as the stand was under construction, was even further up the road just outside the cemetery lodge house, which happens to be where residents used to park. The fact is that residents saw the situation and applied common sense and moved cars down to the old obsolete area so as NOT to cause blockage or hindrance to the busses. Unfortunately, parking officers with quotas to meet don't apply common sense. Labster73
  • Score: 21

9:04pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Malthus says...

HelpingDarwen wrote:
Man parks car on yellow line and gets a parking ticket. Thankfully this means it's a fairly quiet news day in Darren.
I agree, there were yellow lines on display and he took a chance. Unfortunately for him he was caught. It is not up to him to determine whether street markings are legitimate and enforceable. However, having said that, why did he not engage in a writing with those that impose the penalties and challenge the legitimacy of the lines; alternatively he could have contacted the Lancashire Telegraph in order alert everyone concerned about the pointlessness of these road markings. What I am more surprised at is the fact that a ticket was issued. I often see, (whatever Traffic Wardens call themselves these days), spending more time either in the town centre's shops or looking in the windows of the town centre shops.
[quote][p][bold]HelpingDarwen[/bold] wrote: Man parks car on yellow line and gets a parking ticket. Thankfully this means it's a fairly quiet news day in Darren.[/p][/quote]I agree, there were yellow lines on display and he took a chance. Unfortunately for him he was caught. It is not up to him to determine whether street markings are legitimate and enforceable. However, having said that, why did he not engage in a writing with those that impose the penalties and challenge the legitimacy of the lines; alternatively he could have contacted the Lancashire Telegraph in order alert everyone concerned about the pointlessness of these road markings. What I am more surprised at is the fact that a ticket was issued. I often see, (whatever Traffic Wardens call themselves these days), spending more time either in the town centre's shops or looking in the windows of the town centre shops. Malthus
  • Score: 15

10:55pm Wed 30 Apr 14

fireonthemountain says...

Yes indeed - absolutely ridiculous that this guy should have been given a ticket , though I echo surprise that one of these pointless-lazy-do-no
things-but-sponge-of
f-the-council-tax-pa
yers had gone up there .

Actually I'm amazed they can read and write .

Write to our MP , mate , Jake Berry is very , very good at helping out .
Yes indeed - absolutely ridiculous that this guy should have been given a ticket , though I echo surprise that one of these pointless-lazy-do-no things-but-sponge-of f-the-council-tax-pa yers had gone up there . Actually I'm amazed they can read and write . Write to our MP , mate , Jake Berry is very , very good at helping out . fireonthemountain
  • Score: 9

4:14pm Thu 1 May 14

Richard Pembrook says...

Looks like the car is parked on the pavement to me, blocking a pavement is also an offence & a nuisance & danger to all pedestrians.
Looks like the car is parked on the pavement to me, blocking a pavement is also an offence & a nuisance & danger to all pedestrians. Richard Pembrook
  • Score: -5

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