Father of murdered Pendle nurse says he would not support introduction of Sharia law

Lancashire Telegraph: John Clough and (inset) daughter Jane John Clough and (inset) daughter Jane

A FATHER who campaigned for a change in the justice system in the wake of his daughter’s murder has said he does not support the introduction of sharia law in the UK.

John and Penny Clough’s daughter Jane, who was 26 at the time, was murdered by her ex-partner, Jonathan Vass on 2010.

Last week, Mr Clough, from Higherford, was asked to give his views on sharia law as part of Channel 4’s 4Thought series which examined the subject from five different viewpoints.

In the two-minute slot he talked about aspects of sharia law where in cases of pre-meditated murder, the judge does not pass the sentence and the victim’s family have far more input into the punishment and retribution meted out to the criminal.

Vass was handed a 30 year-sentence for murder after he was released on bail having been charged with rape and assault offences against her.

Mr Clough said: “I do not support the introduction of sharia law in the UK, indeed there are many aspects of it that are repugnant.

“What I have said is that there are aspects of it that could be discussed and considered as an additional victim protection within UK law, a bit like cherry picking some aspects.

“During the recording of the programme I stated several time that I do not or did not support sharia, as my wife will back me up.

“I am not ashamed to want retribution as the current justice system is a farce and my family was treated terribly by it.

“Penny and I want the UK justice system to be as robust as it can be, and if that involves looking around the world at other systems of law and learning from them I welcome that.”

Last year, the Government amended the law on bail to allow prosecutors to challenge judges' bail decisions in the Court of Appeal.

The amendment was dubbed “Jane's Law”.

Mr Clough said he and his wife would continue fighting on other issues such as holding judges accountable for the decisions they make and getting domestic abuse risk assessments to be read in open court.

He said: “Judges are so protected. They hold us accountable for the decisions we make in life but they are not accountable themselves. It should be open and transparent.

“Every police force does risk assessments on the danger to victims of domestic violence, honour crime and stalking.

“We know Jane was at the upper end of this scale but it couldn’t be heard in open court and made available to prosecutors.”

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8:51pm Sat 26 Jan 13

glossopkid says...

it seems not just the judges are protected but police too!
it seems not just the judges are protected but police too! glossopkid

9:18am Sun 27 Jan 13

ste.g says...

well said mr clough.

its high time judges and the like where held responsible for their short comings.
the press could learn a few things to.

i wish you and your family well.
well said mr clough. its high time judges and the like where held responsible for their short comings. the press could learn a few things to. i wish you and your family well. ste.g

9:32am Sun 27 Jan 13

coates warder says...

why are we contemplating sharia law for.its a law 10,000 miles away not here in britain. if people cant stick to our laws from other countries then pack your bags and go home.its simple if you commit murder you go to jail for life.that means forever until you come out of jail in a wooden overcoat.i get sick to death of people who come to this great country and try and change it.why do they come.mainly because their country is so bad.so leave our great country alone.
why are we contemplating sharia law for.its a law 10,000 miles away not here in britain. if people cant stick to our laws from other countries then pack your bags and go home.its simple if you commit murder you go to jail for life.that means forever until you come out of jail in a wooden overcoat.i get sick to death of people who come to this great country and try and change it.why do they come.mainly because their country is so bad.so leave our great country alone. coates warder

9:46am Sun 27 Jan 13

mavrick says...

British law does as little as possible to support the victim. I hope Mr Clough does get some closure. The whole judicial system needs updating, Why does it have to be so costly? Why are judges allowed to hide behind the system? Ordinary people can not afford justice in Britain.
British law does as little as possible to support the victim. I hope Mr Clough does get some closure. The whole judicial system needs updating, Why does it have to be so costly? Why are judges allowed to hide behind the system? Ordinary people can not afford justice in Britain. mavrick

4:50pm Sun 27 Jan 13

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 says...

But do we scrap the innocent till proven guilty,law??
But do we scrap the innocent till proven guilty,law?? ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123

8:07pm Sun 27 Jan 13

It's Moops says...

coates warder wrote:
why are we contemplating sharia law for.its a law 10,000 miles away not here in britain. if people cant stick to our laws from other countries then pack your bags and go home.its simple if you commit murder you go to jail for life.that means forever until you come out of jail in a wooden overcoat.i get sick to death of people who come to this great country and try and change it.why do they come.mainly because their country is so bad.so leave our great country alone.
Did you actually read the article?

This is just a follow up article to one that was published last week or so where the :LET "Chief Reporter" thought he was writing for the old NOTW and tried to sex up a story by writing Mr Clough "supported" Sharia Law.
[quote][p][bold]coates warder[/bold] wrote: why are we contemplating sharia law for.its a law 10,000 miles away not here in britain. if people cant stick to our laws from other countries then pack your bags and go home.its simple if you commit murder you go to jail for life.that means forever until you come out of jail in a wooden overcoat.i get sick to death of people who come to this great country and try and change it.why do they come.mainly because their country is so bad.so leave our great country alone.[/p][/quote]Did you actually read the article? This is just a follow up article to one that was published last week or so where the :LET "Chief Reporter" thought he was writing for the old NOTW and tried to sex up a story by writing Mr Clough "supported" Sharia Law. It's Moops

9:00pm Sun 27 Jan 13

cookyy2k says...

Yeah, lets let the victims decide the punishment. Turn the entire justice system into a game of petty revenge.

Also in what way do you thing judges should be accountable? If someone commits a crime while on bail should the judge be held accountable? because that would be unworkable, no judge would ever give bail then both innocent and low risk suspects end up sitting in a cell til trial.

the system we have now isn't perfect, no system is. But I'd rather have this than judges being too afraid to use their judgement and the courts being used for petty revenge by people with a ace to grind.
Yeah, lets let the victims decide the punishment. Turn the entire justice system into a game of petty revenge. Also in what way do you thing judges should be accountable? If someone commits a crime while on bail should the judge be held accountable? because that would be unworkable, no judge would ever give bail then both innocent and low risk suspects end up sitting in a cell til trial. the system we have now isn't perfect, no system is. But I'd rather have this than judges being too afraid to use their judgement and the courts being used for petty revenge by people with a ace to grind. cookyy2k

9:21am Mon 28 Jan 13

midas says...

mavrick wrote:
British law does as little as possible to support the victim. I hope Mr Clough does get some closure. The whole judicial system needs updating, Why does it have to be so costly? Why are judges allowed to hide behind the system? Ordinary people can not afford justice in Britain.
The law isn't there to support the victim, that has never been the purpose, the law should be neutral supporting neither the prosecution nor the defence.
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How is it costly? Are lawyers working in the criminal system paid too much? How do Judges hide behind "the system"? If your liberty is at risk then "ordinary people" get represented for free, its costly, but a cost worth paying!

Input from the victims family is revenge not retribution.
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How does input from the victims family have any impact on victims protection?
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How is it the Judges fault if information isn't given to the prosecution and therefore not passed onto him?
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[quote][p][bold]mavrick[/bold] wrote: British law does as little as possible to support the victim. I hope Mr Clough does get some closure. The whole judicial system needs updating, Why does it have to be so costly? Why are judges allowed to hide behind the system? Ordinary people can not afford justice in Britain.[/p][/quote]The law isn't there to support the victim, that has never been the purpose, the law should be neutral supporting neither the prosecution nor the defence. . How is it costly? Are lawyers working in the criminal system paid too much? How do Judges hide behind "the system"? If your liberty is at risk then "ordinary people" get represented for free, its costly, but a cost worth paying! Input from the victims family is revenge not retribution. . How does input from the victims family have any impact on victims protection? . How is it the Judges fault if information isn't given to the prosecution and therefore not passed onto him? . midas

10:58am Mon 28 Jan 13

LWebber says...

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 wrote:
But do we scrap the innocent till proven guilty,law??
I hope you aren't suggesting Vass may not have committed those crimes of which he has not been on trial for.
[quote][p][bold]ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123[/bold] wrote: But do we scrap the innocent till proven guilty,law??[/p][/quote]I hope you aren't suggesting Vass may not have committed those crimes of which he has not been on trial for. LWebber

12:05pm Mon 28 Jan 13

ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 says...

LWebber wrote:
ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123 wrote:
But do we scrap the innocent till proven guilty,law??
I hope you aren't suggesting Vass may not have committed those crimes of which he has not been on trial for.
not at all,im just asking do we scrap the laws of the land ??and do we just lock up everybody till proven guilty of an offence??
[quote][p][bold]LWebber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123[/bold] wrote: But do we scrap the innocent till proven guilty,law??[/p][/quote]I hope you aren't suggesting Vass may not have committed those crimes of which he has not been on trial for.[/p][/quote]not at all,im just asking do we scrap the laws of the land ??and do we just lock up everybody till proven guilty of an offence?? ROBERTSLUMDWELLER123

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