'Anger shared by everyone over horsemeat' say Lancashire council chiefs (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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'Anger shared by everyone over horsemeat' say Lancashire council chiefs
1:32pm Wednesday 27th February 2013 in News
By Chris Gee, Reporter
COUNCIL chiefs said they “share the anger of Muslim parents” after horse meat was found in halal meat supplied for school meals.
But the Lancashire Council of Mosques has called for an immediate boycott of all school meals provided by Lancashire County Council.
Following the second such incident this month, the county council dropped processed beef products from all school menus on Monday after horse DNA was found in burgers supplied to four unnamed secondary schools in the county.
The revelation came shortly after horse meat was found in school meal cottage pies analysed at the council’s laboratories.
A council spokesman said that the four schools affected had been told immediately and that parents were being informed.
Chairman of the Lancashire Council of Mosques, Blackburn councillor Salim Mulla said he was angry that the county council had not named the schools.
He said: “The responsibility for this distressing and unacceptable situation lies solely with the LCC. It is our view that the LCC have critically undermined the faith that thousands of Muslim families have in the food that is served in schools across Lancashire.”
Defending their actions, Geoff Driver, leader of Lancashire County Council, said: "I share the anger of Muslim parents; we all have a right to trust that the food we eat is what we believe it to be.
"However this issue goes beyond the supply of halal meat and affects the processed food industry as a whole.
“We have strict procurement rules in place that insist on food quality and safety and in the matter of halal accreditation we are guided by the Food Standards Agency, which consults with Muslim bodies nationally.
“There is absolutely nothing at all to suggest that had we followed the Lancashire Council of Mosques' demands this could have been avoided.
“We were forced to change halal food suppliers last year precisely because the supplier we previously used, which was insisted upon by the LCM, failed to provide adequate assurances about the source and shelf life of its products. The council said that a range of different halal chicken dishes remain on the menu as well as non-meat options.
A council spokesman said they would not be disclosing the identity of the meat supplier involved as they believed they were also the victims of food mis-labelling or fraud earlier in the supply chain.
The county’s analysis of the affected samples has been passed on to the Food Standards Agency who said they were also not naming suppliers.
Comments(21)
mavrick
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3:00pm Wed 27 Feb 13
vicn1956
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3:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13
PARENTS ANGRY ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN BEING MADE TO EAT HALAL MEAT WITHOUT BEING TOLD!
vicn1956
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3:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13
sbury etc etc etc and people not being told?
Sham
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5:27pm Wed 27 Feb 13
iasiah fartwell
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5:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Wedding Horses
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5:43pm Wed 27 Feb 13
sen c b l
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6:35pm Wed 27 Feb 13
mavrick wrote:Meat declared as Halal was supplied by an arrangement between LCC and their suppliers, and not from a supplier nominated by LCM. This was a binding contract between these two parties and any action taken by LCM would be to approach LCC. LCM did not approve the authenticity of the halal recognition, well before the horse scandal came into the attention of the main, and were notifying parents to boycott school meals.
How can cllr Mulla persist in blaming LCC? Why has he not spoken to the halal supplier? Eating non halal meat including bacon and pork never hurt anyone, Perhaps LCC should refuse to deal with meat suppliers who do not stun animals prior to slaughter. Anybody who has ever witnessed ritual slaughter will be sickened by it. So I await cllr Mulla's response.
Your comment in relation to the rituals of halal slaughter, is purely on what you see and the manner in which the animal will respond to the first cut. Scientific research has proved that the main artery leading from the brain will drain rapidly causing minimise pain to the animal. Likewise animals which are stunned the neck and legs will contract into spasms and excessive kicking, lasting up to 10 seconds If spasms last longer than this time the animal may be poorly stunned, and some animals have died as a result.
In both these procedure of slaughter spasms will be evident but to reflect on certain slaughter as inhumane to the other is purely fictional.
ste.g
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7:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13
do they also share my anger at finding it in my lasagnes?
sen c b l
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7:46pm Wed 27 Feb 13
Blackburn EDL wrote:Complete gibberish.
No halal produce should be fed to our indigenous children. Halal meat is governed by sharia law. Halal meat is a trojan horse for the implementation of sharia law in England. All non muslims must reject halal meat and boycott all halal products and outlets.
Mr Mulla and stop trying to corner the meat trade and promoting backward evil sharia law.
BOYCOTT HALAL
rovers-baz
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9:36pm Wed 27 Feb 13
rilistic
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9:37pm Wed 27 Feb 13
1 that halal food is only served to Muslim children - non Muslim children get non halal food
2 they will only supply halal meat from animals that were stunned before they were slaughtered
Over to you Mr Mulla!
jack daniels
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9:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13
You could almost think that the LCM doesn't trust our councils to resolve this problem. Maybe they should concentrate on the more important issues plighting the Asian/muslim community.
jack daniels
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7:27am Thu 28 Feb 13
Blackburn EDL wrote:Sit idle?
Kathryn Hartley PLEASE COULD SOMEONE COPY THIS TO THE L.T WEBSITE FOR ME, THANK YOU! Unfortunately, it seems that I am blocked from leaving comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website, as previously, my comments have been taken down almost immediately. The issue here is, they are in fear that my words will make people think for themselves, instead of carrying on like sheep, accepting the unnecessary, like 'multiculturalism' to halal food. Now then, muslim parents are ANGERED about the horsemeat 'scandal' - how the hell to they think we feel that our CHRISTIAN children have to be subjected to halal food in schools??? If halal mean was not allowed - we would not find ourselves in this predicament. You may not think that this is a bad thing...well, let me say this for you that dont know...halal meat is part of sharia law, and if you find beheading, stoning to death, the chopping off of hands and feet...sit idle and do nothing. Dont say I didnt warn you...
You waffle on about halal meat while the taulheedal school/mosque/advice monster grows ever bigger. A nice little school and mosque with links to the restrictive wahabi governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia that is spreading it's strict religious principles. A far more notable concern for you, me and many western Muslims
sen c b l
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11:47am Thu 28 Feb 13
jack daniels wrote:CORRECTION.
Blackburn EDL wrote:Sit idle?
Kathryn Hartley PLEASE COULD SOMEONE COPY THIS TO THE L.T WEBSITE FOR ME, THANK YOU! Unfortunately, it seems that I am blocked from leaving comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website, as previously, my comments have been taken down almost immediately. The issue here is, they are in fear that my words will make people think for themselves, instead of carrying on like sheep, accepting the unnecessary, like 'multiculturalism' to halal food. Now then, muslim parents are ANGERED about the horsemeat 'scandal' - how the hell to they think we feel that our CHRISTIAN children have to be subjected to halal food in schools??? If halal mean was not allowed - we would not find ourselves in this predicament. You may not think that this is a bad thing...well, let me say this for you that dont know...halal meat is part of sharia law, and if you find beheading, stoning to death, the chopping off of hands and feet...sit idle and do nothing. Dont say I didnt warn you...
You waffle on about halal meat while the taulheedal school/mosque/advice monster grows ever bigger. A nice little school and mosque with links to the restrictive wahabi governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia that is spreading it's strict religious principles. A far more notable concern for you, me and many western Muslims
Not wahhabi, but Hanbali.
jack daniels
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2:54pm Thu 28 Feb 13
sen c b l wrote:Indeed you are correct Mr S.
jack daniels wrote:CORRECTION. Not wahhabi, but Hanbali.Blackburn EDL wrote: Kathryn Hartley PLEASE COULD SOMEONE COPY THIS TO THE L.T WEBSITE FOR ME, THANK YOU! Unfortunately, it seems that I am blocked from leaving comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website, as previously, my comments have been taken down almost immediately. The issue here is, they are in fear that my words will make people think for themselves, instead of carrying on like sheep, accepting the unnecessary, like 'multiculturalism' to halal food. Now then, muslim parents are ANGERED about the horsemeat 'scandal' - how the hell to they think we feel that our CHRISTIAN children have to be subjected to halal food in schools??? If halal mean was not allowed - we would not find ourselves in this predicament. You may not think that this is a bad thing...well, let me say this for you that dont know...halal meat is part of sharia law, and if you find beheading, stoning to death, the chopping off of hands and feet...sit idle and do nothing. Dont say I didnt warn you...Sit idle? You waffle on about halal meat while the taulheedal school/mosque/advice monster grows ever bigger. A nice little school and mosque with links to the restrictive wahabi governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia that is spreading it's strict religious principles. A far more notable concern for you, me and many western Muslims
But am I correct in thinking that they are very very similar in their views of how the laws of islam should strictly adhered too and that the 'inventor' of Wahhabism (and a follower of Hanbali) supported the saudi royal family to the throne?
Of course, this is your expert area and I bow to your better judgement on these 'finer details'.
sen c b l
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7:55pm Thu 28 Feb 13
dagsballicks wrote:LCM represent all the Lancashire mosques, who represent the muslim community. One voice! OK.
sen c b l wrote:So, along with the LCM telling people what they should do or not do. Who are you (The EDL), to tell me what I should or should not boycott. Are you sure you are not Salim Mulla, extracting the urine?
Blackburn EDL wrote:Complete gibberish.
No halal produce should be fed to our indigenous children. Halal meat is governed by sharia law. Halal meat is a trojan horse for the implementation of sharia law in England. All non muslims must reject halal meat and boycott all halal products and outlets.
Mr Mulla and stop trying to corner the meat trade and promoting backward evil sharia law.
BOYCOTT HALAL
rilistic
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8:12pm Thu 28 Feb 13
sen c b l
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8:14pm Thu 28 Feb 13
jack daniels wrote:Your knowledge is just as good as mine but unlike you I do not refer to wikipedia where you will find some information to be incorrect.
sen c b l wrote:Indeed you are correct Mr S.
jack daniels wrote:CORRECTION. Not wahhabi, but Hanbali.Blackburn EDL wrote: Kathryn Hartley PLEASE COULD SOMEONE COPY THIS TO THE L.T WEBSITE FOR ME, THANK YOU! Unfortunately, it seems that I am blocked from leaving comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website, as previously, my comments have been taken down almost immediately. The issue here is, they are in fear that my words will make people think for themselves, instead of carrying on like sheep, accepting the unnecessary, like 'multiculturalism' to halal food. Now then, muslim parents are ANGERED about the horsemeat 'scandal' - how the hell to they think we feel that our CHRISTIAN children have to be subjected to halal food in schools??? If halal mean was not allowed - we would not find ourselves in this predicament. You may not think that this is a bad thing...well, let me say this for you that dont know...halal meat is part of sharia law, and if you find beheading, stoning to death, the chopping off of hands and feet...sit idle and do nothing. Dont say I didnt warn you...Sit idle? You waffle on about halal meat while the taulheedal school/mosque/advice monster grows ever bigger. A nice little school and mosque with links to the restrictive wahabi governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia that is spreading it's strict religious principles. A far more notable concern for you, me and many western Muslims
But am I correct in thinking that they are very very similar in their views of how the laws of islam should strictly adhered too and that the 'inventor' of Wahhabism (and a follower of Hanbali) supported the saudi royal family to the throne?
Of course, this is your expert area and I bow to your better judgement on these 'finer details'.
Regardless where we obtain our data the less we talk B4ll5, I would expect the winner.
This is a two horse race between you and I, and the loser to end up as equine kebabs.
jack daniels
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9:10am Fri 1 Mar 13
sen c b l wrote:it didn't take you long to start with the potty mouth did it? I try to offer you a olive branch and show some manners, yet you quickly show yourself up as like you normally do.
jack daniels wrote:Your knowledge is just as good as mine but unlike you I do not refer to wikipedia where you will find some information to be incorrect. Regardless where we obtain our data the less we talk B4ll5, I would expect the winner. This is a two horse race between you and I, and the loser to end up as equine kebabs.sen c b l wrote:Indeed you are correct Mr S. But am I correct in thinking that they are very very similar in their views of how the laws of islam should strictly adhered too and that the 'inventor' of Wahhabism (and a follower of Hanbali) supported the saudi royal family to the throne? Of course, this is your expert area and I bow to your better judgement on these 'finer details'.jack daniels wrote:CORRECTION. Not wahhabi, but Hanbali.Blackburn EDL wrote: Kathryn Hartley PLEASE COULD SOMEONE COPY THIS TO THE L.T WEBSITE FOR ME, THANK YOU! Unfortunately, it seems that I am blocked from leaving comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website, as previously, my comments have been taken down almost immediately. The issue here is, they are in fear that my words will make people think for themselves, instead of carrying on like sheep, accepting the unnecessary, like 'multiculturalism' to halal food. Now then, muslim parents are ANGERED about the horsemeat 'scandal' - how the hell to they think we feel that our CHRISTIAN children have to be subjected to halal food in schools??? If halal mean was not allowed - we would not find ourselves in this predicament. You may not think that this is a bad thing...well, let me say this for you that dont know...halal meat is part of sharia law, and if you find beheading, stoning to death, the chopping off of hands and feet...sit idle and do nothing. Dont say I didnt warn you...Sit idle? You waffle on about halal meat while the taulheedal school/mosque/advice monster grows ever bigger. A nice little school and mosque with links to the restrictive wahabi governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia that is spreading it's strict religious principles. A far more notable concern for you, me and many western Muslims
Anyway..
So enlighten me as to which parts of the wikipedia articles are wrong and which ones have they got correct?
Shouldn't be to difficult for you should it?
sen c b l
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6:30pm Fri 1 Mar 13
jack daniels wrote:Since when have you become a saint?
sen c b l wrote:it didn't take you long to start with the potty mouth did it? I try to offer you a olive branch and show some manners, yet you quickly show yourself up as like you normally do.
jack daniels wrote:Your knowledge is just as good as mine but unlike you I do not refer to wikipedia where you will find some information to be incorrect. Regardless where we obtain our data the less we talk B4ll5, I would expect the winner. This is a two horse race between you and I, and the loser to end up as equine kebabs.sen c b l wrote:Indeed you are correct Mr S. But am I correct in thinking that they are very very similar in their views of how the laws of islam should strictly adhered too and that the 'inventor' of Wahhabism (and a follower of Hanbali) supported the saudi royal family to the throne? Of course, this is your expert area and I bow to your better judgement on these 'finer details'.jack daniels wrote:CORRECTION. Not wahhabi, but Hanbali.Blackburn EDL wrote: Kathryn Hartley PLEASE COULD SOMEONE COPY THIS TO THE L.T WEBSITE FOR ME, THANK YOU! Unfortunately, it seems that I am blocked from leaving comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website, as previously, my comments have been taken down almost immediately. The issue here is, they are in fear that my words will make people think for themselves, instead of carrying on like sheep, accepting the unnecessary, like 'multiculturalism' to halal food. Now then, muslim parents are ANGERED about the horsemeat 'scandal' - how the hell to they think we feel that our CHRISTIAN children have to be subjected to halal food in schools??? If halal mean was not allowed - we would not find ourselves in this predicament. You may not think that this is a bad thing...well, let me say this for you that dont know...halal meat is part of sharia law, and if you find beheading, stoning to death, the chopping off of hands and feet...sit idle and do nothing. Dont say I didnt warn you...Sit idle? You waffle on about halal meat while the taulheedal school/mosque/advice monster grows ever bigger. A nice little school and mosque with links to the restrictive wahabi governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia that is spreading it's strict religious principles. A far more notable concern for you, me and many western Muslims
Anyway..
So enlighten me as to which parts of the wikipedia articles are wrong and which ones have they got correct?
Shouldn't be to difficult for you should it?
After showing me 'some' manners!!!
sen c b l says...
2:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13