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'Mountain of paperwork' causes benefits nightmare for Blackburn cancer survivor

A CANCER survivor has had her benefits cut off after struggling to keep up with the ‘mountain of paperwork’ she was required to complete following the Government’s welfare changes.

Penny Irving, from Blackburn, said her problems started when she could not attend a workplace assessment in Preston, due to her ongoing health problems.

The mum-of-three, of Worcester Road, said: “I rang them up and told them I couldn’t go all the way to Preston because of my mobility problems and regular injections in my leg.

“The lady said that was fine and my money still went in, but then I got another letter saying my benefits were going to stop because I hadn’t had the assessment.

“I phoned up again and they said my payments would be stopping. Now they’ve said there’s nothing they can do and I’ll have to fill in the appeal form and say why I still need the benefits.

“My family are now having to help me out financially while I go through the appeal process.”

The Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) said those who cannot attend an assessment due to mobility problems can request a home visit, though Penny claimed she was not made aware of this.

The 49-year-old, who was forced to give up her job as a care assistant, said she was ‘riddled’ with cancer in 2008, and told by doctors at the Christie Hospital in Manchester it was a ‘miracle’ she survived following chemo and radiotherapy treatment.

But she has ongoing problems with her legs and respiratory system, and a lump has recently appeared in her throat which means she is due back at The Christie next month, for fear the cancer may have returned.

She said: “Before the changes my money would go in every fortnight, but now there’s a mountain of paperwork I can’t cope with - I’ve got enough to worry about with this lump.”

The DWP said the categories of cancer treatments under which claimants may be treated as having limited capability to work was expanded after an independent review in 2011, and now include those awaiting, receiving or recovering from chemotherapy or radiotherapy treatment.

A spokesman said: “If someone isn't able to attend an assessment because of mobility issues, they can request a home visit. Unfortunately if they don't request a home visit, and then subsequently fail to attend a scheduled assessment, their benefits can be stopped.”

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8:23am Sun 28 Apr 13

chris283 says...

stopping her benefits i can not believe what i am reading , she has cancer you scum bags i know they have to sanction 3 people a week and i believe the poor woman when she says she did not know about the home visits they do not tell you anything like this thats how they trap you but to cut some ones money when they have cancer is a disgrace, write to your mp love but there as useful as a chocolate kettle SCUMBAGS
stopping her benefits i can not believe what i am reading , she has cancer you scum bags i know they have to sanction 3 people a week and i believe the poor woman when she says she did not know about the home visits they do not tell you anything like this thats how they trap you but to cut some ones money when they have cancer is a disgrace, write to your mp love but there as useful as a chocolate kettle SCUMBAGS chris283
  • Score: 20

9:15am Sun 28 Apr 13

chris283 says...

vote ukip i have never voted in my life but this time i will be just to get these tory scumbags out like it said she did not know they do home visits they will not tell you that that is how they trap you like i say there pure scum they don't help you you can not even use the phones in the jobcenter i asked they said it were for benefits only , total scumbags they are
vote ukip i have never voted in my life but this time i will be just to get these tory scumbags out like it said she did not know they do home visits they will not tell you that that is how they trap you like i say there pure scum they don't help you you can not even use the phones in the jobcenter i asked they said it were for benefits only , total scumbags they are chris283
  • Score: -10

10:01am Sun 28 Apr 13

frank says...

ukip are worse that the scumbag tories on benefits.
still the money they've saved robbing this woman can be put to better use cleaning an mp's duckpond can't it.
ukip are worse that the scumbag tories on benefits. still the money they've saved robbing this woman can be put to better use cleaning an mp's duckpond can't it. frank
  • Score: 4

10:03am Sun 28 Apr 13

HarryBosch says...

The measure of a civilised society is how it treats it's vulnerable people. This lady clearly is quite vulnerable. Whether she has or had cancer it matters not. She is ill and needs help.
You will find no compassion from this government, they are only interested in looking after the wealthier citizens of our country. The sooner they are voted out the better.
The measure of a civilised society is how it treats it's vulnerable people. This lady clearly is quite vulnerable. Whether she has or had cancer it matters not. She is ill and needs help. You will find no compassion from this government, they are only interested in looking after the wealthier citizens of our country. The sooner they are voted out the better. HarryBosch
  • Score: 13

10:05am Sun 28 Apr 13

mavrick says...

Why am I not surprised by Jack Herer's usual right wing anti labour rants. This woman may well have missed an appointment or been to unwell to attend. As for the comment riddled with cancer I think you will find she did not say that, but as usual right wing jack hopped on the band wagon. People who are sick like this lady need all the help they can get, It does cost a lot more to live when you are so unwell. It is interesting to note the benefit bashers are in the minority now the truth has come out, People do not want to see the sick and disabled along with the genuine unemployed suffering the degradation we are seeing daily. It is to our shame that food banks are becoming a necessity for people to survive in Britain 2013.
Why am I not surprised by Jack Herer's usual right wing anti labour rants. This woman may well have missed an appointment or been to unwell to attend. As for the comment riddled with cancer I think you will find she did not say that, but as usual right wing jack hopped on the band wagon. People who are sick like this lady need all the help they can get, It does cost a lot more to live when you are so unwell. It is interesting to note the benefit bashers are in the minority now the truth has come out, People do not want to see the sick and disabled along with the genuine unemployed suffering the degradation we are seeing daily. It is to our shame that food banks are becoming a necessity for people to survive in Britain 2013. mavrick
  • Score: 10

10:17am Sun 28 Apr 13

shytalk says...

Hopefullywhen the tories are thrown out then someone will sort this disgusting mess out that Cameron and his fellow clowns have created.
Hopefullywhen the tories are thrown out then someone will sort this disgusting mess out that Cameron and his fellow clowns have created. shytalk
  • Score: 9

10:43am Sun 28 Apr 13

chris283 says...

i worked for 14 mths part time they wont give me money cause i aint payed in the system but you get theses foreigners coming over and they get the lot told u vote ukip and close the borders and get rid of theses tory scumbags i justwatch atched on the news that plonker ids asked the old ladies to give there benifits back they saved us from hitler in the war outrageous these torys are
i worked for 14 mths part time they wont give me money cause i aint payed in the system but you get theses foreigners coming over and they get the lot told u vote ukip and close the borders and get rid of theses tory scumbags i justwatch atched on the news that plonker ids asked the old ladies to give there benifits back they saved us from hitler in the war outrageous these torys are chris283
  • Score: 6

10:54am Sun 28 Apr 13

chris283 says...

jack you torie plank your partys going out of office read it and weep you clown
jack you torie plank your partys going out of office read it and weep you clown chris283
  • Score: 6

11:20am Sun 28 Apr 13

mys says...

A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time
A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time mys
  • Score: 4

11:38am Sun 28 Apr 13

chris283 says...

mys every one has seen the light with these tory scum they will be going out pal and they know it
mys every one has seen the light with these tory scum they will be going out pal and they know it chris283
  • Score: 7

12:24pm Sun 28 Apr 13

woolywords says...

The sad fact of the matter is that the benefits system is heavily weighted against claimants. My sister in law worked for them for many years and told us all that they were instructed to NOT inform claimants of what their benefit entitlement was unless, they specifically requested it.
So now, with everyone getting smarter about about this wicked wheeze, they keep changing the names of the benefits, from one year to the next.
How many times have they changed the name of National Assistance, since it was created? UB40, anyone?

As Harry Bosch has said, a nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members, words by Ghandi, but very relevant to this country. Somewhere along the line, we have lost that spark of human compassion that is within each of us. We are being led by a rabid jingoistic media that revels in kicking those who can least defend themselves. Let them say the same about those who can afford the litigation costs and see how long their businesses can last. Far better to kick a cripple or whack someone without work through no fault of their own though, isn't it/
Truly, this government does nothing to encourage a sense of self-worth in anyone in this country, by it divisive tactics of policy.
We stand at a crossroads, in terms of politics, since all of us, on less than £50k per annum are being reamed royally, by both sides and centre ground politicians.
The days of Yah-Boo governance is coming to an end, as people realise that when a vote seeking politician makes an electoral promise, not a single one of them is implemented, once they achieve power.
Lied to, for too long! Away with the lot of them and let's have a fresh start. I'd sooner live a lifetime under a Fascist or Communist Govt. than spend another day under any of the parties we have at them moment. The screen is rent asunder, the truth exposed, we see you all for what you truly are, complete and utter liars.

If you know that the war in Iraq is based on a false premise, why are we still there?

Why has there been legislation to prevent any public enquiry being totally free from ministerial interference?

If you make an electoral promise, why do you lack the courage of your convictions and not resign, when it's not implemented?

Your actions, or lack thereof, are driving people in their droves, into the welcoming arms of extremist organisations, of whatever persuasion, and you have nothing nor anyone to blame, other than yourselves.
''Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”, Adolf Hitler, in Mien Kampf but at least he had the good sense to take his own life, when he realised that the game was up!
The sad fact of the matter is that the benefits system is heavily weighted against claimants. My sister in law worked for them for many years and told us all that they were instructed to NOT inform claimants of what their benefit entitlement was unless, they specifically requested it. So now, with everyone getting smarter about about this wicked wheeze, they keep changing the names of the benefits, from one year to the next. How many times have they changed the name of National Assistance, since it was created? UB40, anyone? As Harry Bosch has said, a nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members, words by Ghandi, but very relevant to this country. Somewhere along the line, we have lost that spark of human compassion that is within each of us. We are being led by a rabid jingoistic media that revels in kicking those who can least defend themselves. Let them say the same about those who can afford the litigation costs and see how long their businesses can last. Far better to kick a cripple or whack someone without work through no fault of their own though, isn't it/ Truly, this government does nothing to encourage a sense of self-worth in anyone in this country, by it divisive tactics of policy. We stand at a crossroads, in terms of politics, since all of us, on less than £50k per annum are being reamed royally, by both sides and centre ground politicians. The days of Yah-Boo governance is coming to an end, as people realise that when a vote seeking politician makes an electoral promise, not a single one of them is implemented, once they achieve power. Lied to, for too long! Away with the lot of them and let's have a fresh start. I'd sooner live a lifetime under a Fascist or Communist Govt. than spend another day under any of the parties we have at them moment. The screen is rent asunder, the truth exposed, we see you all for what you truly are, complete and utter liars. If you know that the war in Iraq is based on a false premise, why are we still there? Why has there been legislation to prevent any public enquiry being totally free from ministerial interference? If you make an electoral promise, why do you lack the courage of your convictions and not resign, when it's not implemented? Your actions, or lack thereof, are driving people in their droves, into the welcoming arms of extremist organisations, of whatever persuasion, and you have nothing nor anyone to blame, other than yourselves. ''Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”, Adolf Hitler, in Mien Kampf but at least he had the good sense to take his own life, when he realised that the game was up! woolywords
  • Score: 8

12:47pm Sun 28 Apr 13

karltop says...

The headline should read ;

"dirty, something-for-nothin
g lefty losers moaning again"
The headline should read ; "dirty, something-for-nothin g lefty losers moaning again" karltop
  • Score: -13

2:01pm Sun 28 Apr 13

B52bomber says...

After reading all your comments, one is prompted to make a comment, the tories have done well & will always do well, tackling the benefit problem to the crumbling NHS, GOOD LUCK TORIES YOU HAVE MY VOTE.
After reading all your comments, one is prompted to make a comment, the tories have done well & will always do well, tackling the benefit problem to the crumbling NHS, GOOD LUCK TORIES YOU HAVE MY VOTE. B52bomber
  • Score: -13

4:04pm Sun 28 Apr 13

dianeakala says...

I know the problems people are facing and it is a fact that they do stop the benefits and as from the end of April, anyone who appeals will lose their benefits until the appeal is heard. Most ESA benefits now are only paid for 12 months then you need to apply for the payments to continue. I use this site to help my clients which as a wide range of info and help for filling the forms in, appeals etc. It costs £18 a year http://www.benefitsa
ndwork.co.uk/about-u
s
I know the problems people are facing and it is a fact that they do stop the benefits and as from the end of April, anyone who appeals will lose their benefits until the appeal is heard. Most ESA benefits now are only paid for 12 months then you need to apply for the payments to continue. I use this site to help my clients which as a wide range of info and help for filling the forms in, appeals etc. It costs £18 a year http://www.benefitsa ndwork.co.uk/about-u s dianeakala
  • Score: 2

4:30pm Sun 28 Apr 13

chris283 says...

with a name like b52 bomber what more can i say you torie looser your scummy party are getting booted out follow them you dumb plank
with a name like b52 bomber what more can i say you torie looser your scummy party are getting booted out follow them you dumb plank chris283
  • Score: 0

4:33pm Sun 28 Apr 13

doctor1970 says...

Never pay anything into the system because it all goes to help the mps line their pockets
Never pay anything into the system because it all goes to help the mps line their pockets doctor1970
  • Score: 4

4:42pm Sun 28 Apr 13

doctor1970 says...

Anyone with any benefits issues and the benefits system should go to The people vs the government DWP and atos on facebook
Anyone with any benefits issues and the benefits system should go to The people vs the government DWP and atos on facebook doctor1970
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Sun 28 Apr 13

BIG BOSS says...

A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time.

Well said.!!!
You forgot to mention the clinically obese and the lowest of low, the once that claim sickness benefits and dla and their is nothing wrong with them, what so ever, they should be employing more people to catch these scumbags ,than giving huge amounts of tax payers money, to overated doctors, to sign the real sick and disabled people off benefits.
A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time. Well said.!!! You forgot to mention the clinically obese and the lowest of low, the once that claim sickness benefits and dla and their is nothing wrong with them, what so ever, they should be employing more people to catch these scumbags ,than giving huge amounts of tax payers money, to overated doctors, to sign the real sick and disabled people off benefits. BIG BOSS
  • Score: 2

5:03pm Sun 28 Apr 13

BIG BOSS says...

mys says...

A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time.


Well said.!!!
You forgot to mention the clinically obese and the lowest of low, the once that claim sickness benefits and dla and their is nothing wrong with them, what so ever, they should be employing more people to catch these scumbags ,than giving huge amounts of tax payers money, to overated doctors, to sign the real sick and disabled people off benefits.
mys says... A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time. Well said.!!! You forgot to mention the clinically obese and the lowest of low, the once that claim sickness benefits and dla and their is nothing wrong with them, what so ever, they should be employing more people to catch these scumbags ,than giving huge amounts of tax payers money, to overated doctors, to sign the real sick and disabled people off benefits. BIG BOSS
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Sun 28 Apr 13

volvowoman says...

anyone who has cancer or is being treated for cancer just needs to get in touch with Macmillan, they will help anyone to get any benefit they are entitled to and even get someone fro DWP to do a home visit to help with the forms. It does not matter a jot who is in power, this charity knows the system inside out and will help get the ones who need it helped.
Now please go and get on with it...life is short
anyone who has cancer or is being treated for cancer just needs to get in touch with Macmillan, they will help anyone to get any benefit they are entitled to and even get someone fro DWP to do a home visit to help with the forms. It does not matter a jot who is in power, this charity knows the system inside out and will help get the ones who need it helped. Now please go and get on with it...life is short volvowoman
  • Score: 3

6:00pm Sun 28 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

chris283 wrote:
vote ukip i have never voted in my life but this time i will be just to get these tory scumbags out like it said she did not know they do home visits they will not tell you that that is how they trap you like i say there pure scum they don't help you you can not even use the phones in the jobcenter i asked they said it were for benefits only , total scumbags they are
UKIP aren't looking out for the man in the street unfortunately.

It's a load of power crazy goons going for the popular vote, and unfortunately stringing the general public along in the process with a load of scare stories.
[quote][p][bold]chris283[/bold] wrote: vote ukip i have never voted in my life but this time i will be just to get these tory scumbags out like it said she did not know they do home visits they will not tell you that that is how they trap you like i say there pure scum they don't help you you can not even use the phones in the jobcenter i asked they said it were for benefits only , total scumbags they are[/p][/quote]UKIP aren't looking out for the man in the street unfortunately. It's a load of power crazy goons going for the popular vote, and unfortunately stringing the general public along in the process with a load of scare stories. Jack Herer
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Sun 28 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

frank wrote:
ukip are worse that the scumbag tories on benefits.
still the money they've saved robbing this woman can be put to better use cleaning an mp's duckpond can't it.
The Tories do shoot themselves in the foot there. You can't help thinking that some Conservative MPs genuinely believe they are part of the ruling class and are better than the rest of us.

Cameron, in fairness, does seem to be trying.
[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: ukip are worse that the scumbag tories on benefits. still the money they've saved robbing this woman can be put to better use cleaning an mp's duckpond can't it.[/p][/quote]The Tories do shoot themselves in the foot there. You can't help thinking that some Conservative MPs genuinely believe they are part of the ruling class and are better than the rest of us. Cameron, in fairness, does seem to be trying. Jack Herer
  • Score: 1

6:21pm Sun 28 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

HarryBosch wrote:
The measure of a civilised society is how it treats it's vulnerable people. This lady clearly is quite vulnerable. Whether she has or had cancer it matters not. She is ill and needs help.
You will find no compassion from this government, they are only interested in looking after the wealthier citizens of our country. The sooner they are voted out the better.
I appreciate your first sentence. I said it the other day in a comment which got printed in fact.

It's not about looking after the wealthiest citizens, it's about having a system which is sustainable and fair. Not a free for all cash giveaway.
[quote][p][bold]HarryBosch[/bold] wrote: The measure of a civilised society is how it treats it's vulnerable people. This lady clearly is quite vulnerable. Whether she has or had cancer it matters not. She is ill and needs help. You will find no compassion from this government, they are only interested in looking after the wealthier citizens of our country. The sooner they are voted out the better.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your first sentence. I said it the other day in a comment which got printed in fact. It's not about looking after the wealthiest citizens, it's about having a system which is sustainable and fair. Not a free for all cash giveaway. Jack Herer
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Sun 28 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

mavrick wrote:
Why am I not surprised by Jack Herer's usual right wing anti labour rants. This woman may well have missed an appointment or been to unwell to attend. As for the comment riddled with cancer I think you will find she did not say that, but as usual right wing jack hopped on the band wagon. People who are sick like this lady need all the help they can get, It does cost a lot more to live when you are so unwell. It is interesting to note the benefit bashers are in the minority now the truth has come out, People do not want to see the sick and disabled along with the genuine unemployed suffering the degradation we are seeing daily. It is to our shame that food banks are becoming a necessity for people to survive in Britain 2013.
Too true. That's why I said the other day that the litmus test of a civilised society is how they treat their most vulnerable.

But....how do we get away from overly abused system which pays someone with no questions asks, even if circumstances change?

We are skint as a country. Our finances are run on debt. What is the solution therefore? Constantly blaming the cuts simply isn't the answer. It's not living in the real world in fact.
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: Why am I not surprised by Jack Herer's usual right wing anti labour rants. This woman may well have missed an appointment or been to unwell to attend. As for the comment riddled with cancer I think you will find she did not say that, but as usual right wing jack hopped on the band wagon. People who are sick like this lady need all the help they can get, It does cost a lot more to live when you are so unwell. It is interesting to note the benefit bashers are in the minority now the truth has come out, People do not want to see the sick and disabled along with the genuine unemployed suffering the degradation we are seeing daily. It is to our shame that food banks are becoming a necessity for people to survive in Britain 2013.[/p][/quote]Too true. That's why I said the other day that the litmus test of a civilised society is how they treat their most vulnerable. But....how do we get away from overly abused system which pays someone with no questions asks, even if circumstances change? We are skint as a country. Our finances are run on debt. What is the solution therefore? Constantly blaming the cuts simply isn't the answer. It's not living in the real world in fact. Jack Herer
  • Score: -1

6:35pm Sun 28 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

mys wrote:
A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time
How do UKIP intend to deal with the native "scum"?

Blaming the immigrants with shocking scare stories doesn't work there.

That's all UKIP have to offer as well.

Unfortunately that means UKIP simply have more spin than Tony Blair.

UKIP are very low on substance, very heavy on self interest.
[quote][p][bold]mys[/bold] wrote: A friend of mine nursed he husband who had cancer, they stopped his benifits said he was fit for work and 1 week later he died.this is what David Cameron is doing, I bet when his son was alive he got all the benifits he could for him, now he's just taking every penny he can grab of us British who have worked and paid into the system,I don't begrudge anyone who has to claim benifits as long as its spent on what it should be, it's when you see scum getting it then buying drink, drugs, and not feeding there kids that annoys me, he promised no more forigners would be let in our outcry and look what he's done, then the hard faced **** give them houses, benifits etc and takes it of our own to pay for it, UKIP it is for me this time[/p][/quote]How do UKIP intend to deal with the native "scum"? Blaming the immigrants with shocking scare stories doesn't work there. That's all UKIP have to offer as well. Unfortunately that means UKIP simply have more spin than Tony Blair. UKIP are very low on substance, very heavy on self interest. Jack Herer
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Sun 28 Apr 13

Crazyblade says...

chris283 wrote:
vote ukip i have never voted in my life but this time i will be just to get these tory scumbags out like it said she did not know they do home visits they will not tell you that that is how they trap you like i say there pure scum they don't help you you can not even use the phones in the jobcenter i asked they said it were for benefits only , total scumbags they are
UKIP called claimants a "parasitic underclass of scroungers" in their Policy on Welfare (Google it, it's readily available) so, no, I don't think I'd go anywhere near UKIP.

This poor lady has been treated despicably by ATOS and the DWP, and it's high time this system was changed to protect the vulnerable, not persecute them.
[quote][p][bold]chris283[/bold] wrote: vote ukip i have never voted in my life but this time i will be just to get these tory scumbags out like it said she did not know they do home visits they will not tell you that that is how they trap you like i say there pure scum they don't help you you can not even use the phones in the jobcenter i asked they said it were for benefits only , total scumbags they are[/p][/quote]UKIP called claimants a "parasitic underclass of scroungers" in their Policy on Welfare (Google it, it's readily available) so, no, I don't think I'd go anywhere near UKIP. This poor lady has been treated despicably by ATOS and the DWP, and it's high time this system was changed to protect the vulnerable, not persecute them. Crazyblade
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11:32pm Sun 28 Apr 13

2 for 5p says...

Ha ha ha ( in a evil deep tone )
Benefit claimants Karma is getting you. :-)
Ha ha ha ( in a evil deep tone ) Benefit claimants Karma is getting you. :-) 2 for 5p
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8:10pm Mon 29 Apr 13

wrinkles says...

I question the local Benefits Office.

As I've heard several times on the TV when a government minister has been questioned that the system is too rigid, they have responded that the local office has the discretion to make payments
I question the local Benefits Office. As I've heard several times on the TV when a government minister has been questioned that the system is too rigid, they have responded that the local office has the discretion to make payments wrinkles
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8:14pm Mon 29 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

2 for 5p wrote:
Ha ha ha ( in a evil deep tone )
Benefit claimants Karma is getting you. :-)
In all honesty I'm not entirely sure that the Telegraph should be printing this story. It is inherently such an emotive issue, but it was so politically relevant.

It's tight really to combine the two when it's real life people we are talking about here.

I genuinely don't think they should have allowed comments because it is so easily hijacked which dehumanises it.

I don't see who gains from this story, when it's an open public forum.
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p[/bold] wrote: Ha ha ha ( in a evil deep tone ) Benefit claimants Karma is getting you. :-)[/p][/quote]In all honesty I'm not entirely sure that the Telegraph should be printing this story. It is inherently such an emotive issue, but it was so politically relevant. It's tight really to combine the two when it's real life people we are talking about here. I genuinely don't think they should have allowed comments because it is so easily hijacked which dehumanises it. I don't see who gains from this story, when it's an open public forum. Jack Herer
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8:18pm Mon 29 Apr 13

Jack Herer says...

mavrick wrote:
Why am I not surprised by Jack Herer's usual right wing anti labour rants. This woman may well have missed an appointment or been to unwell to attend. As for the comment riddled with cancer I think you will find she did not say that, but as usual right wing jack hopped on the band wagon. People who are sick like this lady need all the help they can get, It does cost a lot more to live when you are so unwell. It is interesting to note the benefit bashers are in the minority now the truth has come out, People do not want to see the sick and disabled along with the genuine unemployed suffering the degradation we are seeing daily. It is to our shame that food banks are becoming a necessity for people to survive in Britain 2013.
I didn't politicise this first.

It's a genuine toughie, and as such I'm not sure it should even be up for comment.

It's the proper extremes where the facts are far from clear cut.
[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: Why am I not surprised by Jack Herer's usual right wing anti labour rants. This woman may well have missed an appointment or been to unwell to attend. As for the comment riddled with cancer I think you will find she did not say that, but as usual right wing jack hopped on the band wagon. People who are sick like this lady need all the help they can get, It does cost a lot more to live when you are so unwell. It is interesting to note the benefit bashers are in the minority now the truth has come out, People do not want to see the sick and disabled along with the genuine unemployed suffering the degradation we are seeing daily. It is to our shame that food banks are becoming a necessity for people to survive in Britain 2013.[/p][/quote]I didn't politicise this first. It's a genuine toughie, and as such I'm not sure it should even be up for comment. It's the proper extremes where the facts are far from clear cut. Jack Herer
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