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It’s wrong to think we are a soft touch

2:36pm Thursday 24th July 2008

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We’re far too soft – is a common refrain from folk. Soft on criminals, soft on foreign prisoners, soft on immigrants, soft on asylum seekers, soft on EU workers.

Just before I stood on my soap-box for one of my regular question times in Blackburn a gentleman came up to me and asked whether there was any other country in Europe “which doled out benefits – including child benefit” to workers from other EU countries, like Poles “even if their children are still in Poland?”

I understand exactly why people feel this. It’s partly the fact that our media are going to highlight cases where the system is taken for a ride.

And when people are feeling the pinch, as they are these days, resentments about others who maybe abusing the system are bound to rise.

But is any of this true?Mostly not. Here are some answers.

Crime: Down again especially in Lancashire, where we have one of the best police forces in the country.

Five years ago my residents’ meetings were dominated by concerns about crime. Now they are not.

At my meeting in Little Harwood last Friday there were concerns about vandalism to a play area, and about the state of the War Memorial, but neither the police chief nor I could entice any further crime concerns from those present.

It’s not that crime has gone away completely, of course not.

But there is much higher confidence in the police – and when crime is committed there’s a higher chance of the culprits being brought to justice.

“Tougher prison sentences and tougher policing are working” was the headline on a comment piece in yesterday’s Times.

It’s true. Despite adding a record 23,000 places to our prisons in 11 years there’s a reason why prisons are bursting at the seams.

More crooks are being put away, and for longer. I’m completely unapologetic about that.

If they are locked up, they can’t go burgling or worse.

Foreign Prisoners: I wish we didn’t have one. Instead we have 11,200.

But Germany and Spain have nearly twice as many as us (21,600 each); and we’re way down the European league table.

Foreign prisoners are 14 per cent of our prison population; 21 per cent in France; 28 per cent Germany, 33 per cent Spain; 42 per cent in Greece and Austria, and a whopping 62 per cent in Switzerland.

Asylum seekers: It’s right that like any other civilised nation we should provide a safe haven for those fleeing from real persecution.

But not for those who abuse the system. We’ve become tougher on unfounded asylum seekers.

The number of applicants is now at its lowest level since 1993, and deportations are now at record levels. In 2006, for the first time ever, we removed more failed asylum seekers than those making unfounded claims EU workers.

So what about all those Poles, and the rest?

Unsurprisingly, since after the war we provided a home to so many Poles who’d bravely fought for our freedom as well as theirs during the war, the long established Polish community in east Lancashire has provided a base for the “new” Poles who’ve come here to work.

But across the UK a recent independent report [IPPR.29 April] has estimated that a half of the one million Poles who came here after Poland joined the EU have now left the UK, as Poland’s economy improves.

Their benefit entitlement applies across Europe.

As I explained to the gentleman in the town centre last Saturday, he might be complaining about “our” money being spent on benefits for “them”; but go to Spain or France and you’ll hear exactly the same complaint – except for “Poles” read “Brits”.

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Joseph Yossarian, London says...
5:13pm Thu 24 Jul 08

"Spain or France and you’ll hear exactly the same complaint – except for “Poles” read “Brits”. "

Ah, maybe the honourable member is not telling the whole truth.
A Brit living in Spain (or any other country of the EU) is in theory entitled to the same benefits as a member of that state.

In Spain and many other countries of the EU the benefits are much, much lower than in the Spongers Society that is UK under labour - which is why so many come here.

Petermariner, Blackburn says...
2:16am Sat 26 Jul 08

How many countries are "at war" and their people need a safe country to claim asylum in?....and How many safe countries do these asylum-seekers travel through where they could have claimed asylum before they arrive here? I thought we were an Island!....Where is our border protection?

berny, burnley says...
8:30pm Sat 26 Jul 08

dont worry jack you wont need to try and explain for long .cos you will be kicked out come next election

Nostradamous, Blackburn says...
3:40pm Mon 28 Jul 08

I understand exactly why people feel this. It’s partly the fact that our media are going to highlight cases where the system is taken for a ride..

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Sorry Jack but you are wrong about this,what makes most people think that NEW labour is soft on crime is, when you see men or women with ASBO on them doing community work down the park or in other public places,that these poeple show no remorse whatsoever,and wo betied anyone who stops to watch and see just what they are supposed to be doing,the abuse these folks get is disgracefull and there minders never check them or say anything to them,so you tell me what kind of punishment is that,ok you naughty boys and girls it is off to the park for you guys to stand about and make a further nuisance of yoourselves for a few hours, and please whilst you sre there would you mind clearing up those leaves or the odd branch thats fallen down,,That Jack is why you are seen to be soft on crime,a lady who had her husband murdered by these mobster types came to see you recently and you didnt have a clue what she was on about in truth,i watched the interview you had with her,sympathy yes,listening yes,hearing anything NO!!!!.

Spanner, Channel Isles says...
10:07pm Mon 28 Jul 08

Jacks right and wrong about being soft on crime. Jack is super soft on producing a false document (cut and paste a students thesis and a magazines article) and present it as a 'dossier' of 'evidence' to start a war (at this point Jack Straw has stopped 'listening').

This contrived deliberate lying (fabrication as truth), despite being a national scandal which led to a murderous war, was water off Jacks back (and the principles he appears to be applying - where are they now Jack?).

And Blair and our Jack promoted the Joint Intelligence (word used lightly) Staff. Great so fabrication and deceipt of democracy is a Labour promotion winner!

And Jack is soft on a pre-meditated war (ie. not a defencive act) which broke an international Law set after the Nuremberg Trials to prevent atrocities happening again.

And Jack 'knew nothing' about America using British air bases for them to transport prisoners to a whole host torture sites. Jack was asked 3 times and Jack replied he "was not aware" America was landing planes in Britain for such purposes (well other people were Mr Straw - haven't got your finger on the pulse have you!).

Regarding crime Jack is actually right. It's on the decline here and in every country. Jack is wrong its down to the police. The police detection rate has remained flat as a pancake as crimes declined despite Britain having more spy-cameras than any Totalitarian State in the world (Jack 'omits' this fact spy-cameras are a total failure). And you'd rightly think with lesser crime police have more time to solve more crime. No. In fact the opposite. The police aren't better. They're less productive than ever (close to useless in most peoples opinion).

Next we look at locking people up. Jack talks about Germany and Spains higher rate of foreign prisoners. He fails to mention Britain locks up more citizens. In fact Labour locks up more local people for far longer than anyone in the world bar the US.

Because Jack is harder on penalties than our softer more forgiving European neighbours (and there's no evidence it works - but Jack likes lock ups for longer as per the 48 days shambles).

Labour has done more than any country worldwide to criminalise trivia. You can get a criminal record for parking or your baby dropping a sausage roll on the pavement. Never has triviality become so 'important' to our Jack, Tony and Gordon (if only they were so tough on international Law they could 'enjoy' what they're so keen to promote).

Finally Jack how, after 15yrs of your inept shambolic dishonest governance, is this country in such a mess if you know it all? 60m pairs of shoes are taken off at airports a year, cues are sometimes 40mins long, because you know so much about "improving national security" don't you?

Big Brother is no longer a book. It is Britain today after 1,600 new laws a year. Jack Straw is the worst tool of that toolbox and as nasty a little man as you can imagine. You don't fool anybody anymore.

Jasonxx, Clitheroe says...
2:23pm Tue 29 Jul 08

Jack, Labour are now paying the price for constantly ignoring the fact that ‘current public opinion’ should be a major factor when formulating and introducing Government policies, (after all, we the public elected them). However, ‘public opinion’ is precisely what Labour have failed to take into consideration here in the UK. The current Labour Government, with its Marxist ideology and multi-cultural agenda, has for many years been stealthily introducing policies that have slowly eroded the very fabric of British society, whilst at the same time riding roughshod over the majorities’ wishes. There is now a ground-swell of opinion that says we have had enough of political correctness, pandering to immigrants, social-cohesion, etc, etc. This shambles of a Government will soon be deservedly kicked into touch. It’s now payback-time, and no amount of hand-wringing and blaming the economy will alter the situation. They have constantly ignored the public’s stated views on so many issues (not least the EU referendum) that they have only themselves to blame for their impending demise. Hopefully, we will soon be able to set about trying to undo the damage they have caused, and begin the task of rebuilding and reclaiming back our Country.

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