Disabled couple hit with ticket outside old Blackburn Market

TICKET Robert Fulton

TICKET Robert Fulton

First published in News Lancashire Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , Crime reporter

AN elderly couple who were issued with a parking ticket for leaving their car in a loading bay outside the old Blackburn Market, which closed more than a year ago, said the situation ‘was a joke’.

Robert Fulton, 80, and his wife Jean, who is in her 70s, parked their yellow Vauxhall in the space, in Brown Street, last Friday, so they could easily acc-ess shops in The Mall.

The couple, who live in Pole Lane, Darwen, have both had knee replacement surgery and had displayed their blue badge.

But Blackburn with Darwen Council officials said the loading bay was still used by some businesses in the area, incl- uding the Blackburn Transport Office, Gala Bingo, and the Job Centre.

Mr Fulton, who used to run a home brewing stall on the old market, said he couldn’t believe he had received the ticket.

He said: “It was a joke and an expensive one at that.

“My wife has problems walk-ing, and I have a false knee, so it is essential we park close to the shops.

“The market has been shut down for a long time, so we have no idea who is loading outside. It is an empty building.”

Coun Dave Harling, executive member for regeneration at Blackburn with Darwen Coun-cil, said: “The ticket was corr-ectly issued in this case as blue badge holders are not permitted to park in loading bays. “This includes those at the former market, which are still enf-orceable due to some businesses still using the area.

“The couple can appeal to the council as we have a policy to cancel the first parking fine issued to a blue badge holder,” he added.

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3:04pm Fri 14 Dec 12

burner says...

. . . "The ticket was corr-ectly issued in this case as blue badge holders are not permitted to park in loading bays." . . . sorry, Robert, but we all have to live with rules, regulations and laws. Dave Harling ( blessings upon you this Festive Season ) says the loading bays are, " still enf-orceable due to some businesses still using the area. ". Don't be a naughty boy, Rob, use one of the gazillion disabled bays or park on yellows .
. . . "The ticket was corr-ectly issued in this case as blue badge holders are not permitted to park in loading bays." . . . sorry, Robert, but we all have to live with rules, regulations and laws. Dave Harling ( blessings upon you this Festive Season ) says the loading bays are, " still enf-orceable due to some businesses still using the area. ". Don't be a naughty boy, Rob, use one of the gazillion disabled bays or park on yellows . burner
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3:07pm Fri 14 Dec 12

JP58 says...

I sympathise with the couples disability but could they not use one of the many disabled parking spaces in the town centre including the ones on the main carpark which is right in the middle of the shopping area? The street outside where I work is regularly filled with cars with blue badges in them so that our customers have no access, the badge holders then walk accross to shop in Morrisons where the disabled parking in the store would obviously be nearer, I am all for disabled parking but I think that blue badge holders should also show consideration when parking.
I sympathise with the couples disability but could they not use one of the many disabled parking spaces in the town centre including the ones on the main carpark which is right in the middle of the shopping area? The street outside where I work is regularly filled with cars with blue badges in them so that our customers have no access, the badge holders then walk accross to shop in Morrisons where the disabled parking in the store would obviously be nearer, I am all for disabled parking but I think that blue badge holders should also show consideration when parking. JP58
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3:17pm Fri 14 Dec 12

useyourhead says...

why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders?
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Total discrimination!!
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why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence.
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back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.
why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders? - Total discrimination!! - why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence. - back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user. useyourhead
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3:45pm Fri 14 Dec 12

2 for 5p says...

Robert the git :

What puts you above the law.
Robert the git : What puts you above the law. 2 for 5p
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4:00pm Fri 14 Dec 12

sunnyside1 says...

omg has the LET got nothing better to do than to report about some idiot who cant park his car in the correct place !!!! no one cares ..... what is it with a lot of these badge holders thinking their above the law and parking were ever they dam well like.
omg has the LET got nothing better to do than to report about some idiot who cant park his car in the correct place !!!! no one cares ..... what is it with a lot of these badge holders thinking their above the law and parking were ever they dam well like. sunnyside1
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5:05pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Good call says...

sunnyside1 wrote:
omg has the LET got nothing better to do than to report about some idiot who cant park his car in the correct place !!!! no one cares ..... what is it with a lot of these badge holders thinking their above the law and parking were ever they dam well like.
There was no victim,there was no injury,harm or loss and there was no obstruction of a public highway.
[quote][p][bold]sunnyside1[/bold] wrote: omg has the LET got nothing better to do than to report about some idiot who cant park his car in the correct place !!!! no one cares ..... what is it with a lot of these badge holders thinking their above the law and parking were ever they dam well like.[/p][/quote]There was no victim,there was no injury,harm or loss and there was no obstruction of a public highway. Good call
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5:14pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Dai Darwen says...

Yes, he hadn't been in the Telegraph for a while.
Yes, he hadn't been in the Telegraph for a while. Dai Darwen
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5:15pm Fri 14 Dec 12

YNWAJFT96 says...

useyourhead wrote:
why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders?
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Total discrimination!!
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why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence.
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back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.
What do you mean 'former' badge holder?
[quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders? - Total discrimination!! - why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence. - back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.[/p][/quote]What do you mean 'former' badge holder? YNWAJFT96
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7:07pm Fri 14 Dec 12

ChairOnMyHead says...

"The Blue Badge is not a licence to park anywhere."

This is clearly stated on the www.gov.uk website.
Why make a fuss when you have been caught parking illegally. Blue badge or not!
"The Blue Badge is not a licence to park anywhere." This is clearly stated on the www.gov.uk website. Why make a fuss when you have been caught parking illegally. Blue badge or not! ChairOnMyHead
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7:17pm Fri 14 Dec 12

CapitaBackHander says...

It is a non story! They CAN park on double yellows so don't need all the flipping disabled bays anyway! They then go and park somewhere where they are NOT allowed to park and get a non story printed. Deserve all the grief they have asked for!
It is a non story! They CAN park on double yellows so don't need all the flipping disabled bays anyway! They then go and park somewhere where they are NOT allowed to park and get a non story printed. Deserve all the grief they have asked for! CapitaBackHander
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7:32pm Fri 14 Dec 12

ChairOnMyHead says...

You can actually park ANYWHERE if you leave your hazard lights flashing! It's true. Honest.
You can actually park ANYWHERE if you leave your hazard lights flashing! It's true. Honest. ChairOnMyHead
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8:47pm Fri 14 Dec 12

jay1969 says...

Got to say totally agree with the ticket, as a delivery driver a loading bay is as it states and while where on the subject of tickets, have you seen Audley Range lately, but you'll never see a warden patrolling that street!
Got to say totally agree with the ticket, as a delivery driver a loading bay is as it states and while where on the subject of tickets, have you seen Audley Range lately, but you'll never see a warden patrolling that street! jay1969
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9:10am Sat 15 Dec 12

useyourhead says...

YNWAJFT96 wrote:
useyourhead wrote:
why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders?
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Total discrimination!!
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why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence.
-
back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.
What do you mean 'former' badge holder?
I said badge user, but basically my mother had one before she passed away, and i was her driver. the badge was returned on her death, hence the 'former'.
[quote][p][bold]YNWAJFT96[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders? - Total discrimination!! - why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence. - back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.[/p][/quote]What do you mean 'former' badge holder?[/p][/quote]I said badge user, but basically my mother had one before she passed away, and i was her driver. the badge was returned on her death, hence the 'former'. useyourhead
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12:38pm Sat 15 Dec 12

A Darener says...

As the driver for my disabled daughter I have to agree with the comments above. Blue badge holders think they have a divine right to park anywhere. I am very loath to park on double yellow lines unless I have no alternative. Double yellow lines are there for a reason so I won't usually park on them even though I can. This sort of story gives badge holders a bad name. What should be followed up is the mis use of badges and the misuse of disabled parking places by non disabled drivers and their passengers.
As the driver for my disabled daughter I have to agree with the comments above. Blue badge holders think they have a divine right to park anywhere. I am very loath to park on double yellow lines unless I have no alternative. Double yellow lines are there for a reason so I won't usually park on them even though I can. This sort of story gives badge holders a bad name. What should be followed up is the mis use of badges and the misuse of disabled parking places by non disabled drivers and their passengers. A Darener
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1:00pm Sat 15 Dec 12

djt says...

They parked in the wrong place and got caught. Shut up and the pay the fine. Having a blue badge does not allow you to park where ever you please.
They parked in the wrong place and got caught. Shut up and the pay the fine. Having a blue badge does not allow you to park where ever you please. djt
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2:55pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Briantodd says...

Blue Badge users can not park anywhere.
i had a ble badge holder with me and parked on a double yellow line but, un noticed by neithr myself or the badge holder there was a block across the double yellow line making it illegal to park adn I had to pay a fine. So NO blue badge holders can not park anywhere!!
Blue Badge users can not park anywhere. i had a ble badge holder with me and parked on a double yellow line but, un noticed by neithr myself or the badge holder there was a block across the double yellow line making it illegal to park adn I had to pay a fine. So NO blue badge holders can not park anywhere!! Briantodd
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3:22pm Sat 15 Dec 12

peely says...

He should have gone up Whalley Range ! You can park anywhere up there honest - double yellows , pavement ,pedestrian crossing absolutely anywhere and not a warden in sight !
He should have gone up Whalley Range ! You can park anywhere up there honest - double yellows , pavement ,pedestrian crossing absolutely anywhere and not a warden in sight ! peely
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7:52pm Sat 15 Dec 12

thoroughbred says...

Pay your fine, you broke the law, just like the 21 offenders I counted on double yellows along Whalley 'we please ourselves' Range today. No ifs! No buts! there's more than enough disabled spaces...too many in fact!
Dunno where you get the nerve to publicise your flouting of the law?
Pay your fine, you broke the law, just like the 21 offenders I counted on double yellows along Whalley 'we please ourselves' Range today. No ifs! No buts! there's more than enough disabled spaces...too many in fact! Dunno where you get the nerve to publicise your flouting of the law? thoroughbred
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10:07pm Sat 15 Dec 12

2 for 5p says...

why do you pick on whalley range for a example .
You never see wardns at shadsworth or whitebirk or mellor or brownhill, the **** is endless why do you pick on whalley range .
I think we all know what you are, SCUM.
why do you pick on whalley range for a example . You never see wardns at shadsworth or whitebirk or mellor or brownhill, the **** is endless why do you pick on whalley range . I think we all know what you are, SCUM. 2 for 5p
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12:19am Sun 16 Dec 12

peely says...

2 for 5p wrote:
why do you pick on whalley range for a example .
You never see wardns at shadsworth or whitebirk or mellor or brownhill, the **** is endless why do you pick on whalley range .
I think we all know what you are, SCUM.
Ok won,t pick on Whalley range then, he should have parked on Audley range !
[quote][p][bold]2 for 5p[/bold] wrote: why do you pick on whalley range for a example . You never see wardns at shadsworth or whitebirk or mellor or brownhill, the **** is endless why do you pick on whalley range . I think we all know what you are, SCUM.[/p][/quote]Ok won,t pick on Whalley range then, he should have parked on Audley range ! peely
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1:42am Sun 16 Dec 12

2 for 5p says...

peely wrote:
2 for 5p wrote:
why do you pick on whalley range for a example .
You never see wardns at shadsworth or whitebirk or mellor or brownhill, the **** is endless why do you pick on whalley range .
I think we all know what you are, SCUM.
Ok won,t pick on Whalley range then, he should have parked on Audley range !
he could also of parked in shad or whitebirk or mellor or ewood
[quote][p][bold]peely[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]2 for 5p[/bold] wrote: why do you pick on whalley range for a example . You never see wardns at shadsworth or whitebirk or mellor or brownhill, the **** is endless why do you pick on whalley range . I think we all know what you are, SCUM.[/p][/quote]Ok won,t pick on Whalley range then, he should have parked on Audley range ![/p][/quote]he could also of parked in shad or whitebirk or mellor or ewood 2 for 5p
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7:54am Sun 16 Dec 12

sunnyside1 says...

thoroughbred wrote:
Pay your fine, you broke the law, just like the 21 offenders I counted on double yellows along Whalley 'we please ourselves' Range today. No ifs! No buts! there's more than enough disabled spaces...too many in fact! Dunno where you get the nerve to publicise your flouting of the law?
well said throughbred !!
[quote][p][bold]thoroughbred[/bold] wrote: Pay your fine, you broke the law, just like the 21 offenders I counted on double yellows along Whalley 'we please ourselves' Range today. No ifs! No buts! there's more than enough disabled spaces...too many in fact! Dunno where you get the nerve to publicise your flouting of the law?[/p][/quote]well said throughbred !! sunnyside1
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10:38am Sun 16 Dec 12

jackmetickler says...

sunnyside1 wrote:
thoroughbred wrote: Pay your fine, you broke the law, just like the 21 offenders I counted on double yellows along Whalley 'we please ourselves' Range today. No ifs! No buts! there's more than enough disabled spaces...too many in fact! Dunno where you get the nerve to publicise your flouting of the law?
well said throughbred !!
agree but I bet most of the whalley range fines mysteriosly never get paid or enforced!
[quote][p][bold]sunnyside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thoroughbred[/bold] wrote: Pay your fine, you broke the law, just like the 21 offenders I counted on double yellows along Whalley 'we please ourselves' Range today. No ifs! No buts! there's more than enough disabled spaces...too many in fact! Dunno where you get the nerve to publicise your flouting of the law?[/p][/quote]well said throughbred !![/p][/quote]agree but I bet most of the whalley range fines mysteriosly never get paid or enforced! jackmetickler
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10:46am Sun 16 Dec 12

mibman2003 says...

As a Traffic Warden myself (in Bolton) I come accross the same scenarios all the time. Disabled Badge Holders pretty much own the town centre bays, and occupy 95% of the them, yet moan like hell when they get a ticket for parking in one of the bays where they are not permitted to. One situation last week really wound me up....a few Disabled Badge holders complained because a section of a street was suspended so coaches full of children could safely drop them off in order for them to visit the Museum etc, for the first time ALL YEAR no-one INCLUDING badge houders could park there at all. A few elderly people approached me, and to quote said "it's absolutely disgraceful" that they were not allowed to park. I explained that it was for the safety of the children, and they completely refused to acknowledge it....completely selfish and arrogant!!!
As a Traffic Warden myself (in Bolton) I come accross the same scenarios all the time. Disabled Badge Holders pretty much own the town centre bays, and occupy 95% of the them, yet moan like hell when they get a ticket for parking in one of the bays where they are not permitted to. One situation last week really wound me up....a few Disabled Badge holders complained because a section of a street was suspended so coaches full of children could safely drop them off in order for them to visit the Museum etc, for the first time ALL YEAR no-one INCLUDING badge houders could park there at all. A few elderly people approached me, and to quote said "it's absolutely disgraceful" that they were not allowed to park. I explained that it was for the safety of the children, and they completely refused to acknowledge it....completely selfish and arrogant!!! mibman2003
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11:37am Sun 16 Dec 12

Cuttingsky says...

useyourhead wrote:
why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders?
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Total discrimination!!
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why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence.
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back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.
My thoughts exactly. All issued with a first ticket should cite this as their first ground..... Discrimination at it's worst in my opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!
[quote][p][bold]useyourhead[/bold] wrote: why is there a policy to cancle the first ticket for all blue badge holders? - Total discrimination!! - why not look at each appeal on its merits and cancle if appropriate? to say we have such a policy is giving all blue badge holders a 'free pass' for the first offence. - back on point, he should have parked properly, there are more than enough concessions allowed with a blue badge, and yes, I am speaking as a former badge user.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. All issued with a first ticket should cite this as their first ground..... Discrimination at it's worst in my opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! Cuttingsky
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11:39am Sun 16 Dec 12

Cuttingsky says...

Good call wrote:
sunnyside1 wrote:
omg has the LET got nothing better to do than to report about some idiot who cant park his car in the correct place !!!! no one cares ..... what is it with a lot of these badge holders thinking their above the law and parking were ever they dam well like.
There was no victim,there was no injury,harm or loss and there was no obstruction of a public highway.
Good call says..............

You have missed the mighty BUT......

He broke the rules............

NO IF's BUT's AND's.....

SIMPLES!
[quote][p][bold]Good call[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sunnyside1[/bold] wrote: omg has the LET got nothing better to do than to report about some idiot who cant park his car in the correct place !!!! no one cares ..... what is it with a lot of these badge holders thinking their above the law and parking were ever they dam well like.[/p][/quote]There was no victim,there was no injury,harm or loss and there was no obstruction of a public highway.[/p][/quote]Good call says.............. You have missed the mighty BUT...... He broke the rules............ NO IF's BUT's AND's..... SIMPLES! Cuttingsky
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11:45am Sun 16 Dec 12

Cuttingsky says...

ChairOnMyHead wrote:
You can actually park ANYWHERE if you leave your hazard lights flashing! It's true. Honest.
That's where he went wrong!
[quote][p][bold]ChairOnMyHead[/bold] wrote: You can actually park ANYWHERE if you leave your hazard lights flashing! It's true. Honest.[/p][/quote]That's where he went wrong! Cuttingsky
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12:03pm Tue 18 Dec 12

johndarwen says...

Would be nice to see people who park at Asdas getting booked for not being disabled using disabled bays and their parents badges.
When was the last time you saw a council worker checking the badges in cars against the drivers of the cars?
Would be nice to see people who park at Asdas getting booked for not being disabled using disabled bays and their parents badges. When was the last time you saw a council worker checking the badges in cars against the drivers of the cars? johndarwen
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