Baby boom to hit East Lancs school places

3:00pm Tuesday 19th March 2013 in News Photograph of the Author By Jessica Cree, Education reporter

HEADTEACHERS in East Lancashire are preparing for a surge in pupil numbers over the coming years.

It comes as a report by the National Audit Office found that more than 250,000 primary and secondary school places would be needed in England by 2014.

Already several schools have announced they will be expanding to create new places while others said they were struggling to cope with the demand.

One-off increases are recommended for St Andrew’s and St Paul’s CE primary schools in Oswaldtwistle, Woodnook, Hyndburn Park and Peel Park primaries in Accrington and Padiham St Leonard’s CE Primary.

Longer-term there are proposals to increase the intake at St Andrew’s and St Leonard’s to 45 from September 2014.

Hapton CE Methodist Primary School headteacher Jacquie Clarke said some schools could be forced to use libraries and other spare rooms to hold lessons.

She said: “We are oversubscribed, but more places have been allocated at St Leonard’s so we should be OK.

“It is because of the birth rates. The birth rate is going up, but we have still got the same number of places.

“Schools have got to look at space and how many pupils they can accommodate.

“We may have to hold lessons in libraries.

“Teachers would also have to look at the budget to see if they could employ a new teacher for the class.

“It could be very difficult for schools.”

The report highlighted a baby boom as the reason for the increased demand, with the rise in children being born in England between 2001 and 2011 the largest since the 1950s.

But Vincent Murray, headteacher at St Michael and St John’s RC Primary, in Lowergate, Clitheroe, said some areas were also being forced to consider the extra pressure housing applications were putting on schools.

He said: “It is something we have to have an eye on.

“There is regulation on class size and so we can’t start ramming children into classes.

“The logical answer would be to build extensions in the future, but that in itself is not the ideal solution.

“Most of the heads in the area are conscious about what the future will be with the increased demand for places.”

And David Whyte, headteacher at St Wilfrid’s, in Duckworth Street, Blackburn, said secondary schools would feel the brunt as the swell continued through to secondary schools.

He said: “From the figures, we know there will be a bulge coming through from primary schools in 2014.

“We are in one of the areas that the report highlighted as having a high birth rate.

“We are oversubscribed already.”

Lancashire County Council’s head of provision Lynn Mappin said more than 2,000 new primary places were coming on stream with ‘hotspots’ being watched.

Comments (20)

4:43pm Tue 19 Mar 13

mys says...

The reason why there's no places in schools is because all the bloody foreigners come here and take them,like all our jobs and nhs,there's nothing left for us British anymore because the government are a joke
The reason why there's no places in schools is because all the bloody foreigners come here and take them,like all our jobs and nhs,there's nothing left for us British anymore because the government are a joke mys

4:54pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Sajdin says...

mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!! Sajdin

5:06pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Casper's mum says...

It's not due to bloody foreigners, mys, it's due to an increase in birth rates and the trend for having large families (regardless of nationality)
It's not due to bloody foreigners, mys, it's due to an increase in birth rates and the trend for having large families (regardless of nationality) Casper's mum

6:19pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Darren1951 says...

There are probably elements of truth in all three previous postings, even the highly offensive "bloody foreigners" one. The fact remains, though, that unless some more rigourous immigration and asylum seeking checks are put in place, this country will just burst at the seams, and the standard of our already overstretched services will fall even further. It has already started to happen in places like Peterborough and Boston (Lincolnshire).
There are probably elements of truth in all three previous postings, even the highly offensive "bloody foreigners" one. The fact remains, though, that unless some more rigourous immigration and asylum seeking checks are put in place, this country will just burst at the seams, and the standard of our already overstretched services will fall even further. It has already started to happen in places like Peterborough and Boston (Lincolnshire). Darren1951

6:29pm Tue 19 Mar 13

sen c b l says...

mys wrote:
The reason why there's no places in schools is because all the bloody foreigners come here and take them,like all our jobs and nhs,there's nothing left for us British anymore because the government are a joke
Several Asian countries on course of becoming superpowers are now resorting to aggresively attract external investment and talented foreigners to settle and benefit from the accelerated pace of growth. Many have begun to look beyond their shores due to economic changes in thier own countries and reconsider their position whilst taking advantage of shifting of power from the West to the East, and to experience an extremely rich culture.
Maybe now's the time for you and other's to review your stance as 'British', and rest assured any decision to migrate the outcome would not be regretable and of misfortune.

Goodbye!
[quote][p][bold]mys[/bold] wrote: The reason why there's no places in schools is because all the bloody foreigners come here and take them,like all our jobs and nhs,there's nothing left for us British anymore because the government are a joke[/p][/quote]Several Asian countries on course of becoming superpowers are now resorting to aggresively attract external investment and talented foreigners to settle and benefit from the accelerated pace of growth. Many have begun to look beyond their shores due to economic changes in thier own countries and reconsider their position whilst taking advantage of shifting of power from the West to the East, and to experience an extremely rich culture. Maybe now's the time for you and other's to review your stance as 'British', and rest assured any decision to migrate the outcome would not be regretable and of misfortune. Goodbye! sen c b l

6:47pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Good call says...

Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters. Good call

7:30pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Sajdin says...

Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years? Sajdin

7:43pm Tue 19 Mar 13

2 for 5p says...

Thethe reason the schools are struggling with place numbers is because the LEA have failed to build more schools to reflect the increase in population simple.
Thethe reason the schools are struggling with place numbers is because the LEA have failed to build more schools to reflect the increase in population simple. 2 for 5p

7:44pm Tue 19 Mar 13

sen c b l says...

Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
Sajdin, some members of all communities make the most of the benefit system.

Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years!!!???
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]Sajdin, some members of all communities make the most of the benefit system. Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years!!!??? sen c b l

7:57pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Noiticer says...

Strategic planning in the UK is a shambles whether it is power generation, road and rail infrastructure, drinking water, refinery capacity and school places. Just leave it to the market or think about it when it's too late seems to be the policy. Everything is short term, often botched and over budget.
Also we live in two political unions i.e. the UK and EU where there is free movement of people. People have moved to England from Ireland and Scotland vice versa for generations and not always amicably. Currently many are moving to the UK from other EU countries and tens of thousands of pensioners have moved to Spain, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus and France whilst many have moved to Germany and Scandinavia etc for career prospects. Given the choice in past years I think I would have liked to have lived elsewhere in the EU and I would speculate that the countries of central and eastern Europe will become increasingly attractive destinations for British citizens as their economies improve as the quality of life there will be a good deal better than in the UK.
Strategic planning in the UK is a shambles whether it is power generation, road and rail infrastructure, drinking water, refinery capacity and school places. Just leave it to the market or think about it when it's too late seems to be the policy. Everything is short term, often botched and over budget. Also we live in two political unions i.e. the UK and EU where there is free movement of people. People have moved to England from Ireland and Scotland vice versa for generations and not always amicably. Currently many are moving to the UK from other EU countries and tens of thousands of pensioners have moved to Spain, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus and France whilst many have moved to Germany and Scandinavia etc for career prospects. Given the choice in past years I think I would have liked to have lived elsewhere in the EU and I would speculate that the countries of central and eastern Europe will become increasingly attractive destinations for British citizens as their economies improve as the quality of life there will be a good deal better than in the UK. Noiticer

8:12pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Sajdin says...

sen c b l wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
Sajdin, some members of all communities make the most of the benefit system.

Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years!!!???
And at no point I said it was a specific community who rob the system.

I only directed, that it "seems" that the white community don't want to do the job the "foreigners" do. This assumption is my opinion, and at no point am I saying, my opinion is right !

End of day, people from all backgrounds are in some sort of sense, trashing this countries good spirit, and its got to stop !
[quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]Sajdin, some members of all communities make the most of the benefit system. Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years!!!???[/p][/quote]And at no point I said it was a specific community who rob the system. I only directed, that it "seems" that the white community don't want to do the job the "foreigners" do. This assumption is my opinion, and at no point am I saying, my opinion is right ! End of day, people from all backgrounds are in some sort of sense, trashing this countries good spirit, and its got to stop ! Sajdin

8:31pm Tue 19 Mar 13

sen c b l says...

Sajdin wrote:
sen c b l wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
Sajdin, some members of all communities make the most of the benefit system.

Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years!!!???
And at no point I said it was a specific community who rob the system.

I only directed, that it "seems" that the white community don't want to do the job the "foreigners" do. This assumption is my opinion, and at no point am I saying, my opinion is right !

End of day, people from all backgrounds are in some sort of sense, trashing this countries good spirit, and its got to stop !
You limited it down to 'white'! Unlike you Saj who thinks it 'seems', I'm certain the benefit system is being abused.

You don't want 'jack danials' reading this or he's going to trounce you and you'd be crying 'Sen HELP, HELP'!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sen c b l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]Sajdin, some members of all communities make the most of the benefit system. Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years!!!???[/p][/quote]And at no point I said it was a specific community who rob the system. I only directed, that it "seems" that the white community don't want to do the job the "foreigners" do. This assumption is my opinion, and at no point am I saying, my opinion is right ! End of day, people from all backgrounds are in some sort of sense, trashing this countries good spirit, and its got to stop ![/p][/quote]You limited it down to 'white'! Unlike you Saj who thinks it 'seems', I'm certain the benefit system is being abused. You don't want 'jack danials' reading this or he's going to trounce you and you'd be crying 'Sen HELP, HELP'!!! sen c b l

9:42pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Good call says...

Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
Because you implied that white people are lazy scroungers who don't want to work.Benefit fraud, it is only £1.2 billion, or 0.8% of the welfare budget, and the last five years have seen a rise in unemployment benefit claims because of the ongoing economic recession/depression
/economic collapse.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]Because you implied that white people are lazy scroungers who don't want to work.Benefit fraud, it is only £1.2 billion, or 0.8% of the welfare budget, and the last five years have seen a rise in unemployment benefit claims because of the ongoing economic recession/depression /economic collapse. Good call

11:02pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Sajdin says...

Sen Help Help !
Sen Help Help ! Sajdin

6:50am Wed 20 Mar 13

jack daniels says...

Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
Your comment about the British being work shy is racist. Therefore you are a racist, but I've been saying this fact for a while....
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]Your comment about the British being work shy is racist. Therefore you are a racist, but I've been saying this fact for a while.... jack daniels

6:56am Wed 20 Mar 13

jack daniels says...

Recent stories in the news have highlighted the influx of Asian, African and east European families to these shores. While nobody would wish to turn away any genuine asylum seeker, we can't very well house, educate and medicate everybody that comes here.
Recent stories in the news have highlighted the influx of Asian, African and east European families to these shores. While nobody would wish to turn away any genuine asylum seeker, we can't very well house, educate and medicate everybody that comes here. jack daniels

7:24am Wed 20 Mar 13

SWP supporter says...

mys wrote:
The reason why there's no places in schools is because all the bloody foreigners come here and take them,like all our jobs and nhs,there's nothing left for us British anymore because the government are a joke
The reason there are no places in schools is because the bloody Tories closed schools down
[quote][p][bold]mys[/bold] wrote: The reason why there's no places in schools is because all the bloody foreigners come here and take them,like all our jobs and nhs,there's nothing left for us British anymore because the government are a joke[/p][/quote]The reason there are no places in schools is because the bloody Tories closed schools down SWP supporter

7:28am Wed 20 Mar 13

SWP supporter says...

Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
This is exactly what the Tories want - different groups of workers blaming each other instead of them
The reason for the unemployment is AUSTERITY,
and the reason for austerity is the global financial crisis - the biggest economic crisis of world capitalism since the 30s
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]This is exactly what the Tories want - different groups of workers blaming each other instead of them The reason for the unemployment is AUSTERITY, and the reason for austerity is the global financial crisis - the biggest economic crisis of world capitalism since the 30s SWP supporter

7:33am Wed 20 Mar 13

SWP supporter says...

Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
Good call wrote:
Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.
Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?
Because you implied that white people are lazy scroungers who don't want to work.Benefit fraud, it is only £1.2 billion, or 0.8% of the welfare budget, and the last five years have seen a rise in unemployment benefit claims because of the ongoing economic recession/depression

/economic collapse.
Research at Oxford University shows that immigration has only a very small effect on wages
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The comment you have just made is both racist and a load of crap.The economy is collapsing, and it doesn't matter about the odd one or two people playing the system.Sajdin, what will you be doing when your bank account has been looted by the banksters.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me on I how was racist. Odd one or two people playing the system? Have you been hiding under a rock for the past 5 years?[/p][/quote]Because you implied that white people are lazy scroungers who don't want to work.Benefit fraud, it is only £1.2 billion, or 0.8% of the welfare budget, and the last five years have seen a rise in unemployment benefit claims because of the ongoing economic recession/depression /economic collapse.[/p][/quote]Research at Oxford University shows that immigration has only a very small effect on wages SWP supporter

12:21pm Wed 20 Mar 13

berniep says...

Sajdin wrote:
mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!!
The notion that foreigners do the jobs that white people wont is a myth,foreign workers were brought here to do those job,s because the male British population at that time were battle weary & injured during the war to the extent that they were unable to do manual labor
Add to that the shortage of men of working age as a result of the war & you have the reason why foreign workers were brought over.
As for the schools i think they should narrow it down a bit & tell us how many children of non British & mixed nationality are taking up places in
schools.
I know Sir John Thursby school in Burnley is 90+% Asian children.
[quote][p][bold]Sajdin[/bold] wrote: mys, if the white people of this country wanted to have jobs then you would have them. The "bloody foreigners" do the jobs you white people do not want to do, its as simple as that !!!![/p][/quote]The notion that foreigners do the jobs that white people wont is a myth,foreign workers were brought here to do those job,s because the male British population at that time were battle weary & injured during the war to the extent that they were unable to do manual labor Add to that the shortage of men of working age as a result of the war & you have the reason why foreign workers were brought over. As for the schools i think they should narrow it down a bit & tell us how many children of non British & mixed nationality are taking up places in schools. I know Sir John Thursby school in Burnley is 90+% Asian children. berniep

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