Lancashire TelegraphBlackburn with Darwen residents 'least qualified' in Northwest (From Lancashire Telegraph)

When news happens, text LT and your photos and videos to 80360. Or contact us by email or phone.

Blackburn with Darwen residents 'least qualified' in Northwest

Lancashire Telegraph: Blackburn with Darwen residents 'least qualified' in Northwest Blackburn with Darwen residents 'least qualified' in Northwest

THOUSANDS of people living in East Lancashire have no qualifications and are among the least qualified in England, it has been revealed.

More than 20 per cent of residents aged between 16 and 64 in Blackburn with Darwen, Burnley, Pendle and Hyndburn do not have a single qualification to their name, figures released by the Office for National Statistics showed.

In Blackburn with Darwen, 21,230 people said they had no qualifications, 22.6 per cent of the population.

The figure is the worst in the north west, and ranked 12th out of 348 local authorities.

In Burnley, 12,026 people are completely unqualified, or 21.6 per cent of the population, making the town the 25th worst in England and Wales.

Pendle and Hyndburn also featured in the top 40, at 29th and 37th respectively.

The figures were described as ‘surprising’ by Burnley MP Gordon Birtwistle.

The LibDem said: “If you look at the other side of the coin, 80 per cent of people in Burnley do have qualifications, but I’m surprised the figure is so low.

“If you look at the younger people, it will be higher, but people in their 50s and 60s were brought up to go to work. We left school at 15 with no qualifications, got an apprenticeship and job.

“You don’t need qualifications to do everything although they are helpful. I left school with none but I went to night school and got some afterwards.”

Mr Birtwistle said the figures did not necessarily reflect badly on people from East Lancashire.

He added: “These people are probably harder working because if you don’t have qualifications, you have to work harder to succeed.”

Outgoing Blackburn MP Jack Straw said: “Schools and college standards have increased dramatically, especially since Blackburn with Darwen became a unitary authority, and in time we will move up the table.

Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Graham Jones added: “This goes back to the demise of the cotton industry, and the closing of the engineering works in the 80s. Skilled jobs have been replaced by low or no skilled jobs.

“A huge amount was put into education and training by the last Labour government but what you tend to find is people who go and get qualifications, and are forced to move out the area as they get promoted or seek jobs that suit their skills.”

In stark contrast to most of the figures, almost one third of Ribble Valley residents have qualifications from a higher education establishment, such as a university.

Ribble Valley came 300th out of 348 authorities for residents without qualifications.

Rossendale came 117th.

Comments (17)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

7:25pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Cimbri says...

Has anyone asked the opined MP's, just what qualifications that they hold, that are relevant to their jobs?
Has anyone asked the opined MP's, just what qualifications that they hold, that are relevant to their jobs? Cimbri
  • Score: 14

8:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

LancsLad92 says...

What is the incentive to get a degree? I'm not surprised people aren't getting qualified to degree standard, there aren't many skilled jobs going and even if there are they are mostly apprenticeships.

It seems like entry-level jobs are being filled by degree level workers and skilled jobs are being filled by apprentices. Don't get me wrong apprenticeships are a great way to get young people into work but there are a lot going and to jobs that should be finding skilled workers not school leavers. There's not enough being done for people who are up to their eyeballs in debt from student loans.
What is the incentive to get a degree? I'm not surprised people aren't getting qualified to degree standard, there aren't many skilled jobs going and even if there are they are mostly apprenticeships. It seems like entry-level jobs are being filled by degree level workers and skilled jobs are being filled by apprentices. Don't get me wrong apprenticeships are a great way to get young people into work but there are a lot going and to jobs that should be finding skilled workers not school leavers. There's not enough being done for people who are up to their eyeballs in debt from student loans. LancsLad92
  • Score: 10

9:20pm Tue 8 Apr 14

A Darener says...

What is the minimum qualification they are classing as a qualification?
What is the minimum qualification they are classing as a qualification? A Darener
  • Score: 10

9:31pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Bat E Karen says...

I'm sure many people have qualifications that have absolutely nothing to do with their job. Experience is worth far more to most employers.
I'm sure many people have qualifications that have absolutely nothing to do with their job. Experience is worth far more to most employers. Bat E Karen
  • Score: 9

9:34pm Tue 8 Apr 14

A Darener says...

Each month you pay back 9% of any income over £21,000.

Your income per year Monthly repayments
£21,000 and under No repayments
£25,000 £30
£30,000 £67
£40,000 £142
£50,000 £217
Hardly a hardship!
Each month you pay back 9% of any income over £21,000. Your income per year Monthly repayments £21,000 and under No repayments £25,000 £30 £30,000 £67 £40,000 £142 £50,000 £217 Hardly a hardship! A Darener
  • Score: 15

10:00pm Tue 8 Apr 14

burner says...

My BAGA award will see me right.
My BAGA award will see me right. burner
  • Score: -5

10:38pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Mothernature says...

Qualifactions mean diddly squat in this neck of the woods. Whether you're male or female, the likelihood is, you'll end up working in some minimum wage job. Very few jobs are paying a decent rate for skilled workers & you're lucky if you get £6.50 per hour for such work, but the employers like it that way. All the jobs for those getting the qualifications are down South, but the further North you go, the work is physically harder & a lot less pay. Not everyone can, will or wants to go down South.
Qualifactions mean diddly squat in this neck of the woods. Whether you're male or female, the likelihood is, you'll end up working in some minimum wage job. Very few jobs are paying a decent rate for skilled workers & you're lucky if you get £6.50 per hour for such work, but the employers like it that way. All the jobs for those getting the qualifications are down South, but the further North you go, the work is physically harder & a lot less pay. Not everyone can, will or wants to go down South. Mothernature
  • Score: 8

11:08pm Tue 8 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

If if unqualified they are probably more qualified in the university of life than the majority of Bburn Clowncil
If if unqualified they are probably more qualified in the university of life than the majority of Bburn Clowncil ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 6

11:37pm Tue 8 Apr 14

ikap22 says...

Too right, they backwards as well as uneducated.
Too right, they backwards as well as uneducated. ikap22
  • Score: 5

11:53pm Tue 8 Apr 14

123Jon123 says...

Mothernature wrote:
Qualifactions mean diddly squat in this neck of the woods. Whether you're male or female, the likelihood is, you'll end up working in some minimum wage job. Very few jobs are paying a decent rate for skilled workers & you're lucky if you get £6.50 per hour for such work, but the employers like it that way. All the jobs for those getting the qualifications are down South, but the further North you go, the work is physically harder & a lot less pay. Not everyone can, will or wants to go down South.
How on earth can you qualify a statement like that? Maybe I'm in the minority here but I attained various qualifications whilst living in the North West and secured an excellent job in the health sector. I now live in Devon and can assure you that although I've moved NHS trusts the work is still as equally hard as it was in the North West and I'm in the same pay banding. It certainly isn't more physical though, although it's much warmer which is great at weekends.
[quote][p][bold]Mothernature[/bold] wrote: Qualifactions mean diddly squat in this neck of the woods. Whether you're male or female, the likelihood is, you'll end up working in some minimum wage job. Very few jobs are paying a decent rate for skilled workers & you're lucky if you get £6.50 per hour for such work, but the employers like it that way. All the jobs for those getting the qualifications are down South, but the further North you go, the work is physically harder & a lot less pay. Not everyone can, will or wants to go down South.[/p][/quote]How on earth can you qualify a statement like that? Maybe I'm in the minority here but I attained various qualifications whilst living in the North West and secured an excellent job in the health sector. I now live in Devon and can assure you that although I've moved NHS trusts the work is still as equally hard as it was in the North West and I'm in the same pay banding. It certainly isn't more physical though, although it's much warmer which is great at weekends. 123Jon123
  • Score: 8

1:10am Wed 9 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

Cimbri wrote:
Has anyone asked the opined MP's, just what qualifications that they hold, that are relevant to their jobs?
Being good with bulls**t is the one most accepted by the Clowncil
[quote][p][bold]Cimbri[/bold] wrote: Has anyone asked the opined MP's, just what qualifications that they hold, that are relevant to their jobs?[/p][/quote]Being good with bulls**t is the one most accepted by the Clowncil ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 9

1:12am Wed 9 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
If if unqualified they are probably more qualified in the university of life than the majority of Bburn Clowncil
So the solution might be if your an unqualified B**sh*ter join the Clowncil
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: If if unqualified they are probably more qualified in the university of life than the majority of Bburn Clowncil[/p][/quote]So the solution might be if your an unqualified B**sh*ter join the Clowncil ConcernedOssy
  • Score: 5

2:08am Wed 9 Apr 14

WilmarSmiley says...

.Something not quite right here.
I attach a quote taken from Blackburn College web-site tonight:

We’ve been rated ‘Outstanding’ by the education regulator Ofsted making us one of the best Colleges in the country.
In addition to this, students at Blackburn College have once again achieved excellent results across the whole college:

I have no idea how many student attend Blackburn College/University, but looking at the size of the place there must be a good number - are they not local and do they not feature in the data supplied by the Office for National Statistics?

We are, of course talking higher education here. Everybody and their dog seems to leave secondary school with 5 GCSE grades A to C - or so we seem to be told .
.Something not quite right here. I attach a quote taken from Blackburn College web-site tonight: We’ve been rated ‘Outstanding’ by the education regulator Ofsted making us one of the best Colleges in the country. In addition to this, students at Blackburn College have once again achieved excellent results across the whole college: I have no idea how many student attend Blackburn College/University, but looking at the size of the place there must be a good number - are they not local and do they not feature in the data supplied by the Office for National Statistics? We are, of course talking higher education here. Everybody and their dog seems to leave secondary school with 5 GCSE grades A to C - or so we seem to be told . WilmarSmiley
  • Score: 6

7:20am Wed 9 Apr 14

BuckoTheMoose says...

Unusual to see an MP not jumping on a bandwagon here. I would expect Gordon Birtwhistle to say that these figures are shocking, that something must be done and to demand the government spend some money.

Quite refreshing.

I have a long string of qualifications for public house management and tenancy. Unfortunately the last government closed all the pubs and now I work in a job that I have no qualifications for. Had to start at the bottom back in 2008.

Oh well.
Unusual to see an MP not jumping on a bandwagon here. I would expect Gordon Birtwhistle to say that these figures are shocking, that something must be done and to demand the government spend some money. Quite refreshing. I have a long string of qualifications for public house management and tenancy. Unfortunately the last government closed all the pubs and now I work in a job that I have no qualifications for. Had to start at the bottom back in 2008. Oh well. BuckoTheMoose
  • Score: 5

8:35am Wed 9 Apr 14

rudis_dad says...

LancsLad92 wrote:
What is the incentive to get a degree? I'm not surprised people aren't getting qualified to degree standard, there aren't many skilled jobs going and even if there are they are mostly apprenticeships.

It seems like entry-level jobs are being filled by degree level workers and skilled jobs are being filled by apprentices. Don't get me wrong apprenticeships are a great way to get young people into work but there are a lot going and to jobs that should be finding skilled workers not school leavers. There's not enough being done for people who are up to their eyeballs in debt from student loans.
Having a degree does NOT make you a skilled worker - it shows that you can be educated to that standard, nothing more. A skilled worker is one who has trained to do the job, on the job, and has gained the qualifications whilst doing so. The education system is still labouring under the delusion (and forcing it on students) that a degree is the key to getting a job - it isn't necessarily, because a degree only gives you the theory, NOT the practical skills. Anyone who gets a degree in medicine does immediately become a doctor; a law degree does not give you the right to call yourself a lawyer. Once the degree has been obtained, then and only then does the hard work begin to gain the practical skills that your degree gives you the foundation to build on. I've worked inengineering for 25 years or more. I don't have a degree but I have more practical skills and knowledge than you can shake a stick at. I work with four graduates who can theorise me under the table, but when it comes to the actual practicalites of doing the job, they haven't got a clue.
[quote][p][bold]LancsLad92[/bold] wrote: What is the incentive to get a degree? I'm not surprised people aren't getting qualified to degree standard, there aren't many skilled jobs going and even if there are they are mostly apprenticeships. It seems like entry-level jobs are being filled by degree level workers and skilled jobs are being filled by apprentices. Don't get me wrong apprenticeships are a great way to get young people into work but there are a lot going and to jobs that should be finding skilled workers not school leavers. There's not enough being done for people who are up to their eyeballs in debt from student loans.[/p][/quote]Having a degree does NOT make you a skilled worker - it shows that you can be educated to that standard, nothing more. A skilled worker is one who has trained to do the job, on the job, and has gained the qualifications whilst doing so. The education system is still labouring under the delusion (and forcing it on students) that a degree is the key to getting a job - it isn't necessarily, because a degree only gives you the theory, NOT the practical skills. Anyone who gets a degree in medicine does immediately become a doctor; a law degree does not give you the right to call yourself a lawyer. Once the degree has been obtained, then and only then does the hard work begin to gain the practical skills that your degree gives you the foundation to build on. I've worked inengineering for 25 years or more. I don't have a degree but I have more practical skills and knowledge than you can shake a stick at. I work with four graduates who can theorise me under the table, but when it comes to the actual practicalites of doing the job, they haven't got a clue. rudis_dad
  • Score: 8

8:45am Wed 9 Apr 14

A Darener says...

I served my time as an electrical/electroni
c apprentice. Gaining engineering qualifications both in work and at college. I advanced into electronic design as a leading draughtsman and mentor for apprentices and university graduates. Those graduates arrived in the dept knowing nothing about working practices. It was my job to educate them in the ways of actual industry. Within 6/12 months of moving on they were promoted to posts one or two grades above me who had been doing the job for 25 years. So qualifications get you advanced. They do not guarantee that they know what they are doing.
I served my time as an electrical/electroni c apprentice. Gaining engineering qualifications both in work and at college. I advanced into electronic design as a leading draughtsman and mentor for apprentices and university graduates. Those graduates arrived in the dept knowing nothing about working practices. It was my job to educate them in the ways of actual industry. Within 6/12 months of moving on they were promoted to posts one or two grades above me who had been doing the job for 25 years. So qualifications get you advanced. They do not guarantee that they know what they are doing. A Darener
  • Score: 7

9:59am Wed 9 Apr 14

Cimbri says...

ConcernedOssy wrote:
Cimbri wrote:
Has anyone asked the opined MP's, just what qualifications that they hold, that are relevant to their jobs?
Being good with bulls**t is the one most accepted by the Clowncil
I'll let you 'in' on a little secret that has thrown a spanner in the works of the Cathedral Quarter, thanks to the highly qualified people in the Planning Dept of Clown Hall.
During a chance conversation, it was mentioned that the taxi rank on the Boulevard, was moving under the canopy of the railway station entrance and that the little island at the junction of Railway Rd and Jubilee St was to be torn up. Problem is, nobody in any of the affected businesses had been told of these plans, even though they have been in planning since 2004!
Not a single piece of paper had been passed to anyone that might want to have a say in it. No Public Notices in the papers, nor tied to to lamposts, as they usually do.
Asking around the neighbouring businesses, nobody seemed to have a clue how these plans would affect them or that they had even been passed at all! Some did the modern thing and searched the Planning Dept of the Council, to see if they had been posted on there but there was, nothing.
A phonecall to Cllr Mo Bateson, head of Regeneration, to see if she knew about it, produced someone from Planning, who had to hastily stop the proposed works, until all the proper processes have been gone through.
The best-laid plans of mice and men...
Watch this space, for more shenanigans, from the office of those that plot and plan, to ruin this town.
[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cimbri[/bold] wrote: Has anyone asked the opined MP's, just what qualifications that they hold, that are relevant to their jobs?[/p][/quote]Being good with bulls**t is the one most accepted by the Clowncil[/p][/quote]I'll let you 'in' on a little secret that has thrown a spanner in the works of the Cathedral Quarter, thanks to the highly qualified people in the Planning Dept of Clown Hall. During a chance conversation, it was mentioned that the taxi rank on the Boulevard, was moving under the canopy of the railway station entrance and that the little island at the junction of Railway Rd and Jubilee St was to be torn up. Problem is, nobody in any of the affected businesses had been told of these plans, even though they have been in planning since 2004! Not a single piece of paper had been passed to anyone that might want to have a say in it. No Public Notices in the papers, nor tied to to lamposts, as they usually do. Asking around the neighbouring businesses, nobody seemed to have a clue how these plans would affect them or that they had even been passed at all! Some did the modern thing and searched the Planning Dept of the Council, to see if they had been posted on there but there was, nothing. A phonecall to Cllr Mo Bateson, head of Regeneration, to see if she knew about it, produced someone from Planning, who had to hastily stop the proposed works, until all the proper processes have been gone through. The best-laid plans of mice and men... Watch this space, for more shenanigans, from the office of those that plot and plan, to ruin this town. Cimbri
  • Score: 10

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree