Calls for forgotten Ribble Valley railway stations to be re-opened

The plan would afford better links to Blackburn and other towns, Mr Brass said

The plan would afford better links to Blackburn and other towns, Mr Brass said

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A RIBBLE Valley man has launched a campaign for two train stations to be refurbished and reopened after a ‘25-year’ wait.

Peter Brass, 53, from Clitheroe, is calling on the borough council, Lancashire County Council and the government to re-open the stations in Gisburn and Chatburn after the idea was first mentioned in the late 1980s.

Mr Brass, who owns a newsagents in the town, said the stations would ‘take thousands’ of vehicles off the roads to and from Blackburn every day, ‘significantly’ reducing congestion and emissions.

The idea of reopening the Ribble Valley stations was first mooted in 1989 and received support from Conservative MP Michael Portillo at the time.

However, nothing came of the original plans and Mr Brass is ‘determined’ to petition the councils and the government to reconsider the idea.

Mr Brass also said that stations would be a ‘huge boost’ to the borough because of the ‘increased public transport’ in the area.

He said: “I don’t really understand why nothing happened after the idea was first talked about in 1989.

“It would take thousands of vehicles off the roads every day which would be very positive for the environment.

“It would also help people save hundreds of pounds a year because train passes are a lot cheaper than bus passes.

“Trains also run a lot more frequently than buses and for a lot longer into the evening which will make a huge difference.

“The stations would be the closest for many many people in the Ribble Valley and I think that it makes a lot of sense.”

As part of the campaign, Mr Brass is considering holding public meetings and starting a petition to hand to the councils and the government.

A spokesman for Lancashire County Council said: “The council recognises that rail connectivity is key to improving transport in East Lancashire and a study is being carried out as part of the Highways and Transport Masterplan for East Lancashire.”

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1:16pm Sun 6 Apr 14

shytalk says...

Peter Brass is absolutely 100% correct. There should also be a station/halt at Chatburn, and a service through to Settle and not just on Sundays.
Peter Brass is absolutely 100% correct. There should also be a station/halt at Chatburn, and a service through to Settle and not just on Sundays. shytalk
  • Score: 25

2:47pm Sun 6 Apr 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Prat of the week award this week goes to Mr Peter Brass.
Millions of pounds it would cost and there would be 8 people a day would use it.
Prat of the week award this week goes to Mr Peter Brass. Millions of pounds it would cost and there would be 8 people a day would use it. 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: -26

3:21pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Cimbri says...

I am sure that Michael Portillo was more involved in the saving of the whole of the Carlisle to Settle line, rather that the various stations along the way. It is said that Mrs Thatcher had taken his advice on whether or not that line should close or not. However, given his interest in railway travel, it cannot but help your cause to have him onside, as you seek to open your stations again. (email michael@michaelporti
llo.co.uk)
The station, local to my parents home in Wetheral, was closed in the Beeching cuts of the Sixties but managed to be reopened in the Eighties after a pressure group was formed. With just 14000 journeys being made either to or from there, with a population of around 5000, it proves that, even the most rural of stations, has the potential to generate some revenue, if you only give them a chance.
Although unmanned, with the ticket office being boarded up and the station masters house in private hands, many contribute their time in maintaining this picturesque little station, to an extremely high standard, with many of the volunteers, returning to the station, long after they have given up trainspotting and left the village itself.
It's not unusual to see grown men, one Sunday per month, alight from the train to Carlisle, sweep both platforms and the footbridge, clear of any leaves or litter and then get on the train back to Newcastle, like a bizarre scene from Monty Python and better yet, nobody knows who they are!
Local landmarks and woodland walks have seen the rise in the popularity of this little place over the years, with surprising numbers, just enjoying a picnic walk, in the Summer time.
So really, what you should hope for, is to be given the status of a request stop and let it go from there, as often, simple word of mouth is the greatest advert for any service.
Although, to be honest, the condition of cleanliness on some of these trains, leaves a lot to be desired. I recently travelled on an early one to Burnley and it smelled like it had been mopped with water, that had been left standing for some time.
I am sure that Michael Portillo was more involved in the saving of the whole of the Carlisle to Settle line, rather that the various stations along the way. It is said that Mrs Thatcher had taken his advice on whether or not that line should close or not. However, given his interest in railway travel, it cannot but help your cause to have him onside, as you seek to open your stations again. (email michael@michaelporti llo.co.uk) The station, local to my parents home in Wetheral, was closed in the Beeching cuts of the Sixties but managed to be reopened in the Eighties after a pressure group was formed. With just 14000 journeys being made either to or from there, with a population of around 5000, it proves that, even the most rural of stations, has the potential to generate some revenue, if you only give them a chance. Although unmanned, with the ticket office being boarded up and the station masters house in private hands, many contribute their time in maintaining this picturesque little station, to an extremely high standard, with many of the volunteers, returning to the station, long after they have given up trainspotting and left the village itself. It's not unusual to see grown men, one Sunday per month, alight from the train to Carlisle, sweep both platforms and the footbridge, clear of any leaves or litter and then get on the train back to Newcastle, like a bizarre scene from Monty Python and better yet, nobody knows who they are! Local landmarks and woodland walks have seen the rise in the popularity of this little place over the years, with surprising numbers, just enjoying a picnic walk, in the Summer time. So really, what you should hope for, is to be given the status of a request stop and let it go from there, as often, simple word of mouth is the greatest advert for any service. Although, to be honest, the condition of cleanliness on some of these trains, leaves a lot to be desired. I recently travelled on an early one to Burnley and it smelled like it had been mopped with water, that had been left standing for some time. Cimbri
  • Score: 14

4:30pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Steven Seagull says...

Erm....wouldn't the line have to be opened full time to passenger travel first???
Erm....wouldn't the line have to be opened full time to passenger travel first??? Steven Seagull
  • Score: 1

4:57pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Copperhead says...

Trains are more frequent than buses ?
Train passes are cheaper than bus passes ?
THOUSANDS of vehicles off the road EVERY DAY ??
From Chatburn and Gisburn ??????????????

Could Mr. Brass please inform us all of the name of his home planet and if there is any intelligent life there ?
Trains are more frequent than buses ? Train passes are cheaper than bus passes ? THOUSANDS of vehicles off the road EVERY DAY ?? From Chatburn and Gisburn ?????????????? Could Mr. Brass please inform us all of the name of his home planet and if there is any intelligent life there ? Copperhead
  • Score: -4

5:11pm Sun 6 Apr 14

shytalk says...

Copperhead wrote:
Trains are more frequent than buses ?
Train passes are cheaper than bus passes ?
THOUSANDS of vehicles off the road EVERY DAY ??
From Chatburn and Gisburn ??????????????

Could Mr. Brass please inform us all of the name of his home planet and if there is any intelligent life there ?
That's what they all said before they re opened the line to Clitheroe..It is now one of the most profitable in the NW
[quote][p][bold]Copperhead[/bold] wrote: Trains are more frequent than buses ? Train passes are cheaper than bus passes ? THOUSANDS of vehicles off the road EVERY DAY ?? From Chatburn and Gisburn ?????????????? Could Mr. Brass please inform us all of the name of his home planet and if there is any intelligent life there ?[/p][/quote]That's what they all said before they re opened the line to Clitheroe..It is now one of the most profitable in the NW shytalk
  • Score: 16

6:57pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Lord_Lucan says...

What a lot of daydreaming men in anoraks with a duffle bag and notebook. Get a life and a sense of realism. Just keep dreaming of steam trains being brought back.
What a lot of daydreaming men in anoraks with a duffle bag and notebook. Get a life and a sense of realism. Just keep dreaming of steam trains being brought back. Lord_Lucan
  • Score: -12

7:29pm Sun 6 Apr 14

charmed-one says...

Steven Seagull wrote:
2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Prat of the week award this week goes to Mr Peter Brass.
Millions of pounds it would cost and there would be 8 people a day would use it.
The TW@t of the week award has your name on it every week without fail.
Spot on!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Steven Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Prat of the week award this week goes to Mr Peter Brass. Millions of pounds it would cost and there would be 8 people a day would use it.[/p][/quote]The TW@t of the week award has your name on it every week without fail.[/p][/quote]Spot on!!!!!!! charmed-one
  • Score: 12

9:45am Mon 7 Apr 14

edmy says...

It will never get off the ground. Its to sensible of an idea. Our councils and government don't do sensible and common-sense
It will never get off the ground. Its to sensible of an idea. Our councils and government don't do sensible and common-sense edmy
  • Score: 4

1:38pm Mon 7 Apr 14

vicn1956 says...

Get on with it.
Get on with it. vicn1956
  • Score: 1

1:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Noiticer says...

This idea is a non-starter in the current climate. Building a new station from scratch now costs around £5 millions without the cost of land acquisition and access. Any regular train service calling at the stations at Chatburn and Gisburn would need rolling stock (currently not available) and a massive subsidy. The original stations closed before the Beeching Report because the service was losing large sums of money. There are hundreds of locations on the rail network where a new station would be a far more economically sensible idea but, again the funding issue is the problem. In an ideal world many closed lines and stations should be rebuilt but until the transport policies of this and future governments are realigned towards public transport and railfreight and away from roads and private cars and road haulage progress will be be stifled.
This idea is a non-starter in the current climate. Building a new station from scratch now costs around £5 millions without the cost of land acquisition and access. Any regular train service calling at the stations at Chatburn and Gisburn would need rolling stock (currently not available) and a massive subsidy. The original stations closed before the Beeching Report because the service was losing large sums of money. There are hundreds of locations on the rail network where a new station would be a far more economically sensible idea but, again the funding issue is the problem. In an ideal world many closed lines and stations should be rebuilt but until the transport policies of this and future governments are realigned towards public transport and railfreight and away from roads and private cars and road haulage progress will be be stifled. Noiticer
  • Score: -5

9:08pm Thu 17 Apr 14

fireonthemountain says...

Well my wife and I just nipping to somewhere near XXX tomorrow .

Let us compare .

By bus - almost six hours !! Various changes , didn't even bother
looking at prices + taxi from bus station to hotel of course .

By train - over three hours , various changes + taxi as above .
Cost for return fare ? £65.50 EACH !!!

That , of course is assuming public transport is running on Good Friday .

By car - just under two hours , no taxis , no changes , come and go when we please , no humping a suitcase about , Cost ? - nowhere near £50 .

Gosh - what a difficult decision !
Well my wife and I just nipping to somewhere near XXX tomorrow . Let us compare . By bus - almost six hours !! Various changes , didn't even bother looking at prices + taxi from bus station to hotel of course . By train - over three hours , various changes + taxi as above . Cost for return fare ? £65.50 EACH !!! That , of course is assuming public transport is running on Good Friday . By car - just under two hours , no taxis , no changes , come and go when we please , no humping a suitcase about , Cost ? - nowhere near £50 . Gosh - what a difficult decision ! fireonthemountain
  • Score: 0

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