Murderer writes poem about killing of Rossendale man

2:00pm Friday 18th January 2013 in News

Karen Otmani Karen Otmani

A FEMALE murderer who killed a former East Lancashire man — then dumped him in a wheelie bin — has written an astonishing poem detailing his final hours.

Karen Otmani is currently serving a life sentence for killing 42-year- old Shaun Corey, who was originally from Bacup.

But from her cell at HMP Holloway she has penned an 11-verse poem — entitled A Shattered Life — detailing her fate.

Otmani, also 42, killed Mr Corey and left him in a wheelie bin at the south London home for 11 days, before his body was uncovered by police.

And jurors at the Old Bailey trial heard how she asked another boyfriend whether she could poison him with anti-freeze.

In the piece, published in prisoners’ magazine Inside Time, she describes first meeting Nr Corey, after a ‘tough’ upbringing.

The poem goes on to say they had ‘Lots of late nights and a whole lotta fun’.

But Otmani claims that their relationship soon turned sour, with her accusing him of being ‘controlling’.

The next verse reads: ‘Why am I suddenly feeling this way There’s nothing left to say, I’m going away I have to get out of it, set myself free Before he does a whole lot of damage to me’ She then describes the wait until the police discover Mr Corey’s body and her eventual conviction.

But she signs of by writing: ‘I’ll never have another love, as long as I shall live My dreams have all been shattered, I’ve nothing left to give’ The mother-of-two had previously told police investigating the murder: ‘He freaked me out and I killed him.’

A SHATTERED LIFE by Karen Otmani

My life’s been hard, my life’s been tough

Going out drinking and sometimes sleeping rough

I decided to pack it all in one day

And live my life in a different way

I stopped hanging out with the usual mob

And got myself a part-time job

Onwards and upwards, that’s what I said

Build up some money and get out of the red

Now I’ve met a new guy, I think he’s the one

Lots of late nights and a whole lotta fun

I’m getting too lazy now, I’m never out of bed

Have to slow it down a bit or I’m gonna end up dead

I seem to commit, then it all goes wrong

Put under pressure, I’m just tagging along

He just didn’t like it, when I said no

He’d sink a dozen beers and have a proper go

He’s trying to take control of me

Plucking everything out of my head

All my beliefs, ideas and realities

And replace them with his instead

Why am I suddenly feeling this way

There’s nothing left to say, I’m going away

I have to get out of it, set myself free

Before he does a whole lot of damage to me

My mind and body are ever so tired

I feel unloved, battered and bruised

Nothing worse could happen right now

For I’ve nothing left to lose

I really couldn’t have given him

Anymore than I did

But now he’s in a casket

And they’ve screwed down the lid

A knock on the door and that was it

Cops piecing it together, bit by bit

The officers they watch me, around the clock

One minute I’m okay, the next minute I’m not

Will I wake to live another day

Will the courts allow me to have my say

I’ll never have another love, as long as I shall live

My dreams have all been shattered, I’ve nothing left to give

Comments (13)

3:35pm Fri 18 Jan 13

noddy57 says...

l would not publish such drivel,from a convicted murderer, whats she after, sick publicity ? let her rot in jail and throw away the key,,
l would not publish such drivel,from a convicted murderer, whats she after, sick publicity ? let her rot in jail and throw away the key,, noddy57

5:05pm Fri 18 Jan 13

woolywords says...

When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way.
It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but..
It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it?
It doesn't beg for forgiveness?
Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all.
It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man.
A sadness, for times loved and lost.

If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations.

Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some.
No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday?
I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day.

Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her.

No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine.
It's only words..
When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way. It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but.. It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it? It doesn't beg for forgiveness? Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all. It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man. A sadness, for times loved and lost. If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations. Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some. No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday? I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day. Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her. No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine. It's only words.. woolywords

5:07pm Fri 18 Jan 13

her from here says...

This should not have been published how must his family feel, Shame on The Telegraph for printing such disgusting rubbish.
This should not have been published how must his family feel, Shame on The Telegraph for printing such disgusting rubbish. her from here

7:13pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Marla Singer says...

At no point does this poem detail the victim's last hours. It just gives an insight into how she felt in the time leading up to her carrying out the crime - the couple of sentences on the home page make no sense whatsoever!

Another example of LT sensationalising their own stories to suck you in, then none of that having any alignment with the actual story.
At no point does this poem detail the victim's last hours. It just gives an insight into how she felt in the time leading up to her carrying out the crime - the couple of sentences on the home page make no sense whatsoever! Another example of LT sensationalising their own stories to suck you in, then none of that having any alignment with the actual story. Marla Singer

9:52pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Jerzei Balowski says...

woolywords wrote:
When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way.
It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but..
It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it?
It doesn't beg for forgiveness?
Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all.
It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man.
A sadness, for times loved and lost.

If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations.

Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some.
No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday?
I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day.

Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her.

No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine.
It's only words..
As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.
[quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way. It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but.. It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it? It doesn't beg for forgiveness? Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all. It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man. A sadness, for times loved and lost. If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations. Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some. No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday? I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day. Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her. No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine. It's only words..[/p][/quote]As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath. Jerzei Balowski

10:51pm Fri 18 Jan 13

barryinthailand says...

Jerzei Balowski wrote:
woolywords wrote:
When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way.
It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but..
It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it?
It doesn't beg for forgiveness?
Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all.
It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man.
A sadness, for times loved and lost.

If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations.

Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some.
No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday?
I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day.

Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her.

No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine.
It's only words..
As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.
Im not sure because the way you read it makes sense, but I think she asked the other boyfriend if she could poison this one with anti-freeze.

As for the Telegraph publishing it I dont see any problem.
[quote][p][bold]Jerzei Balowski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way. It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but.. It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it? It doesn't beg for forgiveness? Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all. It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man. A sadness, for times loved and lost. If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations. Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some. No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday? I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day. Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her. No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine. It's only words..[/p][/quote]As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.[/p][/quote]Im not sure because the way you read it makes sense, but I think she asked the other boyfriend if she could poison this one with anti-freeze. As for the Telegraph publishing it I dont see any problem. barryinthailand

12:14am Sat 19 Jan 13

8 Ball Deluxe says...

Rot in hell you sick twisted waste of oxygen and taxpayers money
Rot in hell you sick twisted waste of oxygen and taxpayers money 8 Ball Deluxe

12:59am Sat 19 Jan 13

George.White.Bread says...

L.E.T you are a total and utter disgrace to journalism. Giving a convicted murderer sensational publicity for what purpose?

Would you have published such a poem if it had been written by Jonathan Vass ? Of course you wouldn't, so why publish this ?

Did you even consider the feelings of the victims family?
L.E.T you are a total and utter disgrace to journalism. Giving a convicted murderer sensational publicity for what purpose? Would you have published such a poem if it had been written by Jonathan Vass ? Of course you wouldn't, so why publish this ? Did you even consider the feelings of the victims family? George.White.Bread

1:04am Sat 19 Jan 13

George.White.Bread says...

barryinthailand wrote:
Jerzei Balowski wrote:
woolywords wrote:
When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way.
It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but..
It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it?
It doesn't beg for forgiveness?
Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all.
It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man.
A sadness, for times loved and lost.

If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations.

Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some.
No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday?
I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day.

Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her.

No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine.
It's only words..
As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.
Im not sure because the way you read it makes sense, but I think she asked the other boyfriend if she could poison this one with anti-freeze.

As for the Telegraph publishing it I dont see any problem.
So you don't see a problem with a newspaper giving publicity to a poem written by a convicted murderer? Do you think the victims family will be over joyed that the person that murdered their lived one is having a poem published and therefore giving her a platform to perform on?

If you can't see what's wrong with it then you are without question an idiot sir.
[quote][p][bold]barryinthailand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerzei Balowski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way. It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but.. It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it? It doesn't beg for forgiveness? Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all. It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man. A sadness, for times loved and lost. If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations. Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some. No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday? I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day. Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her. No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine. It's only words..[/p][/quote]As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.[/p][/quote]Im not sure because the way you read it makes sense, but I think she asked the other boyfriend if she could poison this one with anti-freeze. As for the Telegraph publishing it I dont see any problem.[/p][/quote]So you don't see a problem with a newspaper giving publicity to a poem written by a convicted murderer? Do you think the victims family will be over joyed that the person that murdered their lived one is having a poem published and therefore giving her a platform to perform on? If you can't see what's wrong with it then you are without question an idiot sir. George.White.Bread

8:00am Sat 19 Jan 13

mys says...

George.White.Bread wrote:
L.E.T you are a total and utter disgrace to journalism. Giving a convicted murderer sensational publicity for what purpose?

Would you have published such a poem if it had been written by Jonathan Vass ? Of course you wouldn't, so why publish this ?

Did you even consider the feelings of the victims family?
Totally agree, what a disgrace LET, she cold blooded murderd the man for god sake she deserves to rot in hell,what does she want ? Sympathy of the public eh, we'll sorry she ain't gunna get it , she's sat there in prison trying to justify herself for murder,writing a pathetic poem to make it look like she's innocent,for gods sake LET are you that desperate for a story line of a murderer, what about the feeling of this guys poor family and what he went through, it's no wonder this newspaper a load of crap and doesn't sell much anymore.
[quote][p][bold]George.White.Bread[/bold] wrote: L.E.T you are a total and utter disgrace to journalism. Giving a convicted murderer sensational publicity for what purpose? Would you have published such a poem if it had been written by Jonathan Vass ? Of course you wouldn't, so why publish this ? Did you even consider the feelings of the victims family?[/p][/quote]Totally agree, what a disgrace LET, she cold blooded murderd the man for god sake she deserves to rot in hell,what does she want ? Sympathy of the public eh, we'll sorry she ain't gunna get it , she's sat there in prison trying to justify herself for murder,writing a pathetic poem to make it look like she's innocent,for gods sake LET are you that desperate for a story line of a murderer, what about the feeling of this guys poor family and what he went through, it's no wonder this newspaper a load of crap and doesn't sell much anymore. mys

9:57am Sat 19 Jan 13

InterpolNYC says...

Shame on the LET for giving this sicko a platform. Is there really nothing better to write about?
Shame on the LET for giving this sicko a platform. Is there really nothing better to write about? InterpolNYC

2:49pm Sat 19 Jan 13

barryinthailand says...

George.White.Bread wrote:
barryinthailand wrote:
Jerzei Balowski wrote:
woolywords wrote:
When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way.
It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but..
It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it?
It doesn't beg for forgiveness?
Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all.
It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man.
A sadness, for times loved and lost.

If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations.

Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some.
No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday?
I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day.

Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her.

No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine.
It's only words..
As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.
Im not sure because the way you read it makes sense, but I think she asked the other boyfriend if she could poison this one with anti-freeze.

As for the Telegraph publishing it I dont see any problem.
So you don't see a problem with a newspaper giving publicity to a poem written by a convicted murderer? Do you think the victims family will be over joyed that the person that murdered their lived one is having a poem published and therefore giving her a platform to perform on?

If you can't see what's wrong with it then you are without question an idiot sir.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it, just as others are welcome to have an opinion. The job of a newspaper is to report things, an example of which might be Shebby's lies which seem to occur most times he opens his mouth, do you stop reporting what he says because people dont agree with it?
If you dont want to read it dont read it..
[quote][p][bold]George.White.Bread[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]barryinthailand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jerzei Balowski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolywords[/bold] wrote: When she penned this, am sure that others convinced her to have it submitted for publication, as it exposes her innermost thoughts, penned in an earnest way. It is raw, unpolished and not desirous of sympathy from anyone. As a piece of work, it stands, as it does, worthy of critique, in it's own right. That LT choses to publish it here, shows a certain degree of insensitivity to the family, friends and others of the victim involved. Designed, I suppose, to attract negative commentary but.. It doesn't seek sympathy for the wrong done, does it? It doesn't beg for forgiveness? Or even, for understanding, unless you are prepared to read it two or three times, to get to the nub of it all. It contains no rancour but espouses a love, that was misplaced in that man. A sadness, for times loved and lost. If this were France, which I freely admit it's not, it recounts a crime passionnel, with all of it's connotations. Prison used to be called penitentiaries, where people could think about the crime that they had done. Does this not stand, on that merit, where you think about what you have done? I think it does, in full measure, and then some. No mention about her children, more of what she has done and the guilt that she feels. It ends with the lack of light at the end of her tunnel. Are we, as human beings, so vengeful that we cannot give her some small glimmer of hope that, in spite of all, there is redemption, someday? I truly hope that someone working with her, has the eyes to see that she regrets her mistake and that they, with an ounce of compassion, are able to move her onwards to a better life, some day. Whilst I'm noted for kicking anything on legs, I never, ever, kicked anyone, when they were down, it's just not the done thing in my book and therefore appeal to the better 'man' within you, on this occaision, to have a little heart and find within you, that spirit of compassion, to forgive her. No, am not related to anyone, I was just touched by such an outpouring, as you are now touched by mine. It's only words..[/p][/quote]As a standalone offence I could perhaps see this as a crime of passion. But the article says she also asked to poison another partner with anti-freeze. Taken together these are surely the actions of a dangerous psychopath.[/p][/quote]Im not sure because the way you read it makes sense, but I think she asked the other boyfriend if she could poison this one with anti-freeze. As for the Telegraph publishing it I dont see any problem.[/p][/quote]So you don't see a problem with a newspaper giving publicity to a poem written by a convicted murderer? Do you think the victims family will be over joyed that the person that murdered their lived one is having a poem published and therefore giving her a platform to perform on? If you can't see what's wrong with it then you are without question an idiot sir.[/p][/quote]Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it, just as others are welcome to have an opinion. The job of a newspaper is to report things, an example of which might be Shebby's lies which seem to occur most times he opens his mouth, do you stop reporting what he says because people dont agree with it? If you dont want to read it dont read it.. barryinthailand

6:08pm Sat 19 Jan 13

her from here says...

This is a murderer without any remorse looking for pity having her say about her crime, Her victim has no voice I'm disgusted that the Telegraph would print this item they should have had more thought for his family
This is a murderer without any remorse looking for pity having her say about her crime, Her victim has no voice I'm disgusted that the Telegraph would print this item they should have had more thought for his family her from here

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