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East Lancashire teachers could strike again

Lancashire Telegraph: East Lancashire teachers could strike again East Lancashire teachers could strike again

TEACHERS could be set to walk out of schools in June over a long-running dispute over teachers' pay and workload.

Delegates at NUT conference in Brighton this weekend have debated a motion, which called on the union to co-ordinate national strike action in the week beginning Monday June 23, if ‘significant’ progress is not made in resolving the dispute.

The resolution does not rule out more than one day of strikes, and also leaves the door open for further industrial action in the autumn - a move which leaves hundreds of thousands of schoolchildren across England and Wales facing the prospect of school closures and disruption to lessons.

A final vote on the resolution has not yet been taken, and it will be debated again later in the conference, which will finish tomorrow.

The NASUWT, the largest teachers’ union, has also reaffirmed its industrial action strategy to continue to defend the interest of teachers and the teaching profession.

Claire Ward, who represents East Lancashire’s NASUWT members, said: “Our public education system is a promise we make to the nation’s children and young people that they will have opportunity, high quality, good outcomes and an expectation of success for all.

“This promise cannot be delivered unless governments recognise the centrality of the teacher workforce to securing these outcomes. “Attacks on teachers are attacks on children and young people.

“The NASUWT will engage constructively in the discussions as our members would expect us to.

“But the pressure is on the Secretary of State.

“NASUWT members remain committed to maintaining and, if necessary, escalating the current industrial action campaign, including moving to further strike action.”

Lancashire and Blackburn with Darwen representative for the NUT Simon Jones said: "We must put maximum possible pressure on Gove and the coalition Government to radically change their damaging policies towards education.

"We need a secretary of state who believes in treating teachers properly and respecting their professionalism." Dozens of schools were closed on March 26 during an earlier round of industrial action.

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11:13am Mon 21 Apr 14

Happy-Dude says...

Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.
Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy. Happy-Dude
  • Score: 2

11:30am Mon 21 Apr 14

Openminded? says...

Disgusted, that's all I can say. Its funny how the parents have to save every penny to afford an holiday during the holidays, but when parents want to take they children on Holiday during term time, they are threatened with fines. They say this is for the child's sake and child's education.

But teachers goes on strike, where is the child's education in this all??

I understand the attendance policy is set by the government, but why didn't the schools speak out when it was put in place?

Once the strike date is set, I for one will be contacting all the schools in the area and find out how many children and parents will be affected....
Disgusted, that's all I can say. Its funny how the parents have to save every penny to afford an holiday during the holidays, but when parents want to take they children on Holiday during term time, they are threatened with fines. They say this is for the child's sake and child's education. But teachers goes on strike, where is the child's education in this all?? I understand the attendance policy is set by the government, but why didn't the schools speak out when it was put in place? Once the strike date is set, I for one will be contacting all the schools in the area and find out how many children and parents will be affected.... Openminded?
  • Score: 1

11:47am Mon 21 Apr 14

TONY WALES says...

The dumbo's are not getting very far with all these strikes are they?

Losing money every time, all they get is an extra day's holiday, and a smaller bank balance.

Strikes don't pay the rent and the gas bill do they?
Quit while you still have a job?
Think smart.............
The dumbo's are not getting very far with all these strikes are they? Losing money every time, all they get is an extra day's holiday, and a smaller bank balance. Strikes don't pay the rent and the gas bill do they? Quit while you still have a job? Think smart............. TONY WALES
  • Score: 6

12:35pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

TONY WALES wrote:
The dumbo's are not getting very far with all these strikes are they?

Losing money every time, all they get is an extra day's holiday, and a smaller bank balance.

Strikes don't pay the rent and the gas bill do they?
Quit while you still have a job?
Think smart.............
Evidently they as not as smart as they purport to be
[quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: The dumbo's are not getting very far with all these strikes are they? Losing money every time, all they get is an extra day's holiday, and a smaller bank balance. Strikes don't pay the rent and the gas bill do they? Quit while you still have a job? Think smart.............[/p][/quote]Evidently they as not as smart as they purport to be ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 0

1:49pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Rich Riley says...

How to alienate the public, strike during exam time. These people don't deserve to be teaching kids, they obviously don't have any care whatsoever for the children.
How to alienate the public, strike during exam time. These people don't deserve to be teaching kids, they obviously don't have any care whatsoever for the children. Rich Riley
  • Score: 6

1:55pm Mon 21 Apr 14

burner says...

Have a look at today's BBC News web-site. Read the article " What hours do teachers really work ? " . . . . bit of an eye-opener.
Have a look at today's BBC News web-site. Read the article " What hours do teachers really work ? " . . . . bit of an eye-opener. burner
  • Score: 15

3:06pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Graham Hartley says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
TONY WALES wrote:
The dumbo's are not getting very far with all these strikes are they?

Losing money every time, all they get is an extra day's holiday, and a smaller bank balance.

Strikes don't pay the rent and the gas bill do they?
Quit while you still have a job?
Think smart.............
Evidently they as not as smart as they purport to be
There are some four hundred thousand teachers in the kingdom. Amongst so many there will be some who are as dumb as you want to claim, and there will be some who are smarter than you can imagine.
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TONY WALES[/bold] wrote: The dumbo's are not getting very far with all these strikes are they? Losing money every time, all they get is an extra day's holiday, and a smaller bank balance. Strikes don't pay the rent and the gas bill do they? Quit while you still have a job? Think smart.............[/p][/quote]Evidently they as not as smart as they purport to be[/p][/quote]There are some four hundred thousand teachers in the kingdom. Amongst so many there will be some who are as dumb as you want to claim, and there will be some who are smarter than you can imagine. Graham Hartley
  • Score: 2

7:04pm Mon 21 Apr 14

TheCaveman says...

Yet another example of public service employees engaging in what is essentially extortion from the taxpayer at the expense of kids, their education, and parents inconvenience. It's time this was stopped.
Yet another example of public service employees engaging in what is essentially extortion from the taxpayer at the expense of kids, their education, and parents inconvenience. It's time this was stopped. TheCaveman
  • Score: 5

8:26pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Good call says...

Happy-Dude wrote:
Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.
Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.
[quote][p][bold]Happy-Dude[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.[/p][/quote]Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country. Good call
  • Score: -1

9:11pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Happy-Dude says...

Good call wrote:
Happy-Dude wrote:
Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.
Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.
My Point is that all jobs have pros and cons and teachers are the only ones that feel hard done by, I back emergency services strikes which i pay taxes for, if they mess up then lives are at risk, teachers mess up and whats the worse that can happen?? I work 40 hours a week with only bank holidays and 1 week when I choose, teachers work 40-60 hours with all the school holidays and the same bank holidays. Teachers understood what was needed before becoming a teacher but yet still where happy to become one. Just think if all of us honest hard working people had strikes every 5 minutes, the country would not be run correctly. I agree with you about standing upto people, but some of us would lose our jobs paving the way for foreigners to take our place, also like someone said already why take it out on the exam takers by going on strike in june.
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happy-Dude[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.[/p][/quote]Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.[/p][/quote]My Point is that all jobs have pros and cons and teachers are the only ones that feel hard done by, I back emergency services strikes which i pay taxes for, if they mess up then lives are at risk, teachers mess up and whats the worse that can happen?? I work 40 hours a week with only bank holidays and 1 week when I choose, teachers work 40-60 hours with all the school holidays and the same bank holidays. Teachers understood what was needed before becoming a teacher but yet still where happy to become one. Just think if all of us honest hard working people had strikes every 5 minutes, the country would not be run correctly. I agree with you about standing upto people, but some of us would lose our jobs paving the way for foreigners to take our place, also like someone said already why take it out on the exam takers by going on strike in june. Happy-Dude
  • Score: -3

7:55am Tue 22 Apr 14

wilddog says...

Fine them 60 quid a time! Thats wot parents get when kids are out of school! No sympathy wot so ever !
Fine them 60 quid a time! Thats wot parents get when kids are out of school! No sympathy wot so ever ! wilddog
  • Score: 4

2:59pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Elegant1 says...

Happy-Dude wrote:
Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.
Looks like you are one of those that do not see the facts as to why someone would go on strike.
Teaching is one of the professions that do not withdraw their labour easily. They are dedicated to their role usually but just want to be heard. Decisions are being taken in the workplace that are not seen as a benefit to their role.
We have several teachers in our family and I can tell you personally that they are far more dedicated to their role than you could imagine.
Go and talk to teachers and try to find out why they would withdraw their labour then maybe you would see a differing side to your trite comments.
[quote][p][bold]Happy-Dude[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.[/p][/quote]Looks like you are one of those that do not see the facts as to why someone would go on strike. Teaching is one of the professions that do not withdraw their labour easily. They are dedicated to their role usually but just want to be heard. Decisions are being taken in the workplace that are not seen as a benefit to their role. We have several teachers in our family and I can tell you personally that they are far more dedicated to their role than you could imagine. Go and talk to teachers and try to find out why they would withdraw their labour then maybe you would see a differing side to your trite comments. Elegant1
  • Score: 2

3:38pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Elegant1 says...

Good call wrote:
Happy-Dude wrote:
Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.
Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.
When someone gets to the point where they need to withdraw their labour it may affect other families where they are working hard and need to do so to keep their head above water. Some even need to do more than one job usually because of the Zero Hours contracts that they freely enter into because they want to have the perks that are enjoyed by others more fortunate than they!
If any one of you are one of those who is working and keeping your head down, or enduring conditions that are barely conducive to a better standard of living that is up to you! But do not blame the child minders, who happen to teach as well, if you are inconvenienced by you having to take time off when dedicated people who have come the end of their tether in negotiations with their employer. That is their choice in protecting their pay and conditions.
Our erstwhile leaders last year attended the Bilderberg conference which had as one of their subjects "The need to drive down wages and conditions" that is exactly what this unelected swill is hell bent on doing! So good luck to the "Teacher" who is prepared to withdraw their labour. You make your choice so do not criticize them if they also make theirs!
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happy-Dude[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.[/p][/quote]Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.[/p][/quote]When someone gets to the point where they need to withdraw their labour it may affect other families where they are working hard and need to do so to keep their head above water. Some even need to do more than one job usually because of the Zero Hours contracts that they freely enter into because they want to have the perks that are enjoyed by others more fortunate than they! If any one of you are one of those who is working and keeping your head down, or enduring conditions that are barely conducive to a better standard of living that is up to you! But do not blame the child minders, who happen to teach as well, if you are inconvenienced by you having to take time off when dedicated people who have come the end of their tether in negotiations with their employer. That is their choice in protecting their pay and conditions. Our erstwhile leaders last year attended the Bilderberg conference which had as one of their subjects "The need to drive down wages and conditions" that is exactly what this unelected swill is hell bent on doing! So good luck to the "Teacher" who is prepared to withdraw their labour. You make your choice so do not criticize them if they also make theirs! Elegant1
  • Score: 1

11:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Graham Hartley says...

Good call wrote:
Happy-Dude wrote:
Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.
Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.
It's not disputed that the teachers' contracts have been changed. Standing against those changes is portrayed as ruinous for public finances. The blame might lie with those who first offered such attractive contracts, perhaps in order to attract and secure the services of those outpouring from the grammar schools - who might have settled for rather less.

I write as (an old) one in receipt of such enhanced benefit.
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happy-Dude[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging, you chose become a teacher and understood what was required and what the job pros and cons beforehand. In todays day and age its a job and we are all in the same boat with low pay, bad hours etc, you get many holidays when children are off school, more than a lot of us, also timing couldnt be better as the world cup is on and probably want time off to watch the footy.[/p][/quote]Maybe if the idiots like yourself had stood up and been counted when your pay and conditions were being ripped to shreds, then maybe you would have something better than the rubbish you have now, but actually standing up for yourself is beyond 90% of the country.[/p][/quote]It's not disputed that the teachers' contracts have been changed. Standing against those changes is portrayed as ruinous for public finances. The blame might lie with those who first offered such attractive contracts, perhaps in order to attract and secure the services of those outpouring from the grammar schools - who might have settled for rather less. I write as (an old) one in receipt of such enhanced benefit. Graham Hartley
  • Score: -1

6:13pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Oscar2 says...

Openminded? wrote:
Disgusted, that's all I can say. Its funny how the parents have to save every penny to afford an holiday during the holidays, but when parents want to take they children on Holiday during term time, they are threatened with fines. They say this is for the child's sake and child's education.

But teachers goes on strike, where is the child's education in this all??

I understand the attendance policy is set by the government, but why didn't the schools speak out when it was put in place?

Once the strike date is set, I for one will be contacting all the schools in the area and find out how many children and parents will be affected....
What are you talking about? It never ceases to amaze me where people get their information from. Get your facts straight and stop making false assumptions. Schools spoke out strongly and fought this attendance policy to the bitter end . However like every policy by Mr Gove it was driven through with little consultation. Do you know who gets the money from fining parents? Local Authority receive all the money - I'm sure that the over zealous fining of parents helps them to make up some of the money that they are loosing from central government. Stop blaming schools! This policy is nothing but indirect taxation of parents.
[quote][p][bold]Openminded?[/bold] wrote: Disgusted, that's all I can say. Its funny how the parents have to save every penny to afford an holiday during the holidays, but when parents want to take they children on Holiday during term time, they are threatened with fines. They say this is for the child's sake and child's education. But teachers goes on strike, where is the child's education in this all?? I understand the attendance policy is set by the government, but why didn't the schools speak out when it was put in place? Once the strike date is set, I for one will be contacting all the schools in the area and find out how many children and parents will be affected....[/p][/quote]What are you talking about? It never ceases to amaze me where people get their information from. Get your facts straight and stop making false assumptions. Schools spoke out strongly and fought this attendance policy to the bitter end . However like every policy by Mr Gove it was driven through with little consultation. Do you know who gets the money from fining parents? Local Authority receive all the money - I'm sure that the over zealous fining of parents helps them to make up some of the money that they are loosing from central government. Stop blaming schools! This policy is nothing but indirect taxation of parents. Oscar2
  • Score: 1

6:16pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Oscar2 says...

Openminded? wrote:
Disgusted, that's all I can say. Its funny how the parents have to save every penny to afford an holiday during the holidays, but when parents want to take they children on Holiday during term time, they are threatened with fines. They say this is for the child's sake and child's education.

But teachers goes on strike, where is the child's education in this all??

I understand the attendance policy is set by the government, but why didn't the schools speak out when it was put in place?

Once the strike date is set, I for one will be contacting all the schools in the area and find out how many children and parents will be affected....
And teachers also have to save hard to take their own children on holidays in school holiday times! Parents who aren't teachers haven't got the monopoly on this!!
[quote][p][bold]Openminded?[/bold] wrote: Disgusted, that's all I can say. Its funny how the parents have to save every penny to afford an holiday during the holidays, but when parents want to take they children on Holiday during term time, they are threatened with fines. They say this is for the child's sake and child's education. But teachers goes on strike, where is the child's education in this all?? I understand the attendance policy is set by the government, but why didn't the schools speak out when it was put in place? Once the strike date is set, I for one will be contacting all the schools in the area and find out how many children and parents will be affected....[/p][/quote]And teachers also have to save hard to take their own children on holidays in school holiday times! Parents who aren't teachers haven't got the monopoly on this!! Oscar2
  • Score: 0

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