Double trouble for East Lancashire ‘halal’ KFC restaurants (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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Double trouble for East Lancashire ‘halal’ KFC restaurants
11:00am Monday 15th March 2010 in
MUSLIM leaders from East Lancashire have demanded a meeting with bosses of a fast food giant in a row over halal accreditation.
According to Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC), its Accrington, Blackburn, Colne and Burnley restaurants have switched to halal.
KFC said it was certified by the Halal Food Authority (HFA) and the authority’s logo is displayed on the doors of its outlets.
But the Lancashire Council of Mosques (LCM) has asked for an urgent meeting with the firm after concerns were raised over the authenticity of the halal food served.
Meanwhile a protest has been launched against KFC’s decision to serve only halal meat at its Colne branch.
More than 1,500 people have joined a Facebook group, ‘No halal at Colne KFC.’ The HFA is the largest food certification body in the UK and certifies thousands of shops, butchers and stores across the UK.
But the council said it was now using the Halal Monitoring Committee (HMC) criteria as its benchmark.
Just over 300 businesses in the UK are certified by the HMC which claims to take a more proactive approach in ensuring food is halal.
In a statement the LCM said: “Upon researching KFC’s website, it is apparent the chickens are stunned before slaughter.
“This issue is of great concern to us because the halal criterion, adopted by LCM after wide consultation, does not allow stunning and this conforms to British law.
“We are concerned whether there is a thorough certification process in place throughout the supply chain of KFC.
“With the above in mind, the LCM halal sub group has requested an urgent meeting with the representatives of the Lancashire branches of KFC together with the halal manager from KFC headquarters.
“Meanwhile, LCM recommends the Muslim community to exercise caution.”
A spokesperson for KFC said: “We have replied to the many requests for halal restaurants by introducing a halal trial at a number of stores across the country, which includes some of our restaurants in Lancashire.
“The trial is accredited by the Halal Food Authority which is recognised in the UK and by the World Halal Council.”
Comments(159)
happycyclist
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11:34am Mon 15 Mar 10
If you want halal, perhaps you should consider starting up a rival franchise:
'Karachi Fried Chicken'
happycyclist
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11:37am Mon 15 Mar 10
wackyracer
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11:37am Mon 15 Mar 10
Colne_Lad
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11:41am Mon 15 Mar 10
wackyracer
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11:48am Mon 15 Mar 10
RK
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12:08pm Mon 15 Mar 10
kaotic kaos
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12:18pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Has anyone noticed that most toffee in blackburn shops is now "halal"
What the f*** is that about.
Ian the Beancounter
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12:28pm Mon 15 Mar 10
moggy669
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12:28pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Colne_Lad
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12:29pm Mon 15 Mar 10
past.times01
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12:31pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Halal food products are produced by a cruel way of killing animals based on ancient, unfounded religious beliefs. However, cruelty to animals may not bother some and everyone has that right to live their own life and what they do!
But cruel slaughter practices based on religious beliefs that do not have any proof of existence are largely based on the fear of an unknown afterlife. A very selfish attitude and let‘s all face it, maybe there isn’t an afterlife after all!
Can anyone prove otherwise?
shawman
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12:31pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Pendle power
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12:34pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Pendle power
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12:37pm Mon 15 Mar 10
mak1207
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12:44pm Mon 15 Mar 10
mak1207
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12:46pm Mon 15 Mar 10
RK wrote:RK i bet you will be there scoffing them chickens
That's it for me then, no way am I going to use KFC again.
happycyclist
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12:50pm Mon 15 Mar 10
"The RSPCA is opposed to the slaughter of any animal without rendering that animal insensible to pain and distress until death supervenes."
K!!
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12:55pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Islam states that the meat should be halal so that is what Muslims eat. I don't recall seeing anything in the bible that says what Christians can/can't eat, so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
happycyclist
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1:02pm Mon 15 Mar 10
K!! wrote:Erm, your second paragraph is exactly what all the fuss is about. Eventually the law will change so that all meat has to be halal, and the Christians and non-believers will realise that they no longer have the choice to eat non-halal.
It doesn't really matter how the animal is killed, it will always feel pain to some extent. If people were really bothered about animals suffering when being slaughtered then they should become vegetarian.
Islam states that the meat should be halal so that is what Muslims eat. I don't recall seeing anything in the bible that says what Christians can/can't eat, so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
This is what people mean by the "Islamification of Britain". Don't be surprised if not everyone lies down to be slaughtered so easily.
campbell69s
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1:05pm Mon 15 Mar 10
I didn't realise that all KFCs in Lancashire were now halal.
That's one customer down (not that they'll notice)
pip-pip
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1:10pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter
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1:10pm Mon 15 Mar 10
K!! wrote:And your first paragraph is also what the fuss is about. Halal slaughter involves a slow, painful and distressing death for the animal, whereas traditional slaughter is quick and as painless as possible.
It doesn't really matter how the animal is killed, it will always feel pain to some extent. If people were really bothered about animals suffering when being slaughtered then they should become vegetarian. Islam states that the meat should be halal so that is what Muslims eat. I don't recall seeing anything in the bible that says what Christians can/can't eat, so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
MerlinTheVoiceofReason
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1:16pm Mon 15 Mar 10
However, I am against Halal and indeed Kosher methods of slaughter - both are barbaric and cause needless suffering to the animal.
Secondly, I don't eat at KFC anyway as the food is truly in the "junk" category.
ste.g
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1:21pm Mon 15 Mar 10
i will not be using any of these branches from now on.and to all kfc"s everywere.i will be watching and asking just what kind of meat i will be eating.
Imran786
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1:40pm Mon 15 Mar 10
There is DIXY CHIKEN everywhere but the fact is KFC made a business decision???????????
And slaughtering animals in any way is still painful so dont use that escuse. Complain to KFC and dont blame the muslims ONCE AGAIN !!!!!!!!
United!!United!!
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1:51pm Mon 15 Mar 10
righteousjudgement
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1:58pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter wrote:some of the posts on this article are ridiculous!
K!! wrote:And your first paragraph is also what the fuss is about. Halal slaughter involves a slow, painful and distressing death for the animal, whereas traditional slaughter is quick and as painless as possible.
It doesn't really matter how the animal is killed, it will always feel pain to some extent. If people were really bothered about animals suffering when being slaughtered then they should become vegetarian. Islam states that the meat should be halal so that is what Muslims eat. I don't recall seeing anything in the bible that says what Christians can/can't eat, so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
If you so called 'civilised' citizens are so against the slaughter of an animal or care so much for the rights of an animal, why are you still digging your gnashes into bacon butties and your t-bone steaks??? only the vegetarian can even attempt to criticise the way an animal is killed. Muslims only slaughter the meat of certain animals as they are only allowed to eat certain animals unlike the non-Muslim population that will eat anything from snails to rats! why don't you all kick up a fuss about throwing a live lobster into boiling water??? or feeding the remains of other animals to their relatives??? remember when you 'civilised' people caused Bovine spongiform encephalopathy? anyway how many of you insist on having the non halal option when scoffing down your vindaloos and kebabs? Bloody hypocrites!!!!
Ian the Beancounter
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2:00pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Imran786 wrote:Imran, I'm afraid you're typical of the sort of Muslim who claims "victim status" if ANYTHING is said which you deem to be anti-Islam. I can't speak for others, but my objection is purely down to the barbarity of allowing an animal to bleed to death slowly. Can you imagine the fear, pain, bewilderment and confusion the animal must experience before it finally loses consciousness? A quick death must be infinitely preferable.
Are you all silly KFC went halal did the muslim community tell them to do that NO they did it for money FACT. Its their business so stop blaming muslims for it and get a life. There is DIXY CHIKEN everywhere but the fact is KFC made a business decision??????????? And slaughtering animals in any way is still painful so dont use that escuse. Complain to KFC and dont blame the muslims ONCE AGAIN !!!!!!!!
time.team
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2:06pm Mon 15 Mar 10
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Disgraceful animal cruelty. But what's new about that with this company. They've been doing that all of the time with their chicken products?
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They just go where this evil trade is. Why else would they have picked this area?
lancastrian lass
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2:15pm Mon 15 Mar 10
javed
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2:15pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Halal is when an animal is sacrificed in the name of Allah for food and is slaughtered by a prayer and the slitting of the throat, its blood is then completely drained from the body, it has been proven to be less painful than stunning, this was done by testing and found it less stressful on the heart as opposed to stunning the animal - Now some will find it disgusting and some will find it acceptable, unfortunately everyone cannot be pleased, so make a decision based on your views, killing and eating an animal can be viewed as inhumane irrespective of how its killed...... after all it has been killed so what degree of difference does it make once it has been killed?, irrespective of which method!!
Animals have been sacrificed for food for centuries and its only now this so called problem has risen, and why Islamaphobia. Do your think there is some sort of Voodoo that goes on? No it will taste the same and I'm sure it will fill up your arteries of crap just the same, As Imran above states KFC has decided to cater for all markets, we are after all in a recession??!!
To all those saying they will boycott the KFC, what about all those Indian chicken curries and tikkas you have been eating all these years, they are halal!! what's wrong if its cooked in vegetable oil, as its more healthy, when the blood is drained there is less likelihood of a disease or contamination spreading.
Instead of just coming out with comments that have no justification and saying the country is becoming Islamic look at other examples, be it economic or other offerings in the community to cater for all walks of people and not just Muslims.
One final thing these people that want to boycott These halal places try the food, you may even like it!!
I for one don't like KFC, tried it in Dubai so that's my reason, and No other, and if you don't like the way its slaughtered then make a stance and don't go, we all have a choice, exercise it but don't keep on blaming Islam for other peoples or companies shortcomings or profiting from the wider community.
United!!United!!
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2:17pm Mon 15 Mar 10
...You've made a good point. Isn't an 'Indian Curry' the most popular dish in the country??? there was a programme on TV about it, lol.
Almost all curry houses put halal meats in their curries as they are usually owned by muslim's. The hindu places don't tend to do meat dishes as most Hindu's tend to not eat meat. Lets see how many of you can live without there usual indians after a night out. Oh, and those donner kebabs from your local takeaway... are HALAL too, haha!!!
past.times01
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2:31pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Halal food products are produced by a cruel way of killing animals based on ancient, unfounded religious beliefs. However, cruelty to animals may not bother some and everyone has that right to live their own life and what they do!
But cruel slaughter practices based on religious beliefs that do not have any proof of existence are largely based on the fear of an unknown afterlife. A very selfish attitude and let‘s all face it, maybe there isn’t an afterlife after all!
Can anyone prove otherwise?
Do we all eat meat. NO!
Davidoff
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2:33pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Can we expect now to see Kosher menus at KFC? No, didn't think so.
As to Merlin. Isn't it time you decided where you actually live? Cos I **** well know it's not 'Ramsbottom' mate!
Seems to me there is one person posting under several names on this report. Very sad.
NUMBER5
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2:38pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Mikeee47
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3:10pm Mon 15 Mar 10
I won't hold my breath.
Hugh Jardon
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3:12pm Mon 15 Mar 10
No more NZ lamb for me....
rachipoos
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3:13pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Markr
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3:19pm Mon 15 Mar 10
I was told that there was a sign on the door and one on the wall letting you know that it is hahal, the sign on the door is in some sort of code with a building, some foriegn writing and a few letters no mention of HalHal at all, seems like its some code to only let people in the know aware that its halhal, ordinary Christian folk like us wouldnt have a clue, the sign on the wall inside is behind the serving counter and easy to miss.
You might like to ring them and explain that they have now excluded the largest part of the population (Christian) from their stores.
I believe there are demos being aranged by various goups for the near future.
Lovelancs
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3:31pm Mon 15 Mar 10
chappyhappyness
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3:31pm Mon 15 Mar 10
quorn chicken leg....
yum yum
noneofyourbusiness
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3:40pm Mon 15 Mar 10
"Halal is when an animal is sacrificed in the name of Allah "
although it may seem like it at times not EVERYONE in east lancashire follows Allah.....
either offer both options or none at all!
hoodle
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3:57pm Mon 15 Mar 10
retired one
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3:59pm Mon 15 Mar 10
javed wrote:If an animal is slaughtered in the name of Allah for food, then there is no problem in this process if it is done in a Muslim country. Everyone is entitled to observe their beliefs.
I have been intrigued by the many varying comments above and what really upsets me is the lack of understanding. Do half of you know what halal is? will it taste different or spoil your meal? how does it affect you as a consumer? Halal is when an animal is sacrificed in the name of Allah for food and is slaughtered by a prayer and the slitting of the throat, its blood is then completely drained from the body, it has been proven to be less painful than stunning, this was done by testing and found it less stressful on the heart as opposed to stunning the animal - Now some will find it disgusting and some will find it acceptable, unfortunately everyone cannot be pleased, so make a decision based on your views, killing and eating an animal can be viewed as inhumane irrespective of how its killed...... after all it has been killed so what degree of difference does it make once it has been killed?, irrespective of which method!! Animals have been sacrificed for food for centuries and its only now this so called problem has risen, and why Islamaphobia. Do your think there is some sort of Voodoo that goes on? No it will taste the same and I'm sure it will fill up your arteries of crap just the same, As Imran above states KFC has decided to cater for all markets, we are after all in a recession??!! To all those saying they will boycott the KFC, what about all those Indian chicken curries and tikkas you have been eating all these years, they are halal!! what's wrong if its cooked in vegetable oil, as its more healthy, when the blood is drained there is less likelihood of a disease or contamination spreading. Instead of just coming out with comments that have no justification and saying the country is becoming Islamic look at other examples, be it economic or other offerings in the community to cater for all walks of people and not just Muslims. One final thing these people that want to boycott These halal places try the food, you may even like it!! I for one don't like KFC, tried it in Dubai so that's my reason, and No other, and if you don't like the way its slaughtered then make a stance and don't go, we all have a choice, exercise it but don't keep on blaming Islam for other peoples or companies shortcomings or profiting from the wider community.
This is a Christian country and up until now we slaughtered our animals in a humane way as we do not believe in the barbaric slaughtering and suffering of animals.
So why should we change our ways to please the so-called minority?
MidnightBarber
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4:05pm Mon 15 Mar 10
1. Wherever there is Halal meat on sale, then any haraam (non-halal) product can not be sold alongside it. Therefore in the case of KFC they cannot have bacon on the menu whatsoever. The same goes for Subway. Just because the minority choose to only eat certain meats and slaughtered in a certain way then this should not be forced upon the rest of the population.
2. It is CRUELER - we are not saying that animals do not suffer at all when slaughtered in the normal way, but it has been proven that by simply slitting the throat it causes them terrible pain and distress. It is barbaric. To say only vegetareans are allowed to comment on the slaughter of animals is totally foolish. It is the people who eat the meat that cause the animals to be killed, and we want those animals to be killed in the most humane way possible.
3. You asre right that kebabs / curries etc use Halal meat, but of course we would not expect muslims to prepare non-halal meat just for us, but it is nice to have the CHOICE. We live in a democracy and we have fought for freedom of choice, not to be forced to eat a certain kind of food because the minority will be appeased.
Basically, we know KFC and Subway have not been forced to sell halal meat, but we as the population are feeling increasingly forced to eat it as more and more food outlets bow to the pressure. The fact is that this is a free country, and we eat pork, bacon, lamb, chicken and whatever we feel like, and ew just want the choice to do this, and with the animals to be killed in the least painful way. For those that want to follow out-dated religions then eat what you like, but dont let the food outlets force it upon the whole population - boycott Subway and KFC.
jackson15
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4:08pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Pendle power
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4:25pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Maestro5
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4:26pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter
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4:46pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Maestro5 wrote:No, because that was the custom at the time and it was over 2,000 years ago. Humanity, as a whole, has moved on since that time. For example, we no longer hang children for stealing loaves of bread!
Jews and Muslims basically use the same method for slaughter. the argument here is that Christians do not want to go to those stores which serve this type of meat. my question is isn't Christianity based upon the teachings and way of life of Jesus. and what was Jesus ? if Jesus ate meat sacrificed in this way does that mean he was "barbaric?"
However, there are sections of the community who wish to maintain these barbaric rituals (not hanging children, BTW), and claim it is in the name of religion. I really don't care what religion anybody chooses to follow, but I wish that the "moderates" practicing these religions would understand the utter revulsion this practice engenders, and try and create a movement for change from within. But I won't hold my breath.
nelson claret
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4:49pm Mon 15 Mar 10
s which are halal ONLY therefore giving muslims a choice however it seems if all follow suit with KFC and subway, non-muslims will lose their freedom of choice; this is not racist, anti-islamic, or even catering for everyone as one muslim above said, providing halal foods only takes away the choice of non-muslims; why should we have any less choice than muslims; it is only muslims on here who are making our arguments about race and religion and not about freedom of speech and choice; consider this for just a second, how would you feel as a muslim if there were no takeaways or restaurants that served halal?? because that is the way our freedom of choice appears to be heading for all us non-muslims, have a bit of consideration for a change instead of being defensive and making yourself to be a victim
Faithless
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5:07pm Mon 15 Mar 10
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If there is such strong feeling about the halal kfc, boycott it. The loss of business will make them change back.
midas
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5:14pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter
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5:25pm Mon 15 Mar 10
midas wrote:So, Midas, by expressing my condemnation for this method of slaughter, it makes me a "racist", does it? BTW, I don't eat in curry houses - in my opinion, curry is a disgusting concoction.
It does make me laugh when all the ignorant rascists come on and try to defend their outrage by suddenly beoming all concerned about how the animal is killed. Get over it! People are quite happy to eat halal food in curry houses and kebabs or doesn't animal compassion worry you after 1o pints!
IanHuddy
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5:52pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Imran786
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6:02pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter wrote:Mr Ian your assuming i am a muslim because of my name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KFC have made a choice to sell halal and for your information this was already on sale for 2 years.
Imran786 wrote: Are you all silly KFC went halal did the muslim community tell them to do that NO they did it for money FACT. Its their business so stop blaming muslims for it and get a life. There is DIXY CHIKEN everywhere but the fact is KFC made a business decision??????????? And slaughtering animals in any way is still painful so dont use that escuse. Complain to KFC and dont blame the muslims ONCE AGAIN !!!!!!!!Imran, I'm afraid you're typical of the sort of Muslim who claims "victim status" if ANYTHING is said which you deem to be anti-Islam. I can't speak for others, but my objection is purely down to the barbarity of allowing an animal to bleed to death slowly. Can you imagine the fear, pain, bewilderment and confusion the animal must experience before it finally loses consciousness? A quick death must be infinitely preferable.
If you feel the slaughtering of animals in islam is slow thats wrong its quick i understand the animal does suffer by stunning an animal it does not stop its pain. Stunning pains the animal do your research. But once again its muslim bashing !!! we all eat chicken so we should all become vegiterian.
hasslem hasslem
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6:08pm Mon 15 Mar 10
midas wrote:See Midas, when you don't talk football - you can talk sense.
It does make me laugh when all the ignorant rascists come on and try to defend their outrage by suddenly beoming all concerned about how the animal is killed. Get over it! People are quite happy to eat halal food in curry houses and kebabs or doesn't animal compassion worry you after 1o pints!
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If these people really gave a stuff about animal cruelty - then they should go veggie.
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If it bothers them so much - just don't go to KFC/Curry Houses/Subway/Kebab shops. Simple. There are plenty of alternatives. I particularly like the Cemetery Chippy in Cone. Yum Yum.
Michael@ClitheroeSince58
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6:11pm Mon 15 Mar 10
ste.g
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6:15pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Markr wrote:i rang this number and they gave me their head office number that will beal with this.i will be ringing tommorro.
You can call KFC local head office to complain, their number is 01772 626557.
I was told that there was a sign on the door and one on the wall letting you know that it is hahal, the sign on the door is in some sort of code with a building, some foriegn writing and a few letters no mention of HalHal at all, seems like its some code to only let people in the know aware that its halhal, ordinary Christian folk like us wouldnt have a clue, the sign on the wall inside is behind the serving counter and easy to miss.
You might like to ring them and explain that they have now excluded the largest part of the population (Christian) from their stores.
I believe there are demos being aranged by various goups for the near future.
kfc gb. 01483 717000
bwithd
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6:16pm Mon 15 Mar 10
great Mahatma Ghandi..'we shall make our own curry', anyone for curry..thats non halal curry, that is
daan
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6:31pm Mon 15 Mar 10
daan
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6:35pm Mon 15 Mar 10
daan wrote:oh the meat feast at the moment is chicken, turky and spicey chicken. not a meat feast fact !
boycott KFC, Dominoes and Subway. Dont agree with slitting any animals throat in the name of allibabar or whatever his name is but my biggest problem is that I cant order a big daddy burger because weather the chicken is halal or not it wont have a strip of bacon on it, same with dominoes I see meatball pizzas on the tv adverts but when I call Dominoes they dont do them infact they do hardly any of the guest pizzas. big point I dont order the food not because its halal but because they dont have what I want, to me there is no dominoes or subway in blackburn ! KFC gone now gutted.
Blackburn Realist
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6:42pm Mon 15 Mar 10
bwithd
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6:49pm Mon 15 Mar 10
adamadam
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8:10pm Mon 15 Mar 10
KFC have opened there arms to the muslim community, by making there products become halal certified and removing pork products in restaurants which they now say are halal. this they didnt have to do, but have done so to welcome the muslim community.
i am furious with the HMC because they are a recently created halal council, solely operating in LANCASHIRE. and which do not speak for the rest of the counties within the UK.
A company as large as KFC, Pizza Hut, McDonalds who are wanting to become halal certified do not have the time of day to visit each individual county, and there individual muslim representatives to ascertain halal certification!
thats akin to saying having every county within the UK having there own vegetarian certifcation! - rather silly and daft im sure everyone would agree.
so to apease everyone, KFC have done what i think is the common sense approach, visit the largest halal certifaiction authority within the UK, and be accredited by them! - well done!
a clear message to HMC is to become a part of a larger, united halal accreditation council. one which is universal accross the uk, regardless of whichever town or county you are in!
Stone Island
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8:12pm Mon 15 Mar 10
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It seems that people aren't allowed to have different opinions these days.
It's just another reason why this country is going to the dogs.
ste.g
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8:40pm Mon 15 Mar 10
DannyP87
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8:41pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Now go to http://islaminaction
08.blogspot.com/2009
/05/london8-kfcs-go-
halal-only.html
and see what they put. "this is just the beginning and now eight London KFC's have also gone halal only. I understand that this is the free market. But when the free market is ushering in Islam, that is not good for the future of non-Muslims living in the area. The UK is slowly falling to Islam."
The real sad thing is, is that he's true. Everyone is too soft to stop it. Because we all know what will happen...
...the racist card gets played!
M.DANNY
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8:44pm Mon 15 Mar 10
mo_dasu
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8:54pm Mon 15 Mar 10
There was actually a study carried out by a German scientist a while ago. It concluded that the slaughter carried out in the halal way, if carried out properly, is painless in sheep and calves according to EEG recordings and the missing defensive actions (of the animals) and that for sheep, there were in part severe reactions both in bloodletting cut and the pain stimuli when captive bolt stunning (CBS) was used.
smallweed
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9:53pm Mon 15 Mar 10
mo_dasu
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10:10pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Nonsense. As someone who has worked in the meat industry for 40 years, and seen ritual slaughter carried out, I can assure you that animals that are not pre-stunned before they are bled DO suffer.
How do you know that? Have you asked the animals as they are dying? You can't just claim that.
district01
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10:38pm Mon 15 Mar 10
So, may the great one above who governs this ancient religious practice cut himself whilst shaving!!!
mys
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10:57pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter
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11:14pm Mon 15 Mar 10
mo_dasu wrote:Who did YOU ask, Mo? Allah? God? Or a real person, such as a scientist?
smallweed says: Nonsense. As someone who has worked in the meat industry for 40 years, and seen ritual slaughter carried out, I can assure you that animals that are not pre-stunned before they are bled DO suffer. How do you know that? Have you asked the animals as they are dying? You can't just claim that.
mo_dasu
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11:26pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter wrote:The research carried out by the German scientist proved the animals don't feel pain. So yes, a scientist.
mo_dasu wrote: smallweed says: Nonsense. As someone who has worked in the meat industry for 40 years, and seen ritual slaughter carried out, I can assure you that animals that are not pre-stunned before they are bled DO suffer. How do you know that? Have you asked the animals as they are dying? You can't just claim that.Who did YOU ask, Mo? Allah? God? Or a real person, such as a scientist?
kimberim
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11:30pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Ian the Beancounter
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11:41pm Mon 15 Mar 10
mo_dasu wrote:I remember that "study". It was funded by an Islamic body. Sorry, but I prefer to believe the evidence of an experienced meat processor and my own experience. BTW, if you were to be executed, and think about this, what would you prefer? Hung up by your ankles and your throat cut (just imagine watching your blood drain away before you pass out!), or a bullet straight to the core of your brain? I know which I deem to be most "humane".
Ian the Beancounter wrote:The research carried out by the German scientist proved the animals don't feel pain. So yes, a scientist.mo_dasu wrote: smallweed says: Nonsense. As someone who has worked in the meat industry for 40 years, and seen ritual slaughter carried out, I can assure you that animals that are not pre-stunned before they are bled DO suffer. How do you know that? Have you asked the animals as they are dying? You can't just claim that.Who did YOU ask, Mo? Allah? God? Or a real person, such as a scientist?
stealer
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11:43pm Mon 15 Mar 10
Neither Muslim nor the rest of us non believers have a clue where the basic foodstuff comes from !
I suspect most 'fresh' chicken etc ends up coming from the Far East after being sent there for' processing and doctoring'!
What's the point in making all the fuss.
Whilst I'm at it 'Never buy pre packed
marinated stuff from supermarkets, unless you are suffering from constipation, you do not know what you are eating ! Same applies to KFC
Chinese, Indian and all other fast food outlets ! Cook your own it's easy !
St.Francis
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9:07am Tue 16 Mar 10
fck-kfc.
Blackburn Realist
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9:09am Tue 16 Mar 10
Stone Island wrote:So who's branded you a racist? and I see lots of different opinions on here.
Why is it, that anyone who doesn't think KFC should sell halal meat is branded a racist? . It seems that people aren't allowed to have different opinions these days. It's just another reason why this country is going to the dogs.
amyna
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9:45am Tue 16 Mar 10
St.Francis
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10:15am Tue 16 Mar 10
dadada
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10:29am Tue 16 Mar 10
wackyracer
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10:49am Tue 16 Mar 10
MerlinTheVoiceofReason
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11:07am Tue 16 Mar 10
Davidoff wrote:I only post under one name on here but thanks for your enquiry.
Well, I was only joking the other week on these pages about going into KFC and having to choose between Halal and 'regular' menus.
Can we expect now to see Kosher menus at KFC? No, didn't think so.
As to Merlin. Isn't it time you decided where you actually live? Cos I **** well know it's not 'Ramsbottom' mate!
Seems to me there is one person posting under several names on this report. Very sad.
And I do indeed live in Ramsbottom.
I am afraid your paranoia is reaching new heights.
MerlinTheVoiceofReason
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11:08am Tue 16 Mar 10
javed wrote:Thanks Javed. You present some good points, well made!
I have been intrigued by the many varying comments above and what really upsets me is the lack of understanding. Do half of you know what halal is? will it taste different or spoil your meal? how does it affect you as a consumer?
Halal is when an animal is sacrificed in the name of Allah for food and is slaughtered by a prayer and the slitting of the throat, its blood is then completely drained from the body, it has been proven to be less painful than stunning, this was done by testing and found it less stressful on the heart as opposed to stunning the animal - Now some will find it disgusting and some will find it acceptable, unfortunately everyone cannot be pleased, so make a decision based on your views, killing and eating an animal can be viewed as inhumane irrespective of how its killed...... after all it has been killed so what degree of difference does it make once it has been killed?, irrespective of which method!!
Animals have been sacrificed for food for centuries and its only now this so called problem has risen, and why Islamaphobia. Do your think there is some sort of Voodoo that goes on? No it will taste the same and I'm sure it will fill up your arteries of crap just the same, As Imran above states KFC has decided to cater for all markets, we are after all in a recession??!!
To all those saying they will boycott the KFC, what about all those Indian chicken curries and tikkas you have been eating all these years, they are halal!! what's wrong if its cooked in vegetable oil, as its more healthy, when the blood is drained there is less likelihood of a disease or contamination spreading.
Instead of just coming out with comments that have no justification and saying the country is becoming Islamic look at other examples, be it economic or other offerings in the community to cater for all walks of people and not just Muslims.
One final thing these people that want to boycott These halal places try the food, you may even like it!!
I for one don't like KFC, tried it in Dubai so that's my reason, and No other, and if you don't like the way its slaughtered then make a stance and don't go, we all have a choice, exercise it but don't keep on blaming Islam for other peoples or companies shortcomings or profiting from the wider community.
United!!United!!
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11:15am Tue 16 Mar 10
MerlinTheVoiceofReason
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11:22am Tue 16 Mar 10
phoebesgrandad wrote:The Muslims are just being used as the scapegoat by the rich powerful elite to cover up what is really happening.
wackyracer wrote:You are spot on my friend and that is why people are voting for the BNP because they feel that the country is moving towards Islam and nobody but the BNP are prepared to stand up and be counted,if you openly say that it is a fear you are branded a racist,sad,but very very true.
I think the real issue is that non Muslims feel this is another chip at 'our' way of life and a slow move towards an Islamic state. Whether this is true or not is debatable but as a white English atheist it does concern me how an oppressive religion is slowly imposing on certain aspects of my living. There is a real fear that if we don’t question this now, there may become a day when it’s too late.
The neoliberal proponents of globalisation have slowly eroded our way of life. Society has become fragmented because that's what they want to achieve. The British high street has been Amercianised - that's what's replaced "our way of life". McDonalds. Burger King. Subway. Starbucks. Pizza Hut. Frankie & Bennies. Amazon. Sub-prime mortgages. The list is endless. We even have American voice-overs on ads.
United!!United!!
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11:41am Tue 16 Mar 10
beermonster
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11:43am Tue 16 Mar 10
realist007 wrote:so everybody who disagrees or has an opinion on here is a chav now? some of us do work for a living instead of spending all day writing stupid debates on this website. suggest you look in the mirror realist you might just see who the chav really is! MUPPET!
moggy i wuldnt expect a chav like yourself to understand. beermonster are you already drunk this early in the day you probably are hence the lame responce.stupid chavs go get yourself a education instead of crying about halal chicken its not the end of the world get over it muppet
madari
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11:44am Tue 16 Mar 10
A chicken and an egg are lying in bed, the chicken is leaning against the headboard smoking a cigarette with satisfied smile on its face.
The egg looking a bit peeved off grabs the sheet, rolls over and says `well, i guess we finally answered that question`.
Tat my friends is hallal or hallabalooo about nothing.
phoebesgrandad
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11:44am Tue 16 Mar 10
MerlinTheVoiceofReasI take your point my friend and maybe it's true but I can openly say what I like about the Americans,can the same be said about Muslims? I think you know the answer to that.
on wrote:
phoebesgrandad wrote:The Muslims are just being used as the scapegoat by the rich powerful elite to cover up what is really happening.
wackyracer wrote:You are spot on my friend and that is why people are voting for the BNP because they feel that the country is moving towards Islam and nobody but the BNP are prepared to stand up and be counted,if you openly say that it is a fear you are branded a racist,sad,but very very true.
I think the real issue is that non Muslims feel this is another chip at 'our' way of life and a slow move towards an Islamic state. Whether this is true or not is debatable but as a white English atheist it does concern me how an oppressive religion is slowly imposing on certain aspects of my living. There is a real fear that if we don’t question this now, there may become a day when it’s too late.
The neoliberal proponents of globalisation have slowly eroded our way of life. Society has become fragmented because that's what they want to achieve. The British high street has been Amercianised - that's what's replaced "our way of life". McDonalds. Burger King. Subway. Starbucks. Pizza Hut. Frankie & Bennies. Amazon. Sub-prime mortgages. The list is endless. We even have American voice-overs on ads.
midas
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12:21pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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less than 10% of the posters on here know how the meat they eat has been reared and slaughtered the rest are just scared of Islam.
Slimplynth
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1:04pm Tue 16 Mar 10
vintageclaret
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1:06pm Tue 16 Mar 10
midas wrote:Just a couple of points Midas. The reason why the meat is reared & processed in places such as Brazil & Thailand and for not only dusting with salt but also pepper is to circumvent tariffs and make it even cheaper still. Having been in the meat game all my life there are many aspects of meat production the lay person would perceive as not healthy or wrong. However, on the Halal controversy I must add the following. i) It is cruel ii) The initial point of entry by the knife is not numbed, so by virtue of having a nervous system the animals do feel pain iii) The animal dies by effectually causing it’s own death because the heart pumps the blood out through the incision. Becoming weaker the heart doesn’t pump as strong so its death becomes more prolonged. It is interesting how practical advice to an ancient people (Jewish religion has the same ethos).This method was used in ancient times to ensure that as much blood as possible was removed from the meat to ensure it would keep better in very, very hot climates. In this modern day & age of efficient cooling and refrigeration there isn’t any reason whatsoever for this barbaric practice to be carried out. I would say to anyone who commits it, preaches it or demand it “Ask the people to explain the truth behind why they should do this?” The answer will probably be “Because the Koran or Tanach says so” (blindly accepting it) Then take a modern intellectual look at it and try to explain to yourself any reasoning behind it (you won’t find an answer, or be able to justify its continuance)
lol, how do you think chickens are killed? Remember the vast majority of chicken that is used in these fast food outlets is reared and slaughtered in places like thailand, Brazil or Eastern Europe. The meat is then salted and frozen and shipped to (mainly) Holland where it is defrosted, desalted, refrozen and then exported to the UK where it is turned into nuggets and burgers etc. . less than 10% of the posters on here know how the meat they eat has been reared and slaughtered the rest are just scared of Islam.
NevaStop
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1:34pm Tue 16 Mar 10
kfc do STUN their chickens to the suprise of all of you on here cnt believe no one has bothered reading it on kfc website so about 75% of the comment on here have been for F all! do some research first before diving into the comment box!
good day to u all!
lancastrian lass
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1:44pm Tue 16 Mar 10
excaliber
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1:46pm Tue 16 Mar 10
United!!United!! wrote:You mean Chesters on Copy Nook?
KFC chicken is rubbish!!! Chester's Chicken, now that's what you call chicken, Yum!!!! With some chilli sauce, First Class!!. I'm goin for some at lunch.
http://www.lancashir
etelegraph.co.uk/new
s/blackburn/4158401.
Blackburn_s_biggest_
ever_fine_for_food_o
ffences_given_to_tak
eaway/
Ian the Beancounter
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1:49pm Tue 16 Mar 10
lancastrian lass wrote:Are cattle and sheep also stunned in halal slaughter? I don't believe they are, so the "cruelty" accusation against halal still stands.
you are right nevastop, they do stun the chickens first so it just shows you the level of intellect of those putting posts on here haha...
kaotic kaos
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2:12pm Tue 16 Mar 10
United!!United!!
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2:13pm Tue 16 Mar 10
excaliber wrote:No the one in Preston, near the Uni.
United!!United!! wrote:You mean Chesters on Copy Nook?
KFC chicken is rubbish!!! Chester's Chicken, now that's what you call chicken, Yum!!!! With some chilli sauce, First Class!!. I'm goin for some at lunch.
http://www.lancashir
etelegraph.co.uk/new
s/blackburn/4158401.
Blackburn_s_biggest_
ever_fine_for_food_o
ffences_given_to_tak
eaway/
lil1985
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2:22pm Tue 16 Mar 10
fes instead of haraam.
what a shame, as they are a taste sensation!
watermelon
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2:47pm Tue 16 Mar 10
authority.co.uk/Brie
f%20Guidlines.pdf . Do further research and you make an informed decision. So stop blaming Islam for everything. Muslims didnt rqst KFC, Subway to go Halal. Its all money orientated and since theres 40,0000 muslims in Blackburn, I can see why they done it. Next time your on a night out, all them currys, burgers, pizzas and donner kebabs you eat are all halal. didnt bother you up to now did it.and its not the islamification of britain, Theres 2m Muslims as opposed to 58oddm christian/Jews etc. The lot of you are all ignorant, racist and hypocrites.
watermelon
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2:57pm Tue 16 Mar 10
vintageclaret
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2:59pm Tue 16 Mar 10
lancastrian lass wrote:Regarding comment on intelligence. Don't believe all you read/see on company websites advocating what they do or don't do! These are their theoretical practices, what happens in real life is far removed. i would suggest you try to arrange an unannounced visit to one of their sites and check if the stunner is working. As for cocking a snoop at our intellect consider the following - If all animals/creatures are to be classed as Halal they must have been slaughtered strictly according to the ritual i.e. No Stunning prior to the knife going in otherwise not Halal. Believe me when i said I had been in the meat industry for many years this was a fact and over those years I slaughtered my own animals as humanely as possible which was always stunning to prior pithing & cutting. The reason an animal was pithed was to render it insensible to pain, stunning is not the cause of death but the cutting of the throat and subsequent loss of blood is. Now a question from someone apparently lacking in intellect! If animals are slaughtered in the name of Allah and then offered for food and Allah is a peaceful God, why does he allow animals to be slaughtered in such pain? You will notice I have not made any Islamophobic or anti Yiddish comments but purely (as a meat eater) who believes in non-cruelty during slaughter . Further add that as this country is classed as a Christian country offering freedom & democratic rights why does the saying "When in Rome" come to mind? This rule applies in nearly all sections of Islam dominated countries so why not here?
you are right nevastop, they do stun the chickens first so it just shows you the level of intellect of those putting posts on here haha...
midas
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3:02pm Tue 16 Mar 10
This should be a discussion on whether you are concerned about how the meat you eat is reared and slaughtered, personally I am not realy that bothered and on the occasions I have knowingly eaten halal meat haven't noticed that much difference though when I have seen them butchering the joints in the maret I have been impressed with their skills.
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There are more important things to worry about in life than whether KFC serve halal meat or not.
javed
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3:22pm Tue 16 Mar 10
kaotic kaos wrote:Finally a true response!!, it is your choice kaotic Kaos and well done for making it as opposed to the other irresponsible people on this blog who are using the religious angle and coming out with islamophobic comments. we all have a choice and whatever that choice is based on we must all respect it as long as it is objective in a respectful manner.
My reason for not eating halal meat is purely because it is killed according to Islamic law / religion which i am not Islamic therefore i don't want to eat it.
rishtona
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3:56pm Tue 16 Mar 10
This is not about race, colour or creed, it is about having something forced on us (by which I mean the general public at large) by more of the British PC brigade. Who spend more time championing "so called" minority groups and forget about the majority.
It is akin to the way we now celebrate St Patricks Day with such ferver as we are all suppossed to be a "little bit oirish for one day"!!!!
I'm English, not British, not from the UK, not European but English. However, by saying that I will (I presume) be labled right wing or a racist! Yet it is OK to call yourself Scottish, Welsh or Irish and paint your face with your national colours!
The British (and it was the British collectively) imposed rule and raped the wealth of many nations in the past, that was wrong. But those were unenlightened times; these are not.
It is time we celebrated difference and not try to assume we are all the same and it is time we stopped impossing change, yet it is also true that we should remeber this is England.
And one final (perhaps controversial) point, would the same happen in an islamic country? Would they open fish and chip shops and serve none Halal sausages? Two British people in the UAE are awaiting sentencing for kissing in public yet we don't arrest muslim women for wearing the burka!
It is about time sensibility prevailed and we recognised that no-one person or nation can impose on another and I mean none (including you America, you can have nuclear weapons but no one else can - hypocricy).
he6rt6gr6m
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4:12pm Tue 16 Mar 10
I agree. 10000000000000%
ste.g
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4:21pm Tue 16 Mar 10
retired one
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4:34pm Tue 16 Mar 10
bulldogbrfc wrote:I think it is too late bulldog. I bet there will be no going back now that it has been changed.
retired one wrote: Why should our KFC outlets be changed to halal only. We are in Britain and I would like to eat the food that I am used to. I hope that a lot of people will follow suite and avoid eating in KFC outlets. We are being taken over by something new every day and it is not on. Whatever next?not only is it kfc but subway blakey moor are doing halal as well... can some one tell me what country this is again??? if we did this in any ones country we would be stoned to death on a saturday afternoon. can we have are country back please before its to late .................... .............god bless the queen.
javed
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4:59pm Tue 16 Mar 10
rishtona wrote:Rishtona, I take all your comments on board. Would fish and chips shops be allowed in a Muslim country, Why Not? it will depend on commerciality and demand, but in my opinion it would not happen as you cannot serve pork in the same place. Does it flaunt any laws? No- neither does having halal meat, If it was then we would all act accordingly and respect the British law, just as the two people who are being prosecuted in the UAE should have done - although in my opinion its ludicrous!! but that's their law and you have to abide by it.We live in a more liberal society and therefore it is part of the Norm but not to them, In the same basis it would be ludicrous to prosecute someone in a Burka unless they were flaunting the Law.
islamophobic - what utter, utter rubbish.
This is not about race, colour or creed, it is about having something forced on us (by which I mean the general public at large) by more of the British PC brigade. Who spend more time championing "so called" minority groups and forget about the majority.
It is akin to the way we now celebrate St Patricks Day with such ferver as we are all suppossed to be a "little bit oirish for one day"!!!!
I'm English, not British, not from the UK, not European but English. However, by saying that I will (I presume) be labled right wing or a racist! Yet it is OK to call yourself Scottish, Welsh or Irish and paint your face with your national colours!
The British (and it was the British collectively) imposed rule and raped the wealth of many nations in the past, that was wrong. But those were unenlightened times; these are not.
It is time we celebrated difference and not try to assume we are all the same and it is time we stopped impossing change, yet it is also true that we should remeber this is England.
And one final (perhaps controversial) point, would the same happen in an islamic country? Would they open fish and chip shops and serve none Halal sausages? Two British people in the UAE are awaiting sentencing for kissing in public yet we don't arrest muslim women for wearing the burka!
It is about time sensibility prevailed and we recognised that no-one person or nation can impose on another and I mean none (including you America, you can have nuclear weapons but no one else can - hypocricy).
What really upsets me is that people are suggesting KFC have done this as a MUSLIM or ISLAMIC decision. These people are frightened of all that is Islamic and the changes it is causing in society today - this is islamophobia. If you travel to say Dubai in the UAE, you can eat pork, Drink alcohol in a MUSLIM country, granted it is not openly offered and it is not illegal but there is a huge Ex pat community that has its needs and it is provided for, so why not the Muslims here in the UK?. If in the UAE you are caught urinating in the street or having sex in a public place you are dealt with it severely and accordingly just as you would be here in the UK, albeit alot more leniently, hence the weekend yob culture!! Would you let someone urinate in your garden..... No!
This decision by KFC is purely commercial, they don't look at it any other way, if its non halal they lose the Muslim trade, if its halal they will lose a little trade and the Muslim trade will make up for it, but I guarantee you these non Muslim customers will one day go back where as the Muslims would never contemplate coming in if the store wasn't halal.
It is no different to other businesses changing tact in this ever competitive market to make as much money as possible - Halal or Not Halal, KFC couldn't give to hoots about Islam as long as doesn't affect its bottom line!!
ste.g
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5:16pm Tue 16 Mar 10
javed wrote:i to am not islamic,but i do from time to time eat halal meat ie indian takeaways.but that is my choice.however the kfc are not giving me a choice,they are basically saying take it or leave it,in which case i will be leaving it.kfc is an american classic so i expect the ingredients to be as authentic and western as possible just as i expect the currys to be,ie halal meat.
kaotic kaos wrote:Finally a true response!!, it is your choice kaotic Kaos and well done for making it as opposed to the other irresponsible people on this blog who are using the religious angle and coming out with islamophobic comments. we all have a choice and whatever that choice is based on we must all respect it as long as it is objective in a respectful manner.
My reason for not eating halal meat is purely because it is killed according to Islamic law / religion which i am not Islamic therefore i don't want to eat it.
my point being.i want to choose what meat i eat,not for it to be forced on me.
vintageclaret
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5:26pm Tue 16 Mar 10
PAULP1999
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6:59pm Tue 16 Mar 10
Tosh67
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8:03pm Tue 16 Mar 10
vintageclaret wrote:cool, liking this, and it is discrimination against you mate and supporters of traditional food without any religious nonsense attached to it, you need raise this with your MEP and keep on not buying this junk
Questions to ask all contributors which is quite a simple one really. If I went into a KFC and asked "Is the chicken Halal"? If on being told yes and then requested politely for a meal with non-Halal chicken would I be served? Or would I be told this is not an option? Or even asked to leave the shop on the basis I was being racist. Would the fact that a) Not being able to purchase from particular KFC outlets or even b) If I was to be served with non-Halal chicken who's portion would be classed as "contaminated" because according to Halal rules the slaughter lines have to be completely separated. So would all this refusal to serve me constitute a breach of my human rights
Tosh67
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8:06pm Tue 16 Mar 10
lancastrian lass wrote:wrong and so is Nevastop, KFC may stun the sparrows, but franchises are renowned for cutting corners and slitting the throats of these sparrows.lunatic
you are right nevastop, they do stun the chickens first so it just shows you the level of intellect of those putting posts on here haha...
Tosh67
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8:10pm Tue 16 Mar 10
daan
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8:13pm Tue 16 Mar 10
Tosh67 wrote:thats a darn good rant too !
and one more rant, who the hell do the lancashire mosk council think they are ? could we have a lancashire council for native lancastrians demanding the removal of halal food chains??? no we couldnt, so wind your necks in you hypocrites.
Tosh67
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8:18pm Tue 16 Mar 10
daan wrote:thanks mate i thought so, i am going to look into the potential of putting the following on a menu:
Tosh67 wrote: and one more rant, who the hell do the lancashire mosk council think they are ? could we have a lancashire council for native lancastrians demanding the removal of halal food chains??? no we couldnt, so wind your necks in you hypocrites.thats a darn good rant too !
a halally black pudding,
none infidel bacon butty and
most of all a traditional none curry tasting curry made from lancashire hotpot and no spices.
think i may have a fat wallah on me if i do?
Tosh67
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8:39pm Tue 16 Mar 10
sorry daan cant answer your question about pigs and halal maybe you should email the mosk of councils in lancashire and see if they will reply to a quest for knowledge??
blackburner
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9:07pm Tue 16 Mar 10
its a chicken who gives a toss how its killed, if the colonel's cooking some in a bargain bucket, count me in.
why dont we compromise, if the chickens come from britain, kill them the way they do now, but if KFC want to buy their chickens from stakipan or somewhere like that then go large on a halal two piece meal & a side
audiavante
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9:54pm Tue 16 Mar 10
kfc/halal.
Shane
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9:59pm Tue 16 Mar 10
ste.g
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10:35pm Tue 16 Mar 10
audiavante wrote:thanks audi,comment now logged.
It appears from the posts I have read on this article, that the group who are in favour of Halal KFC make the point that it does not appear or taste any different to non Halal product. So it is clear that the method of slaughter and more importantly the blessing are performed according to the Muslim faith, although no-one would know if it wasn't! So you must understand that individuals who do not follow the Muslim faith find it uncomfortable that the 'physchology' behind the Halal process is being performed. Anyone who wants to comment on the Halal 'trial' can log on to KFC at www.kfc.co.uk/about-
kfc/halal.
abdullah
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10:43pm Tue 16 Mar 10
AS for the topic under discussion maybe all the anger should be aimed at the great American institution being KFC.Im really upset that the musfevlim organisations in question are giving halal certifications to a basically junk paradise.The question is why would they want anyone eating such atrocious food.It was best when it wasnt halaal credited so at least we were safe from the fodder they serve.
Mr President
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10:45pm Tue 16 Mar 10
burger face
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12:09am Wed 17 Mar 10
watermelon
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8:06am Wed 17 Mar 10
mo_dasu
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8:53am Wed 17 Mar 10
In fact I told a non-Muslim friend of mine about this and he didn't really give a ****. (and he frequently eats KFC)
For those saying this is a step closer to 'islamification of Britain' -- hahahahah it just makes me realise how DUMB you guys are. It's not the Muslim community that demanded this, it's KFC that introduced it.
lizzyleek
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1:31pm Wed 17 Mar 10
In my view it is racial dicrimination as Christians can not eat meat blessed by other religions!
If people eat at take aways / curry houses that is their choice to eat halal food but what KFC / Subway etc have done is taken choice away.
I have witnessd in a KFC an asian man refused to be served by the lady on the counter as she was white and unclean?? WTF??? I was appalled and disgusted!
"OUR" country is no longer our country and all the men and women who gave their lives for this country for our freedom of speech etc will be turning in their graves!
AnthonyUK
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1:59pm Wed 17 Mar 10
past.times01
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3:49pm Wed 17 Mar 10
vintageclaret
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4:35pm Wed 17 Mar 10
ruxy
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5:02pm Wed 17 Mar 10
Slowly but surely!!
We guna be Halal all-over!!
HAHAHAHA
ewoodpark
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5:22pm Wed 17 Mar 10
icannotrace
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7:36pm Wed 17 Mar 10
ruxy wrote:I'd like to think this is a joke but unfortunately think this is true
HAHAHA see we are getting to you already!! Slowly but surely!! We guna be Halal all-over!! HAHAHAHA
mikebuk
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7:39pm Wed 17 Mar 10
'No, because that was the custom at the time and it was over 2,000 years ago. Humanity, as a whole, has moved on since that time. For example, we no longer hang children for stealing loaves of bread!'
Ha, bet we would find some advocats for that one, probably headed by Denise Fergus leading the band of hangers and floggers.
RK
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7:50pm Wed 17 Mar 10
anon 7
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8:57pm Wed 17 Mar 10
anon 7
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9:01pm Wed 17 Mar 10
northwesterly
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9:10pm Wed 17 Mar 10
abdullah
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10:41pm Wed 17 Mar 10
watermelon
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8:48am Thu 18 Mar 10
midas
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9:38am Thu 18 Mar 10
AnthonyUK
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11:36am Thu 18 Mar 10
bwithd
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1:38pm Thu 18 Mar 10
........
GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY FRIED CHICKEN
RK
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3:24pm Fri 19 Mar 10
banksider
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6:42pm Fri 19 Mar 10
If the chicken you buy and eat is not organically raised then by buying it you are supporting intense cruelty over a prolonged period of time to chickens (and the same applies to other factory-farmed animals).
Slaughter is not pleasant whichever method is used. I like none of them but would prefer the least painful if we could work out which that is and I'm not sure we have yet or ever will. But in the meantime, what we can do is buy only organically-raised meat and agitate for more humane farming methods whenever we can.
The production of most meat in this country can be done in much more humane ways but will not as long as we demand rock-bottom prices in supermarkets for our meat. If you are really concerned about animal cruelty then please do buy only organic.
St.Francis
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8:55pm Fri 19 Mar 10
www.kentuckyfriedcru
elty.com
amwtrout
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9:47pm Fri 19 Mar 10
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thecally
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7:57pm Sat 20 Mar 10
northwesterly wrote:By eating american fast food from kentucky?how is that english?
We are English, we were born in England, live in England and want to eat the traditional English way. Were has our choice gone, the choice to support St Georges day and the choice of meat? If we went to another country we would have to adopt there cultural ways everything would not change to accommodate us. I am not racist and have many Asian friends, but come on give us ALL a choice we ALL deserve that!!!
mazx4
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9:00pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Cool Lad
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9:50pm Sat 20 Mar 10
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A legend of a councillor got it right, nowadays there are too many takeaways and also too many .... hehe
ruxy
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2:40am Sun 21 Mar 10
We got Dominos, Ginos and now even KFC. How awsome is that?! Lets see who shall we be turning Halal next,,,,,eeerrr McDonalds, Burger King? Oh yehh dont you worry people we are onto it - we wont let you down we promise to disappoint and anger you even more!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA...
TheDoctorUK
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2:50am Fri 26 Mar 10
"That friggin' ... outfit .... They prostituted every **** thing I had. I had the greatest gravy in the world and those sons of ****-- they dragged it out and extended it and watered it down that I'm so **** mad"
TheDoctorUK
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2:54am Fri 26 Mar 10
TheDoctorUK wrote:Censors do remove some of the wording, just get yourself into the mind of a redneck and re-read. Or look up KFC on wikipedia and look at the bottom of "The secret recipe" section.
Colonel Sanders himself in 1964 expressed anger at changes to his original recipe, saying:
"That friggin' ... outfit .... They prostituted every **** thing I had. I had the greatest gravy in the world and those sons of ****-- they dragged it out and extended it and watered it down that I'm so **** mad"
Briana
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11:12am Sat 10 Apr 10
lmoneystore.com/mone
yblog/2010/04/05/kfc
-double-bun/">KFC Double Down</a> is idiotic. Sandwiching bacon and cheese between two fried (or grilled) chicken patties is just grosse. Whenever a person thinks about purchasing that, another cardiologist knows he'll never need payday advances. You basically are getting a doctor a new Mercedes and renewing his country club membership whenever you eat something such as that.
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retired one says...
11:30am Mon 15 Mar 10
I hope that a lot of people will follow suite and avoid eating in KFC outlets.
We are being taken over by something new every day and it is not on.
Whatever next?