‘Stand up and be counted’ call to Blackburn Rovers fans (From Lancashire Telegraph)

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

thresholdweller wrote:
I wonder if the majority of fans understand the finances. The Independent this morning, reports that Henning Berg will have to be paid off £2M. Divided between 10000 fans, that's £200 each - and that is just one terminated contract. I can't believe that a supporters group would be able to take on the debts and running costs even if the Venkys gave the club to them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but to me the Venkys have got to hit lucky, hope that the club stay up, then try to find some decent advice in order to restructure the club over the summer. I feel that if they walk away, we're stuffed.

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

To.guy wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

That shows what a bigoted person you are. I can assure you me and my friends who have joined the trust are not penniless and do not frequent the Aqueduct. We have well paid responsible jobs and I for one, am involved in promoting and running a business for my job. It's actually fans like you are the ones we can do without. Small minded people, people who still would rather have a liar, conman and clueless manager who won relegation. Somebody who takes the side of these despicable owners rather than give some of your own fans credit for at least trying. I never hear you come up with one single sensible suggestion other than repeated boring phrases about people hounding Kean out. Thankfully we arent reliant on your know-how to sort the mess out.

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

jennyspain wrote:
where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no

t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no

t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no

t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

jennyspain wrote:
where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

Ewood 82 wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no


t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

Just think, the money you've blown on compo could've bought a few more tired journeymen picking up a wage!

Ewood 82 wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no


t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

Just think, the money you've blown on compo could've bought a few more tired journeymen picking up a wage!

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood 82 wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no



t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

Just think, the money you've blown on compo could've bought a few more tired journeymen picking up a wage!

Yeah but you're not picking up a wage are you.
What day do you sign on?.....Loser.

benal13 wrote:
is it not time that this paper came out with a banner headline asking the venkys to sell up and get back to plucking chickens instead of breaking news storys that we already know????????????????

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R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

Roverthere wrote:
To be honest, this was one of the owners better decisions, Appleton should never have been appointed in the first place. He never looked capable of getting the team moving or the club sorted out. A bad appointment.

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

Ewood 82 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood 82 wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no




t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

Just think, the money you've blown on compo could've bought a few more tired journeymen picking up a wage!

Yeah but you're not picking up a wage are you.
What day do you sign on?.....Loser.

Same day as you apparently!

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

stopped reading two lines in...

Roverthere wrote:
To be honest, this was one of the owners better decisions, Appleton should never have been appointed in the first place. He never looked capable of getting the team moving or the club sorted out. A bad appointment.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

stopped reading two lines in...

Well you would do. He's just blown you out of the water.

indiana patel wrote:
£10 might buy me two pasties and a drink at Greggs ?
We need John Williams heading a consortium from Middle East to buy back Roers from these Indian Billionaires who are doing a DIY job on the cheap.
You need a professional plumber not a DIY men doing a cowboy jobs at Ewood Park.Indians don't like spending their vast fortune they would keep it in Banks.Indians are not great philanthropist as in India 60% of the population are rich and middle class would not help their fellow 40% poor and destitutes in India.Why a family from India like Venkys who are billionaires want to spend their vast fortune into a small football club in Lancashire unless there is something like marketing tool for their billion dollar company.
We need to get rid of Venkys and people like John Williams could be our saviour.

owd nick wrote:
I'm still (almost) speechless at the supreme idiocy of our owners and Shebby Singh. As we lurch from one disaster to another under these clowns I am now pretty much convinced that the club that has been a significant part of my life for 43 years is nearing the end. I am not too concerned that Appleton was sacked if truth be told, but the method of his dismissal is simply not acceptable and shouldn't be to any decent person. To learn from the TV that you have been sacked then to be handed a letter by a secretary confirming it shows nothing less than cowardice from the person concerned. And that person can only be Shebby the snake. It's also quite obvious that the lack of spine and honour runs straight up the food chain to the top of the Venky's hierarchy, that is evident in the simple fact that they are reneging on Henning Bergs contract. How many other contracts have been reneged on? No understanding, gross incompetence, cowardice, morally bankrupt and totally out of touch with reality. This one single episode proves beyond any reasonable doubt that Venky's are not fit and proper owners of our once great club.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

stopped reading two lines in...

Well you would do. He's just blown you out of the water.

indiana patel wrote:
£10 might buy me two pasties and a drink at Greggs ?
We need John Williams heading a consortium from Middle East to buy back Roers from these Indian Billionaires who are doing a DIY job on the cheap.
You need a professional plumber not a DIY men doing a cowboy jobs at Ewood Park.Indians don't like spending their vast fortune they would keep it in Banks.Indians are not great philanthropist as in India 60% of the population are rich and middle class would not help their fellow 40% poor and destitutes in India.Why a family from India like Venkys who are billionaires want to spend their vast fortune into a small football club in Lancashire unless there is something like marketing tool for their billion dollar company.
We need to get rid of Venkys and people like John Williams could be our saviour.

owd nick wrote:
I'm still (almost) speechless at the supreme idiocy of our owners and Shebby Singh.

As we lurch from one disaster to another under these clowns I am now pretty much convinced that the club that has been a significant part of my life for 43 years is nearing the end.

I am not too concerned that Appleton was sacked if truth be told, but the method of his dismissal is simply not acceptable and shouldn't be to any decent person.

To learn from the TV that you have been sacked then to be handed a letter by a secretary confirming it shows nothing less than cowardice from the person concerned.

And that person can only be Shebby the snake.

It's also quite obvious that the lack of spine and honour runs straight up the food chain to the top of the Venky's hierarchy, that is evident in the simple fact that they are reneging on Henning Bergs contract.

How many other contracts have been reneged on?

No understanding, gross incompetence, cowardice, morally bankrupt and totally out of touch with reality.

This one single episode proves beyond any reasonable doubt that Venky's are not fit and proper owners of our once great club.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood 82 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood 82 wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no





t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

Just think, the money you've blown on compo could've bought a few more tired journeymen picking up a wage!

Yeah but you're not picking up a wage are you.
What day do you sign on?.....Loser.

Same day as you apparently!

Doubt it son. I'm retired with a good income based on good provision for my retirement whilst I was working. See what I mean.....Loser.

R0BB0 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

stopped reading two lines in...

Well you would do. He's just blown you out of the water.

ahh cute, back up

comparing Blackburn to Barcelona's fan ownership !! STUPID

come on !!

what he's saying above... is just rambling !!!!

Harwoodstblue wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

stopped reading two lines in...

Well you would do. He's just blown you out of the water.

ahh cute, back up

comparing Blackburn to Barcelona's fan ownership !! STUPID

come on !!

what he's saying above... is just rambling !!!!

You asked for that Bobbo..There's no need to call fellow supporters stupid. Just say you don't agree.

Ewood 82 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood 82 wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Ewood 82 wrote:

juanbbien wrote:
These pay outs to disposed managers are mind boggling Kean,Berg,Appleton and his Staff,Black,Mimms,no






t to mention whatever the cost of Sams,John williams,Tom Finns severence pay it must amount to a figure somewhere in the region of six or seven million who knows and we are still no nearer,and the Venkys are regarded as astute business people,I mean the mind boggles at the situation how much more money is going to be thrown away by them

Just think, the money you've blown on compo could've bought a few more tired journeymen picking up a wage!

Yeah but you're not picking up a wage are you.
What day do you sign on?.....Loser.

Same day as you apparently!

Doubt it son. I'm retired with a good income based on good provision for my retirement whilst I was working. See what I mean.....Loser.

Berg and Appleton have followed your example old bean!

Only they do two months at laughing stock park, collect the compo, and it's feet up time, with a cigar on!

Fortyfourer wrote:
Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

Norma_scock wrote:
In 2 years BRFC = Shadsworth Rovers Dons with Shebby as player manager leading them to mid table mediocrity in the Hollands cheese & onion pie league 2 reserves division, ground sharing with a proper local team like with proper supporters like AFC Darwen.

Road Runner Road Runner wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:

hasslem hasslem wrote:

R0BB0 wrote:
i dont think this is the solution,

the F.A should force ALL football clubs to have a fan on the board regardless of the owners as part of a continuous 'fit for purpose program' not just an enitial rule at the begining of their ownership?

the trust is a complete non starter, i cant understand why so many people can't see that, its clear as day.

people look at Swansea and say 'it will work' it wont, Swansea is a completly different entity, for the one that worked, there are hundreds that failed...

barcelona, bayern munich, borussia dortmund

are you really that stupid ?

what do you mean "are you really that stupid?" you say swansea is effectively a one off.....its not, it is commonplace on the continent and, in effect, compulsory in germany - seems to work - look at the crowds and success of german clubs at the moment in europe - a genuine part of the community.

swansea had to go bust to be owned by fan groups - look at their success since, compare and contrast that with the likes of pompey, leeds and coventry that have gone through a series of different non-town affiliated owners over the same period - i suspect like most that you don't particularly care for venkys - so what do you think might happen - they will look to make a quick exit and sell to anybody (like the 3 examples above) - we will be passed through a series of owners that neither love or care our club and the denouement will be capitulation of our once great club - and just like at pompey and swansea the supporters will be left to pick up the pieces - if you can't see that series of events unfolding (and i don't normally resort to insults, unless insulted myself) then i need to ask - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
so in your scenario - you put a fan on the board with presumably no voting rights - - what will that achieve with the clowns that are currently in charge. . non execs in public companies have a responsibility to make sure the board is acting on behalf of the shareholders - in rovvers case the shareholders are the venkys - ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?

it may have escaped your narrow-minded perspective - but we had, in effect, fan ownership under jack walker (albeit a beneficial dictatorship) who did what all backburn fans would do if we won the big prize at the bingo (a metaphor for you - not a statement of fact - AS YOU REALLY MAY BE THAT STUPID)

personally, i would wish that there was one person in charge of rovers that had the genuine interest of the club and the town at heart and pulled the relevant strings accordingly - the club currently has no connection with its staff, its supporters and the town - if you think that by keeping the existing framework or selling out to another bunch of overseas "investors" or a venture capital company - that the club will go from strength to strength.....then YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!

i ignore when the likes of wild rover and dangerous dave are ritually slinging insults at each other (just like singh and shaw) and try and treat contributors with respect - but resent it when - just cos someone has a contrary view that insults is the refuge that is sought.

so, in conclusion - i just have a different point of view to you - and am happy to argue the point - but, no sir, i am really not that stupid

stopped reading two lines in...

Well you would do. He's just blown you out of the water.

Ha ha - don't mess with the Hassmeisterlem.

Your spot on their Harwoodsblue :)

What a chuffing mess we are in pal :(

Arte et labore

benal13 wrote:

jennyspain wrote:
where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

maybe so but whats the betting bowyer brings him back in against blackpool ??????

Fortyfourer wrote:
Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

indiana patel wrote:
£10 might buy me two pasties and a drink at Greggs ?
We need John Williams heading a consortium from Middle East to buy back Roers from these Indian Billionaires who are doing a DIY job on the cheap.
You need a professional plumber not a DIY men doing a cowboy jobs at Ewood Park.Indians don't like spending their vast fortune they would keep it in Banks.Indians are not great philanthropist as in India 60% of the population are rich and middle class would not help their fellow 40% poor and destitutes in India.Why a family from India like Venkys who are billionaires want to spend their vast fortune into a small football club in Lancashire unless there is something like marketing tool for their billion dollar company.
We need to get rid of Venkys and people like John Williams could be our saviour.

Fortyfourer wrote:
Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

To.guy wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

That shows what a bigoted person you are. I can assure you me and my friends who have joined the trust are not penniless and do not frequent the Aqueduct. We have well paid responsible jobs and I for one, am involved in promoting and running a business for my job. It's actually fans like you are the ones we can do without. Small minded people, people who still would rather have a liar, conman and clueless manager who won relegation. Somebody who takes the side of these despicable owners rather than give some of your own fans credit for at least trying. I never hear you come up with one single sensible suggestion other than repeated boring phrases about people hounding Kean out. Thankfully we arent reliant on your know-how to sort the mess out.

fishcake 75 wrote:

benal13 wrote:
is it not time that this paper came out with a banner headline asking the venkys to sell up and get back to plucking chickens instead of breaking news storys that we already know????????????????


??

The telegraphs lack of action is as much to blame for what as happened to our club as venkys themselves, they should hve campaigned from the moment alladyce was sacked ,it was apparrent that they did not know what they were doing, many questions should have been asked back then, we are as much in the dark now as we were then,i urge the telegraph to find some answers for us instead of the scoolboy reporting we are getting now i.e quotes from other papers & inocuous interviews with managers and players,peter white will be turning in his grave.

rovers-baz wrote:

jennyspain wrote:
where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

That when he wasn`t being picked but in last 3 weeks has become best buds with shebby

Plus same person told me that appleton was getting the boot sunday morn before the dingle game............

1952 rover wrote:

rovers-baz wrote:

jennyspain wrote: where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

That when he wasn`t being picked but in last 3 weeks has become best buds with shebby Plus same person told me that appleton was getting the boot sunday morn before the dingle game............

name them then

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:

fishcake 75 wrote:

benal13 wrote: is it not time that this paper came out with a banner headline asking the venkys to sell up and get back to plucking chickens instead of breaking news storys that we already know???????????????? ??

The telegraphs lack of action is as much to blame for what as happened to our club as venkys themselves, they should hve campaigned from the moment alladyce was sacked ,it was apparrent that they did not know what they were doing, many questions should have been asked back then, we are as much in the dark now as we were then,i urge the telegraph to find some answers for us instead of the scoolboy reporting we are getting now i.e quotes from other papers & inocuous interviews with managers and players,peter white will be turning in his grave.

Yep. All Cryer's fault. But he's leaving you soon Off to work down South Where he will start supporting a proper team

dangerous dave wrote:
I don't about the fans standing up to be counted. It's about time the incompetent board Of directors did including the likes of coar out with the lot of them the their idiotic decisions have cost us dearly

Chico! wrote:

RespectTheK-Dog wrote:

fishcake 75 wrote:

benal13 wrote: is it not time that this paper came out with a banner headline asking the venkys to sell up and get back to plucking chickens instead of breaking news storys that we already know???????????????? ??

The telegraphs lack of action is as much to blame for what as happened to our club as venkys themselves, they should hve campaigned from the moment alladyce was sacked ,it was apparrent that they did not know what they were doing, many questions should have been asked back then, we are as much in the dark now as we were then,i urge the telegraph to find some answers for us instead of the scoolboy reporting we are getting now i.e quotes from other papers & inocuous interviews with managers and players,peter white will be turning in his grave.

Yep. All Cryer's fault. But he's leaving you soon Off to work down South Where he will start supporting a proper team

No he's not you rem.

Who do you support?

I could do with a laugh!

Bless x

rovers-baz wrote:

benal13 wrote:

jennyspain wrote:
where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

maybe so but whats the betting bowyer brings him back in against blackpool ??????

was back with the 1st team training today ..............

jennyspain wrote:
where do people get these stories from, danny murphy as made it clear he wants out and wants nothing to do with blackburn rovers!

Harwoodstblue wrote:

dangerous dave wrote: I don't about the fans standing up to be counted. It's about time the incompetent board Of directors did including the likes of coar out with the lot of them the their idiotic decisions have cost us dearly

What does Coar actually do? Why is he here? He, like the rest of them has been totally silent this last two and a half years. As a local man and long term director of BRFC why has he not resigned instead of standing by and watching Venkys destroy the club.

thresholdweller wrote:
I wonder if the majority of fans understand the finances. The Independent this morning, reports that Henning Berg will have to be paid off £2M. Divided between 10000 fans, that's £200 each - and that is just one terminated contract. I can't believe that a supporters group would be able to take on the debts and running costs even if the Venkys gave the club to them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but to me the Venkys have got to hit lucky, hope that the club stay up, then try to find some decent advice in order to restructure the club over the summer. I feel that if they walk away, we're stuffed.

campbell69s wrote:

Norma_scock wrote:
In 2 years BRFC = Shadsworth Rovers Dons with Shebby as player manager leading them to mid table mediocrity in the Hollands cheese & onion pie league 2 reserves division, ground sharing with a proper local team like with proper supporters like AFC Darwen.

At least we'd get proper pies again!

BlackburnEyes wrote:

thresholdweller wrote:
I wonder if the majority of fans understand the finances. The Independent this morning, reports that Henning Berg will have to be paid off £2M. Divided between 10000 fans, that's £200 each - and that is just one terminated contract. I can't believe that a supporters group would be able to take on the debts and running costs even if the Venkys gave the club to them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but to me the Venkys have got to hit lucky, hope that the club stay up, then try to find some decent advice in order to restructure the club over the summer. I feel that if they walk away, we're stuffed.

What a joke this once well run club has become! the only way you will make real change is when there is ZERO attendance from home fans during a game at Ewood....Shebby Singh has all the footballing nouse of a microscopic piece of Algae....being generous at that! like it or not it will take drastic measures to get ownership change or the league one will beckon....fans whether they agree or not will have to stand at the gates during match days and let the world see an empty ewood park!

Fortyfourer wrote:
Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

dangerous dave wrote:
I don't about the fans standing up to be counted. It's about time the incompetent board Of directors did including the likes of coar out with the lot of them the their idiotic decisions have cost us dearly

What does Coar actually do? Why is he here? He, like the rest of them has been totally silent this last two and a half years. As a local man and long term director of BRFC why has he not resigned instead of standing by and watching Venkys destroy the club.

roverfor60years wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

dangerous dave wrote:
I don't about the fans standing up to be counted. It's about time the incompetent board Of directors did including the likes of coar out with the lot of them the their idiotic decisions have cost us dearly

What does Coar actually do? Why is he here? He, like the rest of them has been totally silent this last two and a half years. As a local man and long term director of BRFC why has he not resigned instead of standing by and watching Venkys destroy the club.

He is here solely to preserve his seat on the FA Council - and in he process has sold his soul to Venky's

thresholdweller wrote:
I wonder if the majority of fans understand the finances. The Independent this morning, reports that Henning Berg will have to be paid off £2M. Divided between 10000 fans, that's £200 each - and that is just one terminated contract. I can't believe that a supporters group would be able to take on the debts and running costs even if the Venkys gave the club to them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but to me the Venkys have got to hit lucky, hope that the club stay up, then try to find some decent advice in order to restructure the club over the summer. I feel that if they walk away, we're stuffed.

roverfor60years wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

dangerous dave wrote:
I don't about the fans standing up to be counted. It's about time the incompetent board Of directors did including the likes of coar out with the lot of them the their idiotic decisions have cost us dearly

What does Coar actually do? Why is he here? He, like the rest of them has been totally silent this last two and a half years. As a local man and long term director of BRFC why has he not resigned instead of standing by and watching Venkys destroy the club.

He is here solely to preserve his seat on the FA Council - and in he process has sold his soul to Venky's

Donmartin wrote:
Robert Coar could be the saviour of BRFC.

A man of integrity.

Arte et Labore.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Donmartin wrote: Robert Coar could be the saviour of BRFC. A man of integrity. Arte et Labore.

Continue............ .....What makes you think that

fanny.tickler. wrote:

Fortyfourer wrote:
Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

Venky's UK HQ is a modest 2-up, 2-down, on Leaver Street in Rose Grove. This is nerve centre where all planning for operation destroy Rovers takes place.

noddy57 wrote:

thresholdweller wrote:
I wonder if the majority of fans understand the finances. The Independent this morning, reports that Henning Berg will have to be paid off £2M. Divided between 10000 fans, that's £200 each - and that is just one terminated contract. I can't believe that a supporters group would be able to take on the debts and running costs even if the Venkys gave the club to them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but to me the Venkys have got to hit lucky, hope that the club stay up, then try to find some decent advice in order to restructure the club over the summer. I feel that if they walk away, we're stuffed.

l cannot believe that these fans in support of appleton are up in arms over his sacking,,yes the venkys are to blame for our current situation,,no,one is denying that but to suggest it was the wrong decision is ludicrous,,the man should never have been appointed in the first place,,the same applies to Berg and kean,,all obvious mistakes,by Venkys,,we need the Venkys wether you like it or not as the above post suggests, we would be history,,l dont like them as much as the next fan but we have no choice,,this action group will never change a single thing,,the Venkys now should appoint a proven manager and only then can we move forward we must be united to succeed,,

benal13 wrote:
i see our new great leader bowyer has decided to go on holiday to spain talk about prioreties, but when he comes back next week he will be saying how hard everyone has worked in training the circus goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!

fanny.tickler. wrote:

Fortyfourer wrote:
Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

Venky's UK HQ is a modest 2-up, 2-down, on Leaver Street in Rose Grove. This is nerve centre where all planning for operation destroy Rovers takes place.

fanny.tickler. wrote:

Fortyfourer wrote: Does anybody know an address where Mrs. D can be contacted? Maybe, just maybe, a sackful of letters from genuine fans who can express their concerns cooly and calmly without either insult or vitriol might make the Venkys sit up and take note.

Venky's UK HQ is a modest 2-up, 2-down, on Leaver Street in Rose Grove. This is nerve centre where all planning for operation destroy Rovers takes place.

To.guy wrote:

noddy57 wrote:

thresholdweller wrote:
I wonder if the majority of fans understand the finances. The Independent this morning, reports that Henning Berg will have to be paid off £2M. Divided between 10000 fans, that's £200 each - and that is just one terminated contract. I can't believe that a supporters group would be able to take on the debts and running costs even if the Venkys gave the club to them. Perhaps I'm wrong, but to me the Venkys have got to hit lucky, hope that the club stay up, then try to find some decent advice in order to restructure the club over the summer. I feel that if they walk away, we're stuffed.

l cannot believe that these fans in support of appleton are up in arms over his sacking,,yes the venkys are to blame for our current situation,,no,one is denying that but to suggest it was the wrong decision is ludicrous,,the man should never have been appointed in the first place,,the same applies to Berg and kean,,all obvious mistakes,by Venkys,,we need the Venkys wether you like it or not as the above post suggests, we would be history,,l dont like them as much as the next fan but we have no choice,,this action group will never change a single thing,,the Venkys now should appoint a proven manager and only then can we move forward we must be united to succeed,,

They arent going to appoint a proven manager. You are as deluded as those you are complaining about. Don't you think if they had the intention to or capability to appoint a proven manager they would have firstly sacked a proven manager and then appointed 3 unproven and clearly clueless managers? Even our dog learns from mistakes.

Donmartin wrote:

Harwoodstblue wrote:

Donmartin wrote: Robert Coar could be the saviour of BRFC. A man of integrity. Arte et Labore.

Continue............ .....What makes you think that

My dad knows him.

He is the last of the Mohicans in a sense.

Arte et Labore.

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

merlinrabbit wrote:

benal13 wrote:
i see our new great leader bowyer has decided to go on holiday to spain talk about prioreties, but when he comes back next week he will be saying how hard everyone has worked in training the circus goes on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!

How can you criticise him? Do you think he wants the job of trying to drag the club away from another relegation? Do you think when he planned his holiday, he knew he would be back in temporary charge? He could cancel his holiday and there be a new manager in charge by the time he's going such is the unpredictability of Venkys.

owd nick wrote:
While I agree with Mr Jones and Mr Wild, I actually committed to BRSIT in their early days.

But I withdrew my commitment when I had a leaflet thrust in my hand by a BRAG thug who at an earlier game, along with a group of his mates, half scared the life out of my daughter with their "aggression" towards Kean.

When I challenged this guy at that particular game I was told in no uncertain terms to "F**k off and go and get cancer".

If anyone from BRAG is involved with this group at a decision making level then I will take an awful lot of persuading to support them.

BRFC75 wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

Lets have some balls , and lets try and take back our football club .
Is it not better for us to go down to the lowest leagues even the conference ,or whatever rather than be controlled by so called "investors " Americans/Russians/A

rabs .

Who and why are they buying our football clubs ?
Why would a Indian want to buy a town football in Lancashire WHY ?

BRFC75 wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote:
Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions .

Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected .
The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

Lets have some balls , and lets try and take back our football club .
Is it not better for us to go down to the lowest leagues even the conference ,or whatever rather than be controlled by so called "investors " Americans/Russians/A

rabs .

Who and why are they buying our football clubs ?
Why would a Indian want to buy a town football in Lancashire WHY ?

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote: Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions . Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected . The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

ghost of sceptic wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote: Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions . Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected . The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

They are not saying they want to run the club they are saying the more fans on board will give true supporters a say how the club is run. Are you telling me since venkys took over they know how to run a football club, wake up and smell the coffee.

35yearSurrenderMonke
ys wrote:

ghost of sceptic wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote: Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions . Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected . The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

They are not saying they want to run the club they are saying the more fans on board will give true supporters a say how the club is run. Are you telling me since venkys took over they know how to run a football club, wake up and smell the coffee.

For the first time in my life I agree with angry form accy. A couple of tap room domino players and a couple of welders who want to get in there with no money. I'd sooner have Venkeys than some blue tattooed heavy metal sniffing pretender

roverfor60years wrote:
It would be pointless just throwing another manager onto the battle-ground that is Ewood Park.

They now have only one hope. Get John Williams back.

Go cap in hand to John, preferably with a delegation of heavyweight supporters, tell him what idiots they have been, how they were naively stitched up by Agent Anderson (who should by now be their arch-enemy) and plead with him to return.

That would be the only appointment they need to make. Tell him he has full authority to hire and fire and tell him to get on with the job immediately – with their full, unquestioned support.

Hold up their hands, tell him their stupidity has finally been realised and his brief is, if possible, to get the club back to where it was when they took over.

I know many fans are saying he would never come back, but it was Anderson who manoeuvred his departure and, subject to evidence that Anderson/Kentaro/SEM are consigned to history, he might just be tempted to return.

He knows (sorry, knew) the club inside out. It was effectively ‘his’ club and the job of rebuilding it to what it once was might just be the motivation and challenge that stirs him. If he can achieve it – and hopefully nail Anderson to the cross on the way - just think of the unbridled pride and adulation that would bring.

I don’t think money would particularly be a factor, but if he could salvage the club from the wreckage that now exists and get them back to the Premiership a massive, massive bonus would be fitting.

In my view, John is now their only salvation. He would come in here like a whirlwind – something no-one else could do.

But I could well understand it if he is hurting so much that he despises the Venky’s.

Harwoodstblue wrote:

35yearSurrenderMonke

ys wrote:

ghost of sceptic wrote:

Angry From Accrington wrote:

BRFC75 wrote: Shebby Singh has decided he controls the club and will make all the decisions . Singh , the man`s football history is a very poor footballer , probably senior amateur level at best ,he worked on T.V on a panel as a pundit for Premier league football, he was on the same panel as Steve McMahon ,after Singh would make a comment you could see the rye smile coming from the faces of the other panelists as if to say "what sh*t this man talks" , but low and behold he is and was the only guy with an Indian origin that was in any way shape or form involved in football ,hence the naive Venky`s hired him thinking he was respected . The man is a clown and as long as he is there Rovers will continue to slide down , the truth of the matter is he has a massive opinion of his himself , a huge ego , he has plenty of verbal diaorrhea coming out his mouth but he does not have a clue how a football club is run ,we hear from inside sources he chums around with Hendry now, for us to move forward we need a clear out of these types of stupid, self important buffoons.

I agree with everything you say but would still rather have Venkys running the club than a bunch of misguided, penniless amateurs from the Tap Room of the Aqueduct.

They are not saying they want to run the club they are saying the more fans on board will give true supporters a say how the club is run. Are you telling me since venkys took over they know how to run a football club, wake up and smell the coffee.

For the first time in my life I agree with angry form accy. A couple of tap room domino players and a couple of welders who want to get in there with no money. I'd sooner have Venkeys than some blue tattooed heavy metal sniffing pretender

Ah.......Different name, same phrasemes....:-)

owd nick wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
It would be pointless just throwing another manager onto the battle-ground that is Ewood Park.

They now have only one hope. Get John Williams back.

Go cap in hand to John, preferably with a delegation of heavyweight supporters, tell him what idiots they have been, how they were naively stitched up by Agent Anderson (who should by now be their arch-enemy) and plead with him to return.

That would be the only appointment they need to make. Tell him he has full authority to hire and fire and tell him to get on with the job immediately – with their full, unquestioned support.

Hold up their hands, tell him their stupidity has finally been realised and his brief is, if possible, to get the club back to where it was when they took over.

I know many fans are saying he would never come back, but it was Anderson who manoeuvred his departure and, subject to evidence that Anderson/Kentaro/SEM are consigned to history, he might just be tempted to return.

He knows (sorry, knew) the club inside out. It was effectively ‘his’ club and the job of rebuilding it to what it once was might just be the motivation and challenge that stirs him. If he can achieve it – and hopefully nail Anderson to the cross on the way - just think of the unbridled pride and adulation that would bring.

I don’t think money would particularly be a factor, but if he could salvage the club from the wreckage that now exists and get them back to the Premiership a massive, massive bonus would be fitting.

In my view, John is now their only salvation. He would come in here like a whirlwind – something no-one else could do.

But I could well understand it if he is hurting so much that he despises the Venky’s.

While I agree with you regarding John Williams it is never going to happen.

Why?

Because Indian culture is caste driven and based on hierarchial, in this case, matriarchal principles.

And as any married man knows, women are never wrong.

Madame, or for that matter any of the Venky's will never say sorry, in their minds they are doing absolutely nothing wrong and will not listen to or accept criticism from people they simply believe are nothing more than minions.

The only possible way of making them do something is for the value of their organisation as a whole to be affected by what is happening at Ewood.

But that is extremely unlikely because the only people who care about Blackburn Rovers are it's fans.

And that simply isn't enough to have any affect whatsoever.

eddie the eagle wrote:
Next match Murphy in Dunn out,we are back in Shebbys hands and he'll pick the team.

A Darener wrote:
Starts his new job end of season.....Former Blackburn chairman John Williams to be PGMOL chairman

roverfor60years wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Starts his new job end of season.....Former Blackburn chairman John Williams to be PGMOL chairman

Sorry, what's PGMOL?

Harwoodstblue wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:

A Darener wrote:
Starts his new job end of season.....Former Blackburn chairman John Williams to be PGMOL chairman

Sorry, what's PGMOL?

I think he's got a job with the League Managers Association or something like that.

Ewood 82 wrote:
The rate at which the gates a plummeting the counting will be easy.

Rovers fans will be able to count them on their loved one's hooves!!!!!

35yearSurrenderMonke
ys wrote:

owd nick wrote:

roverfor60years wrote:
It would be pointless just throwing another manager onto the battle-ground that is Ewood Park.

They now have only one hope. Get John Williams back.

Go cap in hand to John, preferably with a delegation of heavyweight supporters, tell him what idiots they have been, how they were naively stitched up by Agent Anderson (who should by now be their arch-enemy) and plead with him to return.

That would be the only appointment they need to make. Tell him he has full authority to hire and fire and tell him to get on with the job immediately – with their full, unquestioned support.

Hold up their hands, tell him their stupidity has finally been realised and his brief is, if possible, to get the club back to where it was when they took over.

I know many fans are saying he would never come back, but it was Anderson who manoeuvred his departure and, subject to evidence that Anderson/Kentaro/SEM are consigned to history, he might just be tempted to return.

He knows (sorry, knew) the club inside out. It was effectively ‘his’ club and the job of rebuilding it to what it once was might just be the motivation and challenge that stirs him. If he can achieve it – and hopefully nail Anderson to the cross on the way - just think of the unbridled pride and adulation that would bring.

I don’t think money would particularly be a factor, but if he could salvage the club from the wreckage that now exists and get them back to the Premiership a massive, massive bonus would be fitting.

In my view, John is now their only salvation. He would come in here like a whirlwind – something no-one else could do.

But I could well understand it if he is hurting so much that he despises the Venky’s.

While I agree with you regarding John Williams it is never going to happen.

Why?

Because Indian culture is caste driven and based on hierarchial, in this case, matriarchal principles.

And as any married man knows, women are never wrong.

Madame, or for that matter any of the Venky's will never say sorry, in their minds they are doing absolutely nothing wrong and will not listen to or accept criticism from people they simply believe are nothing more than minions.

The only possible way of making them do something is for the value of their organisation as a whole to be affected by what is happening at Ewood.

But that is extremely unlikely because the only people who care about Blackburn Rovers are it's fans.

And that simply isn't enough to have any affect whatsoever.

Getting John Williams back is never going to happen, why, because he works at the richest club in the world barr none. End of