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Blackburn homes plagued with mould

Lancashire Telegraph: Blackburn homes plagued with mould Blackburn homes plagued with mould

FAMILIES whose homes are plagued with damp and mould have launched a Facebook campaign, calling for action.

Members of the group hope to put pressure on Twin Valley Homes by sharing their stories and photographs of their problems.

Marie Frith, who started the Facebook page, said: “I have four children aged six, eight, 11 and 12 and it is affecting their health and I’m worried about them. Why should we put up with this?”

Marie, her partner Chris and their four children moved into the house in Oozehead Lane, Blackburn in December 2012 and noticed damp immediately.

Marie contacted Twin Valley who redecorated with anti-mould paint but she said the problems persisted.

She said her daughter’s room was so badly affected by mould that she refused to let her sleep in it.

Marie said: “This house is a joke. It needs knocking down. It just doesn’t feel like a home and I don’t know if I could face moving.

“My oldest son has a severe speech and language disorder and he can’t deal with change.

“When we talk about moving, he gets very upset.”

The Facebook page was started on December 31 and has already attracted 27 members.

Among them is 38-year-old Dani Ball, who has lived in her home in Oban Drive for three years.

She posted photographs showing black mould surrounding her light fittings and windows.

Mother-of-five Dani said: “It gets into everything. I’ve had to throw away shoes, pillows, clothes away because they get infested with the mould.

“I scrub the mould off the walls but nothing seems to work.

“Twin Valley just keep advising that we keep our windows open. We do as much as we can but at this time of year, it’s so cold and we can’t afford to sit with the heating on full with the windows open.”

Ian Bell, head of Twin Valley Homes, said: “We have invested significant resources at Oozehead Lane over the past few years to prevent problems in the property.

“For example, a positive ventilation system has been installed. Recently, we have identified some damp in the dining room, which we are dealing with.

“In the case at Oban Drive, we have fitted new window glass and vents to alleviate condensation problems.

“But we are sending an independent specialist contractor to inspect the property and give us a full report.”

Coun Mike Lee, leader of the opposition at Blackburn with Darwen Council said: “I have seen a lot of comments about damp and mould in Twin Valley accommodation.

“Nobody should be expected to live in houses that are experiencing problems like this.”

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9:10pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Why waste time setting up a facebook group? Hit them where it hurts in their pockets. Refuse to pay any rent until they fix the problems. Remember they are a business and they don't care about your living conditions its all about money to them.
Why waste time setting up a facebook group? Hit them where it hurts in their pockets. Refuse to pay any rent until they fix the problems. Remember they are a business and they don't care about your living conditions its all about money to them. Echo67
  • Score: 5

9:11pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning. Seasiders
  • Score: 14

9:15pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Mothernature says...

Why are social landlords allowed to get away with renting out properties that are unfit, yet private landlords, who rent out unfit properties are legally obliged to provide a home that must comply with housing laws.
Why are social landlords allowed to get away with renting out properties that are unfit, yet private landlords, who rent out unfit properties are legally obliged to provide a home that must comply with housing laws. Mothernature
  • Score: 22

9:24pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

Mothernature wrote:
Why are social landlords allowed to get away with renting out properties that are unfit, yet private landlords, who rent out unfit properties are legally obliged to provide a home that must comply with housing laws.
It is a condensation problem, and is common in most homes these days because they are so well insulated. Buy a de-humidifier (£100), open some windows to let the air flow. If you look at the pictures on Facebook the windows are covered in condensation. Why not wipe the mould down with bleach to try and help yourself instead of setting up Facebook pages? Condensation doesn't just effect social housing, it's just that people that pay their way tend to look after things as they have more respect for it!
[quote][p][bold]Mothernature[/bold] wrote: Why are social landlords allowed to get away with renting out properties that are unfit, yet private landlords, who rent out unfit properties are legally obliged to provide a home that must comply with housing laws.[/p][/quote]It is a condensation problem, and is common in most homes these days because they are so well insulated. Buy a de-humidifier (£100), open some windows to let the air flow. If you look at the pictures on Facebook the windows are covered in condensation. Why not wipe the mould down with bleach to try and help yourself instead of setting up Facebook pages? Condensation doesn't just effect social housing, it's just that people that pay their way tend to look after things as they have more respect for it! Seasiders
  • Score: 32

9:24pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from? Echo67
  • Score: 11

9:29pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Paul The Octopus Lives! says...

Get a job, get some cash together and move out to the house of your choice and standards. Twin Valley's will soon have no occupants left - that''ll learn em!
Get a job, get some cash together and move out to the house of your choice and standards. Twin Valley's will soon have no occupants left - that''ll learn em! Paul The Octopus Lives!
  • Score: 10

9:36pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

Echo67 wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?
Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?
[quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?[/p][/quote]Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property? Seasiders
  • Score: 26

9:37pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Pommie Art says...

Free accommodation is what they are getting, i can only presume some people are Dollopers & claiming everything they can from the state.
have the owners checked for the correct damp course at the base of the brickwork through the outside walls that is the norm for damp rising.

apart from that people cannot complain if the rest is free: if the dont like it them move away to other private rental homes then the real world shall kick in.
Free accommodation is what they are getting, i can only presume some people are Dollopers & claiming everything they can from the state. have the owners checked for the correct damp course at the base of the brickwork through the outside walls that is the norm for damp rising. apart from that people cannot complain if the rest is free: if the dont like it them move away to other private rental homes then the real world shall kick in. Pommie Art
  • Score: -1

9:39pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
Get a job, get some cash together and move out to the house of your choice and standards. Twin Valley's will soon have no occupants left - that''ll learn em!
Why do you assume that these people don't have jobs?
[quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Get a job, get some cash together and move out to the house of your choice and standards. Twin Valley's will soon have no occupants left - that''ll learn em![/p][/quote]Why do you assume that these people don't have jobs? Echo67
  • Score: 21

9:41pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Pommie Art says...

Echo67,
Please open your eyes: its not rocket science
Echo67, Please open your eyes: its not rocket science Pommie Art
  • Score: -6

9:41pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

Echo67 wrote:
Paul The Octopus Lives! wrote:
Get a job, get some cash together and move out to the house of your choice and standards. Twin Valley's will soon have no occupants left - that''ll learn em!
Why do you assume that these people don't have jobs?
They must be working around the clock as they certainly don't have time to maintain their homes.
[quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paul The Octopus Lives![/bold] wrote: Get a job, get some cash together and move out to the house of your choice and standards. Twin Valley's will soon have no occupants left - that''ll learn em![/p][/quote]Why do you assume that these people don't have jobs?[/p][/quote]They must be working around the clock as they certainly don't have time to maintain their homes. Seasiders
  • Score: 12

9:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Seasiders wrote:
Echo67 wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?
Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?
Oh i get it now everybody that doesn't own their own homes are on benefits.
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?[/p][/quote]Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?[/p][/quote]Oh i get it now everybody that doesn't own their own homes are on benefits. Echo67
  • Score: 8

9:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

This is my house I was working till depression if this house . My windows are open you come an live here and see how u feel yer . My life has been turned upside down living here . My children are suffering I'm suffering . We have done everything twin valley have said yes had lots of work done and still nothing has cured it .
This is my house I was working till depression if this house . My windows are open you come an live here and see how u feel yer . My life has been turned upside down living here . My children are suffering I'm suffering . We have done everything twin valley have said yes had lots of work done and still nothing has cured it . mazx4
  • Score: -7

9:48pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Pommie Art says...

Mould cannot be eradicated by simply wiping it away, there is a damp problem that must be fixed correctly & it is the responsibility of the land lord.

however these people don't do themselves any favors by going down the road they have by exposing this to the social media. how many kids at a young age, is this a recipe for not wanting to seek full time work or what
Mould cannot be eradicated by simply wiping it away, there is a damp problem that must be fixed correctly & it is the responsibility of the land lord. however these people don't do themselves any favors by going down the road they have by exposing this to the social media. how many kids at a young age, is this a recipe for not wanting to seek full time work or what Pommie Art
  • Score: 2

9:49pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Pommie Art wrote:
Echo67,
Please open your eyes: its not rocket science
Whats not rocket science? Are you suggesting that there is free housing in Blackburn?
[quote][p][bold]Pommie Art[/bold] wrote: Echo67, Please open your eyes: its not rocket science[/p][/quote]Whats not rocket science? Are you suggesting that there is free housing in Blackburn? Echo67
  • Score: 13

9:52pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

mazx4 wrote:
This is my house I was working till depression if this house . My windows are open you come an live here and see how u feel yer . My life has been turned upside down living here . My children are suffering I'm suffering . We have done everything twin valley have said yes had lots of work done and still nothing has cured it .
I have sympathy with your illness, but I don't really know what you expect from a property that you are not paying for? You complain it is cold when you open the windows but there are people on the streets who would gladly trade with you. Your flippant comments about knocking the house down show you have no respect for the privilege of being supported by the tax payer. You cannot expect to live in a super modern, stress free property when you are there for free, otherwise we'd all do instead of going to work and paying our way. Instead of contacting the papers, why not spend your time wiping the mould away and trying to help yourself a little?
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: This is my house I was working till depression if this house . My windows are open you come an live here and see how u feel yer . My life has been turned upside down living here . My children are suffering I'm suffering . We have done everything twin valley have said yes had lots of work done and still nothing has cured it .[/p][/quote]I have sympathy with your illness, but I don't really know what you expect from a property that you are not paying for? You complain it is cold when you open the windows but there are people on the streets who would gladly trade with you. Your flippant comments about knocking the house down show you have no respect for the privilege of being supported by the tax payer. You cannot expect to live in a super modern, stress free property when you are there for free, otherwise we'd all do instead of going to work and paying our way. Instead of contacting the papers, why not spend your time wiping the mould away and trying to help yourself a little? Seasiders
  • Score: 19

9:55pm Tue 7 Jan 14

workaholic says...

Here here! And these housing associations will be getting housing benefit payments paid directly by the council unlike private lanlords who are at the mercy of receiving their rent from any tenant who is on benefits - (once the tenant has been paid from the council.) So any of Twin Valleys tenants who are claiming housing benefit - and are unhappy - have no power to stop their rents being paid in any case.
Here here! And these housing associations will be getting housing benefit payments paid directly by the council unlike private lanlords who are at the mercy of receiving their rent from any tenant who is on benefits - (once the tenant has been paid from the council.) So any of Twin Valleys tenants who are claiming housing benefit - and are unhappy - have no power to stop their rents being paid in any case. workaholic
  • Score: 7

9:55pm Tue 7 Jan 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Pommie art and seasiders you two are so spot on.
Pommie art and seasiders you two are so spot on. 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: -6

10:00pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

I we also wipe the mould and guess what it comes back why should I go round cleaning mould that shouldn't be their in first place gosh some people think their it . Come and live in our houses and see how long you cope also dealing with a disabled child. .
I we also wipe the mould and guess what it comes back why should I go round cleaning mould that shouldn't be their in first place gosh some people think their it . Come and live in our houses and see how long you cope also dealing with a disabled child. . mazx4
  • Score: 0

10:05pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Pommie art and seasiders you two are so spot on.
They only spot they are on is the spot on cloud nine.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Pommie art and seasiders you two are so spot on.[/p][/quote]They only spot they are on is the spot on cloud nine. Echo67
  • Score: 6

10:08pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

mazx4 wrote:
I we also wipe the mould and guess what it comes back why should I go round cleaning mould that shouldn't be their in first place gosh some people think their it . Come and live in our houses and see how long you cope also dealing with a disabled child. .
So you want someone else to sort out your problems? Why? Why is it societies responsibility to sort you out? The problem with Britain these days is that people like you expect everything but want to do nothing to contribute. "Why should I go round cleaning mould?", for your own well being, for your families well being, or just for a little self pride???

Why are we blighted with this dosser generation? We shouldn't have any sympathy for people whose only response to a problem is to ask someone else to sort it for them!
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: I we also wipe the mould and guess what it comes back why should I go round cleaning mould that shouldn't be their in first place gosh some people think their it . Come and live in our houses and see how long you cope also dealing with a disabled child. .[/p][/quote]So you want someone else to sort out your problems? Why? Why is it societies responsibility to sort you out? The problem with Britain these days is that people like you expect everything but want to do nothing to contribute. "Why should I go round cleaning mould?", for your own well being, for your families well being, or just for a little self pride??? Why are we blighted with this dosser generation? We shouldn't have any sympathy for people whose only response to a problem is to ask someone else to sort it for them! Seasiders
  • Score: 15

10:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

raggedtrouseredphilanthropist says...

Well done and good luck to the creators of the Facebook page.

Grim Valley Homes need to be taken to task and everyone should know about the disgraceful way they treat their tenants. I know a man who waited nine months in order to have a leaking roof fixed. The bedroom wall was sodden and during heavy rain puddles formed on the landing. Fungi started to grow on the ceiling and walls.

When he accepted the tenancy he was assured that a damp patch on the wall had been remedied and 'would soon dry out'. Grim Valley use a private company called Burnley Roofing. They had supposedly fixed the leaking roof on two separate occasions - they were paid generously both times!

When the tenant made an official complaint he was offered some decorating vouchers which he correctly refused. Grim Valley then gave him £500 cash. The whole nightmare situation including the farcical complaints procedure (principally designed to cover-up Grim Valley's shortcomings) forced him to end his tenancy.

There are 'several 'tenant involvement' groups who are supposed to scrutinise Grim Valley on behalf of all tenants. They do not. They are undemocratic and end up being mere rubber-stampers of Grim Valley management policies. One only has to look at the new tenancy agreement which is stamped with the words 'Tenant Approved' on the front cover. This new agreement is less favourable to new tenants than the one it has replaced.

Social housing is being privatised. The Bedroom Tax is not about freeing up properties, it is actually the first stage of abolishing housing benefit. Many of the housing associations have increasing numbers of properties that they can not now let, these will eventually be sold off to the private sector.

Mari, Chris and Dani should be saluted for the brave stand they have taken in in highlighting their plight. Hopefully more will follow them. If enough do maybe those Grim Valley employees who are responsible, or indifferent, for the state of these hovels will be brought to book.

We have rights, lets exercise them!
Well done and good luck to the creators of the Facebook page. Grim Valley Homes need to be taken to task and everyone should know about the disgraceful way they treat their tenants. I know a man who waited nine months in order to have a leaking roof fixed. The bedroom wall was sodden and during heavy rain puddles formed on the landing. Fungi started to grow on the ceiling and walls. When he accepted the tenancy he was assured that a damp patch on the wall had been remedied and 'would soon dry out'. Grim Valley use a private company called Burnley Roofing. They had supposedly fixed the leaking roof on two separate occasions - they were paid generously both times! When the tenant made an official complaint he was offered some decorating vouchers which he correctly refused. Grim Valley then gave him £500 cash. The whole nightmare situation including the farcical complaints procedure (principally designed to cover-up Grim Valley's shortcomings) forced him to end his tenancy. There are 'several 'tenant involvement' groups who are supposed to scrutinise Grim Valley on behalf of all tenants. They do not. They are undemocratic and end up being mere rubber-stampers of Grim Valley management policies. One only has to look at the new tenancy agreement which is stamped with the words 'Tenant Approved' on the front cover. This new agreement is less favourable to new tenants than the one it has replaced. Social housing is being privatised. The Bedroom Tax is not about freeing up properties, it is actually the first stage of abolishing housing benefit. Many of the housing associations have increasing numbers of properties that they can not now let, these will eventually be sold off to the private sector. Mari, Chris and Dani should be saluted for the brave stand they have taken in in highlighting their plight. Hopefully more will follow them. If enough do maybe those Grim Valley employees who are responsible, or indifferent, for the state of these hovels will be brought to book. We have rights, lets exercise them! raggedtrouseredphilanthropist
  • Score: 10

10:38pm Tue 7 Jan 14

danib75 says...

Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking downwe do work and pay rent!!! just short of £90 per week is in NO WAY free accommodation. would you have your heating on all day with all your windows open!!!!?
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking downwe do work and pay rent!!! just short of £90 per week is in NO WAY free accommodation. would you have your heating on all day with all your windows open!!!!? danib75
  • Score: 7

10:41pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

raggedtrouseredphila
nthropist
wrote:
Well done and good luck to the creators of the Facebook page.

Grim Valley Homes need to be taken to task and everyone should know about the disgraceful way they treat their tenants. I know a man who waited nine months in order to have a leaking roof fixed. The bedroom wall was sodden and during heavy rain puddles formed on the landing. Fungi started to grow on the ceiling and walls.

When he accepted the tenancy he was assured that a damp patch on the wall had been remedied and 'would soon dry out'. Grim Valley use a private company called Burnley Roofing. They had supposedly fixed the leaking roof on two separate occasions - they were paid generously both times!

When the tenant made an official complaint he was offered some decorating vouchers which he correctly refused. Grim Valley then gave him £500 cash. The whole nightmare situation including the farcical complaints procedure (principally designed to cover-up Grim Valley's shortcomings) forced him to end his tenancy.

There are 'several 'tenant involvement' groups who are supposed to scrutinise Grim Valley on behalf of all tenants. They do not. They are undemocratic and end up being mere rubber-stampers of Grim Valley management policies. One only has to look at the new tenancy agreement which is stamped with the words 'Tenant Approved' on the front cover. This new agreement is less favourable to new tenants than the one it has replaced.

Social housing is being privatised. The Bedroom Tax is not about freeing up properties, it is actually the first stage of abolishing housing benefit. Many of the housing associations have increasing numbers of properties that they can not now let, these will eventually be sold off to the private sector.

Mari, Chris and Dani should be saluted for the brave stand they have taken in in highlighting their plight. Hopefully more will follow them. If enough do maybe those Grim Valley employees who are responsible, or indifferent, for the state of these hovels will be brought to book.

We have rights, lets exercise them!
Thank you very much for your kind words . I guess this person who thinks we are dole dossers lives happy and wouldn't know he'll if hit in face they wouldn't live here so why should we we have done everything twin valley have asked of us an nothin makes a difference the reason this house needs knocking down is cause its not fit for anybody to live in mould damages health and we wipe off and it comes back
[quote][p][bold]raggedtrouseredphila nthropist[/bold] wrote: Well done and good luck to the creators of the Facebook page. Grim Valley Homes need to be taken to task and everyone should know about the disgraceful way they treat their tenants. I know a man who waited nine months in order to have a leaking roof fixed. The bedroom wall was sodden and during heavy rain puddles formed on the landing. Fungi started to grow on the ceiling and walls. When he accepted the tenancy he was assured that a damp patch on the wall had been remedied and 'would soon dry out'. Grim Valley use a private company called Burnley Roofing. They had supposedly fixed the leaking roof on two separate occasions - they were paid generously both times! When the tenant made an official complaint he was offered some decorating vouchers which he correctly refused. Grim Valley then gave him £500 cash. The whole nightmare situation including the farcical complaints procedure (principally designed to cover-up Grim Valley's shortcomings) forced him to end his tenancy. There are 'several 'tenant involvement' groups who are supposed to scrutinise Grim Valley on behalf of all tenants. They do not. They are undemocratic and end up being mere rubber-stampers of Grim Valley management policies. One only has to look at the new tenancy agreement which is stamped with the words 'Tenant Approved' on the front cover. This new agreement is less favourable to new tenants than the one it has replaced. Social housing is being privatised. The Bedroom Tax is not about freeing up properties, it is actually the first stage of abolishing housing benefit. Many of the housing associations have increasing numbers of properties that they can not now let, these will eventually be sold off to the private sector. Mari, Chris and Dani should be saluted for the brave stand they have taken in in highlighting their plight. Hopefully more will follow them. If enough do maybe those Grim Valley employees who are responsible, or indifferent, for the state of these hovels will be brought to book. We have rights, lets exercise them![/p][/quote]Thank you very much for your kind words . I guess this person who thinks we are dole dossers lives happy and wouldn't know he'll if hit in face they wouldn't live here so why should we we have done everything twin valley have asked of us an nothin makes a difference the reason this house needs knocking down is cause its not fit for anybody to live in mould damages health and we wipe off and it comes back mazx4
  • Score: 5

10:52pm Tue 7 Jan 14

danib75 says...

After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!!
After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!! danib75
  • Score: 12

10:54pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

danib75 wrote:
After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!!
Well said dani we should NOT have to put up with this private rented , housing association we should be able to live in a home with no problems like mould an damp
[quote][p][bold]danib75[/bold] wrote: After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!![/p][/quote]Well said dani we should NOT have to put up with this private rented , housing association we should be able to live in a home with no problems like mould an damp mazx4
  • Score: 9

10:54pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

danib75 wrote:
After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!!
Well said dani we should NOT have to put up with this private rented , housing association we should be able to live in a home with no problems like mould an damp
[quote][p][bold]danib75[/bold] wrote: After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!![/p][/quote]Well said dani we should NOT have to put up with this private rented , housing association we should be able to live in a home with no problems like mould an damp mazx4
  • Score: 6

11:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

I see the facebook group has been removed no doubt Twin Valley has something to do with it. How long will it be before they get these comments removed?
I see the facebook group has been removed no doubt Twin Valley has something to do with it. How long will it be before they get these comments removed? Echo67
  • Score: 10

11:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

raggedtrouseredphilanthropist says...

mazx4 wrote:
danib75 wrote:
After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!!
Well said dani we should NOT have to put up with this private rented , housing association we should be able to live in a home with no problems like mould an damp
The response from Ian Bell in the article is typical 'damage limitation speak'. His inferences are designed to mislead the reader into believing that Grim Valley have actually done everything they can. When clearly in your case they have not.

Bell's comments also imply that Grim Valley actually care, when in reality there prevails a culture of contempt and indifference towards tenants from many of the staff at Grim Valley.

You must make an official complaint, if you have not done so already. The complaint in the first instance should be made to the Complaint Officer, Tracey Duckworth. If you do not make your complaint direct to her Grim Valley will try, at a later date, and say that you did not register your complaint at the' first stage'. They do this in order to delay and drag out the situation in the hope that tenants just give up.

You also have the right to put Grim Valley 'on notice' that you will get the repairs carried out privately and the bill will have to be paid by Grim Valley.

I believe that the Facebook page has now been removed. If so this shows that you are doing something right and Grim Valley don't like it!

Stay strong. Keep fighting. You will win!
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]danib75[/bold] wrote: After reading Ian Bells comment in regard to our house in Oban Drive?..is a complete lie!! we have not had new glazing done/replaced nor any venting in the 3 years we have lived here! and i havent been told that this would be done or that an independant contractor would be coming! so far they have sent....a plasterer...a jioner...then some other chap to strip the rubber seals off 2 upstairs windows!! we work and we do our best and pay our way! we have our windows and doors open as often as we can,in my eyes whatever type of rented accomodation,it should be landlords responsibility to resolve problems on their properties!!![/p][/quote]Well said dani we should NOT have to put up with this private rented , housing association we should be able to live in a home with no problems like mould an damp[/p][/quote]The response from Ian Bell in the article is typical 'damage limitation speak'. His inferences are designed to mislead the reader into believing that Grim Valley have actually done everything they can. When clearly in your case they have not. Bell's comments also imply that Grim Valley actually care, when in reality there prevails a culture of contempt and indifference towards tenants from many of the staff at Grim Valley. You must make an official complaint, if you have not done so already. The complaint in the first instance should be made to the Complaint Officer, Tracey Duckworth. If you do not make your complaint direct to her Grim Valley will try, at a later date, and say that you did not register your complaint at the' first stage'. They do this in order to delay and drag out the situation in the hope that tenants just give up. You also have the right to put Grim Valley 'on notice' that you will get the repairs carried out privately and the bill will have to be paid by Grim Valley. I believe that the Facebook page has now been removed. If so this shows that you are doing something right and Grim Valley don't like it! Stay strong. Keep fighting. You will win! raggedtrouseredphilanthropist
  • Score: 9

11:22pm Tue 7 Jan 14

darwenTower says...

I live in my own home and, if allowed to, mould will grow on the outside facing bedroom wall.
We cleaned it off, redecorated and now we leave a window ajar during the day, make sure there is no furniture up against the wall preventing airflow, have a dehumidifier in the adjacent room where we dry washing and a humidistat controlled extractor in the bathroom. The problem has gone.

Houses don't need knocking down because there is mould on a wall. Mould is almost always down to the way the house is used, there is much going on within the house causing moisture and condensation and if it isn't got rid of it will cause mould.

If 5 people are in a house all day breathing, cooking, drying laundry, bath/showering and the windows are all shut to prevent heat loss then mould will occur.

You need the right balance between warmth and ventilation to keep the house dry.
I live in my own home and, if allowed to, mould will grow on the outside facing bedroom wall. We cleaned it off, redecorated and now we leave a window ajar during the day, make sure there is no furniture up against the wall preventing airflow, have a dehumidifier in the adjacent room where we dry washing and a humidistat controlled extractor in the bathroom. The problem has gone. Houses don't need knocking down because there is mould on a wall. Mould is almost always down to the way the house is used, there is much going on within the house causing moisture and condensation and if it isn't got rid of it will cause mould. If 5 people are in a house all day breathing, cooking, drying laundry, bath/showering and the windows are all shut to prevent heat loss then mould will occur. You need the right balance between warmth and ventilation to keep the house dry. darwenTower
  • Score: 18

11:23pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Jarisleif5 says...

Do not wipe the mould - it will only help spread it from one part of the wall to another. Instead, use a bleach and water solution and spray the area. I had the same problem when I lived in the UK and while the mould kept trying to come back, regular spraying on the infected areas does keep it at bay.
Do not wipe the mould - it will only help spread it from one part of the wall to another. Instead, use a bleach and water solution and spray the area. I had the same problem when I lived in the UK and while the mould kept trying to come back, regular spraying on the infected areas does keep it at bay. Jarisleif5
  • Score: 11

11:35pm Tue 7 Jan 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall.

Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.
Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall. Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in. 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: 5

11:36pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

We do keep wiping it but still comes back this is what we're trying to say we're doing everything twin valley have stated but nothing is curing it . Also agree if they have ewt to do with my Facebook page they don't like it . Well we do t like living in mouldy , damp houses so sort it but its not as easy as how u get a group removed
We do keep wiping it but still comes back this is what we're trying to say we're doing everything twin valley have stated but nothing is curing it . Also agree if they have ewt to do with my Facebook page they don't like it . Well we do t like living in mouldy , damp houses so sort it but its not as easy as how u get a group removed mazx4
  • Score: 1

11:42pm Tue 7 Jan 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

mazx4 wrote:
We do keep wiping it but still comes back this is what we're trying to say we're doing everything twin valley have stated but nothing is curing it . Also agree if they have ewt to do with my Facebook page they don't like it . Well we do t like living in mouldy , damp houses so sort it but its not as easy as how u get a group removed
What you do is this you wipe it, when it comes back wipe it again,and so on.
Then do what darwen tower says.
You can't just expect everything handed to you on a plate, you have to take responsibility for somethings.
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: We do keep wiping it but still comes back this is what we're trying to say we're doing everything twin valley have stated but nothing is curing it . Also agree if they have ewt to do with my Facebook page they don't like it . Well we do t like living in mouldy , damp houses so sort it but its not as easy as how u get a group removed[/p][/quote]What you do is this you wipe it, when it comes back wipe it again,and so on. Then do what darwen tower says. You can't just expect everything handed to you on a plate, you have to take responsibility for somethings. 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: 4

11:44pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall.

Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.
Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall. Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.[/p][/quote]Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension. Echo67
  • Score: 12

11:49pm Tue 7 Jan 14

raggedtrouseredphilanthropist says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall.

Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.
Your prejudice is as much disgusting as your ignorance is breath taking!

FACT - Majority of new housing benefit claimants are in work!

"The number of housing benefit claimants in Great Britain increased by 300,000 to 4.95 million between January 2010 and December 2011.

Of those 300,000, 93 per cent (279,000) were households where at least one adult was employed. Since November 2008, the proportion of housing benefit claimants in work has increased from 10 per cent to 17 per cent, while the overall number of in-work claimants has doubled from 430,000 to 865,000." (Taken from Inside Housing magazine. Supplied free to all Grim Valley employees.)

It appears that you think like Grim Valley's Ian Bell - why let the truth get in the way of a good story, eh?
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall. Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.[/p][/quote]Your prejudice is as much disgusting as your ignorance is breath taking! FACT - Majority of new housing benefit claimants are in work! "The number of housing benefit claimants in Great Britain increased by 300,000 to 4.95 million between January 2010 and December 2011. Of those 300,000, 93 per cent (279,000) were households where at least one adult was employed. Since November 2008, the proportion of housing benefit claimants in work has increased from 10 per cent to 17 per cent, while the overall number of in-work claimants has doubled from 430,000 to 865,000." (Taken from Inside Housing magazine. Supplied free to all Grim Valley employees.) It appears that you think like Grim Valley's Ian Bell - why let the truth get in the way of a good story, eh? raggedtrouseredphilanthropist
  • Score: 10

11:54pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

Echo67 wrote:
2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall.

Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.
Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.
Just ignore these people Hun they prob don't have anything better to do . I was in a job not long ago and my sic has signed me off because if this house . I'm also dealing with a child with a disability who struggles . This house is freezing also . 2 for 5p why don't you come and take a step in our shoes . I would live to get back to my job. Or is it your a dole dosser . I agree with echo . U know nothing about us so keep comment to your self .
[quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall. Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.[/p][/quote]Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.[/p][/quote]Just ignore these people Hun they prob don't have anything better to do . I was in a job not long ago and my sic has signed me off because if this house . I'm also dealing with a child with a disability who struggles . This house is freezing also . 2 for 5p why don't you come and take a step in our shoes . I would live to get back to my job. Or is it your a dole dosser . I agree with echo . U know nothing about us so keep comment to your self . mazx4
  • Score: -2

12:02am Wed 8 Jan 14

2 for 5p ridesagain says...

mazx4 wrote:
Echo67 wrote:
2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall.

Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.
Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.
Just ignore these people Hun they prob don't have anything better to do . I was in a job not long ago and my sic has signed me off because if this house . I'm also dealing with a child with a disability who struggles . This house is freezing also . 2 for 5p why don't you come and take a step in our shoes . I would live to get back to my job. Or is it your a dole dosser . I agree with echo . U know nothing about us so keep comment to your self .
You must have a right soft touch doctor if you've been signed off sick because of damp in your house.
You'll have plenty of time on your hands to redecorate then won't you
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall. Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.[/p][/quote]Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.[/p][/quote]Just ignore these people Hun they prob don't have anything better to do . I was in a job not long ago and my sic has signed me off because if this house . I'm also dealing with a child with a disability who struggles . This house is freezing also . 2 for 5p why don't you come and take a step in our shoes . I would live to get back to my job. Or is it your a dole dosser . I agree with echo . U know nothing about us so keep comment to your self .[/p][/quote]You must have a right soft touch doctor if you've been signed off sick because of damp in your house. You'll have plenty of time on your hands to redecorate then won't you 2 for 5p ridesagain
  • Score: 8

12:10am Wed 8 Jan 14

raggedtrouseredphilanthropist says...

2 for 5p said
"You must have a right soft touch doctor if you've been signed off sick because of damp in your house.
You'll have plenty of time on your hands to redecorate then won't you"

Disgraceful!
2 for 5p said "You must have a right soft touch doctor if you've been signed off sick because of damp in your house. You'll have plenty of time on your hands to redecorate then won't you" Disgraceful! raggedtrouseredphilanthropist
  • Score: -3

12:12am Wed 8 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
mazx4 wrote:
Echo67 wrote:
2 for 5p ridesagain wrote:
Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall.

Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.
Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.
Just ignore these people Hun they prob don't have anything better to do . I was in a job not long ago and my sic has signed me off because if this house . I'm also dealing with a child with a disability who struggles . This house is freezing also . 2 for 5p why don't you come and take a step in our shoes . I would live to get back to my job. Or is it your a dole dosser . I agree with echo . U know nothing about us so keep comment to your self .
You must have a right soft touch doctor if you've been signed off sick because of damp in your house.
You'll have plenty of time on your hands to redecorate then won't you
Seems like you also have alot of time spare too . Cause u nothing better to do than take this mic out of people . This is no laughin matter also did u know that mould can effect health . Guess not and its in the air no matter how many times you wipe it . U really are pathetic .
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p ridesagain[/bold] wrote: Residents is it really to much like hard work to wipe the mould off the wall. Be gratefully that you live in a society that pays for you to live in a house, when you don't work. There are much more important things for the council to get involved in.[/p][/quote]Why do you keep implying that these people are on benefits? Also what you are saying is it is ok for landlords to let people live in unsuitable houses because they are on benefits and to be grateful for it. I wonder if you will still have the same views when the NHS has gone along with the state pension.[/p][/quote]Just ignore these people Hun they prob don't have anything better to do . I was in a job not long ago and my sic has signed me off because if this house . I'm also dealing with a child with a disability who struggles . This house is freezing also . 2 for 5p why don't you come and take a step in our shoes . I would live to get back to my job. Or is it your a dole dosser . I agree with echo . U know nothing about us so keep comment to your self .[/p][/quote]You must have a right soft touch doctor if you've been signed off sick because of damp in your house. You'll have plenty of time on your hands to redecorate then won't you[/p][/quote]Seems like you also have alot of time spare too . Cause u nothing better to do than take this mic out of people . This is no laughin matter also did u know that mould can effect health . Guess not and its in the air no matter how many times you wipe it . U really are pathetic . mazx4
  • Score: 4

12:15am Wed 8 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

All I can say is please people if you or anybody has mould and damp problems do not back down . Don't give up u have rights .
All I can say is please people if you or anybody has mould and damp problems do not back down . Don't give up u have rights . mazx4
  • Score: 6

2:20am Wed 8 Jan 14

Pommie Art says...

mazx4 wrote:
We do keep wiping it but still comes back this is what we're trying to say we're doing everything twin valley have stated but nothing is curing it . Also agree if they have ewt to do with my Facebook page they don't like it . Well we do t like living in mouldy , damp houses so sort it but its not as easy as how u get a group removed
Mazx4,
maybe you can inform twin valley that it may be help if they got decent tradespeople to install Air vents into the brickwork on the outside & internal walls this creates a god air flow in the room. but as for the exposure on social media that's just irritating people to lash you. & i would also not use any disabled child as a excuse to get more media attention.
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: We do keep wiping it but still comes back this is what we're trying to say we're doing everything twin valley have stated but nothing is curing it . Also agree if they have ewt to do with my Facebook page they don't like it . Well we do t like living in mouldy , damp houses so sort it but its not as easy as how u get a group removed[/p][/quote]Mazx4, maybe you can inform twin valley that it may be help if they got decent tradespeople to install Air vents into the brickwork on the outside & internal walls this creates a god air flow in the room. but as for the exposure on social media that's just irritating people to lash you. & i would also not use any disabled child as a excuse to get more media attention. Pommie Art
  • Score: 1

7:16am Wed 8 Jan 14

happycyclist says...

It's the properties. I lived in one TVH flat for many years with no mould problems and I've since moved to another WITH mould problems. They way I live with regard to heating and ventilation hasn't changed, so as far as I'm concerned it's the properties, not the occupants.
It's the properties. I lived in one TVH flat for many years with no mould problems and I've since moved to another WITH mould problems. They way I live with regard to heating and ventilation hasn't changed, so as far as I'm concerned it's the properties, not the occupants. happycyclist
  • Score: 9

8:11am Wed 8 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

mazx4 wrote:
All I can say is please people if you or anybody has mould and damp problems do not back down . Don't give up u have rights .
I'm tired of hearing people who contribute nothing to society complaining about their "rights". Honest, hard working people people have the right to expect that their taxes are used to support genuine social housing, for people who have a genuine need for social housing until they are able to support themselves. Not to support someone who could work to support themselves, but isn't due to a mould problem that could be eased with a little effort on their part. Instead we pay for the housing and probably provide benefits that pays for the internet connection to set up social media pages. Why not spend some time researching condensation problems on the internet and try to help yourself? Why not go out and get a job so that you could move to private rental accommodation? Why, because the state makes it too easy for people like you to not work, and to spend all day complaining about your "rights"! One day, we might get a government that tells you that unless you start to become responsible for yourself then you should have limited rights!
[quote][p][bold]mazx4[/bold] wrote: All I can say is please people if you or anybody has mould and damp problems do not back down . Don't give up u have rights .[/p][/quote]I'm tired of hearing people who contribute nothing to society complaining about their "rights". Honest, hard working people people have the right to expect that their taxes are used to support genuine social housing, for people who have a genuine need for social housing until they are able to support themselves. Not to support someone who could work to support themselves, but isn't due to a mould problem that could be eased with a little effort on their part. Instead we pay for the housing and probably provide benefits that pays for the internet connection to set up social media pages. Why not spend some time researching condensation problems on the internet and try to help yourself? Why not go out and get a job so that you could move to private rental accommodation? Why, because the state makes it too easy for people like you to not work, and to spend all day complaining about your "rights"! One day, we might get a government that tells you that unless you start to become responsible for yourself then you should have limited rights! Seasiders
  • Score: 3

9:22am Wed 8 Jan 14

woolywords says...

It is a complete joy to read such caring, helpful and encouraging words as are NOT written here by some commentators. Your ability to discern, from a few simple statements, a persons intellect, occupation and lifestyle, is truly incredible. Have you ever considered becoming a mind reader, as well?

Might I suggest that anyone with damp and/or mould problems, purchase this..
http://tinyurl.com/o
hl7txz
It will help you monitor both the temperature and, more importantly, the relative humidity in any room, helping you control it's atmosphere with a fair degree of accuracy.
Should a room feel cold, it's often as a direct result of the relative humidity and not because of the temperature. Damp air will reduce your body heat, a lot faster than dry air, a simple thermodynamic effect, that few are aware of, in normal life.
When the RH level gets a little high and you ventilate to reduce it, you will be amazed how quickly the same temperature returns without the need to use more heat. Using this device will, in a very short space of time, give you a saving on your heating bills and the cost of the device itself.
I truly hope that this helps you resolve your problem, and perhaps, make a few others that are not aware, how to save a little money on those spiralling heating costs.
It is a complete joy to read such caring, helpful and encouraging words as are NOT written here by some commentators. Your ability to discern, from a few simple statements, a persons intellect, occupation and lifestyle, is truly incredible. Have you ever considered becoming a mind reader, as well? Might I suggest that anyone with damp and/or mould problems, purchase this.. http://tinyurl.com/o hl7txz It will help you monitor both the temperature and, more importantly, the relative humidity in any room, helping you control it's atmosphere with a fair degree of accuracy. Should a room feel cold, it's often as a direct result of the relative humidity and not because of the temperature. Damp air will reduce your body heat, a lot faster than dry air, a simple thermodynamic effect, that few are aware of, in normal life. When the RH level gets a little high and you ventilate to reduce it, you will be amazed how quickly the same temperature returns without the need to use more heat. Using this device will, in a very short space of time, give you a saving on your heating bills and the cost of the device itself. I truly hope that this helps you resolve your problem, and perhaps, make a few others that are not aware, how to save a little money on those spiralling heating costs. woolywords
  • Score: 3

10:04am Wed 8 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

Thanks you woolywords .
Thanks you woolywords . mazx4
  • Score: 0

10:50am Wed 8 Jan 14

darwenTower says...

Get some:
Abicide Fungicidal Wash

You should find it in any DIY store, it worked wonders on a mouldy basement wall after floods the other year.
We kept washing the walls but the mould kept coming back, dread to think what was in the water,
Read the instructions though and take the approriate care.
Get some: Abicide Fungicidal Wash You should find it in any DIY store, it worked wonders on a mouldy basement wall after floods the other year. We kept washing the walls but the mould kept coming back, dread to think what was in the water, Read the instructions though and take the approriate care. darwenTower
  • Score: 3

11:08am Wed 8 Jan 14

mazx4 says...

darwenTower wrote:
Get some:
Abicide Fungicidal Wash

You should find it in any DIY store, it worked wonders on a mouldy basement wall after floods the other year.
We kept washing the walls but the mould kept coming back, dread to think what was in the water,
Read the instructions though and take the approriate care.
Thank you Darwen tower ill get some today and see how goes . Just hope it stops it cause every time we wipe in a couple days its back again
[quote][p][bold]darwenTower[/bold] wrote: Get some: Abicide Fungicidal Wash You should find it in any DIY store, it worked wonders on a mouldy basement wall after floods the other year. We kept washing the walls but the mould kept coming back, dread to think what was in the water, Read the instructions though and take the approriate care.[/p][/quote]Thank you Darwen tower ill get some today and see how goes . Just hope it stops it cause every time we wipe in a couple days its back again mazx4
  • Score: 0

1:24pm Wed 8 Jan 14

raggedtrouseredphilanthropist says...

Seasiders wrote:
Echo67 wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?
Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?
So Seasiders - "you get off your backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property" .

Can I suggest you try washing it more often and stop talking sh*te and you might not have to let as much fresh air in!
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?[/p][/quote]Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?[/p][/quote]So Seasiders - "you get off your backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property" . Can I suggest you try washing it more often and stop talking sh*te and you might not have to let as much fresh air in! raggedtrouseredphilanthropist
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Joseph O'M says...

I wonder if it's anything to do with cavity wall insulation trapping moisture (in the older properties) and reducing airflow and the house's ability to breathe...
I wonder if it's anything to do with cavity wall insulation trapping moisture (in the older properties) and reducing airflow and the house's ability to breathe... Joseph O'M
  • Score: 2

3:11pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Seasiders says...

raggedtrouseredphila
nthropist
wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
Echo67 wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?
Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?
So Seasiders - "you get off your backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property" .

Can I suggest you try washing it more often and stop talking sh*te and you might not have to let as much fresh air in!
mmm so the advice that is recommended by people who deal with property is not the solution in your eyes is raggedy? You would rather advocate sitting in front of a computer screen complaining?
Just google the problem and here is the advice:
"How to tackle condensation dampness

The major difference between condensation and other forms of dampness is that you have the ability to reduce or solve the problem just through changing behaviour in the home. Try following these steps:

Reduce the moisture: Normal activities such as bathing, washing and cooking all produce moisture which cannot be avoided. Simple changes however can prove effective in tackling condensation dampness. Steps to consider are:

Keep lids on saucepans while cooking.
Tumble driers should be vented to the outside.
Avoid the use of bottled gas and paraffin heaters as these produce high levels of vapour.
Dry washing outside when possible.
However, the most effective course of action you can take is:

When creating steam in the kitchen/bathroom open windows and close doors to these rooms. This will let moisture escape and prevent it from spreading through the house.
Increase ventilation: This is required so that moist air produced can escape, simply opening a window will do. A suitable level of ventilation will allow this without making occupants uncomfortable by causing draughts and making the room cold. It may be quite difficult to strike the right balance. It is for this reason many houses have built in ventilation measures such as trickle ventilators and extractor fans.

Kitchen and bathrooms with severe condensation problems should not be draught proofed.

Heating: Condensation is most likely to be a problem in homes which are under heated. Try to keep temperatures in all rooms above 15°C as this will reduce condensation forming on external walls."

I think as a tax payer that I have a "right" to express my disgust at someone calling a house that the taxpayer provides as needing to be knocked down. It doesn't need knocking down, put someone in the same house who has an ounce of self pride and responsibility and it would not be in the same state. But obviously Raggedy, you know better than the experts?
[quote][p][bold]raggedtrouseredphila nthropist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?[/p][/quote]Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?[/p][/quote]So Seasiders - "you get off your backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property" . Can I suggest you try washing it more often and stop talking sh*te and you might not have to let as much fresh air in![/p][/quote]mmm so the advice that is recommended by people who deal with property is not the solution in your eyes is raggedy? You would rather advocate sitting in front of a computer screen complaining? Just google the problem and here is the advice: "How to tackle condensation dampness The major difference between condensation and other forms of dampness is that you have the ability to reduce or solve the problem just through changing behaviour in the home. Try following these steps: Reduce the moisture: Normal activities such as bathing, washing and cooking all produce moisture which cannot be avoided. Simple changes however can prove effective in tackling condensation dampness. Steps to consider are: Keep lids on saucepans while cooking. Tumble driers should be vented to the outside. Avoid the use of bottled gas and paraffin heaters as these produce high levels of vapour. Dry washing outside when possible. However, the most effective course of action you can take is: When creating steam in the kitchen/bathroom open windows and close doors to these rooms. This will let moisture escape and prevent it from spreading through the house. Increase ventilation: This is required so that moist air produced can escape, simply opening a window will do. A suitable level of ventilation will allow this without making occupants uncomfortable by causing draughts and making the room cold. It may be quite difficult to strike the right balance. It is for this reason many houses have built in ventilation measures such as trickle ventilators and extractor fans. Kitchen and bathrooms with severe condensation problems should not be draught proofed. Heating: Condensation is most likely to be a problem in homes which are under heated. Try to keep temperatures in all rooms above 15°C as this will reduce condensation forming on external walls." I think as a tax payer that I have a "right" to express my disgust at someone calling a house that the taxpayer provides as needing to be knocked down. It doesn't need knocking down, put someone in the same house who has an ounce of self pride and responsibility and it would not be in the same state. But obviously Raggedy, you know better than the experts? Seasiders
  • Score: 3

3:37pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Seasiders wrote:
raggedtrouseredphila

nthropist
wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
Echo67 wrote:
Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?
Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?
So Seasiders - "you get off your backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property" .

Can I suggest you try washing it more often and stop talking sh*te and you might not have to let as much fresh air in!
mmm so the advice that is recommended by people who deal with property is not the solution in your eyes is raggedy? You would rather advocate sitting in front of a computer screen complaining?
Just google the problem and here is the advice:
"How to tackle condensation dampness

The major difference between condensation and other forms of dampness is that you have the ability to reduce or solve the problem just through changing behaviour in the home. Try following these steps:

Reduce the moisture: Normal activities such as bathing, washing and cooking all produce moisture which cannot be avoided. Simple changes however can prove effective in tackling condensation dampness. Steps to consider are:

Keep lids on saucepans while cooking.
Tumble driers should be vented to the outside.
Avoid the use of bottled gas and paraffin heaters as these produce high levels of vapour.
Dry washing outside when possible.
However, the most effective course of action you can take is:

When creating steam in the kitchen/bathroom open windows and close doors to these rooms. This will let moisture escape and prevent it from spreading through the house.
Increase ventilation: This is required so that moist air produced can escape, simply opening a window will do. A suitable level of ventilation will allow this without making occupants uncomfortable by causing draughts and making the room cold. It may be quite difficult to strike the right balance. It is for this reason many houses have built in ventilation measures such as trickle ventilators and extractor fans.

Kitchen and bathrooms with severe condensation problems should not be draught proofed.

Heating: Condensation is most likely to be a problem in homes which are under heated. Try to keep temperatures in all rooms above 15°C as this will reduce condensation forming on external walls."

I think as a tax payer that I have a "right" to express my disgust at someone calling a house that the taxpayer provides as needing to be knocked down. It doesn't need knocking down, put someone in the same house who has an ounce of self pride and responsibility and it would not be in the same state. But obviously Raggedy, you know better than the experts?
Who are you to judge these people? What right have you got to imply that these people have no self pride and responsibility. You have done nothing but try and belittle these people, I suppose you think this is also your right because you are a taxpayer which you keep reminding everybody. I personally think your in cloud cuckoo land.
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raggedtrouseredphila nthropist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Since when have Twin Valley given away free accommodation? The people that live in these houses pay rent. What planet are you from?[/p][/quote]Benefits generally pay the rent i.e taxpayers! It is just laziness to not wipe the mould away and let it get so bad. My house suffers from mould due to condensation, but for the sake of my family I don't leave it to progress and take pictures of it, I get off my backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property?[/p][/quote]So Seasiders - "you get off your backside and wipe it down and let fresh air into the property" . Can I suggest you try washing it more often and stop talking sh*te and you might not have to let as much fresh air in![/p][/quote]mmm so the advice that is recommended by people who deal with property is not the solution in your eyes is raggedy? You would rather advocate sitting in front of a computer screen complaining? Just google the problem and here is the advice: "How to tackle condensation dampness The major difference between condensation and other forms of dampness is that you have the ability to reduce or solve the problem just through changing behaviour in the home. Try following these steps: Reduce the moisture: Normal activities such as bathing, washing and cooking all produce moisture which cannot be avoided. Simple changes however can prove effective in tackling condensation dampness. Steps to consider are: Keep lids on saucepans while cooking. Tumble driers should be vented to the outside. Avoid the use of bottled gas and paraffin heaters as these produce high levels of vapour. Dry washing outside when possible. However, the most effective course of action you can take is: When creating steam in the kitchen/bathroom open windows and close doors to these rooms. This will let moisture escape and prevent it from spreading through the house. Increase ventilation: This is required so that moist air produced can escape, simply opening a window will do. A suitable level of ventilation will allow this without making occupants uncomfortable by causing draughts and making the room cold. It may be quite difficult to strike the right balance. It is for this reason many houses have built in ventilation measures such as trickle ventilators and extractor fans. Kitchen and bathrooms with severe condensation problems should not be draught proofed. Heating: Condensation is most likely to be a problem in homes which are under heated. Try to keep temperatures in all rooms above 15°C as this will reduce condensation forming on external walls." I think as a tax payer that I have a "right" to express my disgust at someone calling a house that the taxpayer provides as needing to be knocked down. It doesn't need knocking down, put someone in the same house who has an ounce of self pride and responsibility and it would not be in the same state. But obviously Raggedy, you know better than the experts?[/p][/quote]Who are you to judge these people? What right have you got to imply that these people have no self pride and responsibility. You have done nothing but try and belittle these people, I suppose you think this is also your right because you are a taxpayer which you keep reminding everybody. I personally think your in cloud cuckoo land. Echo67
  • Score: -2

7:14pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ricktam1 says...

I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.
I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould. ricktam1
  • Score: 3

7:39pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Rich Riley says...

ricktam1 wrote:
I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.
Move somewhere else
[quote][p][bold]ricktam1[/bold] wrote: I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.[/p][/quote]Move somewhere else Rich Riley
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Wed 8 Jan 14

ricktam1 says...

Rich Riley wrote:
ricktam1 wrote:
I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.
Move somewhere else
Thank you. Your advice is much appreciated.
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ricktam1[/bold] wrote: I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.[/p][/quote]Move somewhere else[/p][/quote]Thank you. Your advice is much appreciated. ricktam1
  • Score: 2

8:07pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Echo67 says...

Rich Riley wrote:
ricktam1 wrote:
I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.
Move somewhere else
Why should they have to move? How about Twin Valley sort out the damp problems in their properties. Imagine that, Twin Valley getting off their backsides and provide housing that is fit for purpose.
[quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ricktam1[/bold] wrote: I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.[/p][/quote]Move somewhere else[/p][/quote]Why should they have to move? How about Twin Valley sort out the damp problems in their properties. Imagine that, Twin Valley getting off their backsides and provide housing that is fit for purpose. Echo67
  • Score: 5

8:38pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Rich Riley says...

Echo67 wrote:
Rich Riley wrote:
ricktam1 wrote:
I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.
Move somewhere else
Why should they have to move? How about Twin Valley sort out the damp problems in their properties. Imagine that, Twin Valley getting off their backsides and provide housing that is fit for purpose.
If the tenants don't like the way Twin Valley maintain their homes then why not move out? What is stopping them from moving to another rented property?
[quote][p][bold]Echo67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich Riley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ricktam1[/bold] wrote: I work full time. My husband works full time. We have 3 children and pay £800 a month in childcare plus full rent and council tax. We live in a twin valley home with a damp and mould problem. Please someone on here give some advice to us because we arent getting anywhere with twin valley. But then again, after reading the comments posted on here we probably deserve the damp and mould.[/p][/quote]Move somewhere else[/p][/quote]Why should they have to move? How about Twin Valley sort out the damp problems in their properties. Imagine that, Twin Valley getting off their backsides and provide housing that is fit for purpose.[/p][/quote]If the tenants don't like the way Twin Valley maintain their homes then why not move out? What is stopping them from moving to another rented property? Rich Riley
  • Score: -1

9:11pm Wed 8 Jan 14

danib75 says...

......then pass the problem to another vulnerable family!!? how nice.
......then pass the problem to another vulnerable family!!? how nice. danib75
  • Score: 1

9:23pm Wed 8 Jan 14

danib75 says...

in our house we have no air vents in the rooms in the walls,the vents in the windows dont work,i have the bathroom and toilet window open almost permanantly,we have an extracter fan in the bathroom that comes on automatically,i have windows around the house open as often as i can,the back door is open when we cook,and i have tried bleach ect on where the damp has left black mouldy marks everywhere,replaced items of bedding (including kids) shoes,clothing that it has ruined and its costing us a fortune! not to mention the price of gas and electric to keep our home at a reasonable tempreture!!! as i said before why should we up the cost even more to look or move to alternative accomodation for the problem to be passed to someone else,when it is a landlords responsibility to resolve these problems...when we are doing everything we can to resolve the problems first of all and cannot!!
in our house we have no air vents in the rooms in the walls,the vents in the windows dont work,i have the bathroom and toilet window open almost permanantly,we have an extracter fan in the bathroom that comes on automatically,i have windows around the house open as often as i can,the back door is open when we cook,and i have tried bleach ect on where the damp has left black mouldy marks everywhere,replaced items of bedding (including kids) shoes,clothing that it has ruined and its costing us a fortune! not to mention the price of gas and electric to keep our home at a reasonable tempreture!!! as i said before why should we up the cost even more to look or move to alternative accomodation for the problem to be passed to someone else,when it is a landlords responsibility to resolve these problems...when we are doing everything we can to resolve the problems first of all and cannot!! danib75
  • Score: 3

9:30pm Wed 8 Jan 14

raggedtrouseredphilanthropist says...

Seasiders says

" I think as a tax payer that I have a "right" to express my disgust at someone calling a house that the taxpayer provides as needing to be knocked down. It doesn't need knocking down, put someone in the same house who has an ounce of self pride and responsibility and it would not be in the same state. But obviously Raggedy, you know better than the experts? "

OK, Seasiders, so you pay tax. Do you think you are the only person that does? You certainly bang-on as if you are. You seem to have a big chip on your shoulder about people who are in receipt of housing benefit.

Housing benefit is a LEGAL ENTITLEMENT to those who qualify. So what's your problem? You might need it yourself one day.

Grim Valley Homes are being paid rents either from peoples earned income or housing benefit and, as is increasingly the case, partly from both. In return, Grim Valley Homes, are contracted to provide homes of a certain standard. The point made in the original article is that clearly Grim Valley Homes have failed to keep up their side of the agreement.

Evidently, these damp and mouldy homes are unacceptable and fall far short of the agreed standards. They are damaging to the health of tenants. Grim Valley used to state on their glossy leaflets that they were providers of " Homes to be Proud of ". It is some coincidence that such a boast has now been removed at a time when the reality of Grim Valley's hovels is becoming a truth universally acknowledged.

As unpalatable as it is for you, Seasiders, the fact remains that the tenants DO have the right, legally and morally, to complain. I for one support them as do many others on this thread.
Seasiders says " I think as a tax payer that I have a "right" to express my disgust at someone calling a house that the taxpayer provides as needing to be knocked down. It doesn't need knocking down, put someone in the same house who has an ounce of self pride and responsibility and it would not be in the same state. But obviously Raggedy, you know better than the experts? " OK, Seasiders, so you pay tax. Do you think you are the only person that does? You certainly bang-on as if you are. You seem to have a big chip on your shoulder about people who are in receipt of housing benefit. Housing benefit is a LEGAL ENTITLEMENT to those who qualify. So what's your problem? You might need it yourself one day. Grim Valley Homes are being paid rents either from peoples earned income or housing benefit and, as is increasingly the case, partly from both. In return, Grim Valley Homes, are contracted to provide homes of a certain standard. The point made in the original article is that clearly Grim Valley Homes have failed to keep up their side of the agreement. Evidently, these damp and mouldy homes are unacceptable and fall far short of the agreed standards. They are damaging to the health of tenants. Grim Valley used to state on their glossy leaflets that they were providers of " Homes to be Proud of ". It is some coincidence that such a boast has now been removed at a time when the reality of Grim Valley's hovels is becoming a truth universally acknowledged. As unpalatable as it is for you, Seasiders, the fact remains that the tenants DO have the right, legally and morally, to complain. I for one support them as do many others on this thread. raggedtrouseredphilanthropist
  • Score: 6

12:51pm Tue 14 Jan 14

earthmum says...

Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
So all social housing tenants are lazy, unemployed and spongers according to you, then perhaps you would prefer it if the work houses were re-opened? Thank goodness for kind-hearted, non judgemental people like you. Many social housing tenants are hard working, decent, people with pride in their homes, living in social housing does not remove you from the human race.
It is also a fact that not all damp is caused by condensation. Oh to be a perfect troll, best be careful you don't trip over your halo.
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]So all social housing tenants are lazy, unemployed and spongers according to you, then perhaps you would prefer it if the work houses were re-opened? Thank goodness for kind-hearted, non judgemental people like you. Many social housing tenants are hard working, decent, people with pride in their homes, living in social housing does not remove you from the human race. It is also a fact that not all damp is caused by condensation. Oh to be a perfect troll, best be careful you don't trip over your halo. earthmum
  • Score: 2

9:19pm Tue 14 Jan 14

shirtbox2003 says...

all council houses were built sub-standered and over the years councils and housing agents have failed to redress the problems.
all council houses were built sub-standered and over the years councils and housing agents have failed to redress the problems. shirtbox2003
  • Score: 1

11:28am Wed 22 Jan 14

funkysox says...

Seasiders wrote:
It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.
It makes me angry when I see people who just assume that these residents (including my mother an myself) are all spongers. Both of my parents work and do everything and anything they can to keep me and my younger siblings healthy and happy. Further more , I'm disgusted to see that we're recommended to have all the Windows open in the middle of winter, risking the health and wellbeing of my family. If the Windows were redone to a livable standard as said, then we wouldn't have to complain about this hazard.
[quote][p][bold]Seasiders[/bold] wrote: It makes me angry when I see spongers moaning about the free accommodation that they are given. The comment "This house is a joke, it needs knocking down" highlights how ungrateful these people are. They have no right to expect free housing, and have a cheek to complain about the condition. When they are paying for the property then by all means complain, until then, open your windows and stop moaning.[/p][/quote]It makes me angry when I see people who just assume that these residents (including my mother an myself) are all spongers. Both of my parents work and do everything and anything they can to keep me and my younger siblings healthy and happy. Further more , I'm disgusted to see that we're recommended to have all the Windows open in the middle of winter, risking the health and wellbeing of my family. If the Windows were redone to a livable standard as said, then we wouldn't have to complain about this hazard. funkysox
  • Score: 0

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