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Parents in limbo over school strike plans

Lancashire Telegraph: Parents in limbo over school strike plans Parents in limbo over school strike plans

SCORES of south Essex parents are still waiting to find out whether they will have to arrange childcare for their children during a one day teachers’ strike.

Teachers at primary and secondary schools are set to walk out on Tuesday, in a row over pay, pensions and workload.

Some major schools, including the Billericay School, will shut for the whole day with parents being forced to make alternative arrangements.

Other secondaries, such as Chase High School, in Westcliff, and King John School, Thundersley, will remain open only for Years 11, 12 and 13 to minimise disruption to youngsters preparing for GCSE and A-Level exams.

However, other headteachers do not yet know how many staff will walk out and whether that will lead them to shut their schools.

Julie Peek’s ten-year-old son, Joe, attends West Leigh Junior School, which refused to tell the Echo whether the school would close.

Julie, of Leigh Cliff Road, Leigh, said: “I didn’t know there could be a teachers’ strike on Tuesday, I’ve not had a letter or a text.

“If the school closes and I had been working – as it happens, I’m not – but if I was, it would’ve been a nightmare.

“If you’re a parent working in the city you can’t have your child home alone all day.

Friends of mine who work in the city would definitely find it tricky to find last-minute childcare.”

Jerry Glazier, general secretary of the Essex branch of the NUT, said members were under no obligation to inform the schools.

He said: “Unions write to academies to tell them the number of staff members who have been asked to take industrial action, but no information is given to other schools.

“There is no legal requirement for teachers to say whether they are going on strike. Management at some schools try to undermine strike action, which is bad practice.”

The NUT and NASUWT, the two major teaching unions, voted to strike over an ongoing battle against pension reductions.

They are also protesting against reforms which will see pay linked to performance and give headteachers greater power over salaries.

James Courtenay, councillor responsible for children and learning in Southend, said: “All schools are making their decision based on their ability to open safely and keep classes operating with minimal disruption.

“Our expectation, as always, is that schools should do whatever they can to remain open.”

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6:00pm Sat 28 Sep 13

Jack222 says...

Parents are not in limbo - they can have two plans ready for one day. One is if the school is open and one for if it is not. Not a difficult issue really...
Parents are not in limbo - they can have two plans ready for one day. One is if the school is open and one for if it is not. Not a difficult issue really... Jack222
  • Score: 2

7:17pm Sat 28 Sep 13

Ineverknewthat says...

Responsible teachers again..............n
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Responsible teachers again..............n ot Ineverknewthat
  • Score: -4

8:37pm Sat 28 Sep 13

Nebs says...

They should strike during the half term break.
They should strike during the half term break. Nebs
  • Score: 0

10:11pm Sat 28 Sep 13

Jack222 says...

Teachers?

Try looking at the issue. Teachers are losing the right to have legally enforced rates of pay - if the Head likes you then they can pay you more. The person doing the same job can be paid much less.

Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint.

Would you smile? Guess why the teachers are on strike...
Teachers? Try looking at the issue. Teachers are losing the right to have legally enforced rates of pay - if the Head likes you then they can pay you more. The person doing the same job can be paid much less. Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint. Would you smile? Guess why the teachers are on strike... Jack222
  • Score: 3

10:17pm Sat 28 Sep 13

Nebs says...

Jack222 wrote:
Teachers?

Try looking at the issue. Teachers are losing the right to have legally enforced rates of pay - if the Head likes you then they can pay you more. The person doing the same job can be paid much less.

Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint.

Would you smile? Guess why the teachers are on strike...
Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got the same pay as you and did half the work much less skillfully than you and when they are off sick and getting paid you have to do their work as well as your own and you had no legal right of complaint.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: Teachers? Try looking at the issue. Teachers are losing the right to have legally enforced rates of pay - if the Head likes you then they can pay you more. The person doing the same job can be paid much less. Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint. Would you smile? Guess why the teachers are on strike...[/p][/quote]Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got the same pay as you and did half the work much less skillfully than you and when they are off sick and getting paid you have to do their work as well as your own and you had no legal right of complaint. Nebs
  • Score: 2

10:17pm Sat 28 Sep 13

Nebs says...

Jack222 wrote:
Teachers?

Try looking at the issue. Teachers are losing the right to have legally enforced rates of pay - if the Head likes you then they can pay you more. The person doing the same job can be paid much less.

Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint.

Would you smile? Guess why the teachers are on strike...
Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got the same pay as you and did half the work much less skillfully than you and when they are off sick and getting paid you have to do their work as well as your own and you had no legal right of complaint.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: Teachers? Try looking at the issue. Teachers are losing the right to have legally enforced rates of pay - if the Head likes you then they can pay you more. The person doing the same job can be paid much less. Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint. Would you smile? Guess why the teachers are on strike...[/p][/quote]Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got the same pay as you and did half the work much less skillfully than you and when they are off sick and getting paid you have to do their work as well as your own and you had no legal right of complaint. Nebs
  • Score: 2

10:54pm Sat 28 Sep 13

woolstone says...

Its just not about pensions but a load of other issues that Mr. Gove in his wisdom thought it would be a good idea to change, more paperwork and interfering how teachers are paid. I would guess that if the Police could strict they would be joining them for the same reasons. Government have not got a clue how to treat public sector works and many private companies are just as bad. If you want changes you have to stick together.
Its just not about pensions but a load of other issues that Mr. Gove in his wisdom thought it would be a good idea to change, more paperwork and interfering how teachers are paid. I would guess that if the Police could strict they would be joining them for the same reasons. Government have not got a clue how to treat public sector works and many private companies are just as bad. If you want changes you have to stick together. woolstone
  • Score: 10

7:20am Sun 29 Sep 13

Rochford Rob says...

Someone who's been living on another plant for years wrote:

"Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint"

Welcome to the real world dear. I have no idea what my colleagues earn and nor should I.

I am paid based on my skills and expertise. If I happen to be better at something than someone else and work harder, I see no reason why they should earn as much as I do.

Teachers are like bloody communists.

Given the number of text speaking thickoes they've been churning out for the past 20 years or so, I reckon we should all get a rebate.
Someone who's been living on another plant for years wrote: "Try thinking about it in what you do - how would you like it if the person next door to you got double your pay and your pay got halved to pay for it and you had no legal right of complaint" Welcome to the real world dear. I have no idea what my colleagues earn and nor should I. I am paid based on my skills and expertise. If I happen to be better at something than someone else and work harder, I see no reason why they should earn as much as I do. Teachers are like bloody communists. Given the number of text speaking thickoes they've been churning out for the past 20 years or so, I reckon we should all get a rebate. Rochford Rob
  • Score: -2

10:58am Sun 29 Sep 13

Letmetryagain says...

It does make you wonder why so many go into teaching, as it appears to be such an arduous occupation.
Please don't tell me it's because of a calling from on high.

Many people in the public sector have had their pay and pensions affected.
My wife was told she would have to work longer, and get a smaller pension at the end. She didn't go on strike though.
It does make you wonder why so many go into teaching, as it appears to be such an arduous occupation. Please don't tell me it's because of a calling from on high. Many people in the public sector have had their pay and pensions affected. My wife was told she would have to work longer, and get a smaller pension at the end. She didn't go on strike though. Letmetryagain
  • Score: -8

12:32pm Sun 29 Sep 13

tricklesthegreek says...

Teachers do not have to notify head teachers until 24 hours before any strike action. This is why schools cannot advise if they will be open or closed. What parents need to remember is that schools are not a child care service. There will be plenty of child minders who will be willing to take the children for the day, and let's not forget not all teachers are striking for their own personal reasons. I have decided not to strike as I don't believe it will make things any better, but unfortunately my school is still closing because the majority of teachers are striking. Guess who will get bashed for being a 'lazy money-grabbing teacher' even though I still will be reporting to work on Tuesday...when the firefighters and the other public sector workers strike no one bashes them - it has become socially acceptable to ridicule teachers and frankly it is pathetic.
Teachers do not have to notify head teachers until 24 hours before any strike action. This is why schools cannot advise if they will be open or closed. What parents need to remember is that schools are not a child care service. There will be plenty of child minders who will be willing to take the children for the day, and let's not forget not all teachers are striking for their own personal reasons. I have decided not to strike as I don't believe it will make things any better, but unfortunately my school is still closing because the majority of teachers are striking. Guess who will get bashed for being a 'lazy money-grabbing teacher' even though I still will be reporting to work on Tuesday...when the firefighters and the other public sector workers strike no one bashes them - it has become socially acceptable to ridicule teachers and frankly it is pathetic. tricklesthegreek
  • Score: 14

12:34pm Sun 29 Sep 13

supermadmax says...

Do me a favour most of these lazy no marks are looking for an excuse to take a day off work.
Do me a favour most of these lazy no marks are looking for an excuse to take a day off work. supermadmax
  • Score: -14

12:40pm Sun 29 Sep 13

tomjea says...

I am looking forward to the windfall I will get when I invoice the school for my children's missed time- what is it, £100 per day per child? If schools think it so vital children not miss any school and parents then have to pay sky-high premiums for holidays, surely I should get a refund?!
They can't say they are doing a good job and deserve special pay and conditions- half the kids coming out of school cannot write!
Tom Jea.
I am looking forward to the windfall I will get when I invoice the school for my children's missed time- what is it, £100 per day per child? If schools think it so vital children not miss any school and parents then have to pay sky-high premiums for holidays, surely I should get a refund?! They can't say they are doing a good job and deserve special pay and conditions- half the kids coming out of school cannot write! Tom Jea. tomjea
  • Score: 0

1:14pm Sun 29 Sep 13

Jack222 says...

'give headteachers greater power over salaries'

The point is simple - with the new rules teachers can have their pay altered at whim. No contract. Currently you have a contract and set pay. Would you want to go onto a new way of working where you had no assured income consistency? No. Ok, there are some out there on this level but would they want to stay on that. No. Teachers don't want to go down to this absurd bottom of the barrel level of wages; nor should they. Or do you want your children to be taught by non-graduate thickos?
'give headteachers greater power over salaries' The point is simple - with the new rules teachers can have their pay altered at whim. No contract. Currently you have a contract and set pay. Would you want to go onto a new way of working where you had no assured income consistency? No. Ok, there are some out there on this level but would they want to stay on that. No. Teachers don't want to go down to this absurd bottom of the barrel level of wages; nor should they. Or do you want your children to be taught by non-graduate thickos? Jack222
  • Score: 5

3:05pm Sun 29 Sep 13

caroljb says...

It is the government that are to blame here not the teachers. Would you want your child (pre-school or secondary) taught by a teacher in their mid 60s? Or call out an ambulance and they cannot physically lift you as they are mid 60s? Police officers who cannot chase robbers as they are mid 60s? Or fire fighters who can no longer rescue you from a burning building??

Front line public service workers have been told to work until 67, with a reduced pension. Previously they retired 55-60, allowing fresh young recruits into the profession. How will YOU feel in 20 years when there are less jobs for your children because the government will not let public service employees retire??
It is the government that are to blame here not the teachers. Would you want your child (pre-school or secondary) taught by a teacher in their mid 60s? Or call out an ambulance and they cannot physically lift you as they are mid 60s? Police officers who cannot chase robbers as they are mid 60s? Or fire fighters who can no longer rescue you from a burning building?? Front line public service workers have been told to work until 67, with a reduced pension. Previously they retired 55-60, allowing fresh young recruits into the profession. How will YOU feel in 20 years when there are less jobs for your children because the government will not let public service employees retire?? caroljb
  • Score: 4

4:33pm Sun 29 Sep 13

profondo asbo says...

retire at 67 - gosh how novel? why do the public sector get to retire before everyone else? and when they retire they get a gold plated final salary pension! the teachers work a 39 week vs a 48 week in the private sector. that means a teacher should work till age 82 to work the same number of man weeks. all teachers should think long and hard before they strike as the public is most definitely not on side.
retire at 67 - gosh how novel? why do the public sector get to retire before everyone else? and when they retire they get a gold plated final salary pension! the teachers work a 39 week vs a 48 week in the private sector. that means a teacher should work till age 82 to work the same number of man weeks. all teachers should think long and hard before they strike as the public is most definitely not on side. profondo asbo
  • Score: 0

5:51pm Sun 29 Sep 13

girlie71 says...

Holt farm juniors are in special measures, I can't believe that the pupils and parents are targets again ... Before you think your job is hard, try sling a days pay and a days education .. Maybe I will bill the school for my loss of earnings
Holt farm juniors are in special measures, I can't believe that the pupils and parents are targets again ... Before you think your job is hard, try sling a days pay and a days education .. Maybe I will bill the school for my loss of earnings girlie71
  • Score: -3

6:32pm Sun 29 Sep 13

profondo asbo says...

brother can you spare a hammer and sickle?
brother can you spare a hammer and sickle? profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

7:15pm Sun 29 Sep 13

Rochford Rob says...

caroljb wrote:
It is the government that are to blame here not the teachers. Would you want your child (pre-school or secondary) taught by a teacher in their mid 60s? Or call out an ambulance and they cannot physically lift you as they are mid 60s? Police officers who cannot chase robbers as they are mid 60s? Or fire fighters who can no longer rescue you from a burning building??

Front line public service workers have been told to work until 67, with a reduced pension. Previously they retired 55-60, allowing fresh young recruits into the profession. How will YOU feel in 20 years when there are less jobs for your children because the government will not let public service employees retire??
One of my primary school teachers was in her 70s and an excellent teacher she was too. She could sing, play piano and kept us enthralled whilst she educated us.

Many of my senior school teachers we older too. One was 90 and still going strong.

Men and women with a vocation and experience in life, not willing to go out on strike at a moments' notice, plus many had served their country before going into education, not collecting some Mickey Mouse degree at a a 'Polyversity'
[quote][p][bold]caroljb[/bold] wrote: It is the government that are to blame here not the teachers. Would you want your child (pre-school or secondary) taught by a teacher in their mid 60s? Or call out an ambulance and they cannot physically lift you as they are mid 60s? Police officers who cannot chase robbers as they are mid 60s? Or fire fighters who can no longer rescue you from a burning building?? Front line public service workers have been told to work until 67, with a reduced pension. Previously they retired 55-60, allowing fresh young recruits into the profession. How will YOU feel in 20 years when there are less jobs for your children because the government will not let public service employees retire??[/p][/quote]One of my primary school teachers was in her 70s and an excellent teacher she was too. She could sing, play piano and kept us enthralled whilst she educated us. Many of my senior school teachers we older too. One was 90 and still going strong. Men and women with a vocation and experience in life, not willing to go out on strike at a moments' notice, plus many had served their country before going into education, not collecting some Mickey Mouse degree at a a 'Polyversity' Rochford Rob
  • Score: 5

10:47pm Sun 29 Sep 13

Altravista says...

Teachers have a right to strike and I understand why some will do so, and why some won't. As for "childcare" schools are schools, not a babysitting service. In my household it matters not if my child has to miss one day of school - it's only one day, and we can do something educational at home, as we have the traditional set-up of one parent going out to work, the other staying at home to look after the house and children. Simple really.
Teachers have a right to strike and I understand why some will do so, and why some won't. As for "childcare" schools are schools, not a babysitting service. In my household it matters not if my child has to miss one day of school - it's only one day, and we can do something educational at home, as we have the traditional set-up of one parent going out to work, the other staying at home to look after the house and children. Simple really. Altravista
  • Score: 0

9:32am Mon 30 Sep 13

johanuk says...

caroljb wrote:
It is the government that are to blame here not the teachers. Would you want your child (pre-school or secondary) taught by a teacher in their mid 60s? Or call out an ambulance and they cannot physically lift you as they are mid 60s? Police officers who cannot chase robbers as they are mid 60s? Or fire fighters who can no longer rescue you from a burning building??

Front line public service workers have been told to work until 67, with a reduced pension. Previously they retired 55-60, allowing fresh young recruits into the profession. How will YOU feel in 20 years when there are less jobs for your children because the government will not let public service employees retire??
Eh?.......when i was at school most of the teachers were OVER 60 !!......it certainly did not mean an inferior education!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]caroljb[/bold] wrote: It is the government that are to blame here not the teachers. Would you want your child (pre-school or secondary) taught by a teacher in their mid 60s? Or call out an ambulance and they cannot physically lift you as they are mid 60s? Police officers who cannot chase robbers as they are mid 60s? Or fire fighters who can no longer rescue you from a burning building?? Front line public service workers have been told to work until 67, with a reduced pension. Previously they retired 55-60, allowing fresh young recruits into the profession. How will YOU feel in 20 years when there are less jobs for your children because the government will not let public service employees retire??[/p][/quote]Eh?.......when i was at school most of the teachers were OVER 60 !!......it certainly did not mean an inferior education!!!!!! johanuk
  • Score: 1

12:32pm Mon 30 Sep 13

rayleigh123 says...

tomjea wrote:
I am looking forward to the windfall I will get when I invoice the school for my children's missed time- what is it, £100 per day per child? If schools think it so vital children not miss any school and parents then have to pay sky-high premiums for holidays, surely I should get a refund?! They can't say they are doing a good job and deserve special pay and conditions- half the kids coming out of school cannot write! Tom Jea.
Your totally right - I think all parents should invoice the schools

When you think about what with strike days, non-pupil days, staff training days linked to most classes finishing at 3.00 pm it makes a total mockery of the statement "children must no loose one day of education due to unauthorised holidays".


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[quote][p][bold]tomjea[/bold] wrote: I am looking forward to the windfall I will get when I invoice the school for my children's missed time- what is it, £100 per day per child? If schools think it so vital children not miss any school and parents then have to pay sky-high premiums for holidays, surely I should get a refund?! They can't say they are doing a good job and deserve special pay and conditions- half the kids coming out of school cannot write! Tom Jea.[/p][/quote]Your totally right - I think all parents should invoice the schools When you think about what with strike days, non-pupil days, staff training days linked to most classes finishing at 3.00 pm it makes a total mockery of the statement "children must no loose one day of education due to unauthorised holidays". . rayleigh123
  • Score: 1

1:50pm Mon 30 Sep 13

RTBBAS says...

I could have had a fun day out with my child whilst arranging a day of paid leave from work. But, no, not allowed any days out during term time, or a £60 fine for each parent for unauthorised leave. Sarcasm aside, whilst agreeing to strike means you give-up your salary for its duration. The teachers are losing a days pay, but in the process causing a lot of problems for tax payers (and non tax payers). As others have said, fine the teachers £60 each for unauthorised leave.
I could have had a fun day out with my child whilst arranging a day of paid leave from work. But, no, not allowed any days out during term time, or a £60 fine for each parent for unauthorised leave. Sarcasm aside, whilst agreeing to strike means you give-up your salary for its duration. The teachers are losing a days pay, but in the process causing a lot of problems for tax payers (and non tax payers). As others have said, fine the teachers £60 each for unauthorised leave. RTBBAS
  • Score: 0

9:25pm Mon 30 Sep 13

Letmetryagain says...

All part of the joy of having kids.
All part of the joy of having kids. Letmetryagain
  • Score: 0

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